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11:00 AM
except people say that :\
 
 
> ball of yarn
lol
 
@TonyTheLion let's call it quits
 
is that a pun?
 
exam incoming
 
11:14 AM
@TonyTheLion possibly
 
I can't wait to feel the good feeling of when I pass it.
 
:24121468 spelling is not improving
@BartekBanachewicz Visualize Success!
 
yeah. Just be prepared. Helps
 
I even understood what is MAC yesterday
only took two years
 
11:17 AM
Macintosh
I thought that was common knowledge really
 
user1804599
morning sluts
 
If I hear one more request for more RAM for anything I'm gonna fork someone
 
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@Ven why?
 
morning sluts best sluts
 
@buttifulbuttefly Mandatory Access Control
 
Ven
11:19 AM
@rightfold cause I've seen the hell in scala by trying to mix both ASTs
 
dat flag, rightfold, not even you can flag that. Oh wait. Mayyybe you can
 
user1804599
help
 
user1804599
what is safestack
 
user1804599
> SafeStack is an instrumentation pass that protects programs against attacks based on stack buffer overflows, without introducing any measurable performance overhead.
 
Ven
11:23 AM
it uses a stack for "data", and a different stack for function pointers and stuff like that
 
user1804599
@Ven so you'd have three AST type sets
 
Ven
@rightfold three? typed, untyped
 
user1804599
one emitted by the parser
 
user1804599
one which contains resolved symbols
 
user1804599
and one which contains resolved symbols and types
 
Ven
11:26 AM
i think you can merge 2 and 3? or rather, do name resolution while building the typed tree
 
user1804599
eww
 
lol pokemon credit cards
 
In Poland you can get them with arbitrary image
but it can't have visa symbols/bank logos etc
 
user1804599
goatse
 
@BartekBanachewicz does the image have to be socially acceptable.... or can you rightfold it?
 
11:29 AM
never tried with putting rightfold, but I can see his face being rejected
 
@BartekBanachewicz Poland sounds good
 
@khajvah we have the best credit card infrastructure in the world
 
amazing
 
@Mgetz I would get one
not with pokemon tho because not a fan
 
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@BartekBanachewicz but no money to spend SCRN
 
11:31 AM
I'd get a custom visa I mean
 
hehe
@rightfold americans thought they have money to spend and then suddenly bank crisis
I don't have a CC but I have a loan to pay up :/
 
user1804599
Creative Commons
 
furniture sent me way over budget
 
@rightfold Poland has no money ? o_O
 
user1804599
@Ven I want them to be separate steps.
 
11:32 AM
@khajvah well, we don't have nearly as much as western countries
 
user1804599
Types have no influence on name resolving.
 
which is actually good in that a lot of foreign companies invest here
 
user1804599
Scope is always lexical.
 
the cultural barrier is much less problematic than with China or India, the quality of Polish workers is v good
and it's still cheaper
 
Ven
@rightfold first names, then types, obviously
 
11:35 AM
@BartekBanachewicz we use the Ukraine and Prague actually
 
Czech rep. is pretty similar cost-wise
 
in the meantime I am getting only a little more than 500 bucks per month, which is almost twice as much as the average salary in here.
 
Ven
@khajvah I got more than that at $internship
 
@khajvah full-time?
 
user1804599
@Ven yes
 
11:37 AM
@Ven I was getting exactly 0$ per month as an intern
@BartekBanachewicz yes
 
Ven
you have to pay your interns if they're doing a internship for more than 2 months in France (at least 436e (this year))
 
@BartekBanachewicz 2/10
 
Ven
also, internships can't be longer than 6 months.
 
user1804599
Also
 
user1804599
import (
    mill.encoding.ascii
    mill.io
)
 
11:38 AM
@Ven that's dumb
 
user1804599
Should this be a single AST node or two AST nodes?
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not
 
Ven
@rightfold ImportDecl [Name, Name]
 
@BartekBanachewicz so subtly victim-y (yeah yeah - just a turn of phrase)
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz no, too many people abused internships to have low-cost employees
 
user1804599
11:38 AM
@Ven Why not ImportDecl Name twice?
 
Ven
@rightfold vOv. go for it
 
try again
:D
I declare victory
 
Ven
ff7 victory theme
 
user1804599
@Ven ok:v
 
user1804599
That's what's currently in AST.hs.
 
Ven
11:39 AM
good
 
@Ven Well then, regulate internships themselves, not set such deadlines
it's pretty much an invitation to getting rid of those people after 6 months :/
 
@BartekBanachewicz I carry my CC in my billfold all the time. I admit that's a left fold. But I open it to the right
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz you're joking? You realize that, one morning, a boss can tell an intern to never come again, and there's pretty much nothing he can do against it, right?
 
foldr rings close to twittr and tumblr
 
@BartekBanachewicz how is that an invitation? It's not. It's a commandment
 
11:40 AM
:D on my way to Dublin shortly to see mastodon (spelled wrong I'm sure)
 
Ven
a friend of mine wasn't paid for half of his internship, and when employees went to court, he got that he wouldn't get anything (but the employees would)
 
@Ven a lot of people work on contracts that can be instantly terminated
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz so"having an excuse to terminate them" is a shitty excuse
 
They both work ways, you know
 
Ven
they'll just do it anytime they please.
 
11:42 AM
Polish government tried to convince people to take such "better" contracts by taking more money from them
very good idea.
 
I don't understand why people do unpaid intern ...
 
Go figure why I work on B2B
 
Ven
@chmod711telkitty for their résumés
 
The only reason for residency requirement as foreigners
 
@Ven don't
 
Ven
11:43 AM
@BartekBanachewicz oh, I never would. But my résumé has stuff in it already.
 
I mean don't argue with telkitty
 
@Ven only important until you got 2nd job
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz I don't understand telkitty most of the time
 
I don't think she understands either
 
Ven
and we say sehe is cryptic
 
11:44 AM
but there's reason behind sehe's crypticness
 
sehe is cryptic, telkitty is telkitty
And I'm dying in this project
send help
 
telkitty, adj. - making no sense
@CatPlusPlus you brought this on yourself
isn't it almost done?
 
pugilist, adj. - word of the day
> A committed pugilist has a long list of clever ways to bait you into an argument. You'll never win, of course, because the argument itself is what the pugilist seeks. Call it out, give it a name, share this post and then walk away. Back to work actually making things better
 
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also @Ven the analyzer must know which platform it's targetting
 
user1804599
otherwise it can't verify the data type of main
 
user1804599
11:47 AM
in JS you don't have stdout for example, so taking it as an argument in main should fail
 
@CatPlusPlus what if you fail ... nothing really important is going to happen, you move on. So don't panic.
 
Uh a lot of money is going to happen
That's p important
Or rather not going to happen
 
And then going to happen in reverse
 
but it's like, not your money
 
11:50 AM
Company being in trouble is bad news for me regardless
 
what's so important? people going to die from starvation, they are going to be homeless?
 
Ven
 
this picture is a remnant of the good old days of the internet
 
@sehe I don't really like pugilists for a vast number of reasons, they're really annoying. In the majority of cases I will prefer pugivectors.
 
don't make fun of fat people ...
 
11:52 AM
@BartekBanachewicz How to joke
@chmod711telkitty Trying to defend your mom?
 
@buttifulbuttefly how to what
 
exactly
 
My mom is pretty skinny being an Asian growing up in China during the communist regime ...
 
> Asian
> China
> Communist
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz In Germany too
 
11:53 AM
Provided to you by the department of redundancy department
 
Xeo
I got one with this as the background.
 
dem pixals
 
Xeo
doesn't matter on a CC :P
 
Not if it's a blind CC :P
 
well, you have higher chance of being fat if: 1) you are not asian 2) grow up in an english speaking country 3) during the modern time
 
11:55 AM
> 2) grow up in an english speaking country
wat
ITT speaking english makes fat
 
Xeo
@sehe Obviously. If you speak German, it makes you "fett" instead.
 
so Twofish has exactly 16 rounds
AES 10/12/14
 
Man I should know the German adjective for fat, but that test was such a long time ago.
 
> The stable release of Rust 1.1 brings much faster compile times (Rust 1.1 stable is a 32% improvement over Rust 1.0 in boot-strapping), improved error messages, new std::fs APIs, musl libc support, and other improvements.
Rust continues to make C++ developers cry :/
 
Xeo
@Nooble Psst: I just wrote it.
 
11:57 AM
@Xeo Ah. That was much simpler than I thought
 
also uh DES is labeled as having 16 rounds (ok) but 3DES is labelled as having 3
well TECHNICALLY
 
3 rounds of DES
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Obviously the DES is a better gun in that case.
 
clearly speaking english makes people fat
 
11:59 AM
correlation != causation
 
wow.
it's. I.
How about Blowfish
also feistel network, also 16 rounds
 
Horst Feistel was a smart guy
 
I need DOG on infinite loop
 
12:02 PM
> A fantastic opportunity for software developers (highly skilled in Perl, C++ or Python) to join one a renowned software house as Software Developer, based in South East Hampshire.
why do recruiters think I want to do Perl?
 
ah infinite loop
for some reason I read that as laptop
here's a cat though
 
Good job
 
 
@BartekBanachewicz vicious
 
12:03 PM
Why is xkcd even in feeds
 
Shut up, cat.
 
It has less funny strips than C&H
 
@AlexM. he's a total killing machine
 
I thought he was eating a carrot there
 
but always just pretends to bite you :D
@CatPlusPlus that happened to be my finger
 
12:04 PM
Why do you have carrot fingers
 
better carrot fingers than carroting brain
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Do you have a second cat yet?
 
@Xeo nope.
 
@CatPlusPlus less funny than B^U
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That
 
12:05 PM
@Mr.kbok Shots fired
 
@CatPlusPlus Your taste is not relevant. People used to post every today's xkcd, several times a day.
 
yeah but why
 
Because they like it.
 
yeah but whyy
 
WTF, are all Poles incapable of understanding that other people exist?
 
12:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes now that is a good question
one worth investigating
 
Lounge<Catman++>
 
The BEAR and LION block ciphers were invented by Ross Anderson and Eli Biham by combining a stream cipher and a cryptographic hash function. The algorithms use a very large variable block size, on the order of 213 to 223 bits or more. Both are 3 round generalized Feistel ciphers, using the hash function and the stream cipher as round functions. BEAR uses the hash function twice with independent keys, and the stream cipher once. LION uses the stream cipher twice and the hash function once. The inventors proved that an attack on either BEAR or LION that recovers the key would break both the stream...
cc @sehe @Tony
 
exam in 50 minutes
god
 
you should be furiously studying
 
12:12 PM
I really think I know a lot of this stuff
but knowledge isn't what's important there
4
 
no excuses for failing, we will be watching ya!
 
People should read more good webcomics
Like CuQu
I've rediscovered the best video on tubyube and it's also a good approximation of this project youtube.com/watch?v=MXgnIP4rMoI
 
@CatPlusPlus still waiting for the hard copy of S3
but I still can't push myself to read up to S3 :/
 
@CatPlusPlus were you watching the 'the ultimate failure compilation'?
 
12:21 PM
> June is LGBT Pride Month -- a moment to celebrate diversity and show our pride in the contributions of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people to communities all over the world.
"celebrating" diversity sounds extremely weird
 
why don't we celebrate the varying incomes as well
 
Not really
 
or varying dick sizes
 
@BartekBanachewicz WTF
 
12:22 PM
@BartekBanachewicz should start a movement?
 
look how diverse our dicks are
isn't that great
let's celebrate woo
 
@BartekBanachewicz yesh?
 
@BartekBanachewicz People do that.
 
why don't we celebrate contributions of people who like the color green to communities all over the world
 
@BartekBanachewicz "celebrating" is a pretty normal word for "externally sharing appreciation of"
 
12:22 PM
and people who dislike noodles
 
We do.
 
The slippery slope is strong with this one.
2
 
I also appreciate of people who don't wash jeans too often
 
why just LGBT
IDGI
 
12:23 PM
Er, that's not true.
Also, I thought you'd only say positive things for a month.
 
@BartekBanachewicz because they want to celebrate their community, its not that hard to understand.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not saying that this celebration is a bad thing
But I don't see the point, either.
@TonyTheLion for the whole month?
 
all right, thanks++ — Maximal Xarra 18 secs ago
 
@BartekBanachewicz So? Why is that an issue?
what the hell do you care??
 
12:25 PM
It appeared in my facebook feed
@TonyTheLion It's not an issue, I am just puzzled at this particular form of support ("one month of celebration")
 
user1804599
I wonder whether GitHub displays man pages.
 
@BartekBanachewicz then what do you want us to do about your puzzelings?
 
Shouldn't we appreciate "contributions to communities all over the world" each and every day?
Shouldn't we be thankful equally for everyone nice regardless of sexual orientation?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes he failed looooong before :)
 
So what you're saying is that this celebration is a good thing, then.
 
12:27 PM
I'm saying it isn't bad.
but
 
we know you're puzzled
 
@BartekBanachewicz well then. That's a pretty isolated "problem" then. I think we'll leave that where it belongs.
 
what sehe said ^
 
@BartekBanachewicz Only pointless, then.
 
oh, thank god @sehe and @tony are so aware of the point of it
at least someone understands
 
12:29 PM
they want to celebrate, isn't that enough of a point?
 
I'll cheerfully stay ignorant then because it's best to leave problems where they belong
 
Hint: with you, that is
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's what happens when you can only say positive things.
 
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also I don't know whether writing man pages manually is a good idea
 
user1804599
maybe I should use reStructuredText
 
12:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not dismissing it as pointless, I'm saying that I don't see the point.
 
I mean. There are a lot of things I don't care about.
But that is pretty much incompatible with me expending energy telling random internet strangers how I don't get it
 
the difference might be subtle
 
I'm happy to know you - like zillions of us - don't see the point
 
@sehe what was implied in saying that was a question of "why"
 
1 min ago, by Tony The Lion
they want to celebrate, isn't that enough of a point?
There's your answer.
 
12:31 PM
@BartekBanachewicz the purpose of Pride marches stems from the era when LGBT people weren't celebrated, but were illegal and oppressed. In some ways they still face hardships in the modern era, so pride marches to show support still continue.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes clearly not, if I asked.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then the problem is you.
 
I'll continue in not seeing the point then. Thanks for your support.
@TheForestAndTheTrees mmm
 
It's written right there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't call out a "month of bartek pride" every time I feel a need to celebrate.
 
12:32 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I thought they didn't want to be considered different
 
@BartekBanachewicz Your loss.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see
@Jefffrey I guess that wasn't/isn't the case.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Please also don't
 
Please do!
 
we already have a "say only positive things month"
we can make the following month a month of bartek appreciation
 
12:34 PM
Let's see how long it lasts
 
heading off for the exam
see you alter
 
good luck
 
so guys what's up?
 
the sky
 
a message
hey tony
are you back for good?
 
12:35 PM
hey jefffrey
 
He's back for evil
 
@Jefffrey donno, haven't decided
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's your choice. Apparently you don't feel the need. Perhaps this is because you're already aware of the fact that you're you, and there aren't many of you around to share this identity with
 
@Borgleader There is always love for you <3
 
12:45 PM
<3
 
why is france targeted by isis?
 
^ wow
 
Nothing in the UK, nothing in Germany, only France ...
 
...
That doesn't make "Isis targets XXX". It makes "Terrorists seem to attack in France more".
 
article says "Salafists"
they're not ISIS afaik
 
12:51 PM
SCHOOL IS FINALLY DONE.
 
@Nooble gratz
 
user1804599
huh apparently twotter usernames are casie-sentisive
 
@Nooble Stuy starts at 9 but i'm out of state so bah, i'm done.
 
@Nooble university?
 
@khajvah high school
he goes to HMJGTS or somehting
 
12:52 PM
@Borgleader Thanks.
And by done I mean I still have to go back next year, and then the one after that, and the one after that.
 
how old are you?
 
he's 14ish
 
user1804599
@sehe fuck terrorists
 
user1804599
zombie apocalypse is much better
 
@Nooble Have you accepted my friend request on Steam?
 
12:57 PM
zombie>terrorist
 
I can add you to the group after that.
Couldn't figure out how to add non-friends.
Oh, you're in the group already.
 
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