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12:17 AM
Undo and I are fellow moderators on Software Recommendations. SR gets most of the same issues as SO, just on a smaller scale. Having worked with him for over a year, I can vouch that he is a competent, level-headed and active moderator, and I'm sure that he will make an excellent moderator on SO.
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2:04 AM
Wow, thank you @Gilles. I've loved working with you and Journeyman on SR ;)
Brings up a related topic that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet: I do intend to continue on SR and HR if I'm elected here.
 
@Undo cough cough overachiever :P
 
@michaelpri They're both relatively tiny commitments... and it's nice to have a place to go and be able to say, "I have done everything I can here today!"
Because one could never say that on SO
And they're just fun sites with good people.
 
2:42 AM
I like how we have moderator elections.
 
3:26 AM
Hehe, it's fun when you realise you know someone in the moderator elections :)
 
:D
 
4:13 AM
Hey there. As some of you may know, I posted a question on meta.so which generated some length of comments and reactions about an edit from a candidate. http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310795/did-a-user-running-for-a-moderator-position-really-approve-this-edit?noredirect=1#comment274642_310795

All the comments and open close status made me realize this had deeper impact than I suspected.

I'm not exactly sure what I'm asking for here, but I see there has been very few involvement from mods and candidates. I'd like to have some of your thoughts. Have I been downright rude?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I think it's good to ask those kinds of questions
Most candidates, myself included, probably don't want to criticize another candidate in public.
 
understandably so
 
When someone is running in an election, they're opening themselves up to that kind of question - for good reason, we want to know who we're electing
I probably would have worded it a little differently, but I don't find your question offensive or rude at all.
 
the primary wording was even worse. I was close to deleting it when I removed some really bad parts and some people started to actually support the thing.
 
@Undo this.
 
4:19 AM
I'd like to see more people ask things like that, actually.
 
Well, for now I'll leave that to some other anon :p. I've been enough of the bad guy for one election...
 
4:31 AM
Howdy, y'all.
 
Hi @EdC!
 
For the record, I agree with @Undo's comments above. @FélixGagnon-Grenier, your comments were totally fair game.
Glad to see this room picking up a bit; it was pretty quiet this weekend.
 
4:46 AM
it needs some good pick up lines ;)
 
Do you know how much a polar bear weights?...
... enough to break the ice! The name's [insert name]
(apologies for being off-topic)
 
haha nice.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Ha, wow.
 
By the way, good job @candidates. You are making it really difficult to choose only three.
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6:18 AM
hi All
I have doubt on how to cast vote 2015 Moderator Election. Can any one guide me?
 
@SandeepMaram what appears to be the problem?
 
Hello everyone
 
by stackoverflow.com/election url I can see 2015 Moderator Election.
But I unable to understand how to caste/
 
@AnilSingh hi there
@SandeepMaram you can vote for up to three candidates in order of preference using the 1st choice, 2nd choice and 3rd choice buttons to the left of each candidate's profile
 
@JonClements Got it. Thanks man
 
6:33 AM
Good morning guys
 
heya @rekire
 
What did I miss? :)
 
Nothing that I'm aware of - been hectic the last couple of days, so I'd imagine people here are more up to date than I am
 
Hey rekire and Jon! It's been fairly quiet in here since the end of the primary.
 
Yeah... no ticking counters and such...
How's everyone's nerves holding :p
 
6:48 AM
yeah lol
I'm wondering how many people read that text:
 
@JonClements Decently :). Has the election chat been more active in the past?
 
I don't now... I've normally been too busy panicking at this stage :)
I think it's just generally slower after the primaries...
 
18519 voters so far btw
 
7:05 AM
Think it's slightly looking up on the votes from earlier this year then - not bad at all
 
@JonClements Yeah, about 10% higher voter turnout in the primaries compared to last time. I actually very nearly missed the nomination period of the election -- I was traveling with limited internet until the last few hours of the period.
 
yesterday, by Undo
@josilber "272,611 voters were eligible, 149,240 visited the site during the election, 78,870 visited the election page, and 27,019 voted" for the early 2015 election
 
@rekire Yeah, so I'd guess we might expect about 30k votes this time around in the final phase of the election.
 
I'm really interested in the final results I have no idea on which place I will end
 
Be interesting to see what the victims results will be :p
 
7:12 AM
@JonClements Definitely anxiously awaiting the result release! Luckily it looks like the results get posted pretty much immediately after the end of the voting period.
 
Yeah... they're remarkably swift :)
(famous last words - they have been the last few times anyway!)
 
7:53 AM
All right, bed time for me. Later!
 
 
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10:45 AM
It would be good to have a field where the candidates are based out of
More mods are needed from South asia so they can be active during those timezones
 
True aspect but AFIK there are at least two German candidates.
 
11:13 AM
Hi all. Is there a place where the question of gender diversity in SO Moderator Election candidates has been discussed?
SE, not SO, sorry.
 
11:49 AM
Good point
 
12:18 PM
@ganeshran I'll happily accept your vote - I'm in the APAC region :)
It does tend to balance out though - while SEA might not have a huge representation (I think it might be only BoltClock, and Bohemian in Australia) there's normally enough overlap from other areas to kinda cover it.
@smonff Do you have a particular question or issue?
 
@slugster Yes, is there some debate, commitments, or informations I should know about gender diversity in Moderators community?
 
There has been Meta discussion about gender from time to time, and I've seen it mentione din the context of moderators. There's been one female SO mod that I recall and she now works for SE. In fact SE has achieved a very diverse staff.
As for gender participation on other SE sites in general - obviously SO tends to be very male dominated, but that can change drastically for other sites depending on the subject matter.
But even though SO is heavily male dominated, the overriding policy is to be reasonably gender neutral, which makes it easier to fulfill things like the be nice policy, and avoids having a toxic vibe that would deter females from actively participating.
 
12:43 PM
@slugster I already voted for you :)
It would be good to have some mod slots reserved for women, so there is more gender diversity in the leadership. And have this diversity trickle down to the user base as well
 
@ganeshran Thanks, it's appreciated :)
I'm more a fan of letting the diversity grow organically, I think trying to engineer it is a lost cause. I think there's now more members identifying as female, but in general there's few females in programming. Conversely the testing profession (at least in this part of the world) is probably 60-70% female.
So while it would be great to see more females programming (and consequently participating on SO), I'm not sure that overt diversity agendas will fix the problem - if they're just not interested in programming then you can't make them do it :)
Alriiiiiiight..... time for some sleep. Good night everyone.
 
1:01 PM
Please do not talk such shits. Gender diversity should never be a subject anyway.
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Anyone is welcome on our site who has got interest in programming.
Never Mind that word "S" word! SCNR!
 
1:25 PM
@ganeshran That's the most flawed and convoluted thing I've heard of today. No.
 
 
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2:30 PM
@slugster this is not something related to SO, males do dominate a lot of things and this is a big problem. I agree with the policy of neutrality, and it is quite well respected here, but you can never be totally neutral, especially when you are not especially educated about these kind of problems.
 
@slugster the part of female in programmers is not a fixed thing: in the past there was much more women in programming and it is very likely to change.
 
2:45 PM
Personally, I don't feel it's a huge issue. We should stamp out sexism in STEM fields for sure, but I don't want a woman to be a moderator unless she earns it through community voting. Setting aside slots means a potentially unqualified mod can enter, sheerly because the spot was reserved for her
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No. Equality is equality. They're allowed to run for mod, I know plenty of women I would vote for here to be a mod.
 
2:58 PM
There's definitely a gender balance problem, but I don't think reserved-slots-for-women is the way to go here.
I'd be concerned that you'll make folks bitter when a minority kicks them out of a position they think they worked hard for, and deserve - and that isn't going to make anyone happy.
There are plenty of women I would vote for in a heartbeat here
 
3:25 PM
Thanks for your answers all. I will take a look at the existing threads about the gender question on SE, because it is maybe a bit unrelated to the election to talk more about this here. I don't think reserved-slots-for-women is the solution for sure, and I wasn't especially pointing women anyway when talking about gender in the beginning, but all various genders. Good luck to all @candidates
 
Thanks @smonff! I do hope we can come up with a way to make ourselves more welcoming to women
I wonder if we just need a zero-tolerance policy (even more than we have now) on folks that use... strong language and such.
Except that's been floated before and shot down, so I'm not sure what the answer is.
There probably isn't a silver bullet - the 'answer' will probably be a bunch of different changes that build on each other.
 
Hi all.
 
Howdy
 
@Undo Whether there is an official zero-tolerance policy or not, in practice there is zero tolerance
When I encounter sexism I make it rain suspensions :p
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I guess it depends on what you consider "zero-tolerance" though
Any moderator will definitely clean up that crap when they see it, but there isn't necessarily a "punishment" associated with it, beyond having your comments deleted
 
3:53 PM
@meagar Definitely.
I generally do too on my sites, but it's wonderfully rare on SR/HR, so it hasn't been much of an issue
 
4:06 PM
One more day.
@JonClements Well, I think my nerves are still there. I guess that's something.
 
@Undo This is yet another good reason to hide vote totals during the actual election: so the candidates can get some real work done.
Almost 24k votes.
 
4:29 PM
pokes Undo to test nerves
@JonClements I remember it used to take up to a week to get everything sorted. That was a long time ago though.
 
@Seth AAAACK what'd you do that for?
walks away shaking
 
@Seth That sounds awful.
 
@EdCottrell Yeah. No idea what the holdup was. That was when I had just joined the site so everything was still new to me.
@Undo ;p
 
@EdCottrell What is this 'real work' you speak of?
 
@Seth imagine what'd happen if SO had to fail over to another data centre and the election stuff gets lost in the move and we have to do this all again... :p
 
4:34 PM
I thought it was election season.
@JonClements stop talking about that >:(
 
@Undo ^
 
@JonClements oh please don't D:
 
Or... we all try and convince Shog to not announce anything until the weekend :p
 
You're loving this, aren't you @JonClements?
 
I don't possibly know what you mean? whistles innocently
 
4:38 PM
@JonClements It is a holiday in the US. We don't want to stress out the new mods by making them work on SO instead of spending time with family.
 
wait, it is?
 
@Seth Thanksgiving
 
Thursday is Thanksgiving
 
Or 'turkey day', as Food Network apparently likes to call it now
 
oh the weekend is, right. I thought you meant today was a holiday :P
 
4:39 PM
@Seth It's the Monday before Thanksgiving. That counts, right?
 
I wish :/
 
It's Thanksgiving Eve Eve Eve
 
@EdCottrell You realize you can edit gists right?
(re: your userscript on the MSO questionnaire)
 
@Seth Yes, why?
 
@Undo ham is superior!
 
4:42 PM
@EdCottrell just curious why you posted the update in a new comment instead of just editing the gist..
 
@Seth I did both. I just wanted to flag the error fix for anyone who had run into it.
@Seth The gist should be current.
 
@EdCottrell ah.
cool.
 
 
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6:04 PM
Never mind :|
 
 
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9:10 PM
For anyone wondering, with 23 hours left, > 24.3k votes have been cast (see stackoverflow.com/help/badges/1974?page=1; pre-election count was 69,039 badges awarded).
April's total was 27k.
 
14 hours ago, by rekire
18519 voters so far btw
so there where 5.8k within the last 14 hours
 
@rekire That's pretty quick, IMHO.
Primary voting would indicate we'll get to around 30k; that pace definitely leaves room to get there.
 
we will see...
 
@rekire indeed!
 
in this context gn8 ;) I'll post an update in about 10 hours
 
9:31 PM
Good morning fellas
 
@slugster Good afternoon!
 
@EdCottrell All the best for when the election closes, it was looking promising for you :)
 
@slugster Thanks! We'll see. There are a lot of great candidates. :)
 
 
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11:42 PM
@EdCottrell How's it feel to be looking at the end of your last close-vote-limited UTC day?
 

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