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8:00 PM
Damn, Ahmad, who appointed you as fashion police? lol
 
Never heard of him
But looks like someone I would hate
 
not to be confused with this guy:
André Tanneberger (German pronunciation: [ʔanˈdʁeː ˈtanəbɛʁɡɐ]), under his stage name of ATB, (born February 26, 1973 in Freiberg, Saxony, Germany) is a German DJ, musician, and producer of techno & dance music. According to the official world DJ rankings governed by DJ Magazine, ATB was ranked #11 in 2009 and 2010, and #15 in 2011. In 2011, he was ranked as world number 1 according to "The DJ List". He is best known for his 1999 single "9 PM (Till I Come)" which was a number one single in the United Kingdom. == Musical career == Tanneberger started his music career with the dance music g...
 
he probably went after the main role in 17 again, but they turned him down hard. and now he's trying to prove the world he's young.
 
yes that's definitely his story
 
8:01 PM
^^MR to Carl's pictures.
 
> Total: 20042 8839 0.4410238499151781 9636 0.4807903402854007 1567 0.078185809799‌​42122
hmm...not formatted very well
 
WAT (0 characters left)
 
that's over 20k lines of Java code in my baseball card app...and 44% of that is source, 48% comments, 8% blank lines.
hmmm....that counts lines in all the R.java files and the generated ViewInjectors from ButterKnife.
 
Yeah I wish it didn't count R.java that would help.
 
would certainly be more accurate
In fact it should complete ignore any build folder
 
8:06 PM
cM, so you like hating stuff that you don't like?
lol
 
@RaghavSood more like "wc -l find . | grep .java"
 
Hmm. Using it directly's worked for me
 
even with subdirectories?
 
Ahhh
Sub directories
Yeah, I don't think I had those
 
8:11 PM
I feel like Carl does a little fist pump and says to himself "Crushed it" every time he gives someone a reality check.
4
 
Een, no just things worthy of my hate :P
 
@Ahmad Trover, after my nearly 2 years here (and other devs before that) is only 21k LoC
 
Things that have earned enough rep to be hated by thee
 
I found Emm's sock puppet account...
Why not to show a splash screen while your app is being initialized? If the user presses back during that time you abort the initialization. — Alex 1 min ago
 
Emm is the perfect guy to ask for advice on how to build a good splash screen
 
8:16 PM
hehe
 
@CarlAnderson okay looking at the github contributors tab there seem to be 4 main contributors
the one has left the company since
he apparently is also a GDE
but yeah, still lots of code
 
how old is the app?
 
3 years
the app is divided in the java sdk, a sync layer (we implement our own real time sync), and then the android app
 
> real time sync
wat
 
ahmad where are you interning again? Germany's Top ToDo List or something?
 
8:20 PM
^^
there can only be one todo list app
 
jlin why don't you make a list of the 9 best start ups for ahmad to intern at
 
@CarlAnderson our own GCM like thingy
 
ah ok
 
Uh, 7shifts, 7shifts, 7shifts, 7shifts, maybe Trover, 7shifts, 7shifts, 7shifts, 7shifts.
 
actually it's way more than a todo list app
 
8:21 PM
It also has timers?
 
it's a productivity tool™
you wanna sponsor me a visa jlin?
 
^ the sarcasm is strong with the Dave
 
no seriously guys the app is awesome af
 
I'm sure we could work something out, haha, but going from Berlin to Saskatchewan would be a change. There are 1.2 million people in the area twice the size of Germany.
 
I use it ever day
woah
 
8:23 PM
Ahmad drank the Kool-Aid at the welcome event.
 
what is the app called Ahmad
 
Does anyone know if a Google Play enabled device can receive GCM without being ever logged into a Gmail account?
 
nope they can't iirc
 
I just rated it 1 star because the name is in german
3
and I'm american
 
8:24 PM
can you intern intern in canada without having a bachelors degree, jlin?
 
Freedom knows no bounds.
 
Ha... I don't even have a bachelor's
 
didn't you go to uni? lol
 
I did. I failed my last class and already had my job lined up
Never went back. 3 years and counting.
 
8:25 PM
aaah :D
wow, then I'll consider it actually
canada sounds cool
 
I think Canada has a pretty lenient work/travel visa you can do internships with, not sure.
 
see that android app? snapshots from an iPhone
 
@Ahmad Sorry for my late reply. I did my internship at Monkube :) They're awesome!
 
can't go to the US on a J1 visa unless I've completed the first 2 semesters
 
That $49.99 wunderkinder in-app purchase better do my ToDos for me.
 
8:26 PM
lol
pretty sure they'll get rid of that, now after the MS acquisition they are probably following another strategy
 
Pivotal Labs has a big shop in Toronto. Shopify is in Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver, I think.
 
I never finished my Uni either :D
 
@Eenvincible LOL wow.
 
@miva2 awesome :)
 
I think the only canadian startup I know is Thalmic Labs.
 
8:27 PM
Yes it is ahmad!! :D
 
@jlindenbaum but I heard 7shifts it's where it's at ;)
 
Canada is cool, always wanted to go there
 
I have not been there.
 
:P if you can handle the Prairies
 
I'm planning on staying there at least a month somewhere in the coming 10 years or so
 
8:29 PM
Although my buddy and I are feeling nostalgic after watching the Stanley Cup last night that we want to drive to Toronto for the hockey hall of fame next spring lol
 
Canada is awesome amounts of fun.
 
pff, I would't go outside either way!
 
I would force you to go outside.
 
So if my app made $1,000,000 Google will take 33% of that?
 
Camping with Bison!
 
8:29 PM
:0
that I would do
 
I heard if you go outside in Canada your chances of being mauled by a Moose skyrocket.
 
Funny you should say that... there is a warning here for increased sightings / car accidents of Moose.
 
@Eenvincible 30%
 
that hurts;
 
And that you always have to keep hockey sticks in your car in case your car breaks down you can play while you wait.
 
8:30 PM
Een, Just do what rdio and spotify and those guys do. Bump your prices 30%.
 
but if your price is 99 cents - because you want more to afford;
 
wow, I just checked the crashlytics dashboard
so many users on the app rn
 
Een, for a price that low, I'd argue you're better off offering it for free, showing ads, and offering In-Apps for premium features / no ads.
99 cents is going to make you diddly-squat. The barrier for people actually buying apps on Android is massively high.
 
So you think ads generate significant revenues?
 
8:33 PM
free usually means more downloads, if you can get your ad fill-rate up you'll probably make a little more off the ads, than you would if you sold the app for 99 cents and only got a few users.
 
I hate ads anywhere myself.
I might consider that option - free + ads
Although I hate ads lol
 
I need to find a way to get more downloads.
 
say you got 10k free downloads and 2000-3000 users using it per month, with the right ad network you could probably get $30-$40/m off those users. If you offered the app for 99 cents I don't think you'll get more than 30-40 downloads a month, so you'll make less after Google's cut.
That's been my experience, anyway. Someone else might have a different experience
 
First you need to think, is this something someone should pay for? Are there better free ones? Then go into thinking about what to do, if the ads aren't obtrusive you can make it free and if you want add and in app purchase to remove them.
 
I think more things should be free and ad powered
though in my ideal world the whole concept behind marketing would not exist at all
 
8:36 PM
Not a fan of that line of thinking at all. I was massively disappointed at how resistant people are to paying for apps on Android.
 
bitcoin billionare takes ad revenue to an extreme
 
There's this absolutely absurd race to the bottom.
 
Interesting ideas here
 
Software is not a commodity, it should not be free. It should create a real value proposition, and have users pay for it.
 
I like installing lots of things
even crappy apps
 
user457812
8:38 PM
I'm in favor of authors doing what they want and people not being judgmental about others charging for their work.
 
user457812
In other words, free software is OK and paid software is OK and people need to stop assuming one is a better option than the other by price alone
 
I'd like to see Play and AppStore have proper trialling or demo features for paid aps to remove the hurdle. So you don't end up with all this garbage "MyApp Lite"
 
I don't like paying for what could be a crap app without a trial period
 
well ofcourse some apps should be paid because that's how they can provide the better service
 
yeah there should be jlin
 
8:38 PM
I like free things :D
 
user457812
I think in-app purchases work well for that, but it's a pain because it's not correctly advertised
 
user457812
If you could just designate an in-app purchase you've already set up as a "get out of trial mode" thing, then the store could advertise that
 
user457812
All of these stores require you to pre-register your IAPs, so there's no reason you couldn't say "this app is free but has a paid get-out-of-jail mode"
 
yeah otherwise you get 1 star ratings like, "Says free but can't do anything unless you pay"
 
user457812
8:40 PM
Pretty much.
 
user457812
It's not like it's dishonest of developers, it's just that stores haven't adapted to handle an obvious pattern
 
Don't you get 1 star ratings anywayfrom people who just didn't know how the app works or who expected something different?
 
that review is common
 
I like that idea, nil.
 
user457812
Or the people in Android land who complain about things not working on their rooted, weirdly customized phone
 
8:42 PM
Ha, dave, we get a few of those "App is not free at all, you need a subscription to log in."
 
some users are crazy with the hate;
they don't even give a hoot about your efforts;
 
user457812
Some guy gave me a two-star review once because he rooted his phone, imaged some Chinese fork of Android onto it for the UI, then was surprised when it wasn't using GL correctly
 
App is not free, requires 99 cents to load app. Otherwise it crashes.
 
sometimes I think people just download an app to relieve themselves and give a negative review
 
It's funny when the Chinese team fucks up on the firmware and the app gets rated poorly because of an issue with the grill
actually it's not funny, it's annoying as fuck
fuck the Chinese team
 
8:43 PM
Fucking China
 
hahaa
 
user457812
Grill?
 
Murica bitchezzz
 
user457812
Also, racism is bad.
 
Yeah, fuck America.
 
user457812
8:43 PM
Exactly.
 
Long live everyone else
 
Like Canada!
 
lol
 
Blame Canada!
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8:44 PM
Canada is not even a Country lol
 
Canada is like America's annoying little brother.
 
that is a lot of fucks
 
No one messes with America's hat.
 
Yeah, they made Bieber. Ew
 
Canada is in America
and I believe it's bigger
 
8:45 PM
What about America's pants?
 
Hello Android
 
but then again... My little brother is also way bigger than me
 
I created another almost useless tool.
enjoy
 
congratulations on enlightening us with your almost useless tool!
lol wow, it made me laugh
 
rlem I'm on my phone, what's it do?
 
8:46 PM
Also, Canada is the shit.
@TristanWiley lemmy show you
 
user457812
I'd be worried about someone getting the firmware on a grill wrong
 
user457812
That's spooky
 
@rlemon connection refused
 
It doesn't work lol
 
It does now
 
8:46 PM
@jlindenbaum yes there is a bug
 
Wow, it is useless. You were right!
;P
 
no one can use it while an image is generating
I suck at file access
 
you are in Canada too huh?
 
user457812
Sounds like you need to use Go. Always.
 
Yeah that's pretty useless =p
 
user457812
8:47 PM
Really, the solution to most problems is apply more Go.
 
Use Brainfuck
 
Or LOLCODE
 
I htought it was 42
 
ooooh i think i have file lock!
 
8:47 PM
Or whitespace
 
I will learn go this summer \O/
 
user457812
I saw a Brainfuck interpreter in lolcode.
 
Good one Adam
 
 
8:48 PM
so this is why it was laggy
hahaha
everyone is using it :P
 
Ohhhhh
Beautiful
 
"everyone" hahah
 
cool i got an image but I didnt put in any text
 
user457812
... I'm going to put this in the chatroom at work.
 
user457812
I'm sorry, rlemon, I hope you're not using AWS.
 
8:49 PM
 
it's on his raspberry pi in his bedroom
 
So, bot command?
 
@nil nope
 
user457812
Even better
 
this is laggy and slow because it is on my godaddy server
so hammer away
 
8:49 PM
rofl godaddy
 
Used them
 
I'm moving to OVH as soon as possible.
 
user457812
We shall be swift and merciless.
 
yes enlighten the bot with this wonderful command!
 
8:50 PM
Wow, what kinda air quotes gif is that?
rlemon's is way better.
 
He's not your lemon, he's our lemon.
 
all the app does is invoke gm convert on the command line and then pipe the response to imgur, then delete the temp image.
 
ba dum tsh
 
that's where you got it
 
8:51 PM
I love lemons
 
next step: fix the font.
step after that: write it as a bot plugin
 
lemons are bitter though; I want sweet lemons
 
Next stop, Canada.
 
just add sugar
 
8:52 PM
AND THEN THE WORLD! MUAHAHAHAHA
 
Lemon's are all a bunch of yellow bellied sour pusses
 
Then get a .io domain
 
user457812
I have a bunch of .io domains
 
 
have I ever said how much I like your name, mr. lemon?
 
8:53 PM
ahh shit
bug bug bug
 
user457812
meatmaps.io For example
 
ABORT ABORT
 
when you append to a CSV file.. make sure to append it as a new line :/
eeek
 
I want my name to be lemon
 
8:53 PM
haha Dave
 
I can never disassociate lemons with that
 
@Eenvincible WHat kinda lemons are you eating? The lemons I know are sour, not bitter.
 
the internet has scarred me
 
Adam can I share the adorable GIF of you?
 
8:54 PM
I laughed too hard when 30Rock had a table of seniors and Jack walks in and calls it a Lemon Party.
 
I'm glad I took the time to scroll up when I sat back down
 
ahaha should have said sour; not bitter
 
Otherwise I couldn't do this...
 
oops, jack doesn't say it at all.. youtube.com/watch?v=v-bvHlb2Fe8
 
user image
5
 
8:55 PM
phew
code fixed.
 
next stop rlemon, the animated version of that
 
cache should work now
I can overlay text on any animated gifs
just tell me what you wanna see
 
build a good repertoire
 
Dave are you actually doing any work today, or just making comments to get stars?
 
mostly comments
I released the update and I'm doing pen an paper design for a meeting tomorrow morning
 
8:56 PM
LOL this comment of the youtube video! "Shiiiiiit man, laugh so hard I fell off my dinosaur"
@rlemon put a lemon in his mouth
 
Wow, that's pretty meta.
rlemon, I'd love to see this done with the spongebob gif lol
 
I second that
 
or wait till I get home and ping me with the gif image you wanna see
 
Commented on the gist lol
 
out...
 
9:06 PM
out of magic?
out of code?
out of characters?
 
out of memory
 
no that's carl
 
Out of time
 
also carl
 
I know ;)
Out of lifeforce
 
9:11 PM
it's funny because he's not really that old
just the oldest person that can tolerate us
 
Yep!
So, for all intensive purposes, he's old
 
Is it intensive purposes or intents and purposes? I don't know.
Kinda like, is it lactose intolerant or lack toes and tolerant?
 
irregardless of intensive purposes
 
Intents and purposes;
 
lack too sand toll erands
Intent i = new Intent(purpose, dopurpose.class);
 
9:17 PM
grammar is important yo
idk wut u tinkin
 
Intents and Promises;
 
I haz di gewd grmmr nd "sppling" (n stuf yo¿
 
Like the German Coast Guard " Whaz are you zinking about?"
 
9:36 PM
americans: explain
rand paul? idiot right?
 
libertarian running as a republican, thinks there should be almost no government. Good on some things bad on others
like he opposes the NSA bullshit but he also has a poor record on climate change and social issues
 
ahh got it
 
so there is that, in his favor
 
That's like the only thing I can think of but makes him better than any other republican candidate I've seen
 
He's the only Republican I am slightly in favor of because of it.
 
9:41 PM
better than another bush
 
yeah by far
 
is this other bush guy still running?
 
yea
 
ugh
 
I seriously hope he doesn't win
 
9:42 PM
what we need right now is a guy named jeb
 
stupid people don't like to feel stupid, that's why stupid people get votes, they are relate-able. "A guy you can have a beer with"
versus elitist smarty pants presidents
presidents should have to take standardized tests
 
lol
 
maybe then people wouldn't elect people with shit for brains
 
eh, I don't think they are stupid
 
W. bush was stupid
 
9:45 PM
nobody of those idiots is stupid
they just decided to use everything for evil
you can't make it that far by being plane stupid
 
You can with a rich daddy
and an oil company backing you
Cheney basically ran bush
 
true as well
 
there's some ridiculous number of Republicans running this year, and then Hillary and some socialist.
 
there's also a fiscal conservative democrat that no one's heard about
Hillary will probably get the nomination and the fragmentation of the republican party will choose some middle of the road shit candidate like Romney again
 
9:50 PM
> In 2006, George W. Bush attended a G8 summit meeting in Germany along with other world leaders. In the middle of the meeting he decided that Germany’s Chancellor, Angela Merkel, needed a back rub. He sauntered over to the German leader and started massaging her shoulders and neck. Merkel immediately hunched her shoulders, threw her arms up in the air and looked terribly uncomfortable. Bush strolled away and bloggers screamed sexual harassment.
wait what
 
oh god I couldn't make through that
 
you have to see the last one
 
lol
 
10:01 PM
> The thing I really enjoy about programming is just the fact that you really can tell the computer exactly what to do and it will do what you tell it and nothing more. -Linus Torvalds
 
should've named it linOS
 
See you tomorrow guys
 
later een
 
somehow I really appreciate that statement
that's exactly one of the things I like about programming as well ;-)
 
> A SQL injection is when you ask the waiter for a large pepperoni GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY with a side of fries.
4
 
10:09 PM
> I find people who think open-source is anti-capitalism to be kind of naive and slightly stupid.
That reminds me of Little Johnny Tables
 
@DaveS y'all make fun of canada, but the worst we've done in the last decade is have a crack-smoking mayor.
 
well I'm sure you've killed a bear or a moose as well
and exporting asbestos to third world countries
fucking evil geniuses
 
well, time to find some food...
bbl
 
later
 
wait a minute...the "side of fries" is the injection...who orders fries with pizza?
 
10:15 PM
could be a pepperoni burger
 
I could swear that the code I just typed in was already typed in 30 minutes ago
 
git stash pop
 
Haven't committed yet
 
10:33 PM
Dave sometimes you shock me with what you know about Canada haha. How do you know about our evil asbestos exports??
 
google "worst things that canada has done" and press I'm Feeling Lucky
It's a top 10 list so I'm surprised you haven't read it jlin.
 
Go play in traffic, Dave.
 
lol
 
10:56 PM
Oops I fell asleep
 

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