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4:00 PM
indies are the same but in their own market
 
> well polished
 
corporate sabotage? :/
 
@melak47 because you wouldn't expect google to get hacked
 
Good one.
 
think of the relative quality of their security teams
 
4:00 PM
@Griwes eh?
I think the optimization and polish Witcher games received always blew EA and Ubisoft games out of the water, at release
sure to reach their current quality enhanced editions were necessary
 
> well Polished
Helping now?
 
oooh
 
> polish Witcher games
 
@AlexM. its funny cuz theyre from poland
 
I never get !intended puns of mine
I wonder if all the books got translated from polish to english now that the game became so popular
 
4:03 PM
Jun 30 '13 at 5:57, by Etienne de Martel
@Borgleader Not my fault if they can't optimize their renderer.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Where did you interview? :)
 
@Ell A small startup
Oh hiiii Eeeelllll
long time no see!
 
Ell
Yeah :D exams finished for this year now :P
Now I can focus on the important things
like talking to you guise
 
@Borgleader I think TW2 was decently optimized, as long as you didn't touch ubersampling
a mate played it on an ancient core 2 duo with a crappy gpu on lowest details
 
I wrote to them :|
 
4:04 PM
you cant really gauge optimization if youre running everything on low =/
 
someone hold my hand now :/
I'm scared :\
 
@Borgleader no, but unoptimized games tend to run like shit on anything
 
not interested to work at intel @BartekBanachewicz ?
 
@Borgleader I went to the interview out of curiosity and got caught with the idea
 
user1804599
Time for food.
 
4:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz btw, @ThePhD was looking for someone who implemented a kd-tree the other day. idk if he still needs it but afaik you wrote one?
 
it was a quadtree
 
> No price has been announced, but 2K noted that the game is "launching as a premium title," so it seems there's no need to worry about free-to-play monetization shenanigans here.
Civ game coming to mobiles
no f2p crap
:O WANT
I was really happy when the bard's tale was released on iOS and android... that was until I saw that they asked for money for the game, then it also had microtransactions
same for darkstone
seriously, they took two really old and really good hack and slash games, and added microtransactions then sold them for the same price as their mt-less PC counterparts
 
that is not necessarily a bad thing
 
why would you pay $9 for a mictrotransaction supported game when you could pay $9 for a mt-free game on PC
and it's not like darkstone requires a gaming PC, any pentium 2 and above will run it
 
4:19 PM
because who gives a shit about whether or not you can microtransact? I will simply decide not to.
the question is how good an experience you get without microtransactions.
if you get an equivalent experience without, then it's fair game to sell for an equivalent price.
there's nothing forcing any player to buy microtransactions, at least in principle.
 
the whole web seems to say the bard's tale does not offer IAP
even though google play and iTunes say it does
> • Time-Savers—optional in-app purchases are available to pump up your Bard and save you time! (Note: All such items are attainable through normal game-play, with time and persistence, just as in the original console release.)
I guess that's fair
 
user1804599
Yum, that was good food.
 
user1804599
Delicious potatoes with chicken and a salad.
 
last winter I went to this restaurant and I was served the best grilled chicken + fries and sour cream + garlic sauce ever
I took my mum there two days ago only to find out that maybe the cook changed or something
the portions were bigger and the taste worse
<- disappointed
 
this might be an incredibly ambiguous question, but is there a way to test or measure security?
 
user1804599
4:26 PM
@AlexM. There was a great Greek restaurant in Roosendaal a few years ago but they got taken over by other cooks and went bankrupt in about two weeks.
 
@Crow the best way would be to pay people to try to hack into your system
like how google does
 
user1804599
It was terrible.
 
free moneyz for anyone hacking our browser!
 
@MartinJames: Fed Bailey?
 
but I'm poor
 
user1804599
4:28 PM
Syntax highlighting in shell is great.
 
@Puppy Oh shit....
 
kek
 
Ell
okay I give up with strophe for now :P I got single chat working but no muc yet :P
 
ugh, Google doesn't even offer a link to log out on homepage anymore?
just endless G+ shit.
 
THEY RESPONDED //cc @Ell @Jefffrey @rightfold
I forgot the CEO is in the US now
nanananana
 
4:35 PM
Who did?
 
Quantum Lab
 
Ell
awesome, good news I take it?
 
Oh, the job thingy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz huh, I thought you said Quantic Lab at first haha
 
@Ell yeah, they want another meetup to discuss finances
 
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4:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yay :3
 
QL is some Q&A and gamedev company, there's a branch in my city too
 
Ell
my goodness is this their wesbite: quantumlab.co ?
 
Tell them $100/hr or nothing. Show them who's the boss. (I'm joking future employer. You are the boss, of course).
 
I suggested they disable the fucking sound
 
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4:37 PM
(defn ^:private run []
  (doto (JFrame. "Minesweeper")
    (.setDefaultCloseOperation JFrame/EXIT_ON_CLOSE)
    (.pack)
    (.setVisible true)))
 
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Woo Swing.
 
Ell
I have no idea what they do :P
 
I was like "you know I like it personally (of course) but my friends didn't"
@Ell computer-human interactions
 
Ell
ah cool
 
@Jefffrey hey man !
 
4:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz are they serious - they get by on having an anti-depression app :D?
 
a random guy on a forum says he saw one of these outside and asks if it's a fighter aircraft
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz So did they let you in?
 
the crisis in ukraine makes even more idiots surface
 
@AlexM. Depends on the time frame. As of WWI, that might have at least come close to qualifying. By WW II, it would clearly have been obsolete as a fighter. In a war-zone today, it would be a target (and not even a challenging one).
 
I replied with "I think so. It looks similar to this one:"
@JerryCoffin I think it would have failed in WW1 too, as it is a plane designed for pesticide spreading, traveling on short distances and stuff like that
not something designed to carry weapons
 
5:01 PM
@AlexM. Like mustard gas?
Chemical weapons in World War I were primarily used to demoralize, injure, and kill entrenched defenders, against whom the indiscriminate and generally slow-moving or static nature of gas clouds would be most effective. The types of weapons employed ranged from disabling chemicals, such as tear gas and the severe mustard gas, to lethal agents like phosgene and chlorine. This chemical warfare was a major component of the first global war and first total war of the 20th century. The killing capacity of gas was limited, with four percent of combat deaths caused by gas. Gas was unlike most ot...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wrong dispersal properties.
 
I don't think mustard gas carrying planes are fighter planes
at most they could be considered some sort of tactical bombing planes I guess
 
@AlexM. That's cool
@AlexM. lol
@AlexM. yeah
 
so is there a way to do general purpose curve fitting? As in, the specifics of the curve aren't known and it is updating on a fairly regular basis
 
speaking of fighter planes, I thought about getting this game, as it is considered one of the best simulators ever
IL-2 Sturmovik (Ил-2 Штурмовик) is a 2001 World War II combat flight simulator video game and is the first installment in the IL-2 Sturmovik series. The release focused on the air battles of the Eastern Front. It was named after the Soviet Ilyushin Il-2 ground-attack fighter, which played a prominent role in this theatre and is the single most produced military aircraft design to date. Along with its sequels, IL-2 Sturmovik is considered one of the leading World War II flight simulators. Gameplay The game featured 31 flyable planes and additional 40 non-flyable planes (available as o...
but I so don't like WW2 planes that much :\
the only modern fighter plane simulator that I know of is HAWX but that's hardly a true sim
 
5:20 PM
welp, got it anyway
 
hmm FTL advanced edition £2.79
 
together with Silent Hunter III
 
FTL's a pretty fun rougelike
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes goes great on Ham bombs
 
What is a "rougelike"? Do you get to put on stockings and whip people?
 
5:23 PM
I wonder what one must do to to get hired at a company like Lockheed Martin to work on fighter jet software stuff
 
people don't like it if you say things are roguelikes
rougelike is safer
 
what kind of specialization does that require
are there schools for it
anything military looks so unreachable, except for becoming a grunt
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit serious question?
 
Xeo
 
it requires security clearance
 
5:24 PM
@SamDeHaan I see :P
 
Xeo
This song is amazing.
 
@thecoshman Yes
 
@ThePhD on 2nd interview
@ScarletAmaranth not really
 
@BartekBanachewicz suck up
@SamDeHaan meh, getting cleared is not that big a deal
unless you've murdered somebody or sold state secrets to the French
well, that's as in the UK at least. to be fair I can imagine the US system being "interesting"
 
it's not that it's terrible difficult to be cleared
 
5:26 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Random levels and perma-death are the two key aspects. Random items are a key feature often too, random as in "blue potion" could have any effect each run through, until you try it, then you know what it is. Generally would be dungeon crawlers, usually with 'floors'. Tend to have rather short play time, but great replay.
 
but once you have it it sticks around
 
@AlexM. F-22 Raptor but probably same issue
 
so it's more about getting it from somewhere, and then leveraging it into the bigger jobs
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit heh
 
yes
@thecoshman No, that's roguelikes.
 
5:27 PM
probably because nobody plays fighter plane sims anymore
everyone is crazy about these german simulators
 
I'm beginning to hate endianness
 
like street cleaning simulator
and farming simulator
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah...
 
and forklift simulator
 
@thecoshman LRIO wanted to know about rougelikes
 
5:27 PM
@thecoshman Right, well, it isn't what I was asking about.
@SamDeHaan This feels particularly mean when it's cosh on the other end, because cosh can't spell for shit :P
still fun though
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o_0
 
someone should make a simulator simulator which would be like indie game simulator except you'd only work on simulators
 
I dont get this trend of purposefully mistyping rogue as rouge =/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ooooh! it's what them racist things is it!
 
@Borgleader at least I've discovered that it's intentional
 
Xeo
5:30 PM
This band is good.
 
it's great
Feb 3 at 10:38, by Bartek Banachewicz
@jalf I'd quoute you a psychostick song, sec
 
man, one of my mates finished all of his exams already with 9/10 and 10/10 because his gf forced him to study, and she was all ultra proud of him today
I bet he got extra love because of his achievements too
what a woman
 
@AlexM. so what your saying is, your mate has a dominatrix gf?
 
not yet
sounds like she's working up to it
 
meanwhile, I'm sending mails to the profs asking them if I have to show the homework I didn't do during the semester, when I'll be taking the exams in the 2nd session
because I was not accepted in the first
because I didn't do any assignments
@Borgleader I bet she is
when I see her she's always calm, speaks rarely and when she does it makes sense and is to the point; she's also very nice overall
perfect material for a monster in bed
 
5:35 PM
ah
 
@AlexM. you sound jealous
 
that £2.74 I made selling useless CS:GO stuff?
it's a nice cover for £2.79 for FTL: AD.
 
@Borgleader a bit
 
@Puppy AD?
 
@Puppy Is it worth getting FTL:AD if I already have FTL?
 
5:36 PM
I have no idea.
 
it's freeeeee, Borg
 
and it's AE, you're right- advanced edition.
 
@SamDeHaan Ah so if I had FTL they upgraded me to AE?
 
@Borgleader should be
 
coolios
 
5:37 PM
fuck... I said to myself "ok, fuck writing my own parser for this stupid format, I'll just use this crappy C lib", then that stupid lib depends on not one but two C jpeg libraries...
 
what format are you trying to read?
 
WWI looks so extra unfun than subsequent wars
 
@Borgleader GRIB2
 
@Borgleader yeah, totally
 
at least nowadays it's all about nukes, biological weapons and quick bombing runs
 
5:39 PM
Hacking is a gamebreaker
 
you die fast, not in a trench full of mud
 
especially on boss stage, when you can just hack the fucking uber-rocket launcher
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well I just clicked on FTL AE (on the front page) and it says I have it so :) seems i got a free upgrade like @SamDeHaan said
 
it is free
I had to pay twice for the iPad version tho :/
but it's rather nice on the ipad
the only real bummer is that it doesn't sync progress from steam
 
puppy you already missed it
 
5:41 PM
user image
6
 
i know a few people who made $200+ flipping the tokens that let you change teams
that's where the real money was supposedly
 
this is a fucking sick loop
 
@Borgleader VB is all about hacking m8
it natively supports IP tracking
 
@AlexM. inb4 CSI video
 
nobody important knows this, that's why there's still hacking going around
random hacker groups get caught but it's really accountants writing VBA that do the serious damage
 
I had lunch here once.
Hi.
 
So I have a grammar for expressions, and one for statements. I wonder what I should call the one for functions, classes, enums, namespaces and imports. =/
 
6:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes nice
 
hmm
do I want to start with the advanced edition content right away?
 
Maybe "modulegrammar" would do
 
@Puppy yes
@Puppy I mean have you played ftl at all?
 
no
 
6:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hi.
 
this is probably a very vague questions, but if you're searching on a website, how does it determine relevance of the results to sort?
 
@Crow that depends on the site
ill bet they all do it differently
 
oh god
he's still here?
 
I'm sad. I miss getting up at 3am to go on a three-hour drive to get on a boat at sunrise and spend the day fishing until sunset and stopping for lunch in rocky formations in the middle of a lake and then having another three-hour drive back home before falling asleep still with the phantom feeling of the boat rocking.
 
Xeo
Hm, I should get some sleeves for these Love Letter cards
too bad they're only sold in 100-sleeve packs
 
6:13 PM
What size?
 
Xeo
63 x 88
standard size
 
Those are very use to use elsewhere.
 
evening
 
Xeo
I plan to pick up Shadow Hunters at some point, so they will come in handy anyways, I think.
 
@Xeo IMO FFG sleeves are better than Mayday.
I have Maydays and they're quite sucky.
 
6:16 PM
@Xeo sorry, but with that avatar you look like rightfold :V
 
Xeo
Colourblind? Mine's blue, his is purple
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I only ever used Ultra Pro sleeves for my TCG cards
 
you can fly the Romanian IAR-80 in IL-2, neat
it looks like a giant dildo with wings
 
Xeo
Hm, Shadow Hunters also has 63 x 88 sized cards
 
> The IAR 80 was a Romanian World War II low-wing, monoplane, all-metal monocoque fighter and ground-attack aircraft.
monocoque, more like monocock
 
@Xeo oh, didn't know he also changed his avatar. yours reminds me of the previous one with a pony or something
 
6:18 PM
@AlexM. Penises on the mind, Alex?
 
Xeo
rightfold, The Kingdom of the Netherlands
5.7k 2 11 37
 
@Xeo go back to the anime one lol
wait... wtf
what happened to rightfolds pony thing
 
@Xeo I've only bought Ultra Pro opaques so I dunno how good their clears are.
 
Xeo
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Err, this is also an "anime one"
 
@crasic no, only in my pants
 
6:18 PM
eh i mean the guy ....
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I planned on getting opaque ones anyways
 
so Heroku is down
 
Xeo
since I wanna colour-code the Shadow Hunter cards (black, white, green)
 
someone screwed up ++
 
@Xeo yes, I see it. Previously he had something else. nvm :)
 
Xeo
6:19 PM
But the "normal sized" Ultra Pro sleeves are 66 x 91 now. Guess that will have to do
 
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@Xeo What a pretty user.
 
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@BartoszKP ICE CUBE
 
eh, apparently I only have to take the written exam for the networking course, I don't have to also do the past assignments
 
@rightfold lol, right. blue anyway it was
 
but I have to get a 6+ instead of a 5 to pass
THAT WORKS FOR ME, YAY
 
Xeo
6:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Know any appropriate online shop besides Amazon?
 
No game shop nearby?
 
Everning.
 
Xeo
I don't think so
Well, we have a Game Stop at the CentrO
but I think that's it
 
user1804599
eBay
 
Game stop is terrible.
 
6:24 PM
Etymology of sci-fi terms: could be good
 
A friend of mine works in a Game Stop store and told me never to give or buy second-hand games; because they are undervalued and overpriced respectively.
 
@thecoshman lol, "fuck sake" :D
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's nifty
 
that's a good pick up line for the chicks selling sake at the japanese restaurant nearby
 
Xeo
6:25 PM
Nothing really "close" though :(
 
"Do you have any fuck sake?"
 
: D
 
user1804599
@thecoshman you already linked that.
 
Xeo
Though I'll probably have to make a trip to Duisburg anyways, because of the fucking customs
 
user1804599
6:26 PM
costumes
 
@Xeo Well, Amazon is terrible for sleeves IME.
Search is horrible, and the inventory comes mostly from lousy third-parties.
 
Xeo
They have the Ultra Pros in stock
But that's it
Oh, Fantasy Flight are those with the fancy backs
I also used those before
 
@Xeo Ultra Pro also has that sort of thing.
lol, Ultra Pro stores within 2000 miles of you.
(I hope that random address is not coincidentally yours)
 
Xeo
lol, nah
 
¬_¬ I meant to link to this (much more interesting)
 
user3010322
6:33 PM
1.17549435e-038 < 0.000000
 
I really don't get this old C/C++ code. A guy writes 1000-lines long cluster-fucks like int r = a*5/3600-grt_step( c,b,y1-y0,get_time( x)>3?3:x)) and still consistently adds this odd space after ( in function calls. Wtf?
 
user3010322
Fuck.
 
user3010322
std::numeric_limits<T>::min() returns the lowest positive value.
 
Sam
Hi guys... !!
 
user3010322
Also I'm sitting in New Employee Orientation being bored as fuck.
 
6:34 PM
@ThePhD At Microsoft?
 
Xeo
I also have these weird 5.7 x 8.7 cards here, from Cosmic Empires
 
user3010322
Building 92.
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Yep.
 
user3010322
Going to sneak away from NEO
 
user3010322
6:37 PM
Get my badge earlier than everyone else
 
anyone watching football?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think they're actually 57 not 56 :/
 
Well, there's 57x89 above.
Cosmic Empires isn't listed anywhere though.
 
Xeo
Yeah
Same for Shadow Hunters...
Meh, I'll just get some Ultra Pro sleeves, that should be fine
Aaaand the matte ones are only available as a Plus Product
which means I need to get 15.5eur worth of stuff together to buy them
 
@Borgleader actually I was just being stupid, what I was thinking of was indexing in a database
 
user1804599
6:48 PM
@BartoszKP idiot
 
:@
 
user1804599
There is no such thing as “C/C++ code.” You are obviously an idiot.
 
There is
Code full of structural programming and C idioms, used with some C++ features, and compiled in a C++ project with C++ compiler. I think that's what this term commonly is used to describe.
 
@Crow unless you give it an order, the order returned is not guaranteed to be consistent between queries.
 
6:52 PM
@FredOverflow Yet another thing I have to watch, I've had this opened in a tab for a while
 
@SamDeHaan I don't know what you mean by that.
 
^ Baby Steps OP
It's a great one.
 
user1804599
 
Xeo
> EUR 27,98 + EUR 23,70 Versandkosten
T_T
 
Sam
ok guys... time to leave...
 
6:58 PM
@Xeo What are you shopping for?
 
Xeo
Man. I can't believe I've spent almost all my salary this month.
Wtf happened
 
ah shit
 
great, the cat decided to pee over the side of her tray ¬_¬
 
I lost two good crewmembers to a hull breach :(
game didn't even mention that's what it was.
 

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