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3:02 PM
@Unihedro which hat?
 
@Bohemian selfie
 
Selfie?
 
what's its trigger?
 
Ask + answer, gotta do both
 
3:03 PM
anyone else got fascinating?
and know why?
 
meee
upvote an answer that already has high score
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/27486523/… this question needs an upvote :P
 
I got it but I don't know why
 
you can upvote a question that's insanely high scored for "Fascinating, ma'am"
@EdiG. If it's the question, why you link to the answer?
 
3:06 PM
Guys as the festival is on, why don't you just upvote my questions & answers :P
 
@Mr.777 Are you encouraging a christmas voting ring? A moderator (side glares at @Bohemian) is watching us :P
 
Ops , i was kidding :P @Uni
 
Exactly.... vote the Q/A if it's worthy of a vote.
 
> On The Road
ask using the app
 
But please don't upvote rubbish
 
3:08 PM
This is going to be hard because I typically don't ask questions even, less to using my phone keyboard.
 
@Boh Why your username appears in different color than others? :O
 
Feels like all I can do is upvote
 
@Mr.777 MODERATOR
He hast even more powers than I!
 
@Unihedro Awwww
 
Which include but are not limited to destroying your sockpuppet accounts, giving you suspension for voting irregularities, locking threads and handling tons of boring flags, and more!
You should totally run for mod in the next election.
 
3:10 PM
@Unihedro How can I with just 400 something rep :P
 
Yeah. It is not fun and games.
 
I was also wondering why he's blue
 
@Mr.777 It's impossible
 
@Mr.777 I never said you would make it.
3
 
@Bohemian Yeah that's what I said
@Unihedro :P
 
3:11 PM
He couldn't even run
 
You see, even with a decent flag history like I, people don't study your meta participation, they just vote whoever has the best avatar and most points.
 
I will ask @fge to go for these elections, he will definitely run and win ;)
 
You have to have done loads of queue work to even be considereed
 
@Mr.777 He's reluctant to even voting to close, don't bother. :P
 
@Unihedro why is Bill not on that page?
 
3:12 PM
@Vogel612 Because... They're not elected mod?
Oh, Bill was made mod before elections existed. So...
 
but Anna is? lol...
 
Here's a little tidbit: make sure you vote. Last year, the difference between 3rd and 4th was a mere 0.6 of a vote
 
I thought she were by Employee powers...
 
\o/
 
out of 10's of thousands of votes
 
3:13 PM
@Unihedro You vote people into moderators?
How can I vote for you?
 
@Uni You have got quite few fans ;)
 
@Mr.777 :D
 
Uni has the rawmaterial to be a really good moderator
 
there are 3 community elected moderators elected by YOU every year
 
Oooh
 
fge
3:13 PM
Elections of what?
 
well first off there needs to be an election.
 
Well, I'm new to this site for this year so I didn't know
 
@Vogel612 Feburary.
@fge Moderator election.
 
then Uni needs to agree to candidating
 
ppl nominate themselcves, there a primary then a ballot
 
3:14 PM
4 mins ago, by Unihedro
http://stackoverflow.com/election
 
and then you can vote for him.
@Bohemian not always themselves..
 
fge
@Unihedro moderator of?
 
fge
Hmm
Not sure if I'm interested
I am not here that often
 
I am here that often, but I'm not worthy
 
3:15 PM
@Gemtastic When there's an election, you see an entire large thread just like the main site, the "question body" is basically describes what the election is (AKA boilerplate junk, just skip) the "answer body" consists of posts owned by each and every candidate in the (primary|secondary) phase. You're only a candidate if you have enough rep to cross the barrier among 50 highest rep users.
 
a lot of boring work and trouble shooting
 
The top N voted candidates move onto the secondary phase, where every cycle a person is ELIMINATED.
 
@Unihedro Neat :D Make sure you apply this year (2015) then so I can vote for you!
 
Until 5 people remains, then the top 3 voted candidates become mod.
@Gemtastic hichris ran for mod last year. He went into primary run.
 
@Unihedro I have no idea who that is
:/
 
3:17 PM
Then again, people don't vote for your meta participation and contribution, just what they see on that post (your avatar and your rep count), so the lower rep users never win, even if they're determined.
 
@fge - are you from the same place as your avatar?
 
And I don't care about getting points, so. :P
 
fge
doesn't know how to use half the functionality of SO -- how can I be a moderator anyway?
@Bohemian no
 
thinks fge is bored listening to us
 
fge
@Unihedro I am coding
 
3:17 PM
I wanna make stuff for SO
 
I've read Meta inside out, so you can ask stuff as always, @fge :P
 
fge
@Unihedro and I still need help for the java7-fs wiki
 
@Gemtastic Learn Java, then code a library for users on [apps.se] to use!
@fge on it!
 
@fge Coding??? are you programmer ? :D
 
@Gem get involved over on meta
 
fge
3:18 PM
@EdiG. not a professional one -- I wish I were
 
@Bohemian I'm trying to, I just don't have a lot to contribute with yet :I
But I read some
 
fge
Anyway, @Mr.777 is doing a fine job
 
Meta is a dark and evil place, but once you take a few steps you'll feel home :D
 
fge
likes teaching people
 
Not everyone is a programmer - one of the top contributors in the regex tag is a medical doctor!
 
3:19 PM
@fge That's good
 
/me feels proud :D
 
@Bohemian Interesting.
 
@Bohemian tchrist?
 
Nah Tim
 
@fge with 43,745 rep... you are definitely a beginner :P
 
3:20 PM
Though I am a programmer. A programmer in the making I suppose...
 
Oh. I thought it was polylubricantpants or tchrist.
 
fge
@EdiG. figures :p
My only gold medal for answering questions is java indeed
But no, I'm no professional programmer
 
@EdiG. Reputation really only determines the popularity of your posts and how aged they are.
Too much good content gets buried, thank god I can place bounties on them. Didn't see any lately, though.
-yawns-
 
fge
Makes me think... There's a question which I need to place a bounty on
I doubt there will be a definitive answer though
 
Do it after you turn on hats! There's a hat for throwing bounties during Hanukkah.
 
3:22 PM
@Unihedro this guy: tim pietzcker
 
@Bohemian Decent regex hobbyist indeed!
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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

bobinceYou can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

That is still the highest scored regex answer. I hate it so much.
 
I'm so tempted to answer "No.".
 
fge
@Unihedro prove it with a counter example ;) Honestly, I can't think of any
There are quite a few providers implemented out there but none of them have absolute paths which don't have a root
Anyway, if you are interested at "dirtying" your hand with some java.nio.file code, I have plenty for you to work on :p
eyes @ItachiUchiha
 
3:36 PM
He's not here. :P
 
gtg - l8r all
 
@Bohemian Seeya! Watch out for StackBot!
 
later
 
3:51 PM
@Unihedro hey mr regex hobbyist.... I have a problem with backtracking here..
 
@Vogel612 speak, I'm listening
 
It seems to not match SE-flavored links properly
and then falls back to bactracking down to a non-whitespace matching group.
 
@Unihedro Well I am back..
Gimme the link to wiki @fge
 
@ItachiUchiha Welcome back!
@Vogel612 regex, string and test cases please
 
@uni how is the javaroom.website?
 
fge
3:54 PM
@ItachiUchiha java7fs.wikia.com
 
@ItachiUchiha too busy looking for hats :D
 
lolz, sometimes I feel we waste too much of time in SO :P
 
s,waste,spend
 
I just have it as a tab open on this computer, I can afford [again] to waste a hint of power...
 
3:56 PM
@Joe'sMorgue heya, I can see you are busy now-a-days
 
@Vogel612 A++
 
MULTI-Tasking again!!! :P
Did I tell you about the comparison of the two machines?
 
I have heard it a million times :P
 
@Vogel612 Jesus christ! Must I figure out what messageTokenRegex is myself? Is this a riddle?
 
About A.S. and the Acer?
 
3:58 PM
the problematic part is the linkTokenRegex.
it doesn't match the link in the testString
@Unihedro the message token regex only ors all the other token types together
 
Eh, I'll run a debugger, too hard to diagnose by mind.
@Vogel612 Yes, it doesn't.
 
@Unihedro but I don't understand why...
 
fge
Hey, bounties do work
And I have a lot of great answers
So, Chord, eh?
 
Did you turn on hats?
 
fge
I'll have to have a look at this one
@Unihedro I didn't
 
4:03 PM
[^\s]++ breaks your entire regex @Vog
 
but I kinda need it..
 
^ this works when you take it away
@Vogel612 You know what it's for, right?
 
matching everything not whitespaceish
one or multiple times,
without consuming.
 
"Without consuming"?
 
fge
Hey, guys, you are making me twitch there
Go write a grappa grammar
It will be MUCH easier
 
4:05 PM
Eh... no. It matches all non-whitespaces one to any, without backtracking.
 
@fge this is the last thing...
everything workd..
 
And there's a whitespace.
 
I don't understand how to make it stop...
 
What do you mean?
 
fge
@Unihedro a question if I may; where has your final n gone in your nick? Did you lose a bet or something?
 
4:07 PM
it should just kick in if there's absolutely nothing else that matched.
 
@Vogel612 That's not really what happens.
@fge Winter!
 
but that's what I want... ahem
 
@Vogel612 test cases please, I'll fix this
 
fge
@Unihedro is that the reason?
 
@fge Winter!
 
fge
4:09 PM
Uh
OK, I give up
 
in Teenage Programmers Chatroom, Dec 8 at 15:24, by Unihedro
@its_justjack Winter!
in Teenage Programmers Chatroom, Dec 8 at 15:29, by Unihedro
Yes, we all did something nice for winter. New names or new avatars, in preparation for christmas and winterbash!
@Vog You also have to beware to change [^\s"]++, it will match the bracket as well (when the "title" is missing) without backtracking, effectively failing
 
fge
And here we go, json-patch has one more star on gihub. That makes 68 for it, and 310 for json-schema-validator
 
gZ!
 
fge
believes both are used in way more companies than what he thinks
 
4:19 PM
@Unihedro test cases to no end in the github
 
fge
25k downloads for both on sonatype too
 
Hi
 
Um.. Maybe you should port their parsing JS code instead of writing your own
hallo
 
OMG I have to have one of these! XD
 
@fge the wikia page has too many ad's
/ I hate ad's
 
4:24 PM
@ItachiUchiha use host block scripts!
 
Anyone able to help me with an RMI theory question?
 
fge
@ItachiUchiha uh, I use adblock, so I don't notice them
Not sure if we can remove them
 
@fge me too
 
@fge AdBlock sucks
They inject five thousand CSS rules in every website you browse, that's stupid
 
@Gemtastic You should see a Dr. about that
 
4:25 PM
/ Another thing that Uni doesn't like
 
fge
@Unihedro what doesn't suck then? ;)
 
@BrianJ what is RMI??
 
@Joe'sMorgue Yeah, she told me to take two and call in the morning
 
fge
@Unihedro maybe, but then I'm no web dev and it Just Works(tm) -- if you have better, feel free to tell me ;)
 
4:25 PM
remote method invocation
@Vogel612
 
1 min ago, by Unihedro
@ItachiUchiha use host block scripts!
 
She don't work in the morning, you know that, right?
 
@BrianJ thanks ;)...
 
@Joe'sMorgue In sweden they do
 
@BrianJ so what is the problem?
 
4:27 PM
@Vogel612 I understand that pass by reference is less costly in terms of size of data being sent.
@Vogel612 But I'm not sure how to answer the part asking how the getAccount() can be implemented to return a reference to an instance of account.
 
Unihedron - Casually bashing Google, Apple products, Windows, Pastebin, Wired mouses, cheap OCR devices, spaghetti code, AdBlock, Time zones, bullet trains, civilizations, and online tutorials since 2013
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fge
@BrianJ what??
 
@fge
 
fge
@BrianJ you seem to be misunderstanding what "pass by reference" means
 
@BrianJ Java is always pass by value. Except the value can be a reference to an object.
 
4:33 PM
Unihedron - Casually bashing all things sucky since 2013
 
fge
@Gemtastic s,sucky ,,
 
^^^^^^^^ ^_^
 
I guess he is bashing everything that people use :P
 
fge
The only thing I bash upon is... Well... You know
 
FILE
 
fge
4:34 PM
Yes!
 
:D
 
fge
Good, I've driven the point home, now I need to complete the "why File sucks" page :p
I have plenty to tell
 
I like your hat @Ita :P
 
So do I
 
4:36 PM
@Unihedro Okay that clears things up a bit, so what are the implications of returning a reference to an instance of Account rather than a by-value implementation? I'm thinking its because the whole object doesn't have to be serialized?
 
Looks like the both of you have crabs
 
@BrianJ no, it's because your book sucks your question carries over an abstraction that it is better to copy the value of reference over deep copy the value of the object.
It doesn't imply you gotta use "copy-by-reference", just that you have to design an approach using the "return references" concept, and discuss how it's better than deep copy implementations.
Java is always pass by value. No pointers. No address bitshifting.
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No hacks. You don't solve problems, problems solve you.
Okay, we've gone too far.
 
@Unihedro so deep copy is copying the entire object?
 
@BrianJ Would you like a visualization? You seem confused. I understand that all the terms coming together sounds too hard.
 
@unihe
@Unihedro yes please, a visualization might make it more understandable.
 
fge
4:47 PM
Brian Goetz on Java's Serializable:
 
Well... I'm not going to draw the entire thing again, but deep copy is essentially replacing the light blue box with the dark blue box every single time, and hence you "pass" by "copying".
@Brian ping
 
@Unihedro processing :P
 
Anyone knows, how can i play youtube videos? It's banned here, so?
 
@Mr.777 proxy.
 
@Vogel612 How? No idea how to do it. I have tried HotSpot but it fails now
 
4:57 PM
@Mr.777 VPN
Or SSH over it if you're decent enough with the technology
 
@Unihedro I am interested to know, how?
 
@Unihedro the example above is returning a reference, so what is the difference in using a by-value implementation?
 
@Mr.777 if you SSH over a linux, read this:
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Q: How do I play an HTTP music stream over SSH?

AnkoI know I can just do mplayer <stream> to open and play a stream on the local machine. However, I'm behind a firewall. Instead, I'd like to open the stream on a remote machine, but still play it on this one. Remote connections are what SSH is for, but doing ssh "mplayer <stream>" both opens and p...

ssh -L <local>:<host(stream)>:<port(stream)> <user>@<remote>
 
@BrianJ incorrect. it returns the value of a reference..
 
5:01 PM
@BrianJ As Vog said, it returns a value of the reference (notice that the value is merely the box which expects where the object it's pointing to is), while passing by value means that you're returning the value by copying the value from generating the object to copying it for returning.
 
Guys, I am getting good at my work. fge just said ;)
 
Well done! You get fge's approval! :)
 
@Unihedro Yep ;)
 
@Unihedro Okay so the value of the reference is just a reference to where the object is, while copying by value is copying the entire object.
 
@BrianJ That is correct! Technically, "references" comes at many types, but they do not apply to this thing you're passing. And "pass by-value" is really "deep copy on every assignment".
 
5:13 PM
@unihedro so the implications of a by-value implementation of the remote method's return type would be a performance degradation due to passing more data over the network?
 
@BrianJ For this case, yes. However, as you study more designs and implementations you will be discussed scenarios where pass by-value is a valuable technique to use.
 
@unihedro thanks for clearing that up, so your diagram above is how to return a reference to an instance of account? you just have to create a banking service instance then create an account 'ref' and call the getAccount() like Account ref = val.getAccount
 
@BrianJ yes, and when you get "ref", all calls are wrapping calls to the actual object, so you never have to copy the object over and over.
 
@Unihedro Okay how could I do the reverse, ie pass by value?
 
hey guys
 
5:19 PM
hu
 
hi
 
@BrianJ I don't know. I don't draw UML diagrams.
Hello @Ben @Yser
 
Guys the following quesiton is supposed to print all odd numbers to 20, (not java) but im trying to understand, is it just me or its for real looking wrong?
 
What language is that? Pseudocode?
 
Not sure, the military gives u that langauge in some test and u have to learn it in place
 
5:22 PM
thinking out loud here
 
im practicing for htese tests atm, im not sure if they released bad answers or dunno
 
1 SET X VALUE 20
2 WHILE X > 0
3 SET Y VALUE X / 2
4 IF Y = 1
5 PRINT X
6 SET X VALUE X - 1
7 END
 
the syntax for variable initialization is SET <name> VALUE <value>
 
@BenBeri it's not initialization...
it's assignment
 
^
 
5:24 PM
wat i always thought initialize means set something lol
Need english courses
 
1 {x: 20}, 2 {x: 20, t: true}, 3 {x: 20, y: 10}, 4 {x: 20, y: 10, t: false}, 5 {x: 20, y: 10, st: print 20}
wth? What does that have to do with off numbers?
 
i dont know... thats what im trying to figure
 
Answer: no
 
maybe they released incorrect answers?
 
It's not printing all odd number unless X/2 is X%2
This will only print 2
 
5:27 PM
well on the page i read it doesnt say anything about being mod
look at the end of the line
it says : example: 7 /2 = 3
 
@BenBeri Yes, so it will only print 2
 
@Unihedro thanks for the help,bye
 
bye
 
@Mr.777 Maybe they are testing my creativity and see if I can find out that there's no way to print all ODD numbers from 0 to 20 and only the possible one that the language can support?
 
@BenBeri There is possibility of printing odd from 0 to 20 but not with the above given pseudo code
 
5:40 PM
HI @Walle !!
-4
A: triangle shows up on android emulator, not on hardware

JOhnatha DoeI believe if you multiplied cow by the equivalent of a donkey fish that you would get 400 and then if you subtracted the dinosaur from the elephant than yo would get the obvious answer of butt rape.

free flags
 
@Unihedro the question also needs CVs.
 
@Vogel612 reason-pls
 
missing code for "why isn't this code working" question
 
agreed and cv'd
ugh, caching
 
6:04 PM
Chat doesn't recognize https links... Great, just great...
 
fge
@OlegKuznetsov the link above works for me
 
Yes, but it doesn't display that fancy widget :(
 
6:20 PM
Great, soooo great.. I finallly managed to hate Eclipse
 
All IDEs have their suckyness
 
what took so long? xD
 
Yes so I am going for IDEA now :D
 
@OlegKuznetsov onebox must be the link consuming the entire message
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Q: how to complete this qn

PPPA tourist wants to visit some cities in the United States. This is his first visit to the country. The country is so big that he wants to be able to track the cities he visits. For this application you will use a queue data structure to keep track ...

Whoa that sucks.
 
6:33 PM
@Uni? Do you use IDEA?
 
Word of the day - suckyness
 
It should probably be spelled suckiness
to accommodate the english grammar rules
 
yeah, we can skip the details :P
and just use whatever sounds good to us
 
:P
 
fge
6:54 PM
@ItachiUchiha still not ready to write code for me? :p
 
@fge I am, last time I checked, 777 asked me something about Guava, which I have never worked on :P
 
fge
@ItachiUchiha well, the task I have in mind does not have anything to do with Guava
 
Go ahead, I am listening..
 
fge
OK, the project is this one
@Mr.777 is working on one part, you'll be working on another one... ;)
 
Making a GUI?
 
fge
6:58 PM
@Gemtastic nope, pure "low level", invisible stuff
 
@fge Allright :P
 
@Gemtastic We'll work on that someday :)
 
:)
 
@fge java7-fs-more?
 
Feels good that I can help out a little at least when people come here once in a blue moon with FX questions
 
fge
6:59 PM
@Gemtastic I do have a GUI project in my mind but I'd need to specify it a little before even asking someone for help
@ItachiUchiha precisely
@ItachiUchiha @Mr.777 is working on MorePaths; I'd ask you, if you agree, to start work on MoreFiles
 

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