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12:00 AM
Maybe I misunderstood here.
 
@BaummitAugen How can you range check a vector at compile time? A vector is a runtime-sized container.
Ok, I've read your question.
 
Dependent typing :v
 
@Jefffrey I only wanted to toggle the range check at compile time, i.e. range checked vector for debug builds and no range check for release.
Stroustrup solved that by inheriting from std::vector and overwriting operator[].
Better solution was posted as answer of this:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24246017/compile-time-triggered-range-check-for-stdvector
 
All modern stdlib implementations have range checking in debug
 
do people who only do the arts and design for 3D graphics have to have much knowledge of the maths?
 
12:05 AM
phew, managed to play both battlestar galactica and game of thrones in one day.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes, this is the answer I accepted for my posted question. I still wonder if there is a stronger reason against inheriting from std::vector than the constructor poblem.
 
There's no 'constructor problem'
There are no virtual ctors
 
@CatPlusPlus *Destructor
 
It's not designed for inheritance therefore you don't inherit from it
 
@CatPlusPlus But why? What kind of bad things can happen?
 
12:10 AM
@BaummitAugen Let's start with "binding to base class references"
 
Inherited types won't be destructed properly, what else do you want
 
@CatPlusPlus Nothing, it is a good enough reason against it. Just wondered if anything worse could happen.
 
Also, the entire inheritance business is pointless, since YourVector yv; std::vector<int>& vec = yv; vec.resize(20); won't call YourVector::resize, but the std::vector<int> one.
 
@milleniumbug I already got that it would be bad to pass the derived vector instead of std::vector. I would not have derived for runtime polymorphic behavior, just for overriding operator[] in my code.
 
new syntax proposal
class NewVector : typedef std::vector<int> {};
That would do the same as class NewVector : public std::vector<int> {};, except no binding to base class references
 
12:22 AM
The primary reason to inherit is to override one or more virtual functions, so your class can be substituted for the base, so code written to work with a pointer or reference to an object of the base class can also work with your derived class. In the case of std::vector, there aren't any virtual functions to override.
 
@milleniumbug It's called private inheritance, otherwise known as composition
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@CatPlusPlus Private inheritance doesn't do using Base::**everything**; by default.
 
Hm.
I still do not get what would be worth the UB on destruction problem, but I guess I just won't use it and someday understand what Lightness meant with here comment.
 
@milleniumbug Neither does public inheritance.
 
Maybe she just was pedantic, does seem reasonable.
 
12:30 AM
Ok, ok, I get it, I'm in the pedant room. Yeah, public doesn't either, for constructors.
using Base::**everything except constructors and methods declared in the Derived**;
 
Well, going to sleep now.
Good night.
 
The Chicago Bulls logo flipped upside-down looks like a robot reading a book. http://t.co/0eflRkWhXP
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I see a robot ass fucking something.
 
0.0
 
12:43 AM
Pareidolia ( ) is a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant, a form of apophenia. Common examples include seeing images of animals or faces in clouds, the man in the moon or the Moon rabbit, and hearing hidden messages on records when played in reverse. The word comes from the Greek words ' (παρά, "beside, alongside, instead") in this context meaning something faulty, wrong, instead of; and the noun (εἴδωλον "image, form, shape") the diminutive of eidos. Pareidolia is a type of apophenia, seeing patterns i...
 
Good evening, you massive twats.
 
sup cockface
 
Hi shithead.
 
evening
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit so massive in fact that you seem to be orbiting us
 
12:46 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hello, my favorite vagina.
 
Don't tell Mrs. de Martel.
 
@EtiennedeMartel youre not fooling aanyone, that's rightfold's
 
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Q: How to QUIT Permanently from stackoverflow.com-" The Over Flow Q&A Policies"

user1542462 i was active here since 2012.Initially i thought that this is a place where any programming Lerner can ask questions to get most helpful responses with kindness in a democratic environment that ensures free speech for all learners no matter how naive they are.I am network programming learner an...

dafuq
 
> Also please don't advice me to go for metaoverflow or other sections Just tell how to delete my acount.Please let us be human first.
 
12:51 AM
Here since 2012 and in all that time you never realised that this is not a help site. Thanks for your "advices", though; it's great to have yet another baseless nerdrage rant to completely ignore. <3 — Lightness Races in Orbit 48 secs ago
 
@Jefffrey Clearly biased against the robot to an unacceptable degree!
 
Actually, the idea of deleting mindnumbingly ignorant rubbish is quite good; let's start with this post. — Lightness Races in Orbit 9 secs ago
\o/
anndddd it's gone
my work here is done
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...for now!
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah; something will come up large sigh
I'm actually quite pleased that my delete vote cast just after posting that comment happened to be the final trigger. It worked out rather well.
 
@JerryCoffin hehe
 
12:54 AM
 
the unrobot
@Borgleader Generally excellent, but the acting isn't good enough that the "interviewees" actually seem like interviewees, which breaks the suspense of disbelief just a little too much for me to immerse.
 
That's a game IIRC.
 
You should definitely play it if you haven't already
 
I don't have the necessary hardware I believe.
 
1:02 AM
What if I have? Then I shouldn't?
you're such a hardward
 
Hardward university
 
How do you not have the hardware
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I never said that... All I said is if you havent you should. I said nothing about those who already have.
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually it's just that I have a Mac.
 
> Recommended:
OS: Windows 7 or Windows 8
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 or Intel Core 2 Quad or better
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 5850
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Hard Drive: 17 GB available space
Sound Card: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound device
 
1:05 AM
Macs are terrible at gaming, even if it was possible to port somehow.
 
Why do you have a mac
Dumbo
Also you can just run Windows on that
 
Because it didn't give me any problem in the last 4/5 years.
 
Macs haven't been a different hardware since forever
And OSX is shit anyway
 
Why?
 
@Borgleader I still need to finish Human Revolution
 
1:07 AM
tsk tsk tsk
 
Because. You can look up OSX in the transcript
 
> Sound Card: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound device
 
Nothing interesting on Steam again
 
Aw man, I don't know, really.
 
Well, Monaco in flash for nothing so maybe that
I need a configuration language
It's hard to express some interpolation stuff in JSON :/
 
1:09 AM
I got FC3 and Bioshock Infinite so far (for like 7.5$ each)
 
Man, why so late?
 
Urgh, fuck buying games on release, so not worth it
 
Because its cheaper. Plus I have a long ass list of games to play.
 
They've been so underwhelming in the recent years
 
@CatPlusPlus Can't find anything.
Except you ranting that OSX is terrible, it sucks, etc...
May 29 at 20:00, by Cat Plus Plus
Why? Because OSX users are idiots
lol
 
1:15 AM
I still can't find a copy of Marvel's Agent Carter one-shot -.-
 
OSX is Apple, terrible UI/UX (lol global menu and dock and not quitting on last window close and reversed mouse wheel and retarded default keybindings and iTunes and a lot of other things that accumulate like crazy and ejecting CDs by dragging them onto Trash will never cease to be funny), terrible API (lol objc),
impossible to cross-compile for and a general pain in the ass to support, develop and test as a target (HAHA NO VMS BECAUSE WE'RE APPLE AND WE DEMAND YOU BUY OUR SHITTY BRANDED HARDWARE). Newline brought to you by Stupid Chat Restrictions That Make No Goddamn Sense (tm)
 
reversed mouse wheel? death to them
 
tell us how you really feel
 
I have no idea who thought about that
But he was utterly retarded
Scrolling wheel down? WELL LETS SCROLL THE CONTENTS UP WHY NOT
 
Thankfully there's a switch for that (lol why who wants that jesus christ), but that it's a default fucking value is inexcusable
 
I think you got that the wrong way around actually
 
Well you know what I mean, it works opposite than every other thing in the existence
Because Apple
 
yeah
it sounds more comedic the way you said it, even though it's technically backwards
so np
 
Also Page Up scrolls windows, but doesn't move the cursor
 
1:25 AM
btw best theme ever:
 
I'll leave directions out maybe :v
 
hello
 
So you scroll, scroll, get to the line you want, and then you accidentally press arrows or something and suddenly you're back where you were
Who why what the fuck
Also I think Home goes to the top of the file instead of beginning of line? I don't really remember, but something like that was happening too
Apple fucking UX masters
See what you did @Jefffrey you made me think about this broken piece of shit that hardly deserves to be called an OS
 
What you "global menu" is the application menu. It makes a lot more sense than duplicating it on every single window. Not quitting on last window close is often something you can toggle, and as I said OS X is application oriented, not window oriented. iTunes is not an argument and I actually like it (you are probably referring to the synchronization stuff). Reverse mouse wheel is not important; you can pick it up in less than 30 seconds and it's really not a problem.
 
1:30 AM
No, it doesn't make a lot more sense
 
I can guess the reason for the inverse scroll is because with touch pads it make more sense to throw the page up (and therefore see it scrolling down).
 
Because it's part of the application as you said yourself, not the goddamn desktop
You're forced to look out of context to find it
 
@CatPlusPlus The top menu has nothing to do with the desktop, it refers to the application in focus.
 
Is it at least replicated on multiple monitors?
 
I don't have multiple monitors.
 
1:32 AM
But still, it's baaaad, because application window might not be anywhere near it
And yet you're forced to look there, not at the application you're using
iTunes is an argument, because you have to use it when you're developing shit, one way or another
 
yeah, the top bar being far away from the current window is rather inconvenient for me also
 
And it's shit, like most things Apple vomits out
 
Because Apple. Of course.
 
Reverse mouse wheel is a problem, because it's counterintuitive and also COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING FOR NO GODDAMN REASON AT ALL
 
It's a non-issue.
 
1:34 AM
Also you can't justify design issues with "it's designed that way" what the fuck
 
@CatPlusPlus Unless you are brain dead you can pick the difference up in 2 tries.
 
@CatPlusPlus How did I do that?
 
@CatPlusPlus "It doesn't matter if it's bad: you can cope with it"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yup <3
 
1:35 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It works good enough!!!!!!!
 
lol
 
This application always closes when you right click in the upper area but it's okay, you can learn it in 20 seconds and just remember about it
 
It's not about working good or bad. It about working in a different way than you might expect.
 
Yeah, that's what we call UX, and that's why it's bad
 
@Jefffrey aka unintuitive. Well put.
 
1:36 AM
:cripes:
 
It's more intuitive to me the way Apple does it, but anyway...
 
Why
What's more intuitive about it
 
/popcorn
 
What's the analogy here
 
SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
Good night.
 
1:37 AM
I move my finger towards me, so the thing should go in the opposite way??
@R.MartinhoFernandes OH GOD I HATE THOSE BOARDS
 
Guess you didn't play flight simulators much ;)
 
If you use a touch pad (like I do) and you move stuff up (by moving your hands from the bottom up) makes them disappear on the top (therefore scrolling down). It's not hard to graps.
I'm a terrible teacher, but FFS are you seriously not getting it?
 
Well that makes no sense
Plane analogy I could get maybe sorta somewhat BUT it's still an issue of doing things different than everyone else for no reason
And it's annoying
 
It's not for me.
 
1:41 AM
cat's annoyed so we all should be annoyed
 
And it's "solvable" by ticking a box in the settings.
UHEEEE I PREFER MY SCROLL SETTINGS :,,,( WHY APPLE WHY
It's not an argument, it's a preference. And no, "everybody else is doing it this way" it's just... nothing.
 
:cripes:
 
omg function returning int with infinite loop in it on CL gives warning about unreachable code. Removing the returns gives error on GCC :|
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@BartoszKP Silence it
 
@CatPlusPlus I can't silence unreachable code warning - this one might be useful sometimes
 
1:45 AM
#pragma push/pop
 
oh, yeah
good idea
 
Just hope it's not a template.
It's useless there.
 
no, it's C code trying to be like C++, and it's probably older then we all together
anyway, 100+ warnings fixed, 500+ to go, time for sleep :V goodnight!
 
ok now I've watched Agent Carter and it's ace
 
Plane analogy is broken for non-planes.
 
1:49 AM
must... learn... blender... but so stupid...
 
A terrible thing about Mac OS X is OpenGL support. IIRC they began supporting 4.0+ (from 2.x) in last year's version. Terrible.
 
Also, I want my scrolling reversed on Android :)
That is, reverse to the original Android setting.
 
iTunes synchronization with iPhone and whatever device is just retarded. For example when I do my annual reset on the mac I am unable to just synchronize my phone's music with the "new" mac (because he is already "in love" with the "old" instance).
I don't like iPhoto, but that might be just me.
 
> iTunes is retarded
FTFY
 
1:54 AM
iPhoto is awful
 
Well, once devices are synchronized I never had any problems, and I actually like how you can easily select the subset of songs you want to move to/synchronize with the iPhone or not.
 
The worst of the worst is Xcode. It eclipses Eclipse's shittiness
 
I don't like XCode, but apparently everyone else loves it.
 
Why be good at design and programming if you've got an army of rabid fanboys who will eat up every turd you give them
 
I don't like the way Apple adverts or behaves in general, as a company.
I'm probably forgetting something, but my point is: their products just live forever and never break. I don't know how they do it and I don't care. From my experience having a computer for almost 5 years and a phone of 4 years that never had any issues whatsoever is what I like of Apple. I've used Windows for all my life and it's nowhere near the stability of a mac IMHO.
 
Then again, I'm not a power user like most of you so I'm definitely missing something.
 
@CatPlusPlus Dem puns.
 
That's not a pun
 
And I've just realized my argument for liking Macs is the same PHP devs use to justify PHP existence: it just works.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I counter your girl with a tattoo with this girl with a tattoo
 
2:04 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit who's that?
 
@Jefffrey ...except when it doesn't.
 
@Code-Apprentice Lena Meyer-Landrut
@Jefffrey +badly
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Just fine on my machine :)
 
I know the majority opinion on parenting SE is against phsyical discipline, but somebody needs a beating here, and its not the children. — n00b Jun 16 at 21:03
haha
 
2:09 AM
...I'm shocked. Someone actually used a[i] = i + a[i++] in real code.
 
> This is a major problem, as your kids need to look up to you as an authority figure, and that will be very difficult if she's constantly undercutting your authority.
Is authority still considered healthy?
 
You all need to listen to this:
@Jefffrey Authority of parents over young children? Healthy. Um, yes. Yes, it is.
 
@Jefffrey How is he supposed to raise his children if they won't listen to him because he has no authority over them (because of his MIL)?
 
Lately there seems to be a growing notion that "all authority is bad", and the result is a generation of entitled, stuck-up fuckwits who fail to follow basic rules and are just generally a bunch of fucking cunts.
 
And let's be clear here he doesn't mean authority as in military regimen.
 
2:14 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's a logical fallacy, do I have to look it up?
 
Says every generation ever
 
@Jefffrey What? No it isn't.
 
then yes I have to look it up
 
@CatPlusPlus It's been worse this time due to the prevalence of technology to make life easier, a growth in liberal politics in the west over the last 20-30 years, and a number of other factors.
@Jefffrey Just because I asserted a cause-and-effect relation doesn't automatically mean I committed a logical fallacy.
 
@Jefffrey Hmm....this spring I replaced (the guts of) my desktop machine. It was just under 8 years old when I replaced it. It had run Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8. In over 7 years, I think it may have crashed 3 times, all of them apparently from an even older sound card (and to the best of my recollection it never crashed again after I removed that). In the same period of time, my wife has had two macs and two or three iPhones--exactly one of which still works.
 
2:18 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, not that one. The one that says something on beginning with "most things are x" while not having the proof that "most" things are like that. Or something.
Also too much authority actually leads people to rebel, I believe.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Relaxing.
@JerryCoffin It depends, yes.
 
@Jefffrey the texas sharpshooter?
 
that might be the one, yes
 
closest i could find
 
@Jefffrey Nobody's claiming a parent should be a despot, but of course they need to hold some authority.
 
@Jefffrey At least from what I've seen, it's not a matter of too much authority. It's usually a matter of discipline applied inconsistently--lax sometimes, excessively harsh other times. I'd point out, however, that if you're going to place blame, it usually belongs squarely with the parents. In a typical case, they're too lazy to apply discipline most of the time, then when the kids get too out of hand, they react out of anger.
 
2:22 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "of course", I would be so sure. I've read few interesting books on how authority is bad for teaching anything.
 
anybody doing anything fun?
 
@Jefffrey We must be talking at cross-purposes, because I fail to believe that somebody like you actually thinks a parent should have zero authority over their children.
@Mikhail no i'm here
@JerryCoffin chav generation came from that :(
now that lot are having kids and I despair at how they'll turn out
 
Something along the lines that if you, as the teacher, put yourself at the same level of the "student" and you respect him, you are likely to receive that respect back and therefore establish a trust line with him/her.
 
The relationship between a 16 year old student and a school teacher is not in any way the same as the relationship between a five year old and his/her mum and dad.
 
One was Tolstoj, that did some experimental teaching in a libertarian school created by him. And the other was an english guy in a Summerschool school or something.
 
2:28 AM
Plus the kinda kids who are sent to those schools are sent there by a certain type of parent who have already instilled a certain manner of behaviour in their children. You can't say it's just down to the school.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's about "giving respect/receiving respect", which can be applied to any relationship.
 
@Jefffrey Yes, and the word for expecting your child to have respect for you as parents is "authority".
 
I don't think so.
 
Then I sincerely hope you never have children
 
The other big/common problem I see is that parents often do a poor job of loosening control over time. A small baby needs nearly constant supervision just to stay healthy at all. A well-raised 16 year-old can be nearly completely independent. For better or worse, however, some parents treat (for example) teenagers as if they were still 6 years old (or so).
 
2:29 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit somebody like me?
 
@Jefffrey An intelligent and reasonable person
 
@JerryCoffin I know what you mean.
 
i.e. not a chav
@JerryCoffin Sometimes that can last well into the 30s, even!
(Further, in extreme cases)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Unfortunately, quite true.
 
innit
right, winter is coming, sun is coming too, birds are singing
 
2:31 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know it's not all roses and shit. I just said that those books were very interesting, at least for me. They give you a whole different perspective on the matter of teaching (mainly in schools tbh).
 
don't know why you keep going on about teaching
@BartoszKP not surprising, since that's UB
 
user3010322
Greetings from Seattle!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, because it fascinates me and I have some controversial opinions about it, which I always like to bring out. Also because I've based my college thesis on how the current school system sucks.
 
@ThePhD rut roh
 
user3010322
tesis
 
2:34 AM
I do think children generally learn best by example, so children should be treated with respect. That doesn't mean surrendering authority, but does mean being polite to them, giving them reasonable choices when possible, etc.
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm preparing my e-mail to STL to infiltrate the compiler team. :D
 
@JerryCoffin Yes, this is what I'm talking about.
I associate "authority" with much more discipline than you guys do, prolly.
 
@Jefffrey sounds like you equate "authority" with some sort of totalitarian regime, holding children at gunpoint until they finish their greens.
 
Image not found
 
Eh.
 
2:36 AM
@chmod711telkitty look harder
nn
 
@Jefffrey I suspect some of it depends on your definition of "discipline". Many equate discipline with punishment, but I don't think that's accurate at all (or at least it doesn't have to be accurate).
 
Yes, when I was a kid I used to see most of my "friend" at that time being treated in extremely diminishing ways just because they did a small mistakes. I remember watching them and feeling bad for them. That's the reason I don't like the word "authority".
On the other hand my dad was quite fair on me. I remember discussing with him if the other parents were right or wrong on treating them that way.
tl;dr: I have had bad examples with authority.
 
what is "tl;dr"?
 
@Jefffrey That doesn't sound like authority or discipline to me. Discipline should be about leading. A child making a mistake is not a reason (in itself) for punishment. First you need to figure out what led to the mistake, and lead them toward behavior that will prevent its recurrence. Real punishment should normally be reserved for cases of intentional bad behavior, or cases of fairly clear-cut negligence.
@Code-Apprentice "too long; didn't read" (i.e., what follows is a short summary for the lazy).
 
s/most of my "friend"/most of my "friends"/
s/they did a small mistakes/they did small mistakes/
 
2:45 AM
@Jefffrey s/did/made/
 
These are signs that I should go to bed.
 
@JerryCoffin tnx
 
@JerryCoffin I agree.
 
3:12 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you meant it, thanks, by the way.
Good night everyone.
 
user3010322
3:47 AM
box.encase( something )
 
user3010322
What would you expect that function to do?
 
send me a crate by UPS
 
user3010322
Actually, I think I have the name box.enclose( something );
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Works for me. :D
 
user3010322
I need to make a namespace unionable
 
user3010322
3:53 AM
So I can take all my RBoundingBox and RVector3 etc. classes and put them in there under their regular BoundingBox and Vector3 names and such.
 
Does this mean I should create a pullrequest with a branch if it is even possible.
 
4:36 AM
I don't know how to use CodePlex but it's easy on GitHub and the CLI.
unless you mean you want to give them the newly created branch, then I don't know how to do that on GitHub but I know how to do that with the CLI.
 
user3010322
I want to work on sol
 
user3010322
But my KdTree implementation needs help.
 
user3010322
I'm too disheartened to work on sol though since I can't make VC++ play nice. :(
 
@Rapptz I want to get the code in the repo, just have no idea if I'm supposed to create the branch. Guess I'll ask him in a couple of days.
 
you want to get your code in their repository?
 
4:47 AM
yeah
so they can flame it
 
just fork it, create a new branch, and send a PR?
I would think CodePlex does the other stuff for you
 
ok, sounds right
what is the difference between a fork and a clone any way?
Say I clone first, do some stuff and then decide that I want to make a pr?
 
cloning is when you make a local copy
fork is when you make a copy on the remote
I think to make a PR you need to have a copy on the remote, i.e. a fork
 
ok, makes sesne
 
so you fork it, clone the fork, work on it, then send the PR
 
4:51 AM
prolly possible to do clone > work on clone > fork > pr to fork
 
do you have a local working copy already?
 
yeah, have not done much with it though
Is Geometry a better name than Spatial btw?
 
user3010322
Boost uses Geometry
 
5:17 AM
How can people post this crap with WYSIWYG and expect their question to be answered?
 
@JohanLarsson Fork is server-side clone with bonus stuff
Like marking the repo as a fork and letting you create PRs
 
ok, I clicked fork now :)
 
If you have a local clone then just change the remote and push to the fork
 
ty ty
do you use T4 much?
 
I've used it once for binding generation
 
5:35 AM
I'm cleaning my bookmarks and apparently I had a TODO list on some thing
In 2008
 
user3010322
Nice.
 
Well gotta give them credit for keeping this shit, since apparently the service semi-shutdown some time ago
 
5:58 AM
all my gists suddenly have a bunch of newlines in the beginning
 
They fucked up line alignment it seems
line-height is too small
 
 
2 hours later…
morning
balls.
I came up with something I needed to fix, wrote "Fix " in my todo.txt epic project management, then promptly forgot what needed fixing.
 
7:49 AM
Good management
 
Consider using an issue tracker.
It's kinda built-in to bitbucket.
 
woah there @Rapptz it took us over a year to get him to start testing his code.
 
It's been 4 years. :s
Why doesn't Bitbucket have code search yet?
 
the only good thing about BB is free private repos
 
@Rapptz I don't really see how that doesn't devolve to the same thing when there's only me working on the project.
 
7:54 AM
You can automatically close issues through commit messages. Plus you can write a description and a title which tends to be a little bit more detailed
 
hm
 
isn't your work public though?
 
any c# professional hea?
 
You are aware this is a C++ room right?
 
7:58 AM
@thecoshman Yep
 
ya i m
 
@Puppy then screw BB :P
C++ != C#
 
I prefer BB.
 
any?
 

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