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5:25 AM
Getting close to the 1k club :D
 
6:03 AM
DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS
 
Good morning :)
 
Good morning
 
user4433485
6:20 AM
goodmorning
 
user4433485
someone any experience with Steam trading bots with C#?
 
posted on September 21, 2015 by Scott Hanselman

The 7 year old and I have been trying to make various things with the HP Sprout (review soon) and Dremel Printer. I was sent review versions of both to explore and give feedback on. We've learned a lot and filed a lot of bugs and received lots of great software updates. About two months ago we tried 3D scanning an object using the Intel True Sense camera and manually rotating a 3D object on

 
Anyone ever used SQL Server SMO's Shrink method to trim a DB file?
 
user4433485
 
user4433485
is that difficult to make?
 
6:57 AM
Hmm I think I have a while ago @AvnerShahar-Kashtan
But I'm probably not the best person to ask :P
 
The Shrink method accepts a parameter specifying the percentage by which I want to shrink it - but I don't know in advance, I just want it to trim unused pages, regardless of how many there are.
And the documentation doesn't actually explain it.
I'm kinda looking forward to the SO Documentation project. :)
 
Oh, sorry then, I don't remember. And I think I wanted to shrink stuff (i.e. some logs) to 1MB anyway
Btw, what's the SO Documentation project?
 
Good morning
 
@RoelvanUden Hello
 
`morning.
 
7:32 AM
i am added a class UserPrincipalExtension which inherits from UserPrincipal which inherits from Principal which Implements IDisposable interface,

why am I not forced to implement disposable method in my UserPrincipalExtension class ?
 
@PleaseTeach Because UserPrincipal already implements it, I'm guessing.
Your class implements IDisposable (by proxy). This means it must have a public implementation of Dispose(). The compiler looks for one, finds it (inherited from a parent), and is satisfied.
 
oh so child classes don't really have to implement the methods in interface if parent classes already have it
 
Inheritance is used to share code between classes. The fact that this code happens to be an interface implementation is irrelevant. Class is marked as IDisposable and has a public Dispose method? Interface satisfied.
In languages less strict than C#, just having the Dispose() method would be enough for the object to be considered an IDisposable.
Even without explicitly marking it as such.
 
so what I said is true :)
 
Yes, yes. Just expanding on the topic. :)
 
7:57 AM
thanks, most times I don't understand a lot of explanation
donno it's a personality issue or learning style lol
 
I get that. That's why I had a short explanation before and a long one later.
 
8:19 AM
I think more exactly it works like this: at runtime the CLR sees userPrincipalExtension.Dispose(). It looks for this method in the UserPrincipalExtension class, but it doesn't find it. It then looks for the Dispose() method in its parent, but it doesn't find it there either. Finally it finds it in Principal and calls then.
If it wouldn't have found it in Principal, it would've looked for extension methods with that signature etc.
 
I think this is a compile-time issue. Extension methods can't satisfy an interface.
 
Yeah not sure if it does it at compile time or runtime, but those are pretty much the steps that are followed
Also what do you mean with the last sentence?
 
You're correct in general about the order of resolution for methods - first an overridden method, then a parent implementation, then an extension method - except for the issue that the interface requires a local implementation.
Ignoring inheritance, if I have MyClass : IDisposable, it has to have a Dispose() method defined in the class itself - having an extension method accepting public static void Dispose (this MyClass x) won't compile.
 
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I agree. Not sure if the opposite was implied by what I said
 
Even though you could call MyClass myObj = new MyClass(); myObj.Dispose(), you still don't really have a Dispose method.
 
8:24 AM
I read a bit about static and dynamic binding over the weekend. Not too happy with the amount of resources on this topic...
 
8:58 AM
Following up on a bug ticket, "Removing users from system doesn't work". Going to the AccountService class, I see the contents of the RemoveUser method is simply "//TODO: complete this logic".
 
Lol
 
Who needs unit tests, huh?
should at *least* be
throw new NotImplementedException()
 
We've just added user management in this last version, but apparently some things fell by the wayside.
I'm pretty sure I wrote that comment when I created the class and added the initial implementation. But I wasn't the one who signed off on the service. :)
 
9:41 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Look at your to-do explorer before checking in :P
 
@Katherina if u want Online Trading with Bot Accounts, that can be done with SteamKit2 or SteamBot , OpenSource in Git u can find.
if u want to do Trade Offers , that can be done easily by knowing your way around sending POST and GET Requests . i did both, but for trades i rather the Trade Offers one coz i write it entirely myself and there is no 3rd party needed :)
 
user4433485
@Pedram Thanks! I want to make something like CSGOshuffle
 
user4433485
those kind of trading bots
 
user4433485
@Pedram can I invite you into a chat for 2 seconds?:p
 
@Katherina np :) well never used that stuff, but i think i know what they do and yes u can do it with both method i said :)
 
9:47 AM
@RoelvanUden Wouldn't get anything done in that case. Lots of things pushed to future versions. We're not running what you might call a really tight ship here. Startup approaching v1. :)
 
@Katherina to chat where ? O.o :D
 
@Pedram To a chat within chat? Chatception!
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan hahaha ye xD i never knew u could make private room and chat till now lol xD
 
@Pedram SO even actively encourages you to do it if a comment-thread on an answer gets too long. Gives you a "get a room!" message with a link to create one.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan lool hahaha :D nice
btw anyone actually got any idea on my Question last night ?
12 hours ago, by Pedram
hmmm anyone know how can i make a json class that any of the json fields could be an array or could not be sometimes ? :|
full detail is up there :P
 
9:52 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Oh. Good luck then! I hope you at least track status of feature tickets then
 
@Pedram if it's just that one field that may be a class or an array, I suggest catering for either schema - handle two different models. Try deserialize to one type, and if that fails, try deserialize the other.
You could then have an adapter that converts either into a common, usable type.
OR you could write a total hack that replaces the text "mac_requirements":[] with "mac_requirements":{} before you deserialize it? ;)
 
o/
 
@Squiggle oh wow that hack so easy but i didn't think of it :P
 
@Pedram FWIW, whoever implemented that API should be shot
 
@Squiggle ikr ... there is a lot of things like this in the these APIs that i get quite tired sometimes , trying to solve with hacks lol
 
9:59 AM
@RoelvanUden We're improving in that regard yes.
 
anyway but how can i make for 2 different schema ? use a try catch or something in the class ? lol if first fail use 2nd ? how do u use it inside a json class ? O.o
 
I've heard of this problem a few times, actually. There's a library somewhere out there that people are using which generates really bad data.
 
@Squiggle That's javascript for you. Arrays and objects behave exactly the same. Except where they don't.
 
@Pedram if you can do the string-replace on the JSON, that would be the quickest hack/fix.
The first suggestion is more robust, because you're technically accepting two different schemas. I'd use at try/catch, but it's still ugly code.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan truth - but JavaScript != JSON ;)
 
@Squiggle well i guess i go with the .Replace() one , much easier and who cares about a 1 line hack :P
 
10:05 AM
@Squiggle But you can see how these JS conventions made their way into JSON.
 
Well.. JavaScript Object Notation.. it's in the name..
 
hahaha
 
@Pedram On your question, I would simply mark it as JObject JToken
Then anything is allowed. At runtime check for JArray or JObject
 
@RoelvanUden But some things were changed. JSON requires identifiers to be quoted, Javascript doesn't.
 
I've spent too long playing with XML. I love me a consistent data schema.
 
10:09 AM
But of course, different parsers will give different results. I've seen .json files that had embedded javascript code which was executed because it was loaded with jquery.load().
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan There are more differences than that, like the lack of functions, NaN, undefined, etc.
 
well i use NewtonSoft.Json always
 
this is why we have *standards*, people! (two standards, to be precise)
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7159
http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-404.htm
 
10:27 AM
TFS merge. Wish me luck.
2
 
10:41 AM
I've never used TFS, but messages like this ^ make me consider myself lucky...
Fortunately I only work with Git & Mercurial nowadays
 
I recently migrated a TFS project to git
took me about 3 weeks to get it right
 
Was it worth it though? :P
 
Then that's 3 weeks well spent ;)
 
the problem was that at one point in history, one TFS branch was moved to another folder
apparently that action makes the branch a descendant of itself (?)
and the tool that I used to migrate went into a stackoverflow trying to find the root branch of the moved branch
because the branch was its own parent branch
anyway
 
10:54 AM
@Squiggle Rip </3
 
Hi everybody. Wish a wonderful monday :D.
 
I'm not familiar with the concept of wonderful Mondays...
 
11:09 AM
@Sippy just over half way through. Only ~40 merge conflicts to go.
/me =_=
It's actually working like it should - however there has been a lot of concurrent development on both the release candidate and the dev line.
 
Wouldn't frequent merges have solved/prevented this? ^
 
They would have mitigated this.
it's only a couple of weeks' work; we didn't anticipate the other developer would be quite so energetic in his concurrent work :)
 
Sooo...Black Mirror was actually true...kinda.
 
It's some sort of beautiful, disgusting irony.
I find it amusing that nobody is at all surprised.
 
11:27 AM
lol wtf IIS .... i used the Replace hack trick and it worked for 1 product , then i Move to IIS so it work globaly
test it and it work ! but then test another page it wont work ! then test in Visual ! it work ! but in IIS not work :|
 
@Pedram your punctuation is freaky
 
i kr
xD
 
Well, relying on hacks to fix a problem is a bit of an issue, anyway. You shouldn't.
 
^ I totally agree with this
 
@RoelvanUden before thinking about the hack or anything else ... why would a Replace method work in Visual but not work all the time in IiS ?
 
11:30 AM
Does it matter? Fix your problem the right way.
 
well it does matter lol, i mean i use Replace so many time in so many places why would it act like this xD
 
@Squiggle :D
Death to hacks!
 
@Pedram String.Replace isn't the issue. String.Replace has been checked extensively and used in millions of lines of code. The issue is always your assumptions about the input.
 
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             uu$$$$$$$$$$$uu
          uu$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$uu
         u$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$u
        u$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$u
       u$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$u
       u$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$u
       u$$$$$$"   "$$$"   "$$$$$$u
       "$$$$"      u$u       $$$$"
        $$$u       u$u       u$$$
        $$$u      u$$$u      u$$$
         "$$$$uu$$$   $$$uu$$$$"
          "$$$$$$$"   "$$$$$$$"
            u$$$$$$$u$$$$$$$u
             u$"$"$"$"$"$"$u
  uuu        $$u$ $ $ $ $u$$       uuu
 
The hack is a 1 line simple fix for stupid API respond
            JsonString = JsonString.Replace("\"mac_requirements\":[]", "\"mac_requirements\":{}");
 
11:43 AM
wtf since when does the chat have syntax highlighting
 
That's never a good fix. It's also not a stupid API response. You just don't agree with it.
 
this works all the time in visual ! but in IIS it worked for 1 product ! not working for another !
 
@Sippy It doesn't?
 
Mine does
Wonder if @rlemon did that
 
Blame your browser
Or that
 
11:44 AM
I'm using his dark theme extension
 
@RoelvanUden it use {} when there is Mac requirement ! but use [] when there isn't ! why the heck ?!?! either make it null and not write it or write it {} ! so it's the problem of API :P
 
@Pedram "Mac requirement"?
 
yes its a json filed
or property , whatever u call it
 
@Pedram Please don't use exclamation marks for random punctuation. It makes it really hard to understand you.
 
@Sippy he did
 
11:47 AM
ah ok lol :| old habit
 
Ima need to see if I can integrate it into my chat
 
@Pedram You're saying that the API return an empty array when it has a null value, and a non-empty object when it has value?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yes
so i replaced empty array with empty object to fix it
 
@KendallFrey Ah, nice
 
if there is a way to easily make both of them, /i mean a mac_requirement Array and one for object ! and use some kind of setting or method to make it use the one appropriate ! it would be cool and all but I don't know anything about this :|
 
11:56 AM
Do you guys know any contras against using a datagridview instead of a listview?
With disabled column and row headers they look the same. The only thing is the datagridview got a sorting-function build-in.
At this point I think about never using listviews again!?
 
I haven't used ListViews in ages. I usually use ListBoxes or full-fledged Datagrids.
 
@C4ud3x I have changed a lot of listviews to datagridview, just for that sorting-filtering ability
 
@ntohl I used to use a user-made class for that for months until I got noticed the datagridview can sort by itself lol.
 
Since i come to WPF idk if i am using a GridView or ListView anymore lol
 
I'm talking about wpf
 
12:10 PM
Why is the .NET 4.6 offline installer only 62MB?
 
because it's just an update package from 4.5.2?
 
yup i am using ListView with GridViewColumn inside them O.o
 
What if 4.5.2 isn't installed?
 
i write a Sorter by myself for it didn't take much time
 
i've no idea
i think as long as you have .net 4.5 it should be fine, i mean, i guess
 
12:12 PM
What if I don't have any .NET?
Maybe it assumes you do, idk
 
then you suck
 
lol
 
@Pedram and also You reinvent wheel
 
@KendallFrey .NET is not larger is it? It's about that large for the runtime
 
then why does it require 3GB of disk space?
 
12:14 PM
It doesn't? Where did you get a 3GB number?
May be recommended free space...
 
@ntohl haha :P well idk, when i start learning WPF, I keep Googling what i wanted to do, and the first tutorial that i read, did it with list view ! so i made list view ! then i needed sorting, I made a textblock in header ! and make the click event of it, Sort using Linq :P
 
.net 4.0 runtime itself is about 300+mb
so with some compressing and voodoo, maybe they can stack them all in 62mb package
 
I once download a 12mb Ultra Compressed file that after unziping it ! i got ~700 mb ! a full Windows XP Installation Disk !
LOL
Disk*
 
:D
 
xD
 
12:18 PM
just put it in, and Off You Go!
 
@Pedram .Replace(" ! ", " ");
 
xDDDD
old habits die hard
 
@Squiggle .Replace(" ! ", ". ")
 
I Learned English in a MMORPG, what do u except :P
 
@Pedram 700MB compressed to 12MB? I have to see how that works.
 
12:19 PM
*expect
 
@Pedram They used a lot of '!' in that game?
 
@Pedram it looks really weird
 
@RoelvanUden yes i was quite shocked myself , it was some weird kind of compressor , kb something , it had KB
 
If You learn english in sql script, would You use " GO "?
 
i though all conversations are in 10 letter sentences in mmo
 
12:20 PM
@Pedram This is not a MMORPG, though. Kill those habits :P
@tweray No way.
 
@Loetn no but I used to talk like that, and Always Used To Use The First Sentence As Big Case Letters
 
Only trades. "WTS/T ABNH T/ NKPA+10 /W"
 
Coz I tho it Looks Cooler xD
 
@Pedram It doesn't :)
 
still if u look at my sentence some of the world end up being Big :P
 
12:22 PM
If you learned English in an MMO, you should've tried harder ;)
I know a lot of non-native English speakers who can write perfect English because of gaming :P
 
@Pedram IF I USE CAPS ALL THE TIME, ALL THE WORDS LOOK BIG
 
Yes, but the thing is, no body cared how i talk in a Game, and i played it for HOURS :P and it become habit coz no one told me to not use it that way :P
 
And then I think you're shouting
 
me: sup
dude: sup
me: zul today?
dude: ye
me: u got team?
dude: no
me: call on PC
dude: you call
me: fuck you
dude: fuck me
 
hah
 
12:23 PM
^ when i was playing WoW
 
Yes ALL BIG = Shouting ! But Only First Big Letter ! = Cooool :P that's what i used to think :P
 
@Pedram We're telling you xD
 
@Pedram You should learn German then.
 
@Pedram There are many social norms that really, totally, absolutely should NOT be learned from online gaming.
 
We don't request that your sentences contain a profundity of varied lexicon. Just... make words join up good.
 
12:24 PM
Trolling IRL is probably my favorite thing to do.
 
@Sippy wanna blow your mind?
 
@rlemon You can blow me any time.
 
Uuhm
 
@Sippy mine too. I regularly inventorize words when I conversate to non-native speakers.
 
@Sippy ctrl + K then type function foo() { then shift enter
 
12:25 PM
Oooooooo
 
close brace removes a level of indentation
 
Very fuckin snazzy
gj m8 i r8 8/8
 
I know :D and I am and will try to write better :P but it just happen sometimes when i write fast :P
 
@Squiggle Wouldn't you conversate with?
 
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Q: Visual Studio 2015 strange Keyboard Shortcuts

Carl ErikssonI just went over to VS 2015 from 2013. Back in 2013 I was using Alt + Shift + ( for typing the { character. In VS 2015 the same command toggles the error display for the scroll bar and wont let me type the opening curly bracket. I've tried to track down this awful shortcut in Tools -> Options ->...

Lol
 
12:29 PM
@Sippy depends who I'm in talks at
 
@Squiggle olawd stahp
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
#piggate
 
@async Favorited
 
Hmm. HttpResponseException in WebApi returns an HTTP error with extended data in the message body, right? Not sure how I get that extended data in my WCF client, since it just shows me a generic CommunicationException with the HTTP error code and no extended data.
Do I need to add some attribute to my OperationContract or WebInvoke that tells it how to deserialize the error codes?
 
12:38 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan you're using a WCF client to interrogate a WebAPI server?
 
@Squiggle I am.
We replaced the original WCF/SOAP service facades to WebAPI so that we can have web clients access them easily. But the main WPF client still has WCF proxies.
 
:O
Was trying to Google a how to, and it suggest me, How to Get Pregnant. and how to get rid of Ants. and here what I find !
Soak it up with cotton balls and place them in shallow dishes near ant trails.) Resist the urge to kill all the ants you see. They will carry the bait back to the nest, unable to differentiate between the borax and sugar, and the borax particles will eventually kill the entire colony.
 
@Pedram I tried that. Didn't work.
 
 
Hmm. I already have a ClientMessageInspector going over all incoming and outgoing messages. I see in debug that the http error does contain the metadata. I just need to translate it in my inspector to a different exception with the metadata.
 
12:50 PM
Anyone know a good reference for interpreting what ws-federation metadata means?
Or rather what you have to do with your service to satisfy it
 
1:01 PM
no
!!urban tfs
 
@codebrain TFS I've heard it stands for team foundation server, but having used team foundation server, I now know it stands for Total Fucking Shit.
6
 
lol
 
@CapricaSix me too
 
question: I have a List<string>, is there a good way to serialize that into JSON like [{ "thing": "string 1" }, ... ] instead of just ["string1", ...] short of looping through the list and making a new List<ThingObject>?
 
JsonConvert.Serialize(list.Select(s => new { thing = s }));
 
1:08 PM
@tweray beat me by a few seconds
 
Nice.
 
var buygrid = (from buy in contxt.BuyTBs
               join prod in contxt.ProductTBs on buy.ProductID equals prod.ProductID
               join cata in contxt.CatagoryTBs on buy.CatagoryID equals cata.CatagoryID
               join supl in contxt.SupplierTBs on buy.SupplierID equals supl.SuplierID
               join usr in contxt.Users on buy.bcreateduser equals usr.UserID
        where
              prod.ProductID == buy.ProductID
              &&
             cata.CatagoryID == buy.CatagoryID
 
@tweray That's still looping through the list and making ThingObjects
 
@RoelvanUden he's just asking for a short of looping
 
@RoelvanUden it is, technically... but it is much more pleasant.
 
1:10 PM
i have commented a line in the code (is it possible writng such query?)
 
When I came home last night, one of my dogs started licking the inside of my sweaty shoes.
Dogs are gross.
 
@r.hamd I can't see why not?
@Sippy yes, my dog eats the rabbit poop.
 
i dont know why the colomn(bchangeduser ) is empty @CuddleBunny
 
Nice.
 
@r.hamd can you try that query after the big one?
 
1:16 PM
you mean i run short one sparetly? ok i am trying it now @CuddleBunny
var buygrid = (from buy in contxt.BuyTBs
                      join prod in contxt.ProductTBs on buy.ProductID equals prod.ProductID
           join cata in contxt.CatagoryTBs on buy.CatagoryID equals cata.CatagoryID
           join supl in contxt.SupplierTBs on buy.SupplierID equals supl.SuplierID
           join usr in contxt.Users on buy.bcreateduser equals usr.UserID
            where
                                    prod.ProductID == buy.ProductID
                                    &&
                                   cata.CatagoryID == buy.CatagoryID
unfotunately its impty
it brings nothing @CuddleBunny
 
@CuddleBunny it's impty yo
 
@Sippy its very strange when i debut it it shows sql code like
--The data may be truncated and may not represent the query that was run on the server
USE [MiniMallDB];

GO

SELECT
    [Extent2].[UserID] AS [UserID]
    FROM  [dbo].[BuyTB] AS [Extent1]
    CROSS JOIN [dbo].[User] AS [Extent2]
    WHERE ([Extent1].[bcreateduser] IS NOT NULL) AND ([Extent1].[bchangeduser] IS NOT NULL) AND ([Extent1].[bcreateduser] = [Extent1].[bchangeduser])
when i excute it it brings three rows
but ef code is empty
 
@r.hamd What is this shit?
 supl.SuplierID == buy.SupplierID
 from mm in contxt.Users
 where buy.bchangeduser == usr.UserID
 select mm.UserID
 
Too many joins for me to visualize this, there is probably something wrong with the query. Maybe deconstruct it a little and make sure your source data set contains what you think it does
 
 
1:28 PM
@r.hamd And are you sure you don't need left joins?
 
Morning everyone.
 
@Loetn there is no left or right join in EF
 
People don't seem to understand that query syntax != SQL
 
@r.hamd There is -_-
 
Query syntax is dangerous like that.
 
1:29 PM
okay thank you guys alot
 
Also method syntax is better. Learn method syntax.
(y)
 
@Sippy Depends :)
(Personal preference..)
 
My personal preference is the best one.
 
@Sippy In LINQ?
 
Yeah
 
1:30 PM
@Sippy Aye captain!
 
:D
 
Brb, let me chance a lot of code
 
dons big hat
 
Well, LINQ is often taught as if it were SQL. Plus the original syntax before lambdas made it very, very similar.
 
It shouldn't be.
Because it isn't.
 
1:31 PM
Yeah, I've seen a lot of people who didn't differentiate between the LINQ Syntax (whether methods or query) and the LINQ Providers.
 
And that lol
 
I'm not disagreeing, just saying in school that is how they taught it.
 
Ah
Yeah well who learned anything from school ey
:D
 
Yeah.
 
Query syntax:
 
1:56 PM
rassum frassum microsoft
they've hacked together a stupid custom authentication system for Dynamics CRM
then hidden the logic of what that's really doing in this shoddy custom tool supplied in the SDK\
To get a token from the Live STS, one of the things you have to give it is a bit of cyphertext called a 'device registration'
To register a 'device' all you have to do is make up a username and a password and post it to a POX service on live.com
In other words, a pointless bit of make-work that turns integrating with CRM from moderately complicated to a complete pain in the plums
 
@TomW but it's all thoroughly well documented, right?
 
@RoelvanUden hey?
please tell me your here :P
 
hiiiii
okay few questions.
@RoelvanUden im asking about the first version actually. there is the StartAsync function which sends the byte values using binarywriter right?
 
It sends the initial screen, yes.
 
2:10 PM
@RoelvanUden i've just tried printing the newpixels[i].tostring value
it always remains 0...
 
The BinaryWriter is used on a MemoryStream, then that entire buffer it is send across the network in a WebSocket frame using the IProtocolStream
 
in the sender side i mean. when you loop over the pixel buffer
 
@Slashy It may be black :/
 
but it's everytime black lol
at the begging i mean
the delta works fine
 
I don't have that problem.
 
2:11 PM
anyone know a good place in the US for HDD recovery?
 
haha
it works also on mine... but the first values are always 0
try to print it yourself
but it doesnt realy mind because it works after.
 
It shouldn't be all 0.
But anyway, next Q? :P
 
haha okay
right now were using the desktop api, which can recognize the changes at the screen right?
so why when sending deltas you still have to make the conidition
if the pixels are equals continue...
 
!!tell roel womm
 
you cant get it directly from the desktop duplicator class? the moved and updated region?
 
@Slashy In HyperProtocol? Because a region is marked as dirty. But it doesn't necessarily mean that every pixel changed, so, to reduce bandwidth, I don't want to tell the receiver about pixels that haven't changed at all.
 
@RoelvanUden oh now i got it!
@RoelvanUden and you right the index value too to know when to update it right?
in the receiver side
 
@Slashy Yes, because otherwise the receiver won't know a thing.
Sender: "Hey this pixel changed!"
Receiver: "Cool bro. Where do I put it?"
Sender: "..."
 
XD
liked your illustrartion
 
2:27 PM
hey, anyone good with processing large datasets. I'd like to ask for an opinion
mainly on checking a large dataset for any changes, and then update each record that changed
 
@Squiggle oh it gets better. Said bodge service doesn't work
Or rather, live rejects the credentials you've just created, saying the password doesn't match. It does.
 
@TomW That sounds painful dude.
 
@Slashy I'm not sure why the JS receiver is so slow atm though. I bench-marked the frame updates, and I had it clocked at 5~6ms rendering and 1ms updating. So, in theory, it should be really fluent and fast. I clocked the network speed at ~500-800kb/s MAX (with the bad UNCOMPRESSED protocol) so that's not it either. If you have ideas I could check.. :-)
 
maybe the actualy bottelneck is in the sender side? @RoelvanUden
 
They've tried to make it 'simple' by hiding what it's actually doing
Making it next to impossible to reverse-engineer or do in a different way
 
2:43 PM
@Slashy Hm. Good point. I'll need to add more benchmark code to that.
I would imagine it's not but hey, without measuring it, it's just a guess.
 
@RoelvanUden yep totaly right.
 
Augh I miss skype
 
no, but it looks nice
 
@TomW :(
 
@ton.yeung I demoed it real quick a few weeks ago and it was slick
I ended up going with Umbraco because the designs my client gave me were insane but I liked it.
 
2:56 PM
Does it only do blogging?
 
I decided I was going to roll my own CMS/Blog platform though because the ones I've tried either come up short in features or are hard to set up for cloud deployment while maintaining the ability to do local development
Yeah, not too client friendly for more than writing the posts.
 
Yeah umbraco way better then
 

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