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10:00 PM
@melak47 lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol at msvc fail or lol at my code? :D
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 first cockment.
 
@melak47 lol at you still trying :P
 
@rightfold my script blocker blocked youtube comments. I don't miss them
@R.MartinhoFernandes any idea how I can try to work around the ICE? ;_;
 
a 15x15, hm?
That'd be like one turn/30 seconds :\
Getting them to align is a pain.
Not to mention the internal mechanics.
 
10:02 PM
it seems to be barfing at the arguments((void(*)(Args...))nullptr) part
 
@DeadMG you mentioned crafting my own functor with SBO. Does this look like a reasonable implementation?
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow So, I'm half-way through Milewski's talk, and I have to say, I actually like how he approached monads. He's slurring on some parts, though.
 
@Jefffrey anyway, I might put this AI on the side for a bit, and add some sounds.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol nevermind.
 
What was it?
 
10:03 PM
arguments<void(*)(Args...)>(nullptr) works fine :p
 
Should I have a movement sound?
 
but wait..that makes no sense. I don't take a function pointer as a template argument?!
 
Xeo
Okay, somebody asked if it wouldn't be useful to have a function Maybe a -> (a -> b) -> Maybe b, and now Milewski and some other guy from the audience are arguing how the middle function should be lifted...
Poor sods in the audience that don't understand Haskell
 
Hey I have a few questions on where to begin exactly
 
@JeremyFrancis at the beginning
 
Xeo
10:07 PM
@JeremyFrancis Prolly not here
 
Excellent idea but not exactly my question
I program in C++ already but my question is not entirely C++ related
As there is no chat groups for C nor Objective C
 
I am under threat of being smacked to not answer your question.
 
So I thought I'd raise my questions here
 
Xeo
@JeremyFrancis Stopstopstop
Nope
We're not interested in Objective C and especially not C
 
Stop?
 
Xeo
10:08 PM
This is not the place to ask your questions
 
Ok cool because my question is Objective C related
 
Xeo
not interested
 
oh
well then
Ill ask it in such a way that its C++ related
 
Xeo
...
 
user1804599
We are not interested in C++ either.
 
Xeo
10:09 PM
right under the topic
 
It'll still be an Objective-C question.
 
So if I were to begin in C++ but minus ++...
 
And still a question.
And yeah, :v
 
user1804599
So if I were you I’d get out.
 
10:10 PM
Ok ill ask this properly, can C++ do iOS?
 
I think Objective-C++ can~
 
zch
68
Q: Is it possible to program iPhone in C++

Dmitri NesterukI'm all for language diversity, but Objective C is insane. So I'm curious: is it possible to code iPhone apps with C++ while using the Cocoa API, etc?

 
I got to use that excuse someday.
 
that was a leading off question to my next
 
zch
I literally googled ", can C++ do iOS?"
 
user1804599
10:11 PM
Stop feeding the vampire.
 
Thats not really my question i am just trying to refrain from C and Objective C since u apparently dislike to discuss them
 
Because C is terrible.
 
@JeremyFrancis Our game engine runs on iOS and it's written entirely in C++.
 
If I were to begin with iOS development which language should I begin with?
 
(well, almost entirely)
 
10:12 PM
@JeremyFrancis We love to discuss them (but not in any practical way -- only about how much we despise them and, especially, everybody who uses them).
 
user1804599
FSharrppe
 
Yes @Jef
I uderstand that but
 
Xeo
@JeremyFrancis I told you to not ask questions, jeezuz
 
Unless related to C++ :)
 
Even then
 
10:13 PM
Is anyone here iOS dev who can answer the simplest question
 
Xeo
is not related to any language
 
@rightfold do vampires eat?
 
Xeo
we just don't like random questions in here
fucking hell
 
zch
@Pawnguy7, they drink
 
user1804599
@JeremyFrancis No.
 
10:13 PM
Its not random
Ok thank you rightfold finally someone has helped me
 
@JeremyFrancis If they are and can, a question on SO with is a lot more likely to get their (positive) attention than a question here.
 
i have trouble finding chat rooms for what I need, but hopefully I can find a helpful area
Thanks and bye people
 
user1804599
If you need anything, don’t go to Lounge<C++>.
 
Got that
 
Xeo
Ewwww, Milewski uses exceptions for control flow :<
 
10:20 PM
@Xeo Who?
 
@Borgleader Bartosz Milewski
 
Xeo
int compose(int v){
  auto v1 = f(v);
  auto v2 = g(v1);
  auto v3 = h(v2);
  return v3;
}

// call site
try{
  compose(3);
}catch(...){
  // error handling
}
As his "equivalent" to do-notation in Haskell :<
With Maybe as the example
I liked the part on monads until this point. Meh.
 
@Xeo Start a blog, make a better post than his and trash him ;)
 
Xeo
0
Q: Why is there no std::clear in c++11 standard library

Kevin MOLCARDSince there are now generic iterator on c++ standard library like std::begin and std::end, I am wondering why there is no std::clear method to clear a container?

haha
"Why is there no std::<member function of containers> in stdlib?"
 
@Xeo well, there's member swap and std::swap, member begin and std::begin etc. :)
@Xeo Haskell has messed up his mind :/
 
10:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes now I have something that works in MSVC but doesn't in clang.
 
He'll be thrilled :) Are you compiling Ogonek on MSVC?
 
@Xeo Oh, not Vlad.
 
nah :p
 
Ell
@Xeo but this is all I think about generic code o.O Why not make everything a free function?
...like php :3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but thanks to your neat type traits, making it work again in clang was easy :D
 
Ell
10:42 PM
 
Why is there no std::mmo
To be generic, they just have to implement Diablo 3
 
10:58 PM
@sehe looks ugly.
 
[Anon explains why horny horses are better than women] http://t.co/TTB9uQWkaJ
This guy is bitter.
 
About?
 
That joke (or variation thereof) is older than the internet except with Horse turned into another noun.
 
Ell
having a douche girlfriend
 
11:16 PM
posted on November 25, 2013

It's possible to handle continuous events from an Arduino. Let's see how.

 
How does feeds work?
 
@Pawnguy7 There's a list somewhere on the room settings.
We put URLs to RSS feeds there and voila.
 
Ah. I was thinking, how could you parse different blogs.
It occurs to me I know nothing about RSS.
 
The blogs have to publish their contents using a predefined XML format.
The parser just has to parse xml of this format.
 
Ell
I think OP microwaved mouse
 
11:42 PM
@Pawnguy7 do you use the mouse to drive the snake?
or a keyboard?
 
Keyboard.
Note that you can only go in the four cardinal directions.
I am not certain how mouse control would work in this situation.
 
Ell
you should make fully free snake next
 
360 degree movement, you mean?
 
Ell
yeah
 
Hrm...
I think I am nearly snaked-out :D
 
zch
11:50 PM
Zatacka!
 
Was that the tron thing?
 
zch
Tron was 4-directions
 
The origional, yes.
I mean to say.
The Tron-like mechanic of...permanent tails.
 
zch
Yes
 
Ell
ughh
programming is hard :(
graphics are really hard
 
11:53 PM
I think it would be fun to play A) with real players, B) dat neon, and C), with this free movement, yes.
I just don't really feel like making it.
I was actually considering Pong, for this reason.
It occurs to me, making a polished game takes a long time.
 
zch
@Ell You can still choose to work at McDonalds.
 
Now, I have not done very well in this area. It basically consists of colored squares.
But I was thinking, pong has... about the minimal number of elements a game could have.
So I could see how polished I could make it.
 
Ell
@Pawnguy7 Making a polished anything takes a long time
 
zch
Zatacka is very fun to play, with 4 players at one keyboard :)
 
Ell
heck, making a rough anything takes a long time
 
11:55 PM
@zch is that how it is played?
 
zch
Each playing with two fingers
 
Oh. I had been thinking it was some sort of online multiplayer.
 
zch
There is Netacka, but it doesn't really feel that nice
 
> The source code is an ugly hack, but the game has been a success in my school.
 
How long is "a long time." A well implemented algorithm can be made in a day.
 
11:57 PM
@Polymer algorithm for what?
 
That's why I said a day >_>, I was intentionally vague.
but most algorithms I think with and use frequently are generally not that complicated.
 
@Ell this has been true in my experience. I notice, though, I don't seem to... try, if that makes sense.
For example, I am fond of reading through... basically blogs on the progress of somebody making a game.
They don't make the skeleton like me.
They integrate good graphics at the same time.
I have not dabbled much in the area of, say, transitions, so I thought it would be fun to see what I could accomplish.
 

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