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11:02 AM
The supplier said those people who did roof were skilled ... lol, of course the supplier would say that - because even though the tradies did a shitty job, it would still be less work on the supplier's part.
 
wtf
how can primitive people like this still exist today
what kind of logic can make you think that body parts from albino people bring luck :\
(I discovered /r/TIL/)
 
WTF
> syntax error: 'throw'
In... <array>, line 48.
WTF Visual Studio. WTF.
_NOEXCEPT_OP(_NOEXCEPT_OP(_Swap_adl(_Elems[0], _Elems[0])))
I don't even.
 
++WTF
 
isn't that an intellisense error?
I always disable intellisense errors in VS
 
I don't IntelliSense.
 
11:07 AM
@AlexM. because of ignorant comments like that?
 
I disable it altogether.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't it some kind of a type requirement?
 
I had to star this
truthfully true
 
I don't understand: On youtube, everyone is ripping everyone apart in the comment section about religion and shit, whereas on pornhub, everyone is friendly and on-topic
 
Ok, VS2015 CTP is unusable because the compiler can't use the stdlib?
That sounds wrong after 6 CTPs.
 
11:10 AM
@Columbo a fap a day keeps anger away?
 
If I change the toolset to VS2013's it works.
@ThePhD you're using VS2015CTP, right?
 
void makeEveryoneMad() { std::swap (pornHub_contents, gitHub_contents); }
 
@MarcoA. lol
"I keep pushing but nothing happens?"
3
 
lol
 
std::swap(std::put_money, std::get_money)
@thecoshman Can we see those calendar entries already?
 
11:16 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you are talking about a the compiler team who once released a beta compiler that couldn't handle int main(){}
 
@Cicada Indeed :(
@Columbo No.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit How d'ya know
You're not cosh, are you
 
@Columbo Because if you could then you wouldn't be asking him to make them visible.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Perhaps I don't yet know how
Or are you implying that he would star a link to it
 
11:19 AM
@LightningRacisinObrit You can't just end a conversation like that
You can do that with your gf, but not with me
 
> Yes, it’s hard to do type safety without a garbage collector.
 
Btw, I set up a Slack channel.
 
@Columbo I certainly can.
 
If anyone is going to the Unconference that I didn't invite to the channel, ping me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thought you guys already had one
 
11:20 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes here.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I'm not sure how to explain, but not all SE sites use the same auth token.
 
Also, FFS, please don't invite the whole lounge to the channel this time.
 
Elitist
 
When even Loungers don't want Loungers spoiling the party...
 
11:21 AM
So, I have survived the Unconscious Bias Training session.
It was not too bad.
It was not PC training as I have feared.
It was more open discussion thing about biases.
 
user1804599
yummy, a melon
 
Waste of time but not too bad.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit It's more about people having posted details like phone numbers and stuff there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 555-LOUNGE
@wilx Next: Unconference Bastards training session
 
What is the 555 prefix?
 
11:23 AM
@wilx Sounds like they taught you about PC so effectively that you don't even realise it was about PC
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Hehe. I am not going. I do have neither the time nor the money.
 
@Columbo I need an e-mail address. If you don't want to post it here, you can e-mail me (my e-mail address is strewn all over the source code here: github.com/rmartinho/nonius)
 
@LightningRacisinObrit lol
 
@wilx A reference to TV programmes from the United Shits
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes columbo@gmx-topmail.de
 
11:24 AM
The conventional US fake area code on-screen is 555
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Are you going to the Unconference?
 
like how they use IPs like 260.423.51.52
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm unnot unsure
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Ah. I thought it was some sort of mandatory local call prefix.
 
@wilx No, that's "aight homie whattup nigga"
 
@Epitouille Then arrange for the mapped functions to have the same type! Example Live On Coliru Honestly I don't see what code you're trying to reduce (as the implementation will /still/ list all the cases, but with much more complexity to "paper over" the differences. — sehe 11 secs ago
People struggle with template/runtime barrier so badly
 
It's the fata morgana of having everything generic at no cost, I suppose
 
@Columbo it's a Google calendar
 
@Cicada Rock hard!
 
Unconference 2.0: Ping thecosh with your stay dates for general planning. Ping robot for Slack access.
11
 
9news.com.au/world/2015/04/09/10/46/… That's quite heart breaking, reading about the unfortunate fate of the main pilot
 
11:30 AM
can't believe you guys are organising this so far in advance
it's still three months away or something
 
@LightningRacisinObrit No, two
 
> George Gregory Plitt, Jr. (November 3, 1977 – January 17, 2015) was an American fitness model and actor. [...] After examining the video, police reportedly told TMZ Plitt was standing on the tracks, and tried to outrace the train when it approached, to prove the efficiency of an energy drink for a commercial. He was shortly after knocked off the tracks and out of frame.
wat
 
@LightningRacisinObrit june 13th iirc
 
11:31 AM
@AlexM. erm, double-check, you didn't call albinos "primitive people" there, right ?!?!
 
If Jerry was to attend the unconference, we would have Tom & Jerry
How tragic this is not happening
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ping pong do I have Slack access? :D
 
@sehe I was on about the belief that body parts from humans influence your luck
 
@jalf you joined!
 
> on-topic
 
11:32 AM
I dunno, it doesn't compute in my brain
 
@Columbo I did?
 
@Youssef: This "everything has to be a member function" myth just won't die, will it? There is nothing wrong with free functions and, in many circumstances, they increase encapsulation. — Lightning Racis in Obrit 44 secs ago
@Columbo It's really not
 
@jalf jalf 1:19 PM joined #unconference2 by invitation from @rmf, along with [..] @columbo
@LightningRacisinObrit How long does it take to get from Nottingham to London by train?
 
good xkcd today
 
I don't get my luck, I always lose big !risky bets but never get out completely because then I always win risky bets enough to keep myself going
 
11:34 AM
@Columbo two months
inb4 repost
 
Xeo
it's always a repost, cuz of feeds
 
27 secs ago, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
inb4 repost
(repost)
 
@LightningRacisinObrit If I rearrange the letters I get "won tho smt"
 
@Columbo That sounds like a fun game (get a job)
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I'm 17 I don't get any job offers except from that fat guy in front of Burger King that recruits cheap teen workers
 
11:40 AM
sauce, via sauce (top comment) (election page)
 
> In any event, I heeded David’s advice to not let a pending bar interrupt my workflow. The genius of the concept is that you can move right along and get back to a pending bar later; your unrecognized ink strokes will be saved, and even printed (more on that in a bit).
interesting
 
@LightningRacisinObrit wrong link?
oh you meant comments to the answer
 
I hear the exclamation marks are on sale. I'll have 300 on my debit card, please — sehe 6 secs ago
 
Yes I understand!!! You are right! Now I will correct all!!! ... I have written a good fake!!! :) — Sergio Formiggini 41 mins ago
I guess that's what makes people abroad see every Italian as loud and/or dramatic
 
11:45 AM
@Xeo You're attending the unconference? I thought you live in Italy or sth.?
 
@AndyProwl This is usually what happens. People see "loud and dramatic" as "loud and/or dramatic"
 
Xeo
I live in Germany.
 
@Xeo I forgot.
 
Xeo
(I think I told you that a while ago too?)
 
@Xeo Yeah, I'm forgetful, sorry.
Mar 13 at 10:31, by Xeo
@Puppy for an hour usually, here in Germany
 
11:46 AM
@Columbo You remember the dark corners of the C++ Standard but you forget where Loungers are from? Get your priorities straight!
:P
 
What was that again, about there not being dubious mod candidates this time around?
 
@AndyProwl The darkness of corners is unspecified.
:P
 
Woah new profile style shows up on Meta.SE for me!!
 
¬_¬ dealing with java is sadistic
 
no I'm sure he meant 'mode'
 
11:48 AM
I know that Bartek is polish and Cat is too
 
what's a mode candidate?
 
@LightningRacisinObrit :D
@AndyProwl You fell for it ? O.o
 
@sehe I fall for literally everything
Intuition fails me so often that common sense is hard for me
 
Thanks for the hint though. I was just in time to edit
 
No problem
 
11:57 AM
@sehe damn most of the candidates in this election are shit
 
lol half of the candidates are meta (rep) hoes :x
 
Apr 7 at 0:25, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
Hmm fairly uncontroversial SO election this year. No Alf? No Vlad? H2CO3 not making a return? Pssh.
"noncontroversial" maybe
 
what happens with the current mods?
 
Cheers, BBC.
@chmod711telkitty Nothing. We lose some by attrition occasionally, and needs increase as the population grows, so they open up X mod positions in each election accordingly.
Existing mods are not replaced.
I don't get why anyone would want to be an SO mod.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit didn't say there was controversy, just a lot of crap candidates
 
12:04 PM
The only thing worse would be being an American!
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@Mgetz I didn't claim that you did!
 
@LightningRacisinObrit it's not that bad
 
@LightningRacisinObrit what about american SO mods?
 
@chmod711telkitty They're fucked.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Do they get paid?
 
12:09 PM
@khajvah To be fucked? I certainly hope so..
@khajvah (no)
 
@khajvah Yes. Lightness sends a check cheque to each of them every month to show appreciation
 
kind, kind lightness
 
cheque*
@barasiddiq, if you are learning C++ today you are not using the STL, you are using the C++ Standard Library, which includes lots of templates, but it is not "the STL", see the question linked above. — Jonathan Wakely 2 hours ago
fuck yeah Jonathan Wakely
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Thanks
 
@khajvah Oo ... you said "Do they get paid?" not " Do they get laid?"
 
12:13 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit next step for your nickname: "enlightning racism in obit" (thefreedictionary.com/obit)
 
user1804599
Yummy, a tomato and a melon.
 
@jalf Yep. I added everyone I was sure was joining and that already had an account.
 
12:15 PM
Why NSFW?
 
@LightningRacisinObrit But if there were no Americans, then there would not be this site and you & I would not have met online!
 
cos i'm funny
 
what a tragedy
 
@chmod711telkitty Yeah, fuck 'em, right?
 
okay
 
user3010322
12:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes 24/7, yeah.
 
@ThePhD How come? It doesn't seem to like the standard library.
 
user3010322
Which bits?
 
@ThePhD even in your dreams? I admire your dedication ...
 
All over the place.
 
user3010322
Well, I've got sol, nonius, and Furrovine all compiling on the CTP, and I'm using DLib with it too.
 
12:22 PM
Full error log. Note how there's not a single mention of any code outside the stdlib.
 
user1804599
I can't get Vim keymaps to work. :\
 
user1804599
I do set kmp=dyalog but nothing happens.
 
o.O
 
@rightfold Does :version have +keymap?
 
user1804599
Yup.
 
user1804599
12:24 PM
Maybe I need some weird key combination though; the keymap in question is undocumented. :P
 
user1804599
And its source is quite obscure.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's.... really bizarre. I'm inclined to think something went nuts, because I'm using pair/array/functional and I don't get any of those errors...
 
@rightfold Yeah. Vim source is pretty bad
 
user3010322
There's one of those "you may have introduced a brace somewhere" errors at the very bottom of the error log...
 
I think it's probably safe to say that even Microsoft did not ship a C++ toolchain in which the standard library simply doesn't work at all
 
user3010322
12:26 PM
But it's tracing it back to the inside of <utility>
 
I assume you are editing the right place in vimrc
 
@ThePhD There's never any of my code in the error messages.
 
> error C2059: syntax error: 'throw'
lol
 
@LightningRacisinObrit It's a CTP, but come on.
 
you got exceptions turned off or summat
 
user3010322
12:27 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit Yeah the whole thing's a messy explosion. Might be that some define or feature triggered some kind of massive snowball effect, but I can't figure out why.
 
Also WTF I already see a bogus warning in that mess.
> warning C4346: 'std::is_nothrow_move_assignable<_Ty>::value': dependent name is not a type
Fuck off. Of course it's not a type. It's used in a && expression.
 
I suppose my co-worker is a bit angry today. He had to call customer service to send back a router, he came back from the phone call saying "I sued three people"
that's a good trend
 
in a what
did you just say "&& expression" as short for "rvalue expression"?
 
user1804599
The keymap does ln<buffer>`w ⍵.
 
user1804599
Which funnily does work if I just type it in as a command directly.
 
12:30 PM
wtf happened to rightfold
 
@LightningRacisinObrit No, no, I meant it as the operator.
 
can I see include/tuple plz
promise I won't tell and get you sued
 
All of it?
	_Myt& operator=(_Myt&& _Right)
		_NOEXCEPT_OP(is_nothrow_move_assignable<_This>::value
			&& is_nothrow_move_assignable<_Mybase>::value)
		{	// assign by moving
		_Myfirst = _STD forward<_This>(_Right._Myfirst._Val);
		(_Mybase&)*this = _STD forward<_Mybase>(_Right._Get_rest());
		return (*this);
		}
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, the bracket error goes back to a macro _STD_BEGIN, which is supposed to be matched by _STD_END. As it stands, the CTP's <utility> in my install is 553 lines and is compiling fine, even when I instantiate a std::pair<int*, int*>, so I'm not sure why it's choking so hard on you.
 
This is the place where that warning pops up.
 
12:32 PM
looks to me like noexcept is broken
all the errors relate to it in some way
so I'll ask again
do you have exceptions turned off or summat
 
rekt
rip robot
 
start commenting things out to see where exactly it breaks
 
he was too young
 
your seconde example is that I want :) thanks ! (post as answer if you want) — Epitouille 47 secs ago
Gosh. So misguided. I'm not tainting my answer with a bad idea.
 
12:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wasn't following, where was that code taken from? a STL header?
 
@rightfold basic debugging skills, mate; :verbose ln `w (or whatever you're tryring to have mapped)
 
Whatever happened to that tab's title.
 
Xeo
lol
 
user3010322
o.0
 
12:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes hiding in shame
 
Is it possible that due to some unbalanced closed brace or something you end up including that stuff in an extern "C" block, and the compiler behaves differently?
 
I don't even know which file to start looking in.
 
or do those errors pop up even in a simple program that includes <tuple>?
 
Also, is it your code? Did it start happening after you did some modifications?
 
12:38 PM
answer quick! we're on £250/hr
 
user1804599
 
That's a lot yes
 
user1804599
Weird.
 
If I ask to build a single project, it builds the whole solution regardless.
 
Xeo
12:39 PM
lol
 
Screw it, I'm sticking to the RTM.
 
that's messed up
 
user3010322
"Build Project Only"
 
Oh wait, it doesn't build everything. It just doesn't clean the previous errors.
Ah, think I got it, wait.
 
Xeo
you sound confused
 
12:42 PM
cheers Vlad
 
he almost caught up on my rep
need to do something
 
user3010322
Answer more questions and be more language-lawyer-y!
 
Speaking of rep, Abby hasn't said anything else about my 100k swag.
:(
 
user3010322
Abby?
 
SE employee.
 
12:44 PM
3 2 1
 
@ThePhD We exchanged reports of our lunches at some point and now she's looking into what happened to my swag.
 
hmm I should extend the warranty for my PC
 
user3010322
... Wait a second.
 
user3010322
Did I ever receive that random first-person-asks-for-it swag yet...?
 
user3010322
I think I did... maybe... sometime?
 
12:45 PM
Did you get that?
 
user3010322
I'm not sure! I don't remember getting it.
 
Ah you did.
Jan 1 '14 at 5:28, by Tim Post
Alright, @R.MartinhoFernandes @ThePhD @DietmarKühl send me your details (size, shipping info) to tpost@stackoverflow.com :)
Ha. Twas some PCH nonsense, as usual.
 
user3010322
PCH?
 
Precompiled header.
 
user3010322
Ooh.
 
user3010322
12:47 PM
Ouchies.
 
user3010322
He sent me an e-mail on 1/31/2014 saying it was sent to my address. I think I might've got it, but if I did the swag is now lost... somewhere.
 
user1804599
Yesterday I watched a video of a guy writing APL using a typewriter connected to a computer.
 
user3010322
Would really help if they sent shipping labels / tracking numbers with their stuff. .-.
 
user1804599
He typed ⌹ as ÷, backspace, ⎕, lol.
 
@rightfold god damn hippies
 
user3010322
12:54 PM
Why do strings have to be immutable. :/
 
user3010322
@rightfold What happened to pantoona?
 
@ThePhD fuck mutability
 
is anyone aware of a good cross-platform library to format and write colored text out to console/terminal ? I need to spit out some C++ code with additional stuff
 
user3010322
A lot of people recommended ncurses.
 
user3010322
12:59 PM
I... am not a fan.
 
> wtf happened?
Commit message.
 
So, some Indian user just told me that he'll charge his client more money because of my answer.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes The best kind.
 
@rightfold I remember watching that, that's nice.
 
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum :D
 

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