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11:00 AM
@fge do you know the answet?
answer?
 
fge
Answer to what?
 
How would you go about obtaining a Class<?> object from a non fully qualified name?
 
@JudeNiroshan I just answered practically 15 minutes ago and you completely didn't read any of it?
 
I'm sorry bro
i didn't
 
1 hour ago, by Unihedro
I'm not your bro.
 
11:05 AM
I'll brb calling pest control
 
kk
 
fge
sigh the fact that I now have an actual work is pretty "lame" somewhat since I don't have the time I'd like to do sessions :p
 
Oh, true. :p
Don't feel bad about it. It's all about getting a work-life balance.
 
hmm... yea.
 
inb4 relevant Dilbert comic
 
11:14 AM
anyways, pest control is informed, I'll be back to work
 
:p
 
fge
@Unihedro I'm pretty bad at balancing, that's the problem
 
so, the char code for "evil" summed is 432. sqrt and floor it and you get 20, the char code for CapsLock. CapsLock is the root of all evil.
Hmm.
 
meh.
flooring is boring
 
11:28 AM
@Unihedro Meh... [you can always re-define the key or just buy HHKB]
 
Hmm.
I should build a key on my keyboard "premature optimization". And then redefine it.
 
fge
(I don't even have the time anymore to answer questions on SO; except those where the OP should really use JSR 203)
 
Should I create a bot that pings you whenever a question has code with java.io.File?.
Thanks @ChrisF
 
fge
@Unihedro nah, just keep going with HTTP/2 instead
 
kk
 
11:40 AM
Hi everybody...
 
@Unihedro I'll sit here for a while, you never know it might stop him.
 
Oh, you're the best. Don't worry about it if you're busy though.
 
Anyone one know how to get Pojo from hibernate session without id field.
 
fge
twitch Hibernate twitch
Use JooQ
Drop Hibernate
Hibernate Sucks(tm)
 
@Unihedro I am busy ;) I was hoping that just my presence would be enough ;)
 
11:42 AM
:)
 
Ohk dude....thanks a lot...
 
fge
@Gops start and use JooQ; thank me later
 
@fge May be he can't. He doesn't have the power to make choice. :P
In large teams, normally the architect has the power to make choices for the tool.
 
@ItachiUchiha Don't assume everyone has to work in a large team. xD
Web agencies and startups hires devs as well.
 
> normally
 
11:50 AM
If I put enough time into it, I can probably move all of our codebase to JooQ and get rid of the horrible in-house DAL implementation we have.
 
@ItachiUchiha There are more coders suffering from a lack of coding standard and integration budget than you expect.
 
I can do it technical-wise, and authority-wise.
The problem is that the presumption that I can put enough time into it is false :P
 
fge
@SecondRikudo just start slow ;)
Hello @Gemtastic, and first of all sorry for not having the time to really help you the way I could
 
Jan 31 at 22:44, by fge
notes on todo list: add ThrowingRunnable to throwing-lambdas
 
fge
@Unihedro yes, I still haven't done that
 
11:55 AM
I'll do it.
When I'm at school.
Jan 1 at 10:55, by ItachiUchiha
user image
 
fge
I have nice news on this front; I have contacted the author of ThrowingStream and he likes the idea of merging his project with mine; should that happen, he will gain the stewardship of throwing-lambdas as well
 
Awesome!
 
fge
Also, throwing-lambdas has gained sneaky throw
Some sort of a hack but a nice-to-have in some situation
(s)
(I have to wonder though how you manage to reference messages from ages ago that easily)
 
yesterday, by Unihedro
@ItachiUchiha I am a book of lore, clearly. :P
 
fge
I can see that...
But instead of collecting lore I'd rather you focused on HTTP/2 :p
And DO NOT say that it is "out of your league"
It isn't
 
12:00 PM
@fge I don't collect lore. I collect memory and exempt at searching.
@fge :p
It's fun, for sure.
 
fge
For some definition of "fun", surely... I define "fun" as "challenging", and HTTP/2 clearly is :p
And so is my job, which is why I love it
 
-11
Q: how i can get my JSON

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helpppppppppppppppppppppppp please — m4m4 27 mins ago
^^ user dire for help
 
@fge It's ok. You've helped me out massively allready. I only have a few jooq questions atm
and morning!
 
And morning!
 
does anyone know of an easy way to explain java
After knowing all the concepts in terms of theory
How do you teach a students that knows about the theory how to wrap their head around it. To be the compiler?
*student
 
12:15 PM
... Can you rephrase? I really don't get what you're saying.
 
^^ without even looking at that I can see it's probably carp
 
@Gemtastic Ugh, Eclipse? Downvoted.
 
sorry Gem...
 
Girl A knows Java Theory....
 
12:16 PM
It's better than nothing
 
@Unihedro meh. better than Netbeans
 
> Hi Derek,
I have questions I want to ask you about Computer Science, developing, and internships and such...
What's the best way to contact you? Email or ?
Thanks
This video attracts help vampires in comment sections. xD
 
How do you teach Girl A how to think like a compiler
 
@bongzlive you don't
because Girl A is not a dumb retard
 
@bongzlive Define "Java Theory". Don't invent terms and expect us to read your mind.
 
12:17 PM
but the compiler is. And the compiler doesn't "think"
 
@Vogel612 You're taking this literally. xD
 
sounds kinda sexist to make a girl "think" like a compiler; just do what I told you and shut up
 
mostly because he's a dumb retard. OTOH if the compiler could think, the Turing award would've been awarded a long time ago
 
> that really depends on your work. Some requires very high level mathematics but that is mainly in university research. The vast majority requires skill in logic and problem solving.
 
@Gemtastic eh??? that's your interpretation now.
 
12:19 PM
WTH? xD
 
@Vogel612 as a joke:P
 
wow
 
hmm... considering it's quite hard to make the compiler shut up when you got him to shout at you...
 
She's my daughter and she's struggling but knows her whole textbook
 
don't make her think like the compiler, trust me..
 
12:20 PM
@bongzlive Are you gender biased ?
 
it's detrimental to creativity
 
@bongzlive Hey, want my opinion after Vog ranted?
 
okay okay </rant>
 
I'm not gender biased she's my daughter and she is a girl
 
"A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.…" Timothy 2:12
 
12:21 PM
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Q: How can I help a child stay motivated in learning to program?

bjb568How could I help a smart preteen child (pre-teen) learn programming? He does well in school, and he has skipped 2 grades and is an introverted stereotypical nerd. He is very interested in web development and has mastered the fundamentals of HTML, CSS, and JS, which I don't know anything about (I'...

@bongzlive: Do everything OPPOSITE than what's noted on the first answer.
 
Thank you
 
Discourage them joining computer clubs, make sure she doesn't get to talk with the computer teacher, stay away from tutors and online courses.
Introduce them to the internet, give them a 12 MB text file with a SHA3 hash somewhere within.
 
fge
@Gemtastic OK, but first, did you read, read, and read again, section 5?
 
Teach her not to reveal her gender anywhere else than in here
 
Watch how quick they'll discover Python.
 
12:22 PM
@fge yes
 
And then Stack Overflow. And then us!
 
fge
@Gemtastic and your remaining questions are... What?
 
Also, install Ubuntu for their computer. Don't use Windows. It's poisoning.
 
fge
Note that more generally I could just help you getting started with my code (that is, the debugger) but that is not what @SecondRikudo taught you, so...
 
12:23 PM
@Unihedro I beg to differentiate there.
 
fge
But it does the job fine for JavaFX
 
I can't express enough how glad I am about the level of equality in here <3
 
fge
@Vogel612 "I beg to differ"
 
meh. that would signal disagreement with the point, wouldn't it?
 
@Gemtastic :D <3
 
fge
12:24 PM
Yes
 
@Vogel612 continue
 
@fge when I've downed my breakfast I'm gonna ask ^^
 
fge
Breakfast at 1:25pm, huh
 
@Unihedro You guys are awesome ^.^
 
Windows can be a viable and simple alternative to Linux, for the cases where you want an OS that "works" rather simplistically
the only challenges I faced on windows when going for Java was Environment Variables
 
12:25 PM
@fge I woke up at 3am, coded 'til 6 then went to bed again
 
on Linux I had apt-mirror management, path variables, symlinks, installing a proper IDE (and not Eclipse Juno), ...
 
@Vogel612 those can be a bit nasty until you know how
 
all at once that can be overwhelming
My point exactly, Gem ;)
 
Point taken. But honestly, I've never seen any of my classmates IRL who use Windows know what file extensions are.
 
I was just chiming in with an agreement ;P
 
12:26 PM
@Unihedro there are no file extensions...
 
High-level OS's like Windows fail to run as an operating system; They rather behave like a library computer.
 
fge
File extensions are nothing
 
Like, everything is blocked. xD
 
@Unihedro That's not a windows thing. I've known what they were since I was 8 and played around in win95
 
fge
They don't tell anything
They are just part of a file name
 
12:27 PM
^^that
 
fge
Only DOS cares, and FAT* filesystems
That's all
 
Yeah.
Meh, bad example. :p
 
fge
And your DE cares -- unfortunately, too much
Even JSR203 has defects here
 
DE?
 
To be dumb proof, you can choose if you want the file extensions to be editable or not. By default, they aren't.
 
fge
12:28 PM
Desktop Environment
 
echo ${foo##*.}
 
@Gemtastic you can even hide them. You know what a hassle it is to permanently have to redisable this on all computers but mine when my family calls for "troubleshooting"?
 
fge
This is why one thing I want to do with java7-fs-more is provide file type guessers which are smarter than those of the JDK's
 
@fge this sounds like a rather difficult thing..
 
@Vogel612 That's why I said it's to be dumb proof ;P most people aren't advanced enough to know that a JPEG image needs to end with .jpg
 
12:31 PM
which I personally find sad.
 
But honestly, reverting back to the Against Windows topic, Windows is an OS that simplifies too much. It makes it difficult to learn about file systems and drivers and configuration for hardware from fixing things because there's a "diagnose" button.
Also, batch files suck.
 
yea! use .sh instead
:D
 
^^^^
 
@Gemtastic @fge What I posted is my view of MVC
It's not absolute or anything
 
above?
 
12:33 PM
It strikes a good balance between number of layer of abstraction and level of abstraction
 
@SecondRikudo Your own view? Not your company's?
 
I can't see it O.o
 
@Unihedro No
 
kk
 
@Unihedro completely agreed. but doing all this instantly is often simply overwhelming
 
12:33 PM
@Gemtastic What I spoke of in the talk, and what I've been teaching you
 
@Vogel612 I agree as well; But it has to be done
 
oh? I missed some MVC talk?
 
@SecondRikudo You made it sound like you posted it the last 30 min I've been here :P
 
do you have a link for later consumption?
 
^
Now I'm curious too. xD
 
12:34 PM
@Vogel612 On my YouTube channel
 
I really should watch more videos by Stack Overflow users.
 
hmm.. probably.
 
I liked a @YouTube video http://youtu.be/MbklA4MK4n4?a Rumbling about MV*
Twitter is so annoying. xD
 
which reminds me: Stackoverflow TV got officially cancelled now or what is up with that thing?
 
Too bad, so sad. :/
 
12:37 PM
@Unihedro 404?
 
@SecondRikudo I deleted it. Twitter double-posted the similar tweet because i liked + favourited it.
 
hrmph... the thing that really makes me angry about twitter is this gosh darn modal popup whenever I visit it.
did you hear: the Troll's privacy is at stake
 
@Vogel612 Oh?
Just saw it. xD
 
Don't persons like this have better things to do?
> I will sue you guys.
 
12:45 PM
Eh, I have lawyers.
 
Looks like my theory didn't work :(
 
seems like it, yes.
 
Oh well.
 
@ChrisF You helped ;)
Don't feel bad.
 
I don't ;)
If I could do more I would.
 
12:46 PM
Like, nuke it ;D
 
already down
 
Are we talking about a specific troll here?
 
at -8 that is, but eh
@Gemtastic it's about our very own Java room troll
who else?
 
@Gemtastic not Shau ...
 
@Gemtastic The troll that made me type and link inline "previously" five times.
 
12:47 PM
~cough
 
3 mins ago, by Vogel612
Don't persons like this have better things to do?
 
Well, I'm innocent to this thing but... Karma is a bitch
 
This is an incredibly deep question, now that I think about it. xD
 
fge
@Vogel612 not that difficult, really
 
@Unihedro it's mostly rhetoric though
 
fge
12:49 PM
@SecondRikudo sure but then my view is not yours since I use MVP with passive views, which has quite a few differences from MVC ;)
 
darn native tounge interferences
 
But no, what "better things"? Better is subjective. You would think people invest their time productively, but people are stupid. You would think trolling online is a waste of time, but evidently people like that exist.
 
@Unihedro Lol, a card on the apple logo :D
 
user50049
</troll>
 
1:01 PM
Hiya @Sam! I didn't get to reply in the anti-pond previously, but I didn't get around to doing proper art for. xD
 
@Gemtastic If you link directly to the xkcd post, it will onebox as well (with the proper title= too)
 
@TimPost ... oh?
... Oh.
 
@TimPost Gungnir'ed?
 
@SecondRikudo Of course it does
 
</saga>
 
Sam
1:02 PM
@Unihedro Hiya, lol :D
 
I did, however, invest time in staring at improvements for the algorithm.
 
Sam
The irrational num hashing algo?
 
Yeah.
 
Sam
Cool, so whatchya find?
 
I think both the processes, generating the number + looking up the index, are both unviable.
 
Sam
1:04 PM
I'm inclined to agree.
... so, by "improvements" you mean ditch the whole idea?
 
Eh, I just dropped those two steps. xD
Its persistence can be replaced by equally trusty deterministic steps.
 
Darth toast!
 
@SecondRikudo really now? gold badge holders are Thor and employees are Odin?
and what are mods then?
 
Loki?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Right...
 
1:09 PM
eeeh no
 
Trickster gods!
 
@Gemtastic he's weaker than Thor (in principle)
 
Father and mother of monsters!
 
it's just that Thor often behaves like an idiot and gets caught in an unfavorable situation
 
He birthed sleipner. It wins over thor any day
 
1:10 PM
I actually refer to Mjolnir for close hammer (either by gold badge holders or by mods), and Gungnir for user extermination.
 
fge
@SecondRikudo @Gemtastic what do you say we have a short session on how my debugger is built?
With a JavaFX focus
 
@SecondRikudo hmm... that makes sense..
 
@fge SGTM. Anytime you want
 
So yeah, the idea of using an irrational number may have been interesting as a thought experiment, but as an algorithm it really doesn't work out. xD
 
fge
SGTM?
 
1:11 PM
now we just need to find Urd, Werdandi and Skuld and we got most of the relevant parts for the mythology
 
fge
Ah
 
One application may be to be used in quantum computing...
 
fge
Sounds Good To Me, right?
@Gemtastic?
 
Sam
@Unihedro I suppose, theoretically, we could just use a PRNG instead of (trying) to compute an irrational number.
 
@fge I'm interested to lurk :p
@Sam That's another thing I looked at.
 
fge
1:12 PM
@Unihedro no objection
 
Sam
@Unihedro And did it pass Uni's sux test?
 
The better thing about generating real numbers instead of precision types is that integers has a binary representation that is straightforward - precision types uses exponent bits.
And that makes it difficult. xD
 
@fge I don't have the best of equipment atm; I'm away from home on my laptop
 
fge
@Gemtastic and does that prevent you from attending? What if I record the video?
 
@fge If you record it I'll watch it when I get home! :D
Or we could schedule a hangout on sunday
 
fge
1:13 PM
No, Sunday would be too late
Didn't you say that the deadline was next week?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Yeah, which would also entail (hopefully) an overall "less intensive" algo.
 
fge
@Gemtastic I'd do this primarily for you, so you'd better be there and listening and taking notes :p
 
Sam
Then again, we're still left with a massive hash though.
 
fge
While awaiting for your approval, I'll keep going on my work :)
 
Ugh.
 
1:16 PM
ages old PoB.
 
You sure it's not ot-rec?
 
@fge On sunday then?
 
fge
That late?
Are you sure, really sure?
 
@Unihedro hmm... yes that, too
 
@Gemtastic Wasn't your deadline like, tomorrow?
 
fge
1:19 PM
I don't want to play the devil's advocate but given the difficulties you have shown so far, I'd rather do it sooner than later
(sorry for being brutally honest)
 
@SecondRikudo Yes it is
 
@fge IMO you shouldn't be.
often brutal honesty is the best way to go, but many people seem to be "scared" of that.
 
@fge you should be more polite.
Like this deer
 
I totally saw it coming. XD
 
@Unihedro Was waiting for a chance :D
 
1:24 PM
@Vogel612 I'm not though. Also I'm not surprised considering we've had major communication problems me and fge
 
hmmm this communication thing is also between me and fge so it's not just you
interestingly it's only in writing, on hangouts it works just fine.
 
It's usually better when you can talk verbally
Text don't have intonations
 
that's not even the problem...
 
meh
Whatever works for you though ^^
 
nothing wrong with being friendly (and nice), but sometimes it's not helping and then it is wrong.
well it took a while until I learned the former
 
1:36 PM
Hmm, not sure how that relates here. I'm really thankful that he still wants to help me despite that I have a hard time expressing myself and understanding him
Some days I really understand if he wants to globally ignore me XD
 
fge
I am a stubborn guy :p
 
That stubbornness will make you an excellent teacher
 
fge
In any event I believe Sunday is too late
I'd rather this be done soon
 
It's never too late to learn
 
^
 
fge
1:42 PM
OK, but then it's never too soon either
 
boolean eggs :P
 
actually that's the problem about thinking like a compiler..
 
Compilers are stupid.
@Sword "rinse and repeat"
 
Hello, do you have eggs?
- Hello, yes, we do.
- Then 6 bottles of milk please.
 
fge
@Sword excellent!
 
1:55 PM
@Sword I can totally imagine this conversation happening somewhere
 
@SecondRikudo where?? :D
 
fge
Well, I could certainly reason like that
Except that I'd probably ask "six what?"
 
@Vogel612 see??
 
@fge Spoken like a true Java developer.
 
@fge No but I have to keep going at my project now. Not sure if I will catch any sleep tonight :/
 
1:57 PM
s/If they have eggs, bring 6/If they have eggs, bring 6 of them, too/
BOOM NullPointerException
 
fge
@SecondRikudo meh :p I don't want to guess for the user in case I get it wrong, so probably :p
 
fge
2:14 PM
@Gemtastic as you wish; but then I have a working solution which you may want to use, this is why I told that
 
I know. But I fixed the tables. The thing I need to wrap my head around is what jooq is returning to me. I've managed to learn the querying kinda, but I can't put the results into anything
 
fge
Well, this is where I think I can help
As you wish
I need to be gone for 30 mns or so
 
I solved it! Wihu
Also; tests are awesome!
 
2:34 PM
@Gemtastic Party to banti hai :D
 
Eh?
But yeah, party to unit testing!
 
@Gemtastic means "that makes up for a party"/ "enough reason for a treat/party"
 
> I, for once, died a total of 3 times. I write stuff after I die.
 
Oh no! I clicked on a TotalBiscuit video. Clean my pc plz
 
2:51 PM
 sudo rm -rf /
 
fge
Back
 
^^ kills everything
 
I'm not that stupid yet.
 
well it's clean after that...
 
:S
 
fge
2:54 PM
@Gemtastic whenever you feel like it
 
if you're lucky it didn't spread yet...
sudo rm -rf /tmp/
 
This is still so awesome. xD
 
> Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior Techno?
 
fge
resists the urge to post a link to his favorite music video _again_
 
would rather have the room not be as overt quiet
 
fge
2:59 PM
Meh, then...
Here goes
 
I've heard this before. xD
Never mind, you probably linked it once.
 

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