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12:00 AM
 
12:18 AM
Back!
 
Front!
 
Pirouette!
 
mr5
12:40 AM
o/
Morning
 
mr5
12:51 AM
These two things drive me nuts. Can't distinguish their usage. And need them both in my project:
com.google.android.gms.drive.Drive
com.google.api.services.drive.Drive
Anyway, I got those two working now by using their full package name
 
Oh God... Adam and my girlfriend are about to chat xD
 
1:10 AM
I don't even know her because Tristan won't shut up.
 
Steal my girlfriend I'll make you stop sucking Jesus
 
You can't bring jokes in here out of context, it's too bad.
 
What's this talk about stealing girlfriends?
 
user457812
All of you. Learn Go. It is the future.
 
1:13 AM
I'M THE FUCKING FUTURE
MUHAHA
 
user457812
looks at the big book of the future
 
user457812
Oh. Oh no. You wouldn't like what's in here.
 
user457812
Oh no.
 
Go? Go is the future? Nahh
 
user457812
looks at Tristan, frowning
 
1:14 AM
Go is cool.
 
user457812
looks back at the book
 
I prefer Stop
 
user457812
Man, you would not like it.
 
I want you to stop.
 
You guys should go watch Mr. Robot
 
user457812
1:15 AM
Damn it why is Crunchyroll under maintenance when I get home from work, made dinner, and have time to watch cartoons
 
user457812
OF ALL THE TIMES.
 
Adam's just making dad jokes to my girlfriend....
 
You people and your virtual girlfriends.
 
user457812
Oh, speaking of dad jokes, my coworker's kid was born today
 
user457812
1:16 AM
So that's awesome
 
That changes everything Nil
 
user457812
It actually does since he was in the middle of a project and there's not a chance in hell we're going to ask him to just ignore his kid and get back to work
 
user457812
So, I have to get another person up to speed on Go, I think
 
user457812
Which is hopefully not too hard but everyone in the office is used to dynamic/interpreted languages with an emphasis on classes and so it's kind of tricky to get people to not think in those terms.
 
I think you should just ask him to forget about his kid and keep working.
 
user457812
1:18 AM
That would be disturbingly awful.
 
It's the right thing to do.
Isn't his wife going ot be at home with the child?
 
user457812
I suspect your moral compass is more like a Klein bottle
 
TIL klein bottle
 
I am very flexible, yes.
 
user457812
Surprised you hadn't heard of one before now.
 
user457812
1:21 AM
Damn it, Crunchyroll, could you stay up after your maintenance period ಠ_ಠ
 
I thought you were in the process of stealing Tristans GF, why waste time here?
 
user457812
You can steal nothing with dad jokes.
 
She's a cheese head from Wisconsin, I think. I'll pass.
 
user457812
@TristanWiley Them's fighting words.
 
user457812
Get 'im.
 
1:22 AM
:)
 
user457812
C'man c'man c'mancmancmancman
 
They actually get along 0.o
 
user457812
You people are just bizarre.
 
Lol
 
user457812
wanders off to watch cartoons about family diner comedy
 
mr5
1:38 AM
More of those please :3
 
2:26 AM
Any more snippets @TristanWiley?
 
nana
 
Of the convo? Pleanty, but... Too many xD
 
codeMagic
 
 
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Yo People
 
 
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5:28 AM
Yo!
 
 
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6:35 AM
Morning, people
 
6:51 AM
\o
world has not come to an end.
 
7:09 AM
yo
 
hello
 
7:27 AM
0/
 
sometimes i feel like i'm just pressing play button all the damn morning.
my phone doesn't like to be stressed out and just ignores ADB if he's too busy updating twitter or sleeping ¬¬'
 
8:03 AM
dat moment when the cool relaxing summer song of your region starts playing everywhere...
 
8:24 AM
:D
@CptEric word! (regarding pressing the play button)
lol
 
If I understood it correctly than optimized data structures
as opposed to json
 
o/
 
I started reading that article but I somehow got distracted :[
\o
 
o/
 
8:40 AM
i feel it's a mess.
 
\o ocus
you know what's a mess?
logcat
never displaying the right logs when you need it to
I hate logcat
 
indeed. and dumping horrible amount of shit.
 
use filters or simply grep
 
no sometimes it doesn't display my logs at all
no filtering can help there
 
that's bad :/
 
8:51 AM
for what i've understood,those flat things is basically going back to ansi C pointers. with some improvements. ¬¬'
 
Ahmad, are you using the logcat window in AS or a normal terminal?
I think I had some issues with the one embedded in AS, thus, I'm always using a separate terminal
 
sarcastically cheers wohoo... back to memory managent. clearly 1MB more or less of used memory is super important enough to go back to the depths of programming, where the monsters lurk.
 
did you read their results?
 
yes. and they app keeps sucking hard no matter how good they are.
 
the reduced storage size is much less impressive than the load time improvement
10-15% faster cold start is also nice
 
8:57 AM
well it's obvious, there's no rocket science. a ANSI C script will run faster than a phyton script based on the obvious reason that one is treating data as serialized objects and the other is directly working on the ram and raw types.
 
@cygery in AS, I tried pidcat. It works better than AS but I want be able to click on the line number :/
 
click on the line number? what does it do? never heard of that feature :D
 
the question should be, it's worth dumping the idea of Objects in favour of 30ms less of load?
 
in certain cases, sure
 
with more than 1000 rows of data, yes.
but for a normal , user or business oriented app
the change is minimal
 
9:07 AM
pidcat looks nice
 
it's like getting SAP on your business.
it's only of use if you have a million bbdd requests or more a minute.
 
I'm always using fully qualified class names for my log tags so it's easy to grep
 
else you're wasting money and technology.
 
Anyone know much about recovering drive partitions?
 
recover from what error/overwrite?
 
9:10 AM
or format?
error and overwrite are easy, format is hard due to removed headers, most file recovers treat those files as binary entries with binary data without sense.
 
Basically clean installed Win10 last night. Accidentally installed to my storage drive (D, NTFS). I unhooked the drive, reinstalled Win10 again to my SSD (working fine) but now my 3TB storage has Win10 on it and I have no idea if I can recover the files?
 
that hurts.
 
Legit amateur as fuck
 
windows usually does a hard format when installing
 
Wasn't paying attention at the partition screen. Clicked drive 1 instead of drive 0
I mean, I have back ups of the important stuff and I can redownload games etc (apart from the fact I've lost my TW3 save with 100+ hours on it) but I was just wanting to see if I can rollback the drive
 
9:13 AM
i know, we (me and my girlfriend) erased all the work of her final assignment (google drive didn't sync before the format, thought it said it did).
it's not impossible but it's hard as hell.
i don't know of any free software that can do it correctly.
try with hiren's boot CD v10.01
if it's still online
had a lot of cracked antivirus recovery software from 2006-2009
later versions were sued and the software had to be removed
i could recover my final project after my drive made freefall jump without parachute from my desk with it.
 
haha. I'll see what I can do. I have Easus running at home, it had an ETA of ~3h to scan the removed partition so I wont be able to see if it's worked until after work. If not I guess Im spending tonight redownloading and reinstalling. Not the worst, at least I have a clean drive
 
yup.
i don't know how, but i have to cleanup my desktop pc
autodesk software filled the c drive too much.
 
I had a similar issue where Visual Studio and Android Studio install partly to the C drive. I only have a 120Gb SSD (for my OS) and they eat up a fuck ton of precious space between them
Also Win10 "free" upgrade is tied to your hardware. So if you ever upgrade your motherboard you need a licence key to install Win10 again
 
Source for that, Scott?
 
o/
 
9:28 AM
o/
 
"Not the worst, at least I have a clean drive" that's great positive thinking! :D
 
Two secs
I shall find
 
i'll wait to upgrade then
because i HAVE
to upgrade my CPU
else my renders will keep lasting hours.
 
@SaurabhVijay Access denied. The minimum reputation required for access is 100 points on StackOverflow as stated by the rules.
 
i'm doing a videogame & animation 2-year course.
and my old i5 2300 can't deal with my shit anymore.
 
9:34 AM
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winsupersite.com/windows-10/… - scroll to "Clean Installs for Hardware Changes"
I can't seem to find the link that I was reading yesterday which explains that the licence key acquired when you upgrade is stored on the motherboard of the machine you upgrade. Changing that essentially means you need a fresh copy of Win10
 
@KhushalChouhan Access granted. Welcome. Do not forget to read the rules.
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ok, thanks Scott
I will install windows 10 on the laptop of my wife than and get a real license for my gaming pc which will probably change more often
 
thanks scott
(forgot i could edit). so it's waiting for me, then.
 
Ah cool, I also did a videogame course. 50/50 programming and art, 60/40 in the second year, you choose a specialisation. but had to change course cause I draw like a 5 year old.
 
9:48 AM
i draw like shit too, but i'm not bad at texturting and programming and that saved me
 
10:08 AM
The rating category for my drawing skills need to be created first...
 
Any body have a simple understanding of 2d java games? very basic one
 
nope, sorry.
 
just need a bit of help understanding how the tiles are drawn in this example
 
I do, what example?
 
10:23 AM
I am following this guide kilobolt.com/game-development-tutorial.html which has been great. I am up to creating tiles for the background (the sea and the ground). Now i understand the 2d array is created and the bottom row has the ground tiles, and the row above that has the sea wave tiles. The tile class and the controlling StartingClass are here pastebin.com/rksvihRp
you can download the source for where i am up to in the guide here kilobolt.com/day-1-level-creation---part-1
 
ok and your question is?
 
is it going through the tiles 1 by 1 and minussing 1 from the X coordinate? then repainting it on screen?
i think im starting to understand it as i explain it
 
that is called rubberduck debugging
 
aaah right
i dont understand if say 3000 tiles are drawn and i havnt got to the end of them yet, or if the tiles are reset and it starts again
AHA that is it
sorry for wasting your time, at least it helps
for first time 2d game programming, I recommend this guide.
 
I wrote my own 2d gaming tutorials back in my old days
 
10:39 AM
well I would give them a try if they are available somewhere. I wanted to do android game programming but this guide recommended getting to grips with a basic java game before going to android.
 
the blog is offline, but thanks to that archive, you can still access it
I wrote this while I learned android at the same time
so it might not be the best and perfect way, but it is honestly the best I could provide back then :)
 
the most similar thing to a game i've done for android is a puzzle using touchevents , release events, and such.
 
The best thing was how raqhav discovered that droidnova was warren
 
indeed
Raghav approved my content! :D
 
that's almost 3 years back ;_;
 
10:45 AM
I am motherfucking old....
 
> PS: Feel free to ask on Stackoverflow.com if you need help while developing (Don’t just go there and ask for code!)
:D
(from the archives)
 
yeah, I am the reason why SO is so famous and big today...
 
;)
well in some regard you are
at least for the android tag
 
I doubt that :)
 
your first answer was on May 2 '12
 
10:50 AM
yeah, pretty late
 
it's not late at all
 
that's when i started learning android.
what year it is? o_O
 
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Q: Using ItemizedOverlay and OverlayItem In Android Beta 0.9

Reto MeierHas anyone managed to use ItemizedOverlays in Android Beta 0.9? I can't get it to work, but I'm not sure if I've done something wrong or if this functionality isn't yet available. I've been trying to use the ItemizedOverlay and OverlayItem classes. Their intended purpose is to simulate map mark...

 
OH WAIT
Sep 28 '09!
 
first Android question... made by Reto
 
10:51 AM
not 2012
@CptEric Sep 28 '09 is the correct date of his first answer lol ^^
damn 6 years ago :D
 
dat moment when you realize millenials are soon to be adults...
 
and I am still a newb :D
I became a professional android developer around that time, Ahmad
 
I shall have a look through your tutorial after I have completed this one, looks like a good starting point for android, thanks Warren.
 
01.10.2009 I started at my company
 
as a bachelor student or did you already start your masters at that point?
 
11:01 AM
as a bachelor
I was second or third semester, if I recall correctly
 
cool old stories :)
 
learn from our mistakes, always stay ahead!
 
@matty357 why the hell would you make a game in java? If you want to make a game you're better of using one of the many game engines available and follow their tutorials. That is if gamedevelopment is the thing you want to learn. If you want to learn to make android apps while making a game then yeah that approach might be better. But you could just start straight in android I guess.
 
well i havn't done any game stuff at all, needed a basic start. I was going to start in android but this tutorial seemed to provide the basics to game programming in java, then moves on to android. I just felt like have the java foundation would lead to easier understanding of the android game programming
 
11:27 AM
bad fragment concept is bad...
 
11:55 AM
\w+ doesn't match extended unicode characters?!
;_;
fuck this
now I have to change \w+ to \p{L} everywhere. fun.
 
that is, like my problem, a typical Layer 8 issue
 
lol
just looked up what layer 8 refers to
@Rosalie Welcome back. Please read the room rules.
 
I have read and understood the rules
I am having an issue with changing the positioning of buttons in Relative Layout dynamically
 
12:19 PM
sounds like you should create a question on SO for that
 
12:42 PM
im enjoying this game programming in java, easy to follow.
 
TIL hub. Create Pull requests from the command line.
Awesome
 
although i should be working ha
 
My task list for today was:

"Change the logo to link back to the homepage"
And that's from my actual line manager
 
1:00 PM
Good morning, folks!
 
Morning!
 
hi ya
 
Afternoon. How are we?
 
Let you know after a couple cups of coffee :P
 
Mac users, stay safe ;)
 
1:08 PM
Morning cM
 
mr5
Evening :)
 
Chess anyone?
 
yo, kabuto
 
the coffee masta!
 
I'll take some coffee
 
1:27 PM
^
 
I have completed my first ever java 2d game yay
 
nice
 
@Allu Access granted. Welcome. Do not forget to read the rules.
 
Thanks @OcuS
 
Doesn't wifi p2p disable wifi connectivity? Like when you setup a hotspot, that will prevent you from accessing internet via wifi.
 
mr5
1:31 PM
@matty357 What is it?
 
Awesome, matty!
 
cM \o/
 
@OcuS I am getting one problem with getting number of wrong unlock patterns. It is working for the Version 4.4 but it is showing error for %.0 and above versions
 
and there he goes
 
It was you this time, Ocus :D
 
1:33 PM
FIXED.
Sorry :|
 
Lol! That's ok, it was fun while it lasted
 
@Allu You didn't read the rules. Enjoy your ban.
I felt magnanimous... I was full of hope...
 
I know the feeling. It hurts deep being let down
I have one problem with my ExpandableListView. It's not working correctly.
Wait, I think I know how to fix it now
 
no you dont cM, you need to spend 10 minutes more before it is fixed
 
are there some tools/libraries for android to mock server responses? e.g. a have a model, a request a mocked json response with array of those models - it generates - voila?
 
Ok, kabuto, I will stare at it some more before fixing it :P
 
lool
 
that doesn't really sound like it'd be a tool for android specifically though
 
1:50 PM
actually - yes, java in general was meant here
I'm just sick of doing this:

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@mr5 Sorry, was away programming. its this tutorial kilobolt.com/game-development-tutorial.html starts of a simple java game 2d scroller, then once you get the basics of the game programming you move on to android. Its not of my own design, ive just completed the java tutorial, ha i should have mentioned that.
 
I mean you could either A) make a bare bones server that will generate spoofed data to return to you. or B) make a java class that has all of the same methods as the one that interacts with the server but have it generate spoofed data and return it instead of making actual requests
 
create a dev server
 
And that's not even for testing - we write client app's code aherad of backend, so we have to create jsons that will be later available from server

sorry, proper link:
https://monosnap.com/file/XSW4CHhAmGaqEOpkXaRXFCHO6Ztjbq.png
 
1:52 PM
Den, you can try to work with okhttp and/or retrofit. You can add a mock server there easily
 
no, you don't understand )
I do use okhttp
we don't have staging server yet - that's not the problem )
look at my screenshot
 
ok, and what is your actual problem?
 
^
not sure I understand which part is the issue
having to hard code nasty JSON strings?
 
I'm tired of sitting and constructing strings, that are json's actually
yes!
 
so make objects and then convert to json
 
1:55 PM
hmmmmm.... actually, that might be an idea
 
just add them to assets as textfiles, read them
 
> just add them to assets as textfiles
nothing changes, I still have to generate them
 
mr5
@matty357 Nice! I also start my programming hobby by creating games as well :) Is it an Android game btw?
 
which is not really a problem, right?
 
that page shows how to use Jackson to convert objects. I've never used it. Could've sworn there was something built in though that works too but can't recall for sure I've only gone from JSON -> object in java not the other way
 
1:58 PM
make an eum with the file name as constructor, write one read/parse method and it is "done" as soon as you access the enum
 
Also if your looking to generate lots of fake data relatively quickly I might suggest doing it in python and just saving the output as text to copy into java.
 
and the benefit is that you just need to write json in a text file which is cleaner to do than concat strings
 
do you have to escape double quotes if you store the text in a file?
should do it for you I would guess, but don't know that I've ever tried
 
no, you do not have to
 
Warren - about concat is true...
ok, I now see several options here, thanks, people!
 
2:00 PM
yep
make us proud
 
Go Rimus Go!
 
also you might want to check the sanity of whoever decided to store the birthdate like 02.02.1990
 
timestamp it is!
 
and tell Viktoria AngryCat that room 15 says hi.
 
lol
 
2:15 PM
found something like it
http://json-schema-faker.js.org/#
2
 
nice, thanks
 
\oo
 
o/ Een
 
@bhuvin Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
2:31 PM
yo cM?
 
yo, Een?
 
here's more about json btw: github.com/burningtree/awesome-json
 
how are you doing today cM? still in javascript hell?
lol
 
haha...nope! That's on the back burner for a bit while I work on some Android features
 
2:52 PM
So, Harvard encourages thieves and con men? Nice
 
hahaa
 
@mr5 I learnt to create the game in Java first, I am now doing the part of the tutorial that develops it in android.... should be interesting/frustrating
 
@matty357 What does it use?
 

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