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12:57 AM
NAA of the day: "The primary objective of monetary policy in the euro area is to ensure price stability. In other words, the key task of the Bank of Greece, within the Eurosystem, is to preserve the purchasing power of the euro."
Yes, on Stack Overflow. No, it had nothing to do with the question.
Yes, it's plagiarized from the Bank of Greece's website.
 
 
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3:13 AM
Nice change of pace to have something plagiarized from a different source.
 
Always nice to be able to red-flag nuke plagiarism.
I usually want to ;-)
 
3:38 AM
@VLAZ What you need to do is block the automatic removal of comments from the page within the userscript.
If you don't do this, you will inevitably run into other race conditions, like if a mod handles one of the comments you've flagged right after you flagged it, while you're still reading other comments and/or queuing up flags on them.
Or even if anyone happens to delete one of the comments, such as the author of it, or a moderator who happens by.
I would gray-out (or modify the opacity of) deleted comments.
The mod userscripts for comment deletion do this, although they have the nice prior art of how the system already shows deleted comments to mods to build atop of.
The same background (the one which nobody seems to be able to agree as to its color) that is used for deleted posts is used here.
 
4:27 AM
@CodyGray Yep, that's what I'm doing now. I was actually doing more work to hide them before. When you sent the HTTP request for a flag, the response has a boolean tells you whether the comment was deleted or not, so initially I just removed the comment accordingly. Then I just dropped this functionality when I saw how it worked. But changing the way the comment is presented is actually pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion :)
 
Removing the comment is annoying, in my opinion, because it makes things move around on the page.
That's why the mod comment deletion userscripts don't remove them, because it makes it more difficult to read a comment exchange and selectively delete comments (which is something I always do).
 
 
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5:38 AM
+--------+--------------------+--------------------+ |deviceId| connected_dt| disconnected_dt| +--------+--------------------+--------------------+ | X|2022-06-15 02:35:...| null| | Y|2022-06-16 13:30:...|2022-06-17 20:15:...| | A|2022-06-16 05:30:...| null| | B|2022-06-17 07:30:...|2022-06-19 04:35:...| | P|2022-06-20 07:15:...|2022-06-21 05:30:...| +--------+--------------------+--------------------+ can you try with this dataset? — Emvundiley 2 hours ago
whyyy
 
It's not their fault that your stupid comments don't allow fancy formatting!
 
I feel like they should have noticed by the second or third comment they posted with ASCII tables.
 
Table formatting for comments, please
 
You said: automatic deletion of comments attempting to use table formatting?
 
Technically, I did, yes
 
5:42 AM
I'm trying out a new auto-correct function
 
I was just going to follow up with "so that they can be detected and deleted"
 
It tries to figure out what people are thinking
Unfortunately, it's still no good at figuring out when people are done writing chat messages
So it results in many chat messages being interspersed.
 
snerk
 
Err...
The boffins don't invent letters
Did you notice an unfortunate lack of a "Nuke As: WTF" option?
 
On the one hand it's definitely R/A, so helpful flag to the person who sent one. On the other hand, I was amused and they deleted it before I got there, so I'm not undeleting it to nuke it :-p
 
5:44 AM
It seems like a very bad idea
I mean... if there was a letter for "ausages", how would I write "sausage"?
 
Yeah, it should really be a letter for "ausage"
 
We would then need a letter that means "subtract one phoneme from the previous grapheme"?
 
Then you can write sþs, or just sþ.
You have options.
 
Well, except that thorn already has a meaning
So that's one option too many
I feel like this wasn't very well thought through
 
Well, yes. It's clearly a placeholder until the Unicode consortium gets around to adding it.
 
5:46 AM
Ah
Well, I would certainly vote for them doing something other than inventing/adding more emojis.
 
How many boffins do we pay for Unicode to add the sounds we want?
 
How long has it been since they've added any actual sounds to Unicode?
 
It might be better to encode it as a[ZWJ]u[ZWJ]s[ZWJ]a[ZWJ]g[ZWJ]e for backwards compatibility, though.
 
Is there a concern that it would be readily confused with "assuage"?
 
I'd like to buy some. For example, I'd like a symbol that stands for "cat purring".
 
Actually, can they expand a bit from just making sounds into symbols? Can we get maybe a symbol for "the smell of freshly made pie"?
 
They have one: "pie".
It's evocative.
 
Unrelated: this is, um, unfortunate. stackoverflow.com/… - any Drupal developers want to get really swole?
 
But it doesn't necessarily mean "freshly made". And adding that is so much time.
Think of all the things I can do if I could save that 1-2 seconds every time I wrote the phrase.
That would be, let me think, about 1-2 seconds a year.
 
How much differently does it smell when it's "freshly made" as opposed to when it's just "recently made"?
Or "not old"?
The first step seems like it would be establishing a precise definition for "freshly".
 
5:51 AM
The aroma is stronger while it's hot.
 
Because the molecules are more excited?
 
Perhaps there could be a temperature threshold.
@CodyGray Personally, I can't blame them. Who wouldn't get excited about fresh pie?
 
@RyanM But what about re-heated pie? Does that smell as sweet as freshly-made pie?
@RyanM Someone who likes cake. Can you believe those people?!
 
It's a temperature-without-reheating standard, of course.
Wait, but I like cake and pie.
 
Hmm.
 
5:53 AM
@CodyGray Didn't we load all of them on a space ship and send them to the moon already?
 
One must rank above the other.
@VLAZ We were going to, and then we realized that we aren't even able to build space ships that go to the moon anymore.
 
Awww. So we're stuck here with the cake people. Ugh.
 
@CodyGray really depends on the cake and/or pie.
 
They might have complained about a distinct lack of cake on the moon anyway.
 
I think bad pie is better than bad cake, though.
 
5:55 AM
@RyanM Ah, you mean like a moonpie, which is actually a cake?
 
@CodyGray Do they go hard as they age?
 
What doesn't?
 
Biscuits.
 
Disagree!
 
5:57 AM
You're going to need to be more specific: BrE or AmE biscuits?
 
@RyanM BrE, or I wouldn't be making that joke.
 
I don't even think it's true that cookies go soft when they get stale. In my experience, they also get hard.
You can zap them briefly in the microwave to soften them again for eating purposes, though.
 
Then, they are legally cakes.
 
I mean
Everyone knows that freshly-baked cookies are soft and gooey. Everyone likes this.
And everyone also knows that the same cookies, over time, become hard and tough.
So are all cookies actually cake?
(Why do they go hard? Because they lose moisture!)
 
@CodyGray For the purpose of tax reasons, at least.
 
5:59 AM
 
This is why zapping them in the microwave, especially wrapped in a moist towel, is so effective.
I don't eat cookies for tax reasons
 
Also for sales tax purposes, gum is food (in at least CA, PA, and I think NY was the other one I checked?)
 
It's not even edible!
 
@CodyGray I appreciate that this sentence is ambiguous as to whether you eat cookies, but not for tax reasons, or if you avoid eating cookies, and this is done for tax reasons.
 
Yes
 
6:02 AM
You can't do both! Unless you eat some cookies for tax reasons, and avoid, also for tax reasons, eating other cookies.
...it is a nontrivial challenge writing these sentences unambiguously.
 
I don't always eat cookies (for tax reasons), but when I do, I don't eat them for tax reasons?
 
Another food-related fact, IIRC, the reason the slot machines / one-armed bandit machines show pictures of cherries and lemons and such which actually gives you money is that back in the day legally they weren't allowed to dispense money, or it would be gambling. So the machines would actually give you coupons for cherry- or lemon-flavoured things...but you were allowed to exchange those coupons for money.
Technically not gambling.
 
Why not just show pictures of money, and then give you coupons that could be exchanged for money?
 
Because gambling laws are stupid.
 
Actually, @RyanM, I think gum is classified as food by the FDA, so it's not state-specific.
They do this so that they can regulate it, of course.
 
6:06 AM
Well, the sales-tax laws are state-specific.
one of them, I forget which, actually defined food by a rather comprehensive list of everything that is food.
It was honestly impressive.
 
FDA Food Code 2017 defines "food" as "a raw, cooked, or processed edible substance, ice, BEVERAGE, or ingredient used or intended for use or for sale in whole or in part for human consumption, or chewing gum" (emphasis added)
Now, the implications of that are quite amusing.
It implies that chewing gum is not "a[n] edible substance", nor "for human consumption".
So it's basically like those brightly-colored laundry-soap packs.
 
Well, laws trying to prohibit an activity, in general. Before the Prohibition period, one state (was it NY?) did a prohibition of their own. They disallowed serving alcohol without food. To provide for restaurants existing but not straight up bars where you only go to drink. What bars did was start serving peanuts. Which is food, thus circumventing the ban. Later the ban was revised and it had stricter definition of "food" to exclude just a handful of peanuts. That was circumvented again with
"the sandwich". Most bars would have their own spin but it's something legally fitting the definition of food. But just a prop. It might be made of stale bread and rotten meat or straight up inedible like a brick between two buns. Customers would be handed one to fulfil the requirement of "serving food" but nobody was expected to eat it. Some places would even just have one or just a few of these and just rotate them around. Next customer just get the last served "sandwich" moved to their table
 
Yes
The New York State liquor tax law of 1896, also known as the Raines law, was authored by the New York State Senator John Raines and adopted in the New York State Legislature on March 23, 1896. It took effect on April 1, 1896, was amended in 1917 and repealed in 1923. Among other provisions, the Raines law increased the cost of liquor licenses, raised the drinking age from sixteen to eighteen, and prohibited the sale of alcoholic beverages on Sundays except in hotels, as well as in lodging houses with at least 10 rooms that served drinks with complimentary meals.Most men worked a six-day week, and...
 
 
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9:48 AM
NAA of the day: "helo me. git hub has taken over my phone, tablet and internet. 123-555-7890 firstmiddlelast@gmail.com 192.168.1.1 verizon network"
 
10:03 AM
192.168.1.1 is my IP, oh noez!
 
Note that unlike the phone number and email, which I made up, that was the actual IP they included.
 
 
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12:00 PM
@RyanM oh, no! GitHub is taking over phones! Time to delete all repositories! /s
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine It was 2022 and GitHub was fed up with being pushed and pulled. It was time to strike back.
 
12:37 PM
@VLAZ not to mention the cloning! Something had to be done.
 
GitHub is committed to vengeance.
 
refs/heads/vengeance
 
Yes, HEADs will roll
Revenge is best served over SSH.
A --force to be reckoned with.
Pick your tagline! :D
 
down with masters!
 
 
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3:41 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I thought we did that already
 
@VLAZ some still resist - they all need to m'd!
 
 
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7:27 PM
> Try to simply your code add Document.getElementById to the body or bodyonload then run a function and add an image using the tag as thats how you add images on javascript standard
technically an answer,
 
 
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8:42 PM
From today's issue of "justifications for adding noise to posts":
> I end nearly all of my answers with that line.
 
> Please refrain from doing so going forward, thanks for the help
 
That's not all :) it didn't fit jnto one message (yes, I know I should've used a newline...)
> I understand where you're coming from, but the post you linked also refers to fluff in questions, not answers. That line, in my opinion, is not fluff and is there as a way to let the user know that I may have made a mistake, and/or am free to discuss my response. I have found that adding this line at the end has a much higher chance of getting a user response when there is an issue and being able to discuss it,
> than when the line is not added and my answer is often disregarded until one that actually works is posted
 
9:04 PM
damn. i missed an opportunity to say irregardless
 
9:33 PM
I love the last sentence - "well, I post answers that maybe work, and for some reasons, OPs tend to ignore my not working answers to unclear posts"
 
 

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