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12:00 PM
well, it was bent a bit further than I intended anyway, I'm perfectly happy to live and let live.
 
not a great deal anymore!
 
druggy innit
it's still working?
 
yep
 
anyone here good with tfs?
 
12:06 PM
gdgd
Moore's Law: "You wrote your code and it was slow, but then by the time you shipped it was fast." -- Bartosz Milewski @cppnow
 
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Q: Should a chatroom allow an outsider to decide what's appropriate and what is not?

chmod 711 telkittyFrom my observation, each chatroom has its own personality. Just like different community have different characteristics. Personally I find it absurd to allow an outsider to decide on what is appropriate for a chatroom and what's not. And even if you are a regular in a community comprising of 10...

 
I doubt we will ever move away from here. Because 1) We are lazy. 2) We are unorganized. 3) SO.chat is better than what we are able to admit.
 
sbi
So this room has annoyed the zealots. Again. Shakes head. I love you guys.
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12:10 PM
it's all my fault
I'm sure that shocks and surprises you.
 
sbi
Me? C'mon. If I'm surprised, then that you can be funny and make sarcastic statements.
Well, well, now I am a room owner again. And @Shog9 said, owners are moderators. What am I supposed to moderate then?
 
@chmod711telkitty you have a very special talent for turning things upside down
 
(that pinning wasn't me)
 
and more generally, how are you supposed to moderate it?
 
Does that imply Mysticial or Jerry are lurking...?
 
Xeo
12:12 PM
He could've pinned it himself
 
pretty sure he remembers how to pin stuff
 
sbi
When I was an owner, I was generally seen as a dictator. So what was that mod expecting me to do, once I'm back in power?
 
Didn't know you could pin your own things.
 
sbi
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There's a lot you would have to learn about this room, young man.
 
Xeo
12:13 PM
@sbi Dunno, I have a feeling Shog was picking favourites.
 
remember the other C++ room?
people are idiots
remember the DDos attack thread? - 17 against 1 & I won at the end
 
@chmod711telkitty RIP
...
 
sbi
...if I'd let you.
 
lol
 
12:14 PM
Still a total cunt, I see.
 
Xeo
lol
 
heh
 
@sbi, my friend...
:rofl:
 
sbi
Sorry, but having seen these comments, I don't think you'd be an appropriate owner of this fine room.
 
Those comments are the reason I was made an owner.
 
12:15 PM
@sbi ...
 
I don't think pointing out that SO has rules and that we are supposed to follow them means I'd "be an inappropriate owner", weirdo.
 
+1 so many times. It's just common sense. How does a room that sniffs out entitlement from half a continent away, get represented by a troll on the basis of this very entitlement. It's such a stark contrast, that I don't even know whether it's funny. — sehe 34 secs ago
@sbi Then again, he is arguing on the side of sanity on meta... (But yeah)
 
On the contrary, your first act is to remove one of your co-owners, without discussion, without debate. So you're the inappropriate one. Not that I'm surprised, or that I care that much.
 
wait...
 
sbi
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...by the very guy who sacked the owners that were made owner by the process we sat up here all together, when I was still around regularly. #
 
12:16 PM
meta has sanity?
 
yeah, I do find it odd that you should act so forcefully when you're not even a regular any more
power trip I guess
well since I have no subjects to abuse any more, I'm gonna go get that breakfast!
 
sbi
Did I mention I was often seen as a dictator?
 
I was already well aware of that before you said it
no need to be so arrogant about it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit right, race away
 
sbi
Oh, and I never said I'd quell an argument over what I did. Feel free, go ahead and argue.
 
12:17 PM
@Abyx Rightness Races to Breakfast
@sbi Traditionally one has the discussion first, is the point.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit discussion with what?
 
This is so stupid.
 
sbi
You might want to pick up a dictionary and check on "dictator".
 
instead of just marching in and wresting control
Not sure why I'm actually listening to you
Wait, why are you not plonked any more? o.O
easily solved
 
@TonyTheLion sanity occurs indepently of the context. Otherwise, none would exist
 
12:19 PM
@sbi how was your thing after work? :)
 
Xeo
Well this escalated quickly.
Back to cleaning
 
shrug It's less escalated than it was last night
 
@sehe :/
 
I would still suggest that — recent events notwithstanding — the room owner list is frozen until things calm down. Then perhaps some of the old owners should be added back, carefully. Not sure why that is such a difficult concept to grasp for some supposedly-mature people.
 
sbi
@melak47 It was the best "political event" I have attended to so far. When I left, everybody was jumping through the newly opened office to AC/DC's Highway to Hell like they had too much alcohol. Which they probably had.
 
Xeo
12:21 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit My opinion is that 90% of the people should not have been booted in the first place, but what's happened, happened. So meh.
 
sbi
Hey, look. The arrogant guy who tells other people they are arrogant, and that he doesn't care, cares enough to not to have breakfast, and rather hangs around here, showing how much he cares. Snicker.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit everybody grasps it. And I agree. Just note that there's a fair bit of opportunism/cognitive dissonance involved, or at least the appearance of the former. So, as you put it "No need to be arrogant about it" :)
 
I would make a pool to elect from 5 to 10 members as owners. But then again, I guess we have "dictators" now. :lol:
 
I've upvoted where due. I'll that suffice
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So I really don't see the "some" and "carefully" part, tbh.
 
12:22 PM
@sbi haha
 
@Xeo I generally agree with that. The problem was that Tony had already immediately re-added DeadMG, so who can Shog "trust" after that?
@sehe :P
 
Nothing boosts ego better than when everyone tells you "you are wrong", but in the end you prove that you are right - it is like hitting a lottery jackpot
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Apparently you, Mysticial, Jerry and the ape.
 
@Xeo Not the ape, apparently ;P
 
Xeo
9 mins ago, by Xeo
@sbi Dunno, I have a feeling Shog was picking favourites.
 
sbi
Why would we care whom Shog trusts? The question: Whom will the regulars trust? And there, my bet is on the regulars.
 
@Xeo "carefully" because I was obviously naughty by adding Puppy back to the owners list, and therefore didn't suck up to the meta police. So I wouldn't qualify to be a room owner again.
 
@chmod711telkitty So, did you write that down immediately as you woke up? That's one fine dream
 
user3010322
Wat
 
user3010322
LRIO
 
12:23 PM
@sbi I don't trust you at all.
 
user3010322
Your name isn't in italics?
 
I don't think Shog was picking new owners. He was picking temporary administrators, who would then re-add owners as discussion decided in here. He even said that.
Not that I'm surprised someone who wasn't even here has no idea what's going on and how to act in the situation.
 
@ThePhD He was removed by Ape
 
@Jefffrey Good boy. Way To Derail
 
@ThePhD It was nice while it lasted
 
Xeo
12:24 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, he explicitly said that you four are now the owners.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and... how's the true C++ chat going?
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Did you do anything fun? :D
 
@Xeo oh don't make me find it again >.<
@Abyx It hasn't existed in ages
 
sbi
@Jefffrey Hey, you're a grown-up! Good.
 
@ThePhD I behaved myself and was a good room owner, for all of half an hour.
Now we're back to shit room owner behaviour again
 
Xeo
12:25 PM
9 hours ago, by Shog9
There are now four room owners.
 
sbi
10 mins ago, by sbi
Sorry, but having seen these comments, I don't think you'd be an appropriate owner of this fine room.
 
9 hours ago, by Shog9
If they feel that someone else is suitably responsible to take on that role, they have the right to appoint them.
 
> Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! (John 19:27)
 
this'll be interesting:
9 hours ago, by Shog9
If one of them screws up, they'll be removed from that role.
now I'm really hungry
 
9 hours ago, by Shog9
If I or a moderator remove someone as room owner because they screwed that up, then they stay removed.
 
user3010322
12:26 PM
Your behavior, for however short, will be placed upon pedestals and remembered for the aeons to come.
 
stop making me want to talk to you!
 
9 hours ago, by Stack Exchange
9 hours ago, by Stack Exchange
 
hm....
 
@melak47 He did a batch remove then selectively added
 
12:26 PM
@ThePhD lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's no excuse! :p
 
@melak47 @Shog9 needs no excuse!
 
Peeps, just a FYI: I'm going to leave this room. I'll check back later. But if you guys are still bickering and fighting, count me out.
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heheh seheh
 
user3010322
12:27 PM
Oh, I forgot to say.
 
@TonyTheLion I sehe what you did there
 
Shog came like: youtube.com/watch?v=gx4jn77VKlQ and now people are leaving the room :) shiny :)
 
@melak47 :)
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yo, I finally finished implementing bounds_iterator in the mostly right way and I have to say it's pretty badass when it comes to shortening loops and other awesome things of that nature.
 
There's something very attractive about black holes.
Let's talk about black holes.
 
12:30 PM
Black holes are black
 
user3010322
I'm not sure if my array_slice works.
 
@ThePhD bounds iterator?
 
@sehe I'll miss you
 
Yeah, me too.
 
12:35 PM
 
@ThePhD I see; to be honest, the only time I've had need for something like that was with GPGPU and well, most if not all GPGPU thingies support it already :)
 
user3010322
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, just a standardization.
 
screw ticks, I'll call them jiffies now :p
 
Jifffies.
 
user3010322
That's where the expression "I'll get it done in a Jiffy!" comes from.
 
12:36 PM
@ThePhD but of course - there are many useful things I have never had the need for :P such as Java ^^
 
@ThePhD It's the other way around, actually; "Jiffy" was first used in 1785.
 
@Jefffrey the time between two ticks of a Jefffrey? :p
 
user3010322
Eww, Java.
 
so weird LRIO being all italics and shit
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ooh. Well then.
 
12:37 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Press F5 to resolve this.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, except when it's not.
 
ah; you no longer are?
 
user3010322
Oh, right.
 
@ScarletAmaranth @Shog made the mistake of also electing one of the old cabal.
 
user3010322
I was going to implement kernel convolutions...
 
12:38 PM
check the starboard side of the chat
 
I guess even moderators aren't immune from errors
 
cabal is ok
 
why did the ape remove you :D?
 
Oh man, I've eaten too much white chocolate.
inb4 racism
 
user3010322
12:39 PM
Oh man.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Because he thinks I'm "an inappropriate room owner" for saying the following:
Yet more excuses. If you want your own place to go and be childish then start your own chat system or use someone else's. Otherwise, finally come to terms with the fact that the Lounge is part of Stack Overflow and should abide by the principles that Stack Exchange upholds. — Lightness Races in Orbit 12 hours ago
Last Mentalist tomorrow :(
Oh, wait a minute
> On May 10, 2014, CBS renewed the series for a seventh season
mehehehe
 
ooo; didn't even know
 
so much for the half-season series coda
 
that makes me feel happy :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Secretly, the ape and I were the same person all along!
 
12:41 PM
but naturally
 
@DeadMG heh that actually wouldn't surprise me ;p
 
I shouldn't have eaten all that chocolate.
 
it's such a nice weekend - should I bother doing all the gardening that I need to do? Probably.
 
I feel sweet.
 
need to go out and buy a strimmer and weedkiller sprayer thing tho
 
user3010322
12:41 PM
PTCD
 
which involves showering and getting dressed etc. cba :/
 
user3010322
Post Traumatic Cocoa Disorder
 
Xeo
I need to continue cleaning. :(
 
lel
 
more like post-coacoa trauma disorder
 
Xeo
12:42 PM
And I need to dismantle my PC and "desk", meh
 
user3010322
Oh, man.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you can also use fire to kill weeds
 
user3010322
This code is so shit, I don't even know what to do with it.
 
@melak47 my lighter would run out
 
kill it; kill it with fire
 
12:43 PM
My cats keep killing grasshoppers and lizards and bring them in front of the kitchen's window.
 
how sweet :3
 
At least 1 per day.
 
sbi
Ok, guys, I setup the owner list according to the current frequent user list, except that I left @Mysticial and @Jerry on the list. As we all know, it is quite a brittle list, and I'm not a regular anymore, so please correct it if you feel like this was inappropriate.
 
sbi
12:48 PM
I have made my decision about my room ownership and currently I intent to stick to it. (I also stand to to this statement of mine, BTW, so if one of you guys want to add back Tomalak, I am perfectly fine with it.)
Now, please, everybody always stick to the rules proposed and decided for long ago, which helped so much to make this room such a very long-lasting and highly-demanded, keep suspicious of the meta police, and, most importantly, have fun!
 
user3010322
Jan 3 '12 at 11:12, by Tony The Lion
ok, something else, anyone good at Discrete Cosine Transform type math?
 
user3010322
^ Tony, with the esoteric and hard topics.
 
user3010322
All the time.
 
user3010322
When I went to see him, do you know what he was studying? For FUN?
 
quantum wave theory?
 
user3010322
12:50 PM
Organic chemistry. Goddamn Organic Chem.
 
bacterial properties of vaginal secretions?
high-temperature superconductors?
 
user3010322
O Chem is the most DREADED class in EVERY university and UNIVERSALLY reviled by every student, even the most zealous biology students.
 
user3010322
And Tony's just like "Yeah, I'm gonna snuggle up with a Organic Chem book."
 
clearly Tony's just a real man.
 
user3010322
He's a madman genius. <_>
 
sbi
12:52 PM
@sbi Oh, I forgot: I left out the puppy. Well, you decide about that. :) I'm outta here again.
 
Xeo
have fun in your garden
 
honestly leaving me off was probably a smart move.
you'd really antagonize shog if you put me back on :P
 
user3010322
That was the reason shog went Rambo in the first place.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG I have a feeling Shog isn't gonna like this already.
 
me too.
let's just not tell him.
 
user3010322
12:53 PM
@Xeo Particularly, there's the addition of Tony The Lion, which was complicit in adding DeadMG back.
 
user3010322
Not having DeadMG is good grace, sure, but having Tony trumps that unfortunately?
 
sbi
@DeadMG Actually, I left this open for consideration while setting up the rest, and then I just forgot about it. :-/
 
dunno
 
user3010322
Or, uh. Doesn't make the situation look any better.
 
we'll see
right now I'm more concerned about not timewarping my rocket through Kerbin
 
12:54 PM
@ThePhD conspiracy to commit room ownership
 
user3010322
@melak47 NOT GUILTY!
 
and throwing away 9kdv I didn't need :(
 
Oh, well that went well. What a wasted opportunity.
 
shoulda removed sbi before sbi could remove you :P
 
sbi
@Xeo I will now go and point it out to him on twitter. The meta police isn't what it used to be since Jeff left and he got this job. I am sure he couldn't care less whether we talked about vaginas and whatnot, as long as this doesn't cause a fuzz on meta.Just make sure you're not causing any trouble, and they'll leave you alone.
 
12:56 PM
got a slow cooker, yay!
this should give me more cooking freedom than a microwave oven
 
Xeo
@AlexM. haha
 
user3010322
Microwave ovens are terrible.
 
user3010322
For cooking anything.
 
Xeo
I should get a proper kitchen sometime soon
 
@ThePhD but they're awesome for microwaving things :p
 
12:57 PM
I don't have space to bring in a proper oven
 
user3010322
@melak47 Fire up the oven and warm it up like a real man!
 
sbi
Oh yeah, and could some room owner please unpin the top two pinned messages? They're obsolete now.
 
it's also not my apartment so I can't demolish stuff
@ThePhD yes
I once tried pizza
never again
 
Xeo
lol
welp, back to cleaning (again)
 
@sbi Smart move.
 
sbi
1:00 PM
Oh look, telkitty has done something I agree with. That ought to be a first.
@Xeo Oy!
 
user3010322
@sbi The shock of not being a room owner is still with him and he's doing some stress-relief panic-cleaning.
 
user3010322
You have to give him some time.
 
user3010322
It's hard, sometimes.
 
sbi
Um. He is a room owner. Would I have asked him otherwise?
 
user3010322
I know, but the non-room-owner mentality is still there.
 
1:03 PM
@sbi It is done.
 
user3010322
Lurking in his head. Cognitive Dissonance.
 
sbi
Thanks, tiger.
Erm, lion.
 
@Xeo Is your flat that messy?
 
user3010322
Liontiger
 
user3010322
Tilion?
 
user3010322
1:03 PM
Liger?
 
sbi
Liger
@ThePhD It's tigeon, actually, I think.
ICBWT.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Nah, I just haven't gotten much done, actually :P
 
@Xeo Same here, meant to clean, haven't done any of it.
been working instead
 
sbi
:wq!
 
:open kopia.hs
 
user3010322
1:09 PM
:rq
 
user3010322
Oh, man.
 
user3010322
Written in a day when return values could not be trusted, this code egregiously terrible.
 
user3010322
I wonder how I fix this...
 
Never trust return values. Unless it's a pure Haskell function.
 
user1804599
DI with self types is cooool.
 
1:19 PM
thanks @sbi
 
user1804599
And structural typing is cooool.
 
@DeadMG I thought about it, but I decided that I was a better person than to summarily execute my fellow owners. I did have a feeling that one of them wouldn't be so humble, though.
lol, sbi is backing up telkitty now, with no argument other than "I'm sorry you can't understand". Speaks volumes, really.
 
rofl I got 2 downvotes
like ... I care
 
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Q: Maximum value that can be stored in an integer type in C++

jacksparrow007I have the following program in C++ #include <iostream> #include <cstdio> #include <cstring> #include <cstdlib> #include <limits> using namespace std; int main() { printf("range of int: %d to %d", SHRT_MIN, SHRT_MAX); int a = 1000006; printf("\n Integer a is equal to %d", a); re...

-.-
 
user1804599
lol fail
 
1:32 PM
Nothing feels more noble than to burn for the truth you believe in
I will probably get banned for this, tough luck ... revert mod reverted post
When you believe you are serving something that is larger than your life, then you have a great chance to become happy
 
o.O
Did you steal the puppy's drugs, or something?
You've been so ... sane ... lately. Why ruin it now?
 
I wasn't sane, I was just pissed by shitty people in real life ... I am probably a shitty person myself, but that's not point. At least I am good sometimes :p
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit She had her wicked desires under suppressing fire.
 
user3010322
But the guardians in her reality -- bless their courageous souls -- have fallen.
 
@ThePhD zap zap zap
 
1:36 PM
my wicked desire ... phew
 
@ThePhD it's happening again
is everyone on puppy's drugs? :p
 
Feels like I may be the only one who's not on drugs here this weekend.
 
user3010322
Tripping the liiiines, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
 
Oo ... we weren't discussing my wicked sexual desires, for a split second, I was worried
 
user3010322
I don't think I ever want to know about that part of a person ever, really.
 
user3010322
1:38 PM
If one person does it, we'll set a dangerous precedent, and Rightfold's Vagina will be back. With a vengeance.
 
@bluefeet: I am reverting it back
I thought this would work, doh!
 
right
I have a sample that reproduces my problem.
it's only 2,800 lines long.
 
afk for a while
 
user3010322
@DeadMG Redefining "short" are we?
 
@chmod711telkitty s/afk/banned/
 
1:43 PM
I am too interesting to get perm banned
 
not true at all
 
guis
 
I bet that bluefeet mod doesn't have a very high IQ
 
do you remember Vlad?
 
1:44 PM
he has his own forum. let's do the same, let's make our own chat!
 
TIL 'Don't bend over to watch the baby fish in the pond while wearing a baseball cap':(
 
I mean everyone
 
hmm
 
one chat per person
 
I reduced it to a mere 2536 lines.
 
@Abyx Ah yes, the famous "Forum".
@Abyx That project is already underway. And stalled.
iirc
 
sh!!!t the whole saturday night on an SO chat, this is too sad ...
 
s/stalled/stillborn/
 
1:46 PM
alright
fortunately, the error was on line ~2500 so I actually found it pretty quickly.
really strange that Clang did not produce an error.
and VS reports the error on a totally random line involving the same type, as usual.
> Build: 2 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped
gosh it's been a long time since I saw that.
 
@Abyx vladworld?
 
@melak47 yeah sort of
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Clearly the solution is to not wear a baseball cap!
 
Xeo
30in, aka 75cm.
 
user3010322
1:58 PM
Mmm.
 
@Xeo oh yes oops
that's a little more substantial. still not much, though
 

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