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8:00 PM
This is like watching the ball drop
 
> Nominations close momentarily.
 
@JasonC Whew...just in time
 
No 3, 2, or 1. :(
 
refresh refresh refresh!
 
just zeros :D
 
8:00 PM
primary time - LET'S COMMENCE TO VOTING!
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@Mooseman I see they fixed the potential "Nominations close just now." problems. ;)
 
Air
@Shog9 Intentional or unintentional ATHF reference?
 
@Shog9 Has Martijn been elected already?
 
...aaand Martijn already leads the pack with 1,000,000 votes
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Martijn got upvotes before nominations ended. Thats the support I guess.
 
8:01 PM
@Air wow, you caught that. Kudos? Condolences?
 
Air
@Shog9 Yeah, uh, my first apartment after moving out of my parents' house in college was... dank in more ways than one.
 
@Shog9 - Do downvotes count at the end of the primary?
 
I actually wish bjb made it to the primaries so I could see how people voted.
 
@TravisJ "count"?
 
-2 :( let's see what will happen
 
8:04 PM
@Shog9 - Yes, is it by net or by total? As in, will +20, -10 lose to +15, -4 ?
 
Are the candidates arranged randomly after each refresh?
 
@TravisJ Yes
@Mixcels Yes
 
@SecondRikudo Thanks
 
@MartijnPieters
ALL THE WAY! WOO!
 
Alright, I've voted. May the best candidates win. ;)
 
8:06 PM
they should been ordered
 
I am honestly stunned.
 
@AlexisKing I did that too
 
@Martijn 140? You're not allowed to be slacking...
 
@MartijnPieters Preemptive congratz :)
 
@MartijnPieters I think you undervalue your prominence on Stack Overflow, haha.
 
8:07 PM
Holy carp
 
Every candidate got either a +1 or -1 from me.
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@MartijnPieters - You have clearly ninja'd this election.
That is a lot of sock puppets.
 
Can someone set up followtheninja.io or something with a live-updating counter of Martijn's primary score?
 
I think for it to be a "ninja", nobody should have seen it coming
 
8:08 PM
Now where's that script that parsed the election page and gave a sorted output?
 
I don't think that's the case here :p
 
@meagar </facetious>
 
@Mooseman great lol I just gave my favorites an upvote
 
do the numbers not update in real time?
 
Will there be a graph to see the votes in a timeline?
@gunr2171 no
 
8:09 PM
: (
 
even after a refresh the data seems to be wrong
I'm checking this json: stackoverflow.com/posts/29486743/vote-counts and it doesn't make me happy yet
 
Nothing is set in stone for at least 24 hours when all of the world got to wake up and vote.
 
Two people downvoted Martijn's nomination. @Shog, can we autoban them?
 
lol
 
It's too bad the nomination comments aren't shown on the primaries page.
 
8:11 PM
(Except for @MartijnPieters who should have gotten a diamond as soon as he nominated anyway)
 
Now I have the strong feeling that I had to rewrite my nomination text^^
 
@AlexisKing Perhaps a userscript to put it in the top right corner of every site you visit?
@SecondRikudo Ask @bjb.
 
Hey @JeremyBanks: go adapt your userscript. gist.githubusercontent.com/jeremybanks/2913432/raw/…
 
@SecondRikudo Martijn clicks the "nominate yourself" link and is immediately presented with a video of Jeff Atwood saying "it's about time" from years ago.
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Q: Comments on moderator nomination statements should be visible in all stages of the election

Brad LarsonDuring the nomination phase, members of the community can comment on the nomination statements for each candidate. This can provide valuable information about how the community regards these candidates, as well as specific positive and negative points that go beyond the metrics displayed. There i...

 
8:12 PM
People are not taking the election seriously. Martijn has 2 downvotes.
 
@AlexisKing :D
 
For those of you who are already familiar with every letter of the candidates nomination speech: $('.post-text').hide()
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@MartijnPieters Things are looking good for you, also just casted my +1 for your nomination :)
 
@TravisJ quiet useful thx
 
@Oldskool I dunno man, those 5 downvotes look threatening.
Yes, they're up to 5 now!
Be afraid. Be very very afraid
 
8:16 PM
Who is this Martijn Pieters anyway?
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@jreuab flagged as offensive
 
@SecondRikudo I am shocked! Who are those rebels?!
 
@jreuab someone with 600+ sock accounts.
 
I see :P
 
8:17 PM
so guys I go to bed now good luck to all
 
@rekire sleep well
 
To sort results (purely for tracking your own progress):
$($('table:first > tbody > tr').detach().sort(function(a, b) { return ($(b).find('.vote-count-post').text() | 0) - ($(a).find('.vote-count-post').text() | 0) })).appendTo('table:first')
 
"I'm hichris123, a student who is not a pink gravatar in real life." That's quite reassuring.
 
@TravisJ Userscripted:
// ==UserScript==
// @name           Simplify Election Pages
// @namespace      github.com/AstroCB
// @author         Cameron Bernhardt (AstroCB)
// @description  Hides post text on the election page for those who already know where their votes are going
// @version        1.0
// @include        stackoverflow.com/election
// ==/UserScript==
var posts = document.getElementsByClassName("post-text");
for (var i = 0; i < posts.length; i++) {
	posts[i].hidden = "true";
}
Pure JS just for @bjb.
 
@jreuab LOL, thank god. That would've resulted in awkward election propaganda.
 
8:20 PM
4
Q: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

Grace NoteIn connection with the moderator elections, we are holding a Q&A thread for the candidates. Questions collected from an earlier thread have been compiled into this one, which shall now serve as the space for the candidates to provide their answers. Not every question was compiled - however, we're...

 
@AstroCB [].forEach.call(document.getElementsByClassName, function(el) { el.hidden = true; });
 
figures the feeds would have that
 
That works too.
 
is there a web page which summarizes the primaries results .. like maybe a leaderboard
 
We don't have to answer the questionnaire unless we make it past primaries, right?
 
8:22 PM
[].forEach.call(document.querySelectorAll('.post-text'),function(el){ el.style.display = 'none'; })
 
So where's the ajax on the primary page? I wanna see the votes spin faster than a slot machine. :)
 
@Mysticial There isn't any; at least not used by the page.
 
@Mysticial - You can only fetch vote counts once per second.
 
@AlexisKing StackOverflow doesn't allow cross-origin framing/cors -_-
 
Guys, quick question: Will we be allowed only one vote in the election, or will we be able to vote/downvote whoever we want, as in the current primary voting?
 
8:24 PM
@TylerH You can do it server-side. ;)
 
@TravisJ Super :)
 
To sort and hide:
 
@jreuab I'm not sure though, Anna made me think: what if I actually am pink & my perception of colors is wrong? What if I am a gravatar? Is my whole life a lie?!
 
// ==UserScript==
// @name           Simplify Election Pages
// @namespace      github.com/AstroCB
// @author         Cameron Bernhardt (AstroCB)
// @description    Hides post text on the election page for those who already know where their votes are going
// @version        1.0
// @include        stackoverflow.com/election
// ==/UserScript==
var sortAndHide = function() {
    $(".post-text").hide();
    $($('table:first > tbody > tr').detach().sort(function(a, b) {
        return ($(b).find('.vote-count-post').text() | 0) - ($(
 
@AlexisKing but that's not my side D-:
 
8:25 PM
@TylerH I mean you can set up a server and poll SE's servers.
 
No attribution to meager for the sort?
 
If a candidate's net total votes is negative, does it display zero?
 
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Q: In StackOverflow elections, should the vote counts be hidden until after the election?

BlowskiIn the current Stackoverflow election, I noticed that the vote counts are displayed alongside each candidate. I wonder whether this leads to a 'hive mind' where people who already have a lot of votes attract more votes. In real life elections, reporters are often banned from reporting poll count...

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Q: Are there any people who identify as female running in the moderator election?

caseyr547The moderator election is currently going on. I voted for the 40/40 candidates and the remainder of my votes I would like to go to affirmative action. Are there any people who identify as female running in the moderator election?

 
@Mixcels - Yes, unless you downvote, in which case it will show -1
 
@AlexisKing yeah, who has time to set up servers for things?! I could spend that time doing productive things, like eating York peppermints and reading xkcd
 
8:27 PM
Questions are up
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A: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

meagar A question is asked and receives some very good answers. The asker then flags this question and asks for it to be deleted because having it up will cause them trouble at work or school. Do you delete the question? I would begin by advising the user that, once they have contributed content, t...

 
@AstroCB Why is true in a string?
It's a boolean property.
 
// ==UserScript==
// @name           Simplify Election Pages
// @namespace      github.com/AstroCB
// @description    Hides post text on the election page for those who already know where their votes are going
// @version        1.0
// @include        stackoverflow.com/election
// ==/UserScript==
var sortAndHide = function() {
    $(".post-text").hide();
    $($('table:first > tbody > tr').detach().sort(function(a, b) {
        return ($(b).find('.vote-count-post').text() | 0) - ($(
 
@bluefeet a lack of diversity in moderation would show bigotry in the community and keep minorities and females from participating — caseyr547 21 secs ago
 
@TravisJ Forgot to remove authorship.
@bjb568 Works the same either way.
 
That's because it's truthy.
But it's still ugly.
 
8:30 PM
@bluefeet glass ceiling — caseyr547 14 secs ago
@bjb568 Pure JS is pure JS.
 
yay
 
It's an attribute, too, so it makes more sense syntactically.
Even if it's technically the wrong type.
 
You're not setting an attribute, you're setting a property in the element interface which happens to correspond to an attribute.
 
> happens to correspond to an attribute.
 
wat
who closed that question -_-
I was two seconds away from posting an answer
 
8:37 PM
@hichris123 Gravatars are creatures from hell (e.g. wordpress)
 
@TylerH the female one?
 
yes
 
Seems like a legit question.
 
because we don't want to fall into full rage-mode
 
well it deserves an answer I feel like
the comments should be cleaned up though
 
8:38 PM
rather than a shouting match in the comments?
 
@jreuab My profile pic is a gravatar. Maybe I shouldn't say that... :P
 
well, it has 2 reopen votes
 
@gunr2171 It's a legitimate question even if the notion is misguided
 
is that possible to parse the vote count through BS?
 
And it's not off-topic
despite the close reason
 
8:47 PM
@meagar has been holding the #2 spot for quite some time
 
I'm as surprised as anybody :p
 
@meagar I'm not I voted for you last year ;) with my second place vote. #1 went to Bohemian, surprising no one.
 
Also soliciting questions, comments and concerns: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/290096/…
Yeah, he was a shoo-in
 
Apr 8 at 22:17, by yellowantphil
"shoo-in" <-- this has been a public service announcement
 
Fiiiixed.
 
8:49 PM
@hichris123 Ehh... too much work to do right now. :P Maybe later, but hopefully somebody else will have something by then.
 
@JeremyBanks I'm considering asking a broader question with a self-answer
just so that the topic is covered
 
I'd be interested in seeing that. I wonder if it might be better to wait a bit before posting it, though, for fear of it being swept down in the current post's wave of votes.
I don't have an entire clear and strong opinion about the subject, but it deserves better than -30.
 
Martijn is now at 1,430. Wow.
 
Not a surprise.
 
The weirdest part is the fact that he has 30 downvotes.
 
8:53 PM
@JeremyBanks yeah, well the question has three re-open votes. if it gets two more I'll quickly post the answer I had written up
 
Who are these people?
 
@AlexisKing probably people who voted for others
 
@AlexisKing Heretics.
 
One upvote, 29 downvotes.
 
Every election have that one candidate whose score > sum of all other candidates scores.
 
8:53 PM
downvotes count as an extra vote
 
@Doorknob Shall we burn them at the stake?
 
+1 for A and -1 for B puts A two votes ahead of B
even though the votes were cast by the same person
 
@SecondRikudo I dunno, a lot of people (including you) are holding their own at around half to 60% of his votes.
 
just one major flaw in the SO voting mechanism
 
@durron597 Wait for it :P
 
8:54 PM
@TylerH Why is that a flaw?
 
@Doorknob why do people get multiple votes in an election? They should get one vote per spot
on that note, why can people downvote in an election anyway?
 
@TylerH They... do.
 
There are three spots open, users should get three upvotes
 
@TylerH They get one vote per spot in the election, not in the primaries.
 
8:55 PM
@Doorknob I can vote up or down on all candidates, not just three
 
@TylerH In the final election you'll be able to choose three only.
 
@TylerH This is the primaries.
 
We're in the primaries, where we're just whittling down the field to 10 candidates.
 
Not the actual election phase.
 
that's fine, but primaries shouldn't be any different
 
8:56 PM
... if primaries weren't any different, what would be the point of... having primaries?
 
why add the complexity of limitless votes and downvotes?
 
-2
Q: How do I decide on who to vote for in elections?

MichaelGGI see that I'm asked to participate in elections. I've not really much interest in reviewing the behavior of each candidate and looking to see if they behave the way I like or not. Like a lot of complainers on this site, I'm sorta annoyed with the overzealous closing and whatnot. How can I vote...

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Q: How Many Moderator Candidates Are There? 32 or 30?

j08691We're in the primary phase of the moderator elections on SO, and I'm a little confused as to how many candidates we have. According to the election page, there are 32, but it only displays 30: It also says 32 above the list, however when I counted there were only 30. So which is it? I know ...

 
@TylerH It's much harder to choose 3 from 30, than 3 from 10.
 
@Doorknob what's the point of having three rounds instead of two? to whittle things down
 
hichris123, why do you downvoting so strongly. Your number of downvotes is much higher than upvotes. It sounds that you demotivating people when they ask the questions, doesn't you?
 
8:57 PM
I don't agree with the system in many ways, that way included, this is just the matter at hand right now
 
Jeff Atwood on March 08, 2009

Paul Graham’s Hacker News is a great website to find interesting programming links and sane discussion. The site reflects a sort of post-Reddit sensibility; the design of HN was directly intended to address the shortcomings of programming.reddit.com from someone very much on the inside (reddit was a Paul Graham Y Combinator startup). As such we studied it closely when building Stack Overflow.

It is true that discussion on Hacker News is more serious and less incendiary than the wild-west anything goes of programming.reddit.com. I’ve seen this firsthand, on blog articles I’ve w …

^ found the article I was looking for
 
@meagar "everything on MDN " did you mean "everything on MSDN"?
 
No
I'm a web developer :p
 
@DariusMiliauskas Downvoting is about quality control. Not motivating people. Downvoting a lot of bad posts means you care about the quality of the site and you're willing to take the time to clean it up.
 
@meagar I'm an application developer :)
 
8:58 PM
I used to be
 
  1. Martijn Pieters      [ 1545]
  2. meagar               [  875]
  3. Jon Clements         [  770]
  4. Second Rikudo        [  697]
  5. Matt                 [  593]
  6. deceze               [  504]
  7. Undo                 [  388]
  8. Jason C              [  305]
  9. Raghav Sood          [  234]
 10. Paresh Mayani        [  226]
 11. Ed Cottrell          [  217]
 12. slugster             [  165]
 13. Andy                 [  149]
 14. Jeremy Banks         [  135]
 15. Thomas Owens         [  125]
 
@Doorknob I don't think downvotes are valuable pieces of information for elections
 
Until I found that Ruby on Rails pays better :|
 
it's not about the merits of content that's posted. You can't post a "wrong" candidacy bio
 
@meagar Eh. I do ok :)
 
8:58 PM
that's not how elections work
 
In actuality I was almost always a web developer professionally, but I moved off of a microsoft stack to PHP and then to Rails
 
you vote for the candidate(s) you would most like to see in the position(s)
 
@TylerH So what do you do if you strongly disagree with someone being elected moderator?
 
three positions, three votes, still whittles down the pool each round
 
1. 1562 Martijn Pieters
2. 895 meagar
3. 778 Jon Clements
4. 703 Second Rikudo
5. 594 Matt
6. 513 deceze
7. 391 Undo
8. 307 Jason C
9. 242 Raghav Sood
10. 231 Paresh Mayani
11. 217 Ed Cottrell
12. 167 slugster
13. 149 Andy
14. 139 Jeremy Banks
15. 129 Thomas Owens
16. 112 Qantas 94 Heavy
17. 104 vcsjones
18. 53 Sergey K.
19. 46 hichris123
20. 46 Moshe
21. 36 rekire
22. 33 codeMagic
23. 30 Michael Irigoyen
24. 14 AstroCB
25. 0 Idan Adar
26. 0 Unihedro
27. 0 Mooseman
28. 0 Amit Joki
29. 0 Shree
30. 0 Hemang
 
8:59 PM
@Doorknob deal with it, just like I do with the current system
 
@Doorknob (read: what if bjb were nominated?)
 
@hichris123 Oops. >_>
 
or, if I feel they've violated a rule or guideline, raise a flag
but not liking someone is not good grounds for not getting them elected
 
@TylerH I never said "what if you don't like someone"
 
one of the reasons I think we should hide usernames and avatars during the nomination and primary rounds, at least
 
9:00 PM
@AlexisKing That's not funny. That's just annoying. Please follow the "be nice" policy.
 
@Doorknob OK. Either way, the response is "vote for someone else"
 
@JeremyBanks lol
 
@TylerH hiding the names/avatars is kind of ridiculous
 
Glad to see @JonC in the top three, at least for now.
 
@TylerH Are you telling me that you'd be perfectly fine if elections worked by randomly selecting a >3k user? Because if you don't explicitly disagree with anyone being elected, that's what you're implying.
 
9:01 PM
Anybody can write anything they want
 
@meagar it's not just a personal opinion reason; it helps protect against mob mentality with voting
 
Who would want to vote on nominations disassociated from a user's actions?
 
@JeremyBanks document.write hissssss
 
The worst user of all might win the election because they wrote the best nomination.
 
@TylerH mob mentality is the whole point of the primary phase. Elections in general, really.
 
9:02 PM
@Shog9 that's not what mob mentality means
 
Kind of you to say - thanks @Jeremy :)
 
@Shog9 Not really.
 
@meagar I would prefer the moderation scores and info be included as well
 
Could we please stop flagging things?
 
We hide the negative scores on elections for a reason
 
9:04 PM
@TylerH That's still not enough. If somebody leaves a ton of offensive comments and is constantly rude to people, but still clears a lot of flags, they're not a good moderator.
 
And when you go vote for a state/country elections you have no official information regarding how any of the candidates are doing (which is more similar to the third phase of out elections)
 
@TylerH what do you think it means?
 
Flag trolls turned to star trolling now?
 
@Shog9 mob mentality is when a group votes like a single unit because that's what everyone else is doing. Which is definitely not the point of any election
 
@TylerH I'm not voting for Martijn because everyone else is, I'm voting for him because he's a super valuable contributor on both the main site and (especially) on Meta.
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9:05 PM
the point of an election is for individuals to vote how they feel individually, and when they're all tallied up, the largest group wins (or the win is divided between the top several groups, depending on your election system)
 
Honestly I think it's a little rude to assume that most of the people voting for him are doing so for any other reason.
 
@durron597 Have you ever visited SO Main?
 
@TylerH that's not what's happening here either.
 
@TylerH What do you think?
 
@Shog9 It what (ideally) happens at the third phase though
You don't know who the others voted to, your vote is your own
 
9:08 PM
@TylerH I'm sorry that there are no parties to vote for, SO isn't a parliamentary democracy
 
(Unless of course, you go and ask about it in chat and vote according to that, but relatively few do that)
 
Folks are more likely to vote for already-popular candidates, and showing the scores during the primary phase definitely feeds into that behavior. But there's no limit to how many candidates you can vote for, and folks definitely vote freely across multiple candidates.
 
@durron597 A bit of a rhetorical question, I admit, but still a serious one. Hopefully you're aware that most users of Stack Overflow are not involved in the community. They come in, ask questions, sometimes voting on questions about similar problems they have. There's a big problem with bad questions getting upvoted because someone has the same question. That carries over to the elections when the website sends you a notification to go vote. (1/2)
@durron597 Sure, the number of uninvolved or uninterested use drops dramatically due to the requirements for voting, but we've already seen instances this election where users are annoyed about being prompted to vote on something they aren't interested in
 
@TylerH So you click on a red number and then you go do something else. Big deal
 
Hiding the names / stats wouldn't change that, but it would reduce the number of folks voting for people they recognize. Which would be a real shame; I think there's a lot of value in having recognizable moderators, as long as they're recognized for good reasons.
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9:10 PM
@durron597 if you don't care about maintaining fair elections then I'm not sure why you're in this conversation
 
In the last phase, you don't get pile-on votes; the goal is no longer to weed out candidates that don't have the support of the mob, it's to pick the most popular out of a small group.
 
@TylerH Why isn't the election fair? Why do the facts that you describe make the election unfair?
 
@Shog9 small here meaning the 30 whittled down from 31?
 
@TylerH uh, no. Small is 10 whittled down from 30.
@TylerH sorry, I wrote primary twice for some reason.
 
@Shog9 Ah
 
9:12 PM
@Shog9 Probably because you've had a stressful week :-/
 
I don't know about others. But the regulation is only asking for 30 mins per day for mods. I voted for a few candidates by looking at their attitudes; not statistics unless it's a real low-rep user like myself. Also, already high-vote candidates catch my attention than others. I don't know on what grounds top users got voted over 1000 times, while other equally good candidates only a couple of hundred votes.
 
@durron597 oh, it's only started. The real fun comes later...
just glad the SO election didn't pick up a last-minute nominee this time around.
 
@Shog9 I'm just glad the SO elections didn't pick up a very particular last-minute nominee this time around.
 
That was spooky guys :)
 
@durron597 I'm not interested in responding to fallacies, inferences, or deflections. Any fair system should welcome regular re-evaluation, whether it's been fair in the past or not. That's the only way to keep a system fair.
 
9:14 PM
@SecondRikudo don't worry, I can't nominate anymore - not enough flags.
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@Shog9 at any rate, I feel much less strongly about hiding names/avatars than I do about removing downvotes/unlimited votes for the primary phase
 
@TylerH I'm not arguing with your right to have a different opinion than me nor to dislike the current system. I welcome your differing opinions. I just happen to disagree with them.
 
@Shog9 I'm actually more afraid of a certain Master Lord of the Internet, whose site is surprisingly down.
 
@durron597 I don't see how that's related to what I said
 
@TylerH just remember, the primary phase is noisy fast and loose by design. The accurate voting happens later.
 
9:16 PM
I didn't say anything about opinions
@Shog9 Why the extra noise (downvotes) though?
 
@TylerH You are re-evaluting the system. I disagree with your re-evaluation.
 
@TylerH catharsis
 
Your evaluation of the system is an opinion, as is mine.
 
don't tell me you didn't feel better after downvoting one or two of these candidates...
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@Shog9 To be perfectly honest, I didn't.
 
9:17 PM
@Shog9 I don't think the point is to feel better
 
Rush may assert that not choosing still counts as a choice... but they're Canadian; they know nothing about proper elections.
 
which I didn't
 
I downvoted, don't get me wrong, but just because I don't feel confident that they'll be good moderators.
 
I don't get that reference
@durron597 still, that's not related to the message you replied to
 
dammit, where's Air when you need him
 
9:18 PM
@TylerH @Shog9 I feel like the reason is closer to technical issues
 
I am happy to admit that I made a conscious choice to upvote some of the candidates, downvote others, and not vote on the rest. I didn't abstain on those candidates out of laziness
 
@SecondRikudo what reason?
 
Nomination posts are strinkingly similar to answers on a question
Could there be a shared infrastructure that's a pain to rip out there?
 
@SecondRikudo no
 
@Shog9 OK :D
 
9:19 PM
Trivia: before the current election system, we ran one or two "election primaries" on Meta. Dig 'em up if you're interested...
 
For me, a nonvote means "I think you'll probably do ok, I don't think you'll be as good as those I upvoted, but I don't think you'll do a bad job". Whereas a downvote means "I don't think you'll do a good job".
 
@Mysticial hmm, but if the downvoting overcomes upvoting it shows that it is not only content quality. I mean instead of downvoting it should be editing if you care about the quality. Downvoting is the easiest way to demotivate some users to participate. It should be the limits not to show too low standards as well as not too high standards.
 
Personally, I don't vote when I haven't formed an opinion yet & want to read the candidate's answers on meta. Got a half-dozen or so I'm waiting on for that.
 
Someone needs to generate reports that show how a candidate's score compares with the election cut-off. i.e. the person in 10th would have 100%, the person above them may have something like 130%, etc.
 
@Shog9 vOv one can always change one's vote at any time
 
9:21 PM
@DariusMiliauskas you're thinking of a very isolated post
 
So I don't mind voting on everyone now, and changing if needed.
 
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Q: StackExchange Election: Primary counter

pokeI want to keep an eye on the votes of the ongoing election, but the unsortedness of the list during the primary election phase makes it hard to keep track of anything. So I wrote a quick script that goes through them all and puts a short overview list at the top, sorted by the current vote count....

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@SecondRikudo I don't hesitate to change my opinion - I refrain from voting when I haven't formed one yet.
 
^ I just updated this to work with this election, in case you’re interested
 
@DariusMiliauskas That only works when you have a high enough "avid users" to "bad questions" ratio. The problem right now is that "bad questions" outnumber "avid users" at least a 100 to one. It simply isn't possible to hand hold every single person. So the only way to move forward is to focus the attention to those that are borderline and is worth putting in the effort. The rest can simply be ignored and auto-deleted after closure or enough downvotes.
 
9:23 PM
This conversation reminds me of this MSE post I made many moons ago - Is voting up supposed to be so subjective. These things work this way by design. You have no idea how much thought SE has put into how these things work.
For example, they are using MeekSTV as their vote resolution algorithm. Do you think they picked that among many others by throwing darts at a dartboard?
 
So @Shog9 will users be able to vote against 7 of the 10 finalists in the last phase?
 
@TylerH you only get one vote in the actual election
one candidate with two backups
 
@durron597 that's not really a logical thing to say. You have no idea how aware Mysticial is of the amount of thought SE has put into how things work.
 
@DariusMiliauskas I've cast ~2000 downvotes, but only 376 of those posts are non-deleted. I do downvote a lot, yes, but I downvote poor quality posts, which can be seen by 80% of the posts I downvote being deleted.
 
@Shog9 Even though there are three spots open?
 
9:26 PM
@TylerH correct.
 
@TylerH Oh, I'm sorry, did I forget to hit the reply button for you?
 
So the 2nd and 3rd spots are just for the runners-up?
 
@TylerH in a sense, yes
 
@durron597 There's a rule about not being rude
 
Sometimes, we call up more runners-up
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Q: How are moderator election votes counted, in plain English?

PopsThe election pages' sidebars state that Stack Exchange elections use the Meek STV vote-counting method: After m days, the final voting results will be freely downloadable from this page forever, and we will calculate the n winners using OpenSTV with the Meek STV method. How does that work? ...

Actually... I should pin a few things here.
 
9:28 PM
@Shog9 We need more Plain English in politics
 
there. Those oughta answer some questions.
 
@TylerH Basically, your vote goes to the first candidate.
 
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Q: How does Single Transferable Vote work?

JezI've heard that some elections use single transferable vote. What is this and how does it work? How does it differ from a standard majority vote election?

 
If your first choice gets more than they need, the part of the vote that they don't need, goes to your second choice
 
9:31 PM
If Martijn got twice the votes he needed to win, half of your vote (as someone who voted for Martijn first) goes to him, and half to your second choice.
 
@SecondRikudo Which is what is most likely going to happen by the look of the metrics so far
 
@b.enoit.be Nope.
He's likely to get 4-5 times the number of voted needed to win :D
 
Shouldn't he be elected at the end of the primary to have a fair count afterwards ? :p
 
@b.enoit.be He should have been elected the very minute he nominated, IMO.
 
@SecondRikudo Yup, I'm not active for that long here. But I already cannot count the number of times I've seen something helpful being written by him.
 
9:47 PM
If anyone wants a quick score breakdown: jsfiddle.net/AstroCB/5frgy9nx
 
@AstroCB Would you resort this candidates array by vote count, please ? :)
(too late to code for me, my brain is in stand by mode already)
 
@b.enoit.be Done.
 
@MartijnPieters - Any chance on seeing your responses to the questionnaire before you are off for the day?
 

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