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3:00 PM
what if they are member functions?
 
You can call members with no problem, you only can't reliably call virtual members.
 
No, I don't intend on calling a virtual..but why? Is it because they mightn't exist?
 
What @Cat said.
 
Als
@CatPlusPlus: yes reliably is perfect
 
here is the ctor C++ FAQ in case anyone is interested: parashift.com/c%2B%2B-faq-lite/ctors.html
 
Als
3:02 PM
@LewsTherin: To keep it simple, you can say virtualism is disabled in class constructors and destructors.
 
Thanks
Very simple xD
 
sbi
OMG. Now Anna has migrated this question to meta. That is so wrong.
 
MSFT (msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/3f80506d%28v=vs.71%29.aspx) says this on constructors: "Minimize the amount of work done in the constructor. Constructors should not do more than capture the constructor parameter or parameters. This delays the cost of performing further operations until the user uses a specific feature of the instance."
 
Als
@sbi: Lulz, like why pointers are bad, ask on meta
 
@sbi should have stayed on programmers
 
3:04 PM
@sbi Who is Anna?
 
@LewsTherin Programmers MOD
 
Als
@LewsTherin: Only chick we know in SO and a mod
 
@sbi I was surprised no one had suggested such a silly thing before.
 
sbi
@LewsTherin The mod who migrated that question, obviously.
 
@CodeMonkey That's for .NET though.
 
Als
3:04 PM
oh she was the one there when my q on UB was migrated too!
 
sbi
@Als There was once a woman in this room and it was not Anna. Also, it's still not ruled out that Grace Note is female.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Does it matter though?
 
Didn't know she was a mod, so not that obvious.. :P
 
@CodeMonkey There is no RAII in .NET. That's already a big difference.
 
Als
@sbi: woman in this room = @Xeo ??
 
3:06 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Right but we're not talking about RAII, just how heavy you should make your ctor
 
@Als that is yet unconfirmed
 
@CodeMonkey RAII matters for this. A ctor is the first piece of RAII.
Besides, with the Code Contracts API Microsoft also recommends setting up all the class invariants in the ctor.
 
sbi
@Als If @Xeo is female, then that would be two of them in this room.
 
So, pick your pill.
 
Als
3:07 PM
@sbi: So i am asking who is the other?
care to tell
 
2 women, wow..that's a lot
 
Als
aha oh how could i forget
technically 3 then
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Oops. That would be three. If tina was a woman.
 
Als
there was a Miss too
haha
 
3:08 PM
same person
 
Als
:P
 
@sbi I heard Jeff confirmed that.
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: You don;t know
 
@Als I know all the things
 
Als
@AlfPSteinbach: <----------------- This guy knows for sure
 
3:08 PM
But I wasn't here at the time, so my memory doesn't stretch that far back.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes go and study the transcripts will you, how can you be archivist of this room if you don't know :P
 
sbi
@Als How would I know? There was one woman here in this room, months ago. She said she wasn't a C++ programmer, but the other rooms were dull. ISTR she liked cats. You are welcome to search the room anals with such scarce information. I value my time too much for that.
 
@TonyTheLion I will if you guys shut up for a few weeks. I can't keep tabs on the past and the present at the same time!
 
Als
3:10 PM
darn @RMartinhoFernandes, archivist, You should search what @sbi said
 
I can't change my profile pic...what's up with that?
 
you're a bot, don't you have multiple threads, so one can read the past, while the other reads the present? LOL
 
@sbi you used anal, prepare to be flagged
 
@CodeMonkey but you just did too :P
 
lol
 
3:11 PM
shit...
 
Als
more flags he used plural like not one ass but multiple asses
LOL
 
@TonyTheLion Please remember that I have one busy with the future already :)
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Actually, in a breach of privacy that produced an outrage like we never had, Jeff said tina was a man. From what he concluded that, and whether he was right, I don't know.
 
and he used the S word
 
@RMartinhoFernandes heheh :P
 
sbi
3:12 PM
@Als Ah, I forgot about our robot, archivist in residence here. Go for it, @RMartinho!
 
@sbi Oh. I got that backwards then.
 
@sbi I have vivid memories of that day
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey European as I am, I need to always be prepared to be flagged.
 
Als
oh my comment featured in the meta as an example of outcry
me me me
 
@sbi I don't get it. What's special about flags in Europe?
 
3:13 PM
@Als what? what do i know? sorry i've not been following...
 
You know, I went to the first AstriCon (conference for Asterisk Open Source PBX system) and it was PACKED. It was held in Atlanta, GA and had days worth of talks. We can't even get a good DevDays organized?
 
I wonder if this answer will be removed:
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A: Strictness in programming methods among Stack Overflow users

Alf P. SteinbachI have got heavy downvoting whenever I've suggested a macro solution. My conclusion is that downvoters on SO are mostly just conforming idiots. I mean it's easy to see. As often as not, an answer that is technically incorrect and/or directly dangerous, but that from an idiot's point of view woul...

he he
 
Als
@AlfPSteinbach: We were talking about Tina, being a man, as Jeff said and Tina reappearing here as Miss again
any comments?
 
old frankie boy did sing that one should express what one means, and not crawl like a coward
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes We're not as pretentious as Americans. If people use the word "fuck" when they talk to each other, we will write it down as "fuck", and don't give a fuck about American prudity. In a community ran and dominated by Americans, this tends to get you flagged.
 
3:15 PM
@Als well it's a mystery, but the photos seem to indicate female gender. in your case it's opposite. yes?
 
@sbi Oh, I thought it was some kind of clever pun :( It was just meant as "The Old World is better :P"
 
Als
@AlfPSteinbach: You taught him/her a lot, we thought you might know
 
@AlfPSteinbach well, frankly I am tired of the whining
 
Als
@AlfPSteinbach: My case u know better
 
3:17 PM
@sbi: Bwahaha - "removed from Meta Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation"
 
@CodeMonkey Where is that?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes removed from Meta Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey What was removed?
 
@CodeMonkey Microsoft also spent 20 years telling everyone what a good idea hungarian notation was
 
sbi
3:18 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Anna wrote she now sees that she was in error and wanted to migrate it back. // @CodeMonkey
 
@jalf good point
 
Oh, I just saw waffles and didn't even bother to read.
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey & @RMartinhoFernandes: It's back here now.
 
@sbi it's all f'ed up now.. the answers are missing
 
3:21 PM
Is it not possible to use 2 consoles at once?
 
@CodeMonkey sad, not just my inflaming answer removed, but the whole question
 
I have the windows console and the allegro console open
but when I click on the windows console the allegro console freezes
 
2 mins ago, by sbi
@CodeMonkey & @RMartinhoFernandes: It's back here now.
 
Als
lol u are a thread killer @AlfPSteinbach
 
grr, so annoying...I can't see the change realtime
 
sbi
3:22 PM
@CodeMonkey Oops. Well, mine is still there, and atop now, as it ought to be. :) I flagged a mod anyhow.
 
Isn't allegro a library that was relevant back in the dos days?
 
@sbi I don't see it.. only DeadMG's and someone else's
It must be migrating slowly
 
Als
yup me too
 
@jalf that's what I am using to learn C++
But there is Allegro 5 now
I'm using 4
Is it possible ?
to use the 2 at once
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey Oops. It was deleted, but I could undelete it. And now it's four answers instead of two. This seems to be a slow process. Maybe I have flagged hastily.
 
3:25 PM
@sbi the whole way of doing things on SO is so backwards now.. I want to go back to 2009
 
sbi
> @sbi Ack. Answers are deleted when a question is migrated, so I gotta go back and undelete them. This forces a page refresh and the proxy here at work isn't friends with SE's CDN, so it's gonna take me a bit. Thanks for bringing this up. :)
 
no clue. But I'd generally recommend focusing when learning C++. Don't try to learn C++ and write a GUI application and a game. You'll have your hands full learning C++ as it is. Distracting yourself by also trying to use a 20 year old library doesn't seem like a very constructive use of your time ;)
 
sbi
@sbi Anna writes.
 
It isn't a gui
But I get your point
 
sbi
3:26 PM
@jalf Full Ack.
 
@AlfPSteinbach too bad i cant read the rest of that
 
Als
I am so bored, I didn't go to work today...
 
:( Every. Damn. Time
 
I've never actually used Allegro, so I have no clue what its API looks like, but unfortunately, most C++ libraries really have very little to do with how C++ should be written. Most of them tend to pull you in the C/C-with-classes, or I-Wish-I-Was-Written-In-Java direction
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: find one who doesn't mind having 2 boyfriends
 
3:29 PM
@TonyTheLion stop wedding crashing.
 
Als
:)
 
@Als You didn't go to work? Isn't that bad?
 
@TonyTheLion Stop going to couples night out too.
 
sorry, just a quick question.. what's cout return type?
 
bool
i think
 
3:29 PM
@BlackBear cout is an object, not a function. It doesn't have a return type
 
cout is an object and doesn't have a return type.
 
@BlackBear std::ostream&, if you're talking about e.g. << operator
 
@jalf Ah, you fixed it :)
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: The rain, always fcks me up, I get up at 6.30am and it was raining like hell, i was just too amazed by it, decided to not go, slept by the time i wake up at 10.10am skies were clear
 
what does cin return?
 
3:30 PM
disobediance.
 
@LewsTherin cin is an object, not a function or function template and doesn't return anything.
 
@LewsTherin true/false I think
 
@Als You can do that? Just "decide to not go"? Hmm. I'm jealous.
 
@Als you don't have to notify them you're not coming?
 
@LewsTherin please fix your question. responses to first question should have taught you the question is malformed.
 
sbi
3:30 PM
@Als I am so bored. I went to work today. :)
 
@AlfPSteinbach: yeah. I tried to cout << cout << "hey\n" and got something which looks like an address
 
I am so pissed off. I came to work today. And the XSLT was still here waiting for me!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You can always decide not to go, consequences withstanding.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes, @TonyTheLion: Yeah notified them, We have sprints not day to day allocations
 
But cin does return a boolean
 
Als
3:31 PM
so u dont work a day u have to finish other days
 
@Als oh I see
 
Als
damn the Agile methodologies
 
@LewsTherin No. cin is a of type that is convertible to bool.
 
3:32 PM
@LewsTherin Objects don't return anything on their own.
 
@LewsTherin troll
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: oh btw i am the tech lead, so i make some of the sprint thingys :P
 
@LewsTherin What does vec from std::vector<int> vec; return anyway?
 
@Als oh ok
 
@LucDanton nothing is "returned"
 
3:33 PM
@Xaade screw you :P
Ok maybe wrong way of saying of it
but cin >> is a function
 
@CodeMonkey Context.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion For one, that is only the first hurdle. I mean, you do want her to like you, too, don't you? And that's not a given only because you like her. But also, I doubt you know what would be the "ideal girlfriend" before you have spent a few months with her. IME all humans have little quirks which you will, at some point, start to find annoying. The art of finding a partner for life is finding someone who has few, and a way to deal with them.
 
...
 
cin >> is a function and that returns a value ?
 
@LewsTherin while cin is an object, cin >> foo is an expression involving some function named operator>>.
 
3:34 PM
@sbi I think, girl must like dogs.
 
Als
@sbi, another way is go for an arranged marriage :)
 
operator>> will return an std::istream& in this case.
 
@sbi oh thanks for the advice, I'm still a noob in this area, so I have yet a lot to learn
@Als oh, that's not customary in Europe
 
Yeah, and sex.
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach A girl must what?
 
3:35 PM
an expression is collection of disguised function calls.
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: What is there to learn?
 
@LucDanton yeah true..but i swear reading somewhere else
that it returns a bool
 
GAH
 
For malformed input or something
 
No, it converts to bool.
 
3:35 PM
@sbi like dogs. like, if she's afraid of dogs, no good as girlfriend.
 
Not only do you know the answer, you refute any other answer.
 
@Als how to deal with girls and ask them out etc
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: Like a girl who likes you for what you are the way you are and make sure you like her for the same reasons, about her being herself
 
Demon Troll.
 
@AlfPSteinbach strange criteria
 
Als
3:35 PM
once you find such a girl, pronto
marriage
 
@Xaade what's your problem?
 
@LewsTherin My problem is that typically when you ask a question, you want an answer. Not a debate.
 
@LewsTherin he's @Xaade that is the entirety of his problem :P
 
sbi
@Als This might come as a surpise to you, but even arranged marriages can become hell sometimes. :-x
 
3:36 PM
I need a debate to understand the answer
 
@LewsTherin as I've said before, you need to read a good C++ book
6
 
@sbi that's optmistic
 
@LewsTherin Then pick a new career..... like philospher.
 
it will help you understand all the why's and wherefores of the language
 
Als
@sbi: naah, i know, but they are not that bad, or as potrayed, its not like two people are picked by their families to marry and force to marry, its more of an setup where families approach each other and the girl and the boy are given ample time to know each other before deciding to marry, call it family sponsored dating
:)
 
3:38 PM
@TonyTheLion I got deitel...was good I suppose
didn't get to finish it
 
@LewsTherin Some method of cout might return a boolean.
 
@LewsTherin deitel?
 
sbi
@LewsTherin That is not called optimism. That is called sarcasm.
 
That is, methods are the only things that can "return" something. Objects cannot.
 
@robert And in C++ they're functions, not methods. ;)
 
3:39 PM
@sbi I think arranged marriages come in cultures where divorce is less of an option. So people who end up in them figure they only get one chance, might as well make it work. However in other cultures, they don't see marriage as binding, and figure they can get out at any time. When you start a marriage with the idea that you can end it; it doesn't bode well for the outcome.
 
@sbi I knew there was something weird about that sentence!
 
@jalf Really? I consider functions a special type of method, i.e. a method that returns a value.
 
Ok I get the point
 
@robert Oh, gosh that's new.
 
@sbi sarcasm doesn't come across well over the internet
 
3:40 PM
In C++ there's only functions, no methods.
 
sbi
@Als Seeing how often dating can go wrong without the pressure of having two families looking over your shoulder, I suspect you will have a hard time convincing me that this is in any way superior to young people freely picking their own.
 
Als
@sbi: this is the way when young people can't pick on their own
 
@sbi see above.
 
Als
not that bad a option
 
However, other languages have methods. And they call methods to member functions. I don't know any language where they call method to a function that returns a value.
 
sbi
3:40 PM
@Xaade How would the fact that you cannot divorce make a marriage becoming hell any less objectionable??
 
Als
@Xaade: I would agree to that
 
Pascal has function for those that return values and procedure for those that don't. VB has Function and Sub respectively.
 
sbi
@Als They always can. Only in some culturess they aren't allowed to.
 
@LewsTherin It might seem a little pedantic, but your very first question in this regard was whether cin returned a value. Well, if you write someting like std::cin << 5, this is equivalent to std::cin.operator<<(5). So, cin doesn't return anything, but cin.operator<< does.
 
@sbi When you're stuck in a hole you can't dig out of, you tend to make it home or die.
 
sbi
3:41 PM
Anyway, as for knowing whether a girl is the right one for you, @Tony, Debbie has some advice for you:
You don't know a women till you've met her in court
 
Als
@sbi: Some are too shy or just can't get themselves to find suitable other half
@sbi: I would replace the court by Bedroom. Thats my advice then
 
@robert yes you are right I meant cin.operator<< and I believe I corrected myself
 
Are there any present-day cultures where arranged marriages are common?
 
When does it convert to a bool ?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah. They tend to be a little more closed to global news.
 
Als
3:42 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes: aye
 
@sbi lol
 
Could I have a name instead of a simple "yes"? :) Please?
 
sbi
@Xaade See, for my grandparents' generation divorce wasn't really an option. So I have seen a lot of old couples. Some loved each other until the bitter end, some turned it into a ceasefire, and for some it was hell until the sweet end.
 
@sbi I'm pretty sure I know my wife well enough to know she'd kick my ass in court.
 
argh, why is it that there always has to be at least one computer in your vicinity that doesn't work?
 
Als
3:43 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes:Lot of Indians still have arranged marriages
 
@jalf Bogons.
 
sbi
@Als Your advice is wrong then. (I have been to courtroom with a woman.)
 
@Als Oh, I didn't knew that.
 
@sbi I'm talking more or less of the perceived success of arranged marriages. I'm making the same point as you. They stick it out. Doesn't mean they like doing so.
 
sbi
@Als If they can't then that's usually due to lack of allowance. Almost everybody else can, sooner or later.
 
3:44 PM
@LewsTherin operator<< will return std::ostream& in this case, and in turn objects of (dynamic) type std::ostream& can convert to bool.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: And indians are by far not on top of marriages breaking list
 
What are we talking about again? @Als trying to argue that it'd be a better world if his family arranged a girlfriend for him? ;)
 
@LucDanton This might sound stupid, but why did you mean by dynamic??
 
Als
@sbi: I have been to the place where i adviced with a woman, so whats the point? :P
 
@LewsTherin Sorry, it was a clumsy way of phrasing 'objects of type std::ostream or a type derived from it ...'.
 
Als
3:46 PM
@jalf: haha, darn i get dragged right in to the centre of this argument
 
sbi
@Xaade I'm not sure what "sticking it out" means, but if it is similar to my ceasefire, the see that this is only some of them. I once had an old (>70) couple as neighbors. We actually contemplated moving, because we were so fed up of listening to them barking at each other. (Then he died of a stroke in the middle of a fight. Go figure.)
 
fuck
 
@Als Is everyone totally missing my point. From our external point of view, we've defined marital success by the lack of a divorce. However, I would wager that anyone who's put up with someone they don't like would attest that such a thought is nonsense. Arranged marriages are no more successful. It's just that their culture has more of a sense of respect for marriage.
 
fuck fuck fuck fuck
 
@Als You were the only that mentioned arranged marriages, weren't you?
 
3:46 PM
@LucDanton my bad for not understanding it :(
 
sbi
@Als I can't parse that, nor do I know what it refers to.
 
Shall we flag him?
 
@jalf Woah, what's wrong?
 
@LewsTherin operator! is overloaded for some (most?) streams, i.e. you can write if (!stream) and the code in this if-block will be executed if the stream is in an error state. I.e. !stream == (isThisStreamInErrorStateForSomeReason)
 
3:46 PM
I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER COMPUTER APART TO FIGURE OUT WHATS WRONG WITH IT
 
Als
stop that shitty flagging please
 
@LewsTherin Meh, my bad really.
 
@jalf oh did you break it?
 
Note again that !stream is equivalent to stream.operator!()
 
@TonyTheLion it just crashes on boot
 
sbi
3:47 PM
@jalf What's wrong with IT?
 
@robert what are you talking about?
@LucDanton no problem and thanks :P
 
oh, have you tried system recovery?
 
Als
okay so here it is, if you enter in to a marriage knowing there is an easy way out by divorce you almost never work hard enough to make it work
 
yeah
seems to be a hardware problem
I even tried booting into another OS, no difference
 
5 mins ago, by Lews Therin
When does it convert to a bool ?
 
3:48 PM
darn
that sucks
 
hardware problems are depressing
2
 
@Als Sounds like the pro-life vs pro-choice debate
 
Als
whereas if you enter a marriage thinking its the only way and you need to make it work then you do make it work eventually
 
@robert Oh I see...in an if or boolean statement it converts then
 
@Als That's unprovable and irrelevant. Let people divorce, why do you care whether their marriage lasts or not.
 
3:48 PM
or boolean statement
 
Als
Who has highest divorce rates?
 
@Als What's jaw dropping is those marriages where the couple have a serious problem, and they end up happily married 5 years later still to each other. ZOMG, you stayed with him after he slept around.
 
Als
@LucDanton: missing my point
 
@Als do you have any statistics to back that up?
 
sbi
@Als Those cultures where divorce is an option.
 
3:49 PM
@sbi is debbie your wife? you quote her a lot
 
@Als I'm claiming your point is irrelevant.
 
Als
I am all under attack
 
@AlfPSteinbach haha lol.
 
Why do you care what goes on in the intimate life of others?
 
Als
haha
 
3:49 PM
@LucDanton If kids are involved, divorce is somewhat selfish depending on the reason.
 
Ukraine is pretty high
 
I know that the divorce rate is higher in the Bible belt in the US (where divorce, while still an option, isn't exactly popular), than among atheists (who have no particular reason to hate divorce)
 
Als
@LucDanton: Huh? what?
 
I'm don't think Debbie would make a good wife.
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach My wife? LOL. I don't even think she's a real person. Nobody could be that good all by themselves. I just like what is posted under that account.
 
3:50 PM
@CodeMonkey High on what?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes divorce
 
@LewsTherin Exactly, and the reason is that its operator! is overloaded. Alternatively, it might also be possible to overload operator bool() instead... but that's another story.
 
@CodeMonkey Oh, I thought you were talking about drugs.
 
@jalf That's skewed. Marriage is higher in the Bible belt, therefore divorce is higher.
 
@sbi well she's not good at spelling, write "a women"
 
3:50 PM
Guys, whats the difference between overloading operator! and operator bool()?
 
Als
ok a simple poll, everyone who thinks arranged marriage is not even a good practice, raise your hands
 
@jalf If atheists don't marry, they don't divorce.
 
Top Divorced Country: Sweden
 
@Als what exactly is meant by arranged marriage?
 
@robert Lots.
 
3:51 PM
"it depends"-hand-goes-nowhere
 
@robert nifty!
 
For that matter, what is the criteria for a "good practice"?
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach I have no idea what you're getting at, but I appreciate her mature sarcasm.
 
then US, Belarus, Finland, Luxemburg, Estonia, Denmark, Bulgaria...
 
Als
@jalf: this
 
3:51 PM
@LewsTherin Beware of overloading operator bool. It can get nasty in pre C++11.
 
Als
13 mins ago, by Als
@sbi: naah, i know, but they are not that bad, or as potrayed, its not like two people are picked by their families to marry and force to marry, its more of an setup where families approach each other and the girl and the boy are given ample time to know each other before deciding to marry, call it family sponsored dating
 
I'd probably raise my hand, but I really don't want to get into a "we disagree because we made different assumptions about what we're talking about, thus wasting everyone's time" kind of argument
@Als What about the other kind, where you don't get to decide for yourself?
 
sbi
@Als No need to. You are on your own if you defend that.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I didn't even know there was one..Dang :(
 
I think that if either party doesn't want to marry the other then it shouldn't happen
 
Als
3:52 PM
@jalf: I dont promote that.
 
the way divorce, marriage are treated is also a matter of culture and how you handle things
 
Als
by any chance
 
@KianMayne Ditto
 
In the US, people freak out over the silliest things
 
@RMartinhoFernandes what's made it less nasty in c++11?
 
3:53 PM
And how much pressure is put on the poor kids? Their families, by your words, have a sponsorship going, they'll want to see some return on their investment. They'll want those kids to get married.
 
I don't know how it is in Sweden
 
Is it possible to marry these days without divource?
 
@LewsTherin no, you have to divorce first
 
Als
@jalf: how do you think the power honcho alliances work?
 
@CodeMonkey I've learned that a personal issue is always significant to the person experiencing it, and silly to anyone else.
@LewsTherin I aim to prove otherwise.
 
Als
3:53 PM
@sbi: You killed my poll and then you say i am the only one supporting it
 
5
A: Conversion function for error checking considered good?

R. Martinho FernandesIn C++03, you need to use the safe bool idiom to avoid evil things: int x = my_object; // this works In C++11 you can use an explicit conversion: explicit operator bool() const { return is_valid; } This way you need to be explicit about the conversion to bool, so you can no longer do crazy ...

 
@Als well, no one else seemed to say they supported you
 
@AlfPSteinbach .. ok let me rephrase, is it possible to marry a woman without the possibility of a future divorce. That puts me off marriage or of even thinking about it
 
anyway, isn't the point in an arranged marriage that it is, well, arranged. As in, "it has been arranged for you, and you don't have a choice in the matter"?
 
Als
@jalf: Seemed to
 
3:55 PM
@LewsTherin Yes, but only if both of you give a little
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Thanks, that settles the issue.
 
it's all a compromise
 
I don't really see what "here's a nice girl, chat to her for a couple of years and then we'll see what happens" has to do with arranged marriages
 
Als
@jalf: I stated a form of arranged marriage where it is not like you don;t have an choice
 
@RMartinhoFernandes nice, thanks
 
3:55 PM
Yeah, what @jalf said can also happen in cultures without a tradition of arranged marriages.
 
and with those words of wisdom, I'm heading out to cook dinner :)
 
Yeah, get those upvotes cracking.
 
I dunno divorce seems to be the norm nowadays
 
@jalf there are arranged marriages that you don't have to agree to but people do out of respect
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: I gave up voting as well :P
 
3:56 PM
You can get divorced for snoring
 
are implicit type operators evil?
 
@Als I hope you don't give up chatting :(
@Xaade Yes. Implicit conversions are evil.
 
Als
@Xaade: Yes
they might happen when u least expect them to happen
 
I would think yes, because the user wouldn't be aware of what's going on when he reads the code.
 
Als
Scott meyers.......some chapter
 
3:58 PM
@Xaade yes, in particular for overload selection
 

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