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3:00 PM
they just boil them for an eternity and that's wrong
you have to cover them in oil and spices and then roast them
 
Als
@DeadMG: Indian way of doing it eh
 
and you need a solid variety, like potatoes, and sweet potatoes, and parsnips
mmmmmmm
 
Well, I can eat vegetables if cooked. But some people eat raw vegetables. That's insane.
 
@Als dunno
 
raw carrots are yummy
 
Als
3:01 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes: Some people eat raw meat too, thats insane too
insanity is relative and perceptive
 
raw carrots seem fine enough to me, I don't find them tremendously appealing though
 
no, raw meat is wrong
 
I only eat cooked meat.
 
uh, isn't raw meat horrendously unsanitary to eat?
 
Pork is very dangerous if eaten raw.
 
3:01 PM
yea, and you can get diseases eating raw meat
 
Als
Isn't red meat usually raw in the insides
honestly i almost puked it was half cooked or something
 
Huh, not necessarily.
 
Als
or perhaps i am just not used to without spices
 
I like my steak red inside
 
@DeadMG Depends on the creature eating it.
 
3:03 PM
pretty sure that we're all human here
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: red inside is blood?
 
Any of you guys are from Kentucky, US ?
 
No, and I'm not from Indiana either.
 
@Als sometimes there is a bit of that, but it's just red inside, not cooked through entirely
 
Als
3:08 PM
@kbok: Lol we don;t know that for a fact :P
@TonyTheTiger: I cannot feel like eating it
 
I sued Colorado, because it looks a little too much like Wyoming!
 
@Mahesh I think a lot of us are european and some from other parts of the world
 
Als
perhaps bcos i am used to cooked and spiced stuffs
 
hmmm. I'm not much of a fan of spicey food
I ate Thai food once and I almost spontaniously combusted cause it was SOOO spicey
 
you pussy
 
Als
3:10 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Yeah i know, our food habits are distinctly different
 
@DeadMG And you're a wuss that can't eat meat.
 
it's disgusting
 
I'm in deep shift. I have to write a report for my internship (They expect 40 pages.) I just started it and it turns out I have to give it on next monday instead of one week later. The issue is, I have to move to Paris tomorrow, the whole day, and I also have to have it checked by my boss before, i.e. on friday.
 
it's horrendously dry and splintery
it's like trying to eat wood
 
3:11 PM
Wood?
What kind of meat are you eating?
 
the stuff my parents served me when I was too young to tell them to stop
 
Meat is supposed to be tender.
 
yeah
maybe if you put it through a tenderizer first
 
I have no idea how it's prepared. I only know it tastes great.
 
@TonyTheTiger - ok
 
3:13 PM
besides
I find various forms of vegetation, like sweet potatoes and parsnips, to be plenty for me
 
@DeadMG Potatoes have a very high yumminess/price ratio.
 
@DeadMG: Hi.... I saw you talking about Indian curries.... where are you from?
 
@kbok Sweet potatoes are nice, but I'm not so fond of normal potatoes
 
make no mistake
normal potatoes can be overdone
and they shouldn't form a majority
 
And how did you come to know about these?
 
3:17 PM
but they are perfectly good as a minority
@Nawaz: United Kingdom
 
well, I don't like them when they're all dry and there is no sauce to give it taste
 
curries are more popular here than fish and chips or Macdonalds
 
ugh McDonalds
 
Als
@Nawaz: Id Mubarak
 
haha.. wow.. I didn't know that...
 
3:17 PM
oh yes
the most popular dish was chips for hundreds of years
 
@DeadMG ??? curries , macdonalds?
 
but recently it's become curries
 
Als
@Nawaz: ahh no names no names
lol
 
hahaha...alright.. no names :P
 
Als
delete that quick quick
 
3:18 PM
whyyyyyyyyyy?
don't worry...
 
cause names
we don't want them
 
no other indian is here.. :P
 
Als
@Nawaz: it remains etched here and it allows you to delete only for a limited time
 
so what, its the persons right to privacy
 
@Nawaz I like curries
 
3:19 PM
ohh.. okay...
 
and biryani
 
onion bhaji!
 
so, what the standard says for:

unsigned int i = 5;
i = -i;
 
UB right?
 
Als
3:20 PM
@Nawaz: Ah, thanks, I had my email id listed out there in profile but had an bad experience so
 
@Als: Deleted! Done :D
 
@DeadMG No.. i HATE onion bhaji
 
@hexa Overflows.
 
Als
@Nawaz: Thanks, please don;t mind it
 
onion bhaji is Teh Bestzorzâ„¢
 
3:20 PM
@Als you got spam?
 
@hexa It becomes 2^N - 5 where N is the number of bits of unsigned int.
 
my mom used to make it... it was disgusting
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Not UB then?
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: remember we discussed about something on chat? that was a wuss or so it seems
 
With unsigned types, no.
 
3:21 PM
cool
 
@Als oh I see
 
Anyway why is everyone talking about food?
 
why not?
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Wasted my few hours on that
 
because I had a dream about Pringles and decided to discuss it here
 
Als
3:22 PM
@IntermediateHacker: Because we don't talk about C++ in C++ room
 
I dreamt about bees last night, it was scary and weird
 
Hmm, honey.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Did they bit you? :P
And where?
 
Hmm, bee saliva.
 
no honey, but but bees and big wasps
ugh
@Als well almost
don't remember what happened exactly
 
Als
3:23 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Honey sounds like mmmm
:P
 
I tend to forget most of my dreams by the time I'm fully awake
 
When I was a kid, my father had a couple of bee hives.
I got stung a lot.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: happens to me all the time
 
@Als I just had some honey earlier, yum yum
 
Als
I seldom dream of having an exam and not being prepared for it and thankfully by the time i go for the exam i wake up.
 
3:24 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes There used to be some bee hives next door to where I worked
 
@Als Lol!
 
not a tremendous fan of honey
it's fuckin hard to apply and I've got nothing interesting to apply it to
 
Nutella :P
I love Nutella
 
@DeadMG me too.
honey is not that good
 
Als
@DeadMG: Geez seems like you are the odd puppy out
 
3:25 PM
@DeadMG I used to eat it with bread.
 
@DeadMG just eat it like that with a spoon, i do that
 
@TonyTheTiger eww
 
now this stuff
 
Has anyone ever eaten arabian food?
 
3:26 PM
is nice
I think it's Belgain, but oh yum yum
 
But then my dad got tired of keeping the bees and let the hives die.
No more free honey.
 
@IntermediateHacker depends on what is meant by arabian food
 
Chicken with hummus
 
what the fuck, eat honey with a spoon?
 
3:27 PM
not a fan of hummus
 
you're insane
 
You don't eat the spoon, you know.
 
this coming from a guy who microwaves his cheese sandwiches every time
and eats yoghurt for two meals a day
 
Als
Right now I am eating roasted cashew nuts Yum :)
 
3:27 PM
hummus is the bacon of the vegetable world
yum
 
@DeadMG who you?
 
yes
 
@DeadMG really?
wtf?
 
not sure if you missed the memo
but I've been horrendously sick for the last nine months
 
@DeadMG oh I'm with you on the yoghurt bit, I LOVE yoghurt
@DeadMG no I haven't missed that, so I guess microwaved cheese sandwiches help
 
Als
3:29 PM
@TonyTheTiger: you love a lot of things don't you
Wine
Women
Yogurt
Meat
 
not really, I stopped eating them recently
by recently I mean since I got sick
 
oh ok
 
but I used to eat them a lot
 
@Als yep, that's me
I love C++ too :P
and something else, but I'm not gonna mention that... lol
 
Als
Let me just help you out there
You Love SEX
 
3:31 PM
lol
 
I also love Women, but Women don't love me
 
Als
@DeadMG: huh? You are a pup still?
 
@DeadMG i know that feeling all too well :( it saddens me
 
old enough to want women
 
I know some very nice girls, but I never get further then knowing them :(
I don't think women are attracted to a cripple on crutches
 
Als
3:32 PM
@TonyTheTiger: What is the way in which you want to know them?
 
Knowing them, or knowing them?
 
can't they see what a Geniusâ„¢ I am?
 
@DeadMG if they don't know C++, then perhaps not
 
much too true
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Don't garner our symapthy vote, they don;t like you because you don't ask them
 
3:33 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes knowing them deeply :P
 
Als
How deep is deep?
:P
 
@Als oh... :(
 
@Als ask them if they know C++?
 
@Als DEEP
 
3:33 PM
deep inside, I think
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Deep till you can't go any deeper you mean?:P
 
I think the problem lies in my communication ability with girls
 
Rob
^
 
You: "Hi, do you know C++?" Her: "Ok, my place."
 
3:34 PM
lol
 
Rob
ha.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: The problem is you are horny but not shy when you are here and then when you are with girls you are horny and yet shy about being horny
:P
 
I'm a withdrawn person, even though here it might not seems so
@Als thanks for pointing out my problem :P
 
by the way @Tony
I believe that your problem might be shyness.
 
@DeadMG oh, I thought someone stated that already
 
Rob
3:36 PM
In the eyes of the female, confidence > communication > smarts
 
sure, but you thanked him for it, so I figured I'd state it again for equal praise
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: I think you are a perfectly fine guy just too shy and self conscious i think.
 
yes that
 
@Rob Why the stereotyping?
 
@Als oh self conscious for sure
 
Als
3:37 PM
@TonyTheTiger: You need to let out the inner lust take over your shyness!
and do terrible terrible things
 
even about my C++ ability I'm terribly self conscious, perhaps I judge myself too harshly
 
Rob
@RMartinhoFernandes It not stereotyping, it's a broad yet usually accurate generalization ;)
 
Please don't do that.
 
Als
to the girls ofcourse not yourself
:P
 
heheh
 
3:37 PM
@Rob Why are you defining stereotype?
 
yeah, I don't see how that isn't a stereotype
 
Als
Okay I guess we discussed @TonyTheTiger, problem enough to make him shy even now
 
it's not a stereotype, it's just a stereotype
 
@Als isn't that the point?
why else would you discuss people's problems, if not to make them feel awkward?
 
oh noes it's jalf! run away!
 
Als
3:39 PM
@jalf: Just saying, let us not let it flow till he starts feeling it rough
 
you assholes!
 
yeah, we killed Kenny and we're not sorry
 
Rob
@DeadMG I know it's a stereotype, I was kidding.
 
@Rob You should really stop being so sexist. Chicks really hate that!
 
3:40 PM
Does anyone know how to count the number of characters in a string in Python?
 
Als
@DeadMG: kenny who?
 
Rob
Although that doesn't make it any less true.
 
@yourfriendzak len(foo)
 
Als
uh uh this guy is getting flamed now
:P
 
@jalf thank you sir!
 
3:41 PM
@Als who me?
 
@Als it's a southpark joke
@TonyTheTiger no, Mr Sexist Stereotypes over there
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: No the guy asking Python Q
 
Rob
@JerryCoffin Sexism is part of life, because the sexes are different. I never said anything negative.
 
@Rob that's bs
 
Rob
@jalf How?
 
3:42 PM
@Rob you generalized and it's a statement that doesn't apply to all girls, so it's by definition not true
 
the existence of different sexes does not justify sexism or make sexism unavoidable
 
because the objects of desire for a person tend to be formed based on childhood influence, not gender
 
By the same logic, racism is a "part of life" too
 
more importantly, you'd have to go a long, long way even to prove correlation, let alone causation
 
@Als men have been domesticated by feminism to be safer, unfortunately, it also made them boring. Now women end up with exciting punks and wonder why they can't leave the guy who beats them.
 
Rob
3:43 PM
We have conflicting definitions of sexism.
 
perhaps it's just your personality type to hang around in areas which attract girls of that personality type
 
@Rob I really need to work on my closed captioning for the humor impaired. Could there possibly be a more sexist statement than "Chicks hate that"?
 
Als
@Xaade: Thats an interesting thoughts and answers ~Why women like bad guys?
 
@Rob Maybe. Mine is the correct one
 
Rob
3:44 PM
@Jerry "Guys think with their dicks." I hear that one all the time.
 
@JerryCoffin Maybe one along the lines of "Chicks love that".
 
@Rob this is most often, if not always, true.
 
Rob
BUT IT'S SEXIST OH NO
 
Sexism is when you treat people differently based solely on their sex. That is not "part of life", and it isn't justified by the existence of more than one gender
 
@Rob Two wrongs etc, eye for an eye makes the whole world etc.
 
Als
3:45 PM
uh uh looks like this room might just get locked for the free mention of human genitalia
 
well, it is sexist
I certainly don't think with mine
I have a brain to think with and I use it
 
Als
@DeadMG: I wonder if we can lol
 
Rob
@Luc, I don't see how that applies here.
 
@Rob if you can't communicate with others without offending or degrading half the world's population, you're not worth communicating with
 
Als
@DeadMG: I mean think with the D....
 
3:46 PM
@Als since a dick contains little in the way of general-purpose processing power, I fail to see how you could think with it
3
 
Rob
@jalf How and when did I degrade anyone?
 
generalizations are never sexist / racist and will never be. I think people need to relive the pre-civil rights era, and get a grip on what is sexism/racism
 
Rob
^
 
Als
@DeadMG: yes, well i agree and that is what i was saying
 
Rob
That is what I was trying to get across. I made a generalization, not a negative statement toward the opposite sex.
 
3:46 PM
@Xaade generalizations are the definition of sexism and racism
literally, the definition
 
@DeadMG Bullshit. That's politically correct nonsense.
 
it's not at all bullshit
 
Rob
@DeadMG WRONG
 
oo, caps
 
Rob
You have to discriminate and act on the generalization
 
3:47 PM
that's the best way to make an argument
 
@DeadMG Well, not quite. Sexism or racism is taking some action based on the generalization. The generalization isn't racism in itself.
 
racism is getting a gang of white guys to hunt down a black guy because the color of his skin. Or not promoting a woman even though she's better at the job.
 
@Rob when you generalized about "what females want"?
 
Don't argue on the internet
 
@Xaade Those are just more obvious negative outcomes.
 
3:48 PM
Stop using -isms to protect your thin sleeve.
 
every person needs to be individually appraised
 
-isms are defined by HATE. Not by misunderstandings.
 
Als
We started at food, touched upon @TonyTheTiger's female problems, turned to sexism and now we are at racism
this is hopeless
 
Stop weakening the term.
 
@Rob It's hard to see how "all women are the same, and this is what they're like" is not "a negative statement"
 
3:49 PM
@Als yea, wtf actually???
 
no, -isms are defined by judging people purely based on a minor fact about them
such as gender or race
 
@jalf Yeah, all women have boobs. I hope I didn't offend them.
 
I don't particularly like it when people tell me what I'm like based on how "people" or "men" or "geeks" or whatever, are
 
Rob
@jalf, making a generalization about what someone wants is neither offensive nor degrading. As long as it's recognized as a generalization, I hardly have made a claim that "all women are the same."
 
@DeadMG Fuck no, that's PROFILING.
 
3:49 PM
@Xaade Not all of them, and you probably did offend the women who don't
 
1. Food 2. My problems 3. -isms 4. ??? 5. PROFIT
 
@Rob generalize about yourself then. For others it is
 
@Xaade Transwomen pre hormone therapy might not.
 
Deal with it
 
Stop it already please.
 
3:49 PM
Profiling is a natural response.
 
@Als No, now we are at semantics.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: this is turning lame now, it is just some kids who don't have anything better to do now trying to argue over something
 
@Xaade No, profiling would be conducting a scientific study, and then suggesting statistical majorities might be
 
@Rob You told us what women want/like. That implies that all women want/like the same thing, which implies that they are the same
 
@LucDanton No such thing as transgender. Otherwise I'm a fucking duck without a bill.
 
3:50 PM
stating that all women act a certain way is not a profile, it's a prejudice
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Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: I can't see how it is helping anyone
 
@Als they haven't realized you CAN'T WIN AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET
 
Oh, but you can. If you are a mod.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: :)
true
 
@TonyTheTiger Sure you can. That's what caps are for
 
3:51 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes that's cheating
@jalf :P
 
@DeadMG again, prejudice is tainted with hate. Generalizing is just an uneducated guess.
 
Rob
hahaha.
 
@DeadMG hahahah
 
Gah, sometimes you're just too liberal for me.
 
3:51 PM
@Xaade no, prejudice is just about pre-judging, it never said anything about what that judgement was
 
@jalf Years ago, a lawyer told me: "If the facts are in your favor, argue the facts. If the law is in your favor, argue the law. If neither the facts nor the law is in your favor, argue loudly." Caps are the written equivalent of arguing loudly...
 
Next time you see a guy in a ski mask with a chainsaw running at you with blood on his hands and face, please don't suspect he might kill you. Otherwise, you're committing monsterism.
 
@Rob I don't know many people who don't find generalizations applied to them to be offensive or degrading. You might not be bothered by it, but here's a tip: many others do, so if you want to avid causing offense, don't fucking generalize about what others are like
 
prejudice is just an idea someone has about something, but haven't LOOKED at this situation or thing, and won't change their idea either
 
Als
okay since i don't see anything of this resulting in any conclusion, I am gonna take off
have a good day guys
 
3:53 PM
the significant difference is that there's no threat about actually treating women as individual people, and you can take all the time in the world to do it
 
Als
bye for now.
 
Rob
@Als have a good day.
 
Heaven forbid we use natural instinct to protect yourself. Please, let the bear in the tent, otherwise you're just prejudice against bears.
 
@JerryCoffin at least this chat doesn't have variable font size. ;)
 
instead of "You have like two seconds to form a conclusion and if it's wrong, you're dead."
 
3:53 PM
at least afaik
 
@Als we chased you away?
 
if it does, I don't want to know
 
@Xaade Prejudice doesn't necessarily involve hatred at all. One can just as easily be prejudiced in a positive fashion as a negative one -- e.g., studies have shown that lots of people tend to think of better looking people as also being more intelligent, more honest, and more likable.
3
 
except natural instinct is very often wrong.
and this is a well known case
 
@DeadMG Yeah, but instinct isn't about being right or wrong in a particular case. When under water hold your breath.
 
3:54 PM
no, what instinct tells you to do is often wrong
 
I'm sorry, if I see a guy dressed as a punk, I'm not going to trust him with my house.
 
people have crappy instincts about the trustworthiness of their own eyes and other people, for example
it's a well known fact that quite simply, people don't know wtf they're talking about in many situations
 
there's a saying: "don't judge a book by its cover" I think that applies too
 
But, there's no law forcing you to trust someone.
 
and if there is no immediate problem, then the only correct approach is to apply science
 
Rob
3:55 PM
It's often hard to distinguish between learned habits and instinct.
 
if it helps, our learned habits are frequently wrong too :)
 
Rob
For example, distrusting someone by their appearance is learned, not an instinct.
@jalf Of course :)
 
Point being, it's not wrong to form generalizations, as long as you recognize them as such.
 
besides, there's no immediate problem with distrusting random strangers
 
@Rob there's quite a bit of instinct involved too, I believe
 
3:56 PM
it is completely wrong to form generalizations
 
Rob
@jalf I can agree with that
 
@Xaade No, but the people who are least trustworthy typically work the hardest at covering up that fact. I'd say an obvious "punk" in a T-shirt is a lot more likely to be trustworthy than a guy wearing a suit.
 
@JerryCoffin But that's also a generalization.
 
no, it's a scientific fact
 
You've learned to subvert your obvious instinct in favor of one that's proven more reliable. Thus forming another generalization you use to protect yourself.
 
3:57 PM
how many con artists dress like punks?
 
If everyone distrusted suits enough, con artists may dress like punks.
 
compare to how many guys in a suit are untrustworthy?
 
@Xaade Yup, sure is.
 
true, but they don't
 
Oh, gah. @DeadMG is going to preach to me about how bad generalizations are, while forming one, to disprove my generalization, to show that punks aren't generally untrustworthy.
 
3:59 PM
I never said they aren't
 
I've met some people that I considered very trustworthy and it turned out they were backstabbers, if I had to judge them by looks alone, I wouldn't have labelled them backstabbers, but it turned out they were
 
all I said is that @Jerry would have a valid point if he said that most or all con artists do not dress like punks
 
Fact is, forming generalizations are a inherent part of your psyche. You cannot stop from doing that. Ever.
 
I don't see why not
you're generalizing to prove that I can't stop forming a generalization
 

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