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5:38 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 6 hours to continue reviewing.
Did 40 in .
The close votes on that tag keep coming, I think 30 out of 40 questions I reviewed were posted today or yesterday.
 
6:12 PM
Roses are red,
close votes are blue
15 minutes till event
Join us, won't you?

We won't bite
We just want to help
Got a question?
Give us a yelp!

Rene will chose a tag
Our efforts combine
Soon that review number
Will be in decline

Eventually the queue will be clear
And the process will be slow
But then we can enjoy
Stack Overflow
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Oh, an event within 15 minutes?
Missed that, did all my reviews already.
 
ah drats
 
@gunr2171 *will choose
 
I'm now using a SEDE query to find [ios] questions with close votes so I can cast some more on them.
 
And I think it's "will clear"... clear is an adjective in "will be clear"
Starred for the last line..
 
6:16 PM
@Unihedron GOD DAMN IT, i messed it up
oh well, close enough
 
Sam
~ pun detected ~
 
giggles
 
Now we just need @rene and @TGMCians to show up and we can go to town
 
Sam
Ohhh, can we get some closenuts and coffee on the way?
 
6:20 PM
~ pun detected ~
 
Sam
;)
 
11,094
need review

1,480
reviews today
Today's tags are , then
and rene shows up just as I say that
 
Phew, I made it...
I just came home, need to prep food as well
So let's start
 
ok, i'm going
 
Tnx @gunr2171 for starting up...
 
6:31 PM
And rene, scroll up a bit, you might like that one
though i botched the grammar
 
I'm wondering: when I visit the page of the tag, I see an indicator of the amount of open review tasks, but I don't see this on . Why?
 
@ProgramFOX you reviewed them all?
 
@Unihedron I haven't done any angularjs review.
 
@ProgramFOX hidden tags?
 
6:34 PM
@rene Hm, perhaps I did some reviews in them, but certainly not enough to clear them all for me.
 
@gunr2171 I'm speechless...
 
;)
 
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 5 hours.
Night!
 
problem is I have to keep thinking of something creative for each event
Night!
 
Sam
Night!
 
6:35 PM
Night!
 
brb ... chopping vegetables....
 
This is not a question. Voting to close. — trojanfoe 10 hours ago
hum, thought that was supposed to one-box
 
Sam
I know. It doesn't onebox comment links from the queue.
 
Now the open review tasks indicator for ios is also gone... O_O
 
6:37 PM
ah, got it
 
@Unihedron Done.
 
Sam
Passed c++ audit.
 
\o/
 
passed java audit
tnx @gunr2171 removed my comment
 
6:46 PM
same here
 
brb... meat in the pan
 
Reviewing while cooking :D
 
Rene is frying food and posts at the same time.
Filtering on [ios][unclear], I'm getting ~25 day old questions right now
 
aha
Without filter, I got to 5 day old questions.
 
Sam
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 5 hours to continue reviewing.
 
6:52 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 5 hours to continue reviewing.
 
Sam
> Badge Progress 999
 
@ProgramFOX Yeah, real challenge
 
7:07 PM
Ok, well I'm out for today. See ya!
 
@gunr2171 cya
 
Sam
Cya!
 
@gunr2171 ah...
I missed...!!!
anyway see ya!
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
so now I am only one who didn't do anything today :/
 
7:16 PM
Well, there are at least 16.000 others that could have done their reviews but didn't....
@TGMCians Don't feel sad personally
 
8:07 PM
you guys left me alone :/
anyway..
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
I'm still here
 
night!
 
night!
 
Sam
night!
 
8:43 PM
@rene Took me a while to find the chat to link back to! I think "lack of effort" used to be a recognised CV reason - but is no longer? I mentioned some of that aspect in a comment to Ron under [the question]. Anybody posting anything but rubbish here is surely making more effort than our main audience (ie stray googlers). Is it not just sadism to put OPs through hoops when there is next to nothing to be gained by that?
There are clearly some question where OP’s simple don’t know what is available. Obliging them to try stupid ideas just for the sake of appearances seems of little value. For example what can be expected of anyone who does not know what -- means? Can’t even Google it if you don’t know what it is called. Script is different since any attempt is very likely to be of some guidance.
 
Lack-of-effort is indeed gone.
 
Hi, can somebody help me with something please ?
 
I know either vote unclear or too broad for those
@paulalexandru sure
 
I know this is not the right place to ask this, but i don't know where i can do this. I want to earn the pear presure badge and i need one more ratedown to this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/27002561/…
 
@pnuts That might be true but we are not a tutorial site. So if you know nothing yet SO is not the right place to start
@paulalexandru I'm not going to help you with that. Ask an even more basic question on SO maybe in the C++ tag? they are very happy to downvote everything they see...
 
8:49 PM
:(
 
SO may not be the best place to start (though clearly many do) but if Q&A's don't teach then I am totally misunderstanding something extremely fundamental. Should I start digging out the many thousands of questions here (still open) where the OP has at some point mentioned the equivalent of "Oh! I never knew that!"?
 
@paulalexandru cheer up, have some inspiration: stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/… ;)
 
But to return to "lack of effort" - as mentioned, I think that WAS the case but is NO LONGER. Why then are you making up your own rules?
 
@pnuts It is grey, I admit that. But you can only learn on the edges of your curent knowledge. If you have no knowledge yet there is not enough substance to lock on to.
@pnuts Ledt me dig in the history hold on....
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Q: Closing changes: on hold, unclear, too broad, opinion-based, off-topic reasons, bye-bye to Too Localized

JaydlesAfter a ton of discussion, work and input from the community, we're rolling out the remainder of major closing changes that you've helped us design, as discussed in these prior posts. They're live, network-wide RIGHT NOW!!! See also: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/06/the-war-of-the-closes/ ...

@pnuts The lack of effort reason was AFAIK 'Not a real question' (NARQ)
That got replaced as indicated in the post
I use now the unclear reason because that has a linkl to the help page explaining how to ask a good question.
I don't see where I make my own rules, I have my own judgement and that might differ among questions/tags and voters.
 
Damn! I meant to repeat the link and forgot (so struggled to find it) It has been re-opened - system works? :-) But I still feel it is not a good idea to expect much visible coding effort from people who have queries with functions that they do not know exist.
Bad layout, inconsistency, failure to provide cell references, failure to mention a formula "that did not work" and without mention of what it was - blitz, blitz, blitz.
 
9:04 PM
@pnuts But i'm happy if they at least show they have hit F1 to read the help....
 
But the example was from someone who had gained reasonable rep from a mere three questions, had accepted two answers, described his issue clearly - with both before and after examples - that is a LOT better than many OPs I see.
 
@pnuts yeah, we need to find the gems among new users...
but somedays I fail to see the wood for the trees
 
And yes, I agree, the Informed badge does make a difference (though not held by the OP in my example!). Agreed the VTC challenge is daunting and I appreciate that "the team" tends to focus on the tags where they have expertise - just not so in my example.
 
@pnuts Yeah, I had a couple of more cases were Excel stuff was wrongly migrated
which led to migration rejections
 
Oh! I've only ever seen that happen once, and that was to a Q of mine - sent from TSE to Aviation and straight back :(
 
9:10 PM
@pnuts 2 times 5 reviews lost....
 
As mentioned earlier, meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/261875/… is hardly conclusive but seems to accept most Excel questions on SO. [google-spreadsheet] seems another matter however. Tag has "Questions related to accessing a Google Spreadsheets document programmatically. If you have issues with the web application, your question would be more suitable at Web Applications Stack Exchange. "
@rene Sorry, don't follow that?
 
@pnuts it required 5 votes to migrate and 5 votes to reject it...
 
AH! Moral - leave Excel alone-ish?
But you are making inroads are you not?
Got cut off before concluding "but anything g-s seems to be accepted on SO regardless."
 
@pnuts the problem is that the majority here thinks that Excel is tool used in an office enviroment and something you use to lie about the numbers of hours you spend on a task. They don't consider it a programming tool.
Until you enter the real world and it turns out that major business decisions are based on formula's in an excel sheet... you better make sure they are right and that requires software engigneering skills.
The same goes for google-spreadsheet
 
I agree many do -often seen one or two close votes for what can be little other reason. And if that is "the regulation" lets us all abide by it. However the meta post indicates quite strongly that it is not the general (meta person) view - even makes some very convincing arguments in my opinion.
Just from my own answers (if I could ever find even them) I should be able to produce several dozen examples where a modest formula or even no formula at all has been accepted as a better solution than fixing yards (in total!) of VBA.
 
9:22 PM
@pnuts Oh, that is very true.
 
Earlier you may have been referring to: theconversation.com/…
 
@pnuts Yeah, I know an example where the dutch Tax Office used an excel sheet which managed close to 4,000,000,000 euro tax reveue yearly....
 
They'll recover that and more with a rate increase no doubt.
I'd better let you get on with doing yourself out of VTC material. Cheers!
 
@pnuts cya!
 

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