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11:00 PM
OT: I hope this is the correct way to set DNS servers manually:
 
@rdlowrey appreciate it, I'll happily give you feedback.
 
It is, on the other hand Google knows waaay to much about me already.
 
^ that
@ŠimeVidas you may also change the default DNS server in your router
 
No porn for me from now on haha
 
11:02 PM
@rdlowrey I did a very crappy prototype that was actually using silex. quite the hack. one issue was that forcing it to be async didn't quite work with the request/response model. but the main issue was that the underlying HTTP server implementation was (and still is) way too incomplete.
 
@HamZa My router config is crappy. Don't see DNS config:
 
not sure if you ever looked at how async ruby servers made rack work async, it is quite ugly. sending magic status codes of -1 and then using some callable that is invoked later on. really not ideal imo.
 
@ŠimeVidas well there is DNS in the lines, but that's just an overview. Take a look at "advanced"
 
Anonymous
No one in the entire SO gives newbie-friendly answer than @DaveRandom
 
@HamZa In advanced, I have Dynamic DNS and DNS proxy
 
11:06 PM
If you'd like your own setup similar to Stack Exchange's then feel free to contact Alan at alan@imgur.com. Otherwise, you're probably not supposed to be on this page... :|
 
@NokImchen What?
This is public chat
 
@ŠimeVidas You probably want the "Internet Connection" on the left, or LAN settings, wherever they are
 
@ŠimeVidas well, just forget about it since you don't want to change that. You only want to change your own preference for your own PC
 
@ŠimeVidas sorry, i removed the tag :)
 
@HamZa Yes, it seems to work for now.
 
11:08 PM
@ŠimeVidas What's the actual use case for changing your DNS settings? It's not something you should need to do in the normal way of things
 
@DaveRandom I've installed Windows 8.1 Preview. Apparently, it has issues with DNS caching (see here). The conn works for a while and then just stops working but only for new domains I want to visit. I did that troubleshooting dialog, and it told me that DNS is unresponsive or something.
So, for instance, I visit imgur.com and it loads successfully. After 5 min, I try to open google.com but the site doesn't load. However, I can still surf imgur.com just fine.
 
@ŠimeVidas Sounds like a bug in the DNS resolver service, which is fixed by rebinding, in which case just running ipconfig /flushdns in an elevated command prompt whenever it stops working should fix it. You could always set up a scheduled task to just do that once a minute, much easier than having reconfig it all the time. But tbh if it's a dev preview, maybe just roll back to stable. After all, it is a dev preview...
 
@HamZa can i ask u something regarding compression? i know, Don't ask whether someone is here to help you but since ppl are kinda annoyed with this compression stuff, i just wanna take ur permission before i ask for your opinion..
 
@NokImchen I'm not good at it
 
@HamZa not about the algo and help. Just wanna know is it worth IF an algo can compress just 0.03% but that algo can compress any file for unlimited number of times and reduces 0.03% every time.
 
11:18 PM
@DaveRandom I'm on 8.1 Preview because it's free haha. I own a license for Win 7, but not 8. And I really want to check out the new stuff in 8/8.1, so I'll stick with this preview. Using Google's DNS severs seems to have resolved the issue for me.
 
@NokImchen impossibru!
 
@NokImchen exactly what @DaveRandom said
 
That implies that any given block of data can be reduced to a single byte
 
i'm making that *impossible* into possible :|
i also know the entrophy and pigeon hole theory. I know its impossible. But my research says that its *possible*.
 
@ŠimeVidas From what I've read on that forum, changing the DNS servers will only fix it temporarily
 
11:19 PM
Crap
 
@DaveRandom oops! the limitation is like 256 kb + info abt the number of compression.
 
@NokImchen You still can't reduce 15GB of data to 256KB.
 
ok, thats it. I'm out. Have to code a lot to make it possible :|
@DaveRandom lets see....
 
Well, have fun failing to implement the mathematically impossible, I'm going to bed.
Nite @all
 
@DaveRandom goodnight :)
 
11:22 PM
hahaha
 
Well, you can compress 15GB of NULL bytes quite a lot, just not any 15GB of data..
 
@NokImchen I think you lost your common sense
 
@HamZa i knw. I'm talking like mental. But my two algos seems to work theoritically. I'll code and let u know within 5 days. I have got my 2nd algo to code. I just finished coding my 1st algo.
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom You didn't fall for my boobie-trap
 
11:25 PM
@NokImchen Well it's like Dave said.You can't compress random data several times until 1b
 
Anonymous
Oh, darn - night
 
@HamZa ya, i knw, 1b is impossible. But the "entrophy" is actually very less. And most algo dont even reach to half of it, i think. So may be there is an algo out there that can get maximum compression... or may be i'm just being mentally sick :|
 
Well, maximum compression is storing an id of the data in the compressed data, and the actual data in the decrompression algorthem. Hey presto ;)
(whish is a roundabout way of saying that with a lot of knowledge about what data you are trying to compress you can achieve quite a better compression then 'general' algortihms)
 
Well personally I would spend my time elsewhere instead of desperately trying to invent an algo without knowing anything about the subject
 
Hello
@NokImchen You're not mentally sick but I don't think you don't understand yet that compression can be very hard.
@NokImchen I suggest you start with the basics.. nothing like hello world I bet you know that but something that will be useful
 
11:38 PM
i can be very hard. Yes, thats y i'm having sleepless night. I have seens atleast 8 sorting algos. Few compression algos. And all seems to be bad :|
So, now, i'm having my own home-made algos :P. And thank u a lot, u r morally motivating me a lot :)
 
@NokImchen No problem :)
@NokImchen That's how I started to code.. starting with the hardest LOL
 
@NokImchen You want to hear "yeah it's possible", but reality is different
 
"hello world? :|
i'll do the compression within 3 days if possible. Just now (few mins back), i have realized that my algos can do better cos i dont need delimiter/separator between blocks :)
i'll smoke a bit and start coding :)
 
@NokImchen I said ' nothing like hello world I bet you know that but something that will be useful'
 
@l0oky lol, ya, i started with VBA, it was fun making macros :D
 
11:41 PM
@NokImchen Do you know with what I started with?
 
@l0oky hello word or a odd/even number finder? :P
 
@NokImchen If you guess what programming language I started with well.. good job :D
@NokImchen no im talking about language
 
@l0oky well, must be BASIC :P
 
@NokImchen Nope
 
@l0oky then?
 
11:42 PM
@NokImchen try guessing
@NokImchen name a list of programming languages that you think i started with
:D
 
@l0oky lol, javascript? vb6? c? c++? c#? php? pascal?
java?
 
nothing
no
 
oh :(
 
:)
 
:P
are we spamming? :P
nope! we are chatting :P
 
11:44 PM
You wanna know what language I started with? .... Foxpro
 
yes, tell :)
 
I bet you haven't heard of it
It's database oriented programming language
its really easy
 
ooohh! i never learnt that! Is it a programming language? :|
oh, its like mysql?
 
and high level programming language
@NokImchen Not quite
 
@l0oky is it faster than ms acces?
 
11:45 PM
@NokImchen But you can directly use select commands and sql commands
not in a string
 
@l0oky you are definitely talking about some other "foxpro"
because the one i know is a crime against humanity
 
@l0oky hmmmm.... i dontkn anything more than vb6, javascript, mt4 and php
 
looooool
 
@tereško Foxpro is the best programming language ever..
 
@l0oky just because it's easy ?
 
11:47 PM
@l0oky of course ... and i am a marsupial
 
The one who's against me is wrong.
@HamZa No not because of that, I mean not only because of that
 
oh well .. my ignore list was getting too short anyway
 
@tereško What version of foxpro you used is 'crime against humanity'
 
don tknw whats going on.. :|
anyways, i'm out, time for *coding*
 
@tereško actually all versions of foxpro are great
 
Anonymous
11:49 PM
If I could write down every name and programming terms mentioned in this room day to day, I would forever walk on a pile of books.
 
Anonymous
having said that, WTF! is foxpro
 
It had the first Windows like UI. After that microsoft bought it and made Windows with simmilar UI
Visual FoxPro is a data-centric object-oriented procedural programming language produced by Microsoft. It is derived from FoxPro (originally known as FoxBASE) which was developed by Fox Software beginning in 1984. Fox Technologies merged with Microsoft in 1992, after which the software acquired further features and the prefix "Visual". The last version of FoxPro (2.6) worked under Mac OS, DOS, Windows, and Unix: Visual FoxPro 3.0, the first "Visual" version, reduced platform support to only Mac and Windows, and later versions were Windows-only. The current version of Visual FoxPro is COM-...
 
There are many people still using it and making awesome programs...
 
@Simon_eQ it's a programming language by microsoft that was a precursor (if i recall it correctly) to excel ... or maybe MS bought it ... i'm a bit vague on details
 
11:54 PM
because it's not developed anymore it's outdated and it's only the matter of time foxpro developers are forced to .NET
@tereško Lier!
 
Anonymous
Never heard of it before. It must be a dying language. Microsoft + A Programming Lang these days ring the C# bell
 
@Simon_eQ Yes! Do you know why Foxpro is not supported anymore?
 
both excel and foxpro used to be there. I had foxpro too when i had visual studio or something. It came as a package..
 
Anonymous
@l0oky I don't want to know.
 
Pff, still a market for Cobol, still a market for Foxpro. Rarer, but very good money dabbling in old languages...
 
11:57 PM
@NokImchen Do not compare excel with foxpro :D
LOL
 
Have somebody used Poedit or something to compile PHP to .po files?
 
Almost every complex database application can be made in foxpro
still today..
 
@l0oky i have no idea abt fxpro. But just saying that fxpro is the old version of excel is NOT true. Cos foxpro and excel both were there at the same time :)
@l0oky just supporting u :)
 

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