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05:29
@RyanM I feel like the movie Oppenheimer is a good example of what happens when you don't do that. It crams so many people that show up, like, once or twice. They were real people and even prominent. For example, you can see Enrico Fermi (who coined the Fermi Paradox) for, like, maybe a sum total of a minute. Other people appear for a short time then re-appear an hour later.
At least I struggled to keep track of who is supposed to be who or what relevance they even had.
 
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12:47
Oppenheimer's on my list. Can't believe I haven't watched it yet tbh.
 
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15:28
@Spevacus Honestly, I wasn't impressed. I found the pacing to be a bit chaotic. It jumps between several periods of Oppenheimer's life and follows several threads - some in the past, some in the future. It's sometimes hard to keep track when exactly does a scene take place related to other scenes. The huge number of characters was also an issue for me. As I said, some show up once or twice apparently just so they can be on camera.
The movie being really long doesn't help, either. I think cutting out ~1 hour of the movie and focusing it would be of a big benefit.
I mean, it's a movie that's still put together well. It's not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination. But I think it was too long and hard to really follow. The Chernobyl series I think nailed everything. Oppenheimer seems to want to be Chernobyl (as in short series) instead it's one long one.
Yeah that runtime length and complexity is a limiting factor in my fiance and I watching it together. She struggles to stay engaged the deeper things go, whereas I really enjoy that kind of stuff (though I do have my limits)
I've heard those criticisms about the movie before and don't doubt their validity.
But yeah, Chernobyl is faaaaantastic
15:46
Yeah, I think she won't like the movie. It's not really "cerebral". I mean, I've seen Primer and that's a movie which can tax the ol' grey matter. Memento is also a movie that challenges you but at least once you get into its rhythm you can keep pace. Oppenheimer is just a multitude of vignettes of Oppenheimer's life. From various parts of it. I think it's long for the sake of being long, not because it is needed to tell the story it wanted.
It's challenging to keep track not because it's complex or requires some deep understanding. It's just long, with lots of stuff happening and some scenes just don't lead anywhere. Or rather, are there so some historic character can show up.
Game of Thrones is also a long show with lots of characters. But at least you get to understand the characters more than "He existed".
16:28
Shame about how they tossed all the work fleshing out those characters after s5...
17:25
Finally:
17:43
@Spevacus Yep. That's when I stopped watching it. Well, I know there are 5 books and each season was based on a book. So, at S6 they diverged. The quality was noticeably lower. I finished S6 just to confirm I didn't need to watch any more. From general comments I've heard since - seems I made the right decision.

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