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12:00 AM
And there isn't a way that they can elaborate on the link, since the Question is asking for a step by step tutorial.
 
In this particular case (as it's now deleted, it was an answer whose entire text was "She's a tough cookie. Hm................"), I'd flag as NAA because the user has posted non-nonsense content, and I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt. There's a post from either Cody or Shog9 advocating for benefit of the doubt for non-rude stuff like that on people with other positive contributions.
 
@RyanM you are right, I based my judgement exactly on that phrase. But I looked a bit more into it and there is a tough cookie concept vuejscomponent.com/package?name=tough-cookie maybe the whole thing was an unfortunate answer, which should have been a comment eventually?
 
Yeah...no idea. Maaaaybe? If it were a user with no other contributions I'd probably have voted R/A because it's at least borderline nonsense.
 
@RyanM I don't think the penalty was applied. Perhaps a moderator interfered with it.
 
Can't tell what happened because I'm not 10k, but either they deleted it or a moderator did via non-flag means because...yeah, that ^
 
12:16 AM
Is this no repro? (See self-answer)
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I think so...
 
Hmm.. now the link-only Answer is getting deleted in the Low Quality Posts queue :(
 
@Scratte Isn't that what's supposed to happen to a link-only answer?
 
@Makyen Not according to the review guideline. If a Question asks for a link, then an Answer answering with a link should stay, while the Question should be closed.
 
@Scratte But, you didn't say that the question was asking for links in your initial statement. :;
 
12:26 AM
@Makyen I did. here. The post came from smokey.
 
@Scratte But, you didn't link to it so there was no context. :;
 
@Makyen I'm sorry. Initially I assumed that the one that posted a comment on the Answer would retract their flag and remove their comment. But that didn't happen.
 
@Scratte Well... you know what happens with assumptions. :)
 
Heh.. yes :) I need to revise my head :)
I almost want to post it in the bad reviews room.. but I think I'll just go brush my teeth.
 
 
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3:14 AM
@Scratte Naa's are treated as link only
Sorry, it's the other way around.
 
HI I am Belgin From India
 
@BelginAndroid Hello!
 
@10Rep Hi You are from ?
 
@BelginAndroid Also India.
 
@10Rep Wow Awesome !
 
3:17 AM
If you want to have general chit-chat, then check out the Ministry of Silly Hats.
Unless you have a question that you wish to close?
@BelginAndroid I know :D
 
4:23 AM
 
4:33 AM
@10Rep hmmm, I see nothing to suggest that, why?
but probably closable as unclear
 
 
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5:42 AM
@tripleee bc triage warned me about it and I wanted to be 100% sure.
 
6:39 AM
@tripleee RO please trash, OP updated
 
7:23 AM
Whoa, I just realized I've never flagged anything on Meta.SO. ...well, until now, when I flagged a "Why is this downvoted?" comment.
 
@RyanM I haven't either...
 
...okay, I had that coming for being a smart-*** (it converted the spanish "o" to "Opinion Based")
 
8:05 AM
@tink Doesn't the presence of Puppeteer (Node library to control headless Chrom(e|ium)) make that a programming question? Headless web browsers aren't really general computing. It may lack an MCVE, though.
 
@10Rep Did you read the post I linked to?
 
8:49 AM
@VadimKotov ...lol, that's SE staff.
which, to be fair, I only noticed after attempting to close it...and they had plenty of time to delete it.
 
9:05 AM
This platform (SOCVR) welcomes requests for the questions with recent activity. Old questions with no recent activity are not allowed here. Alternative is to cast close vote on question and push it to Close Votes Queue. With this way, generally, the vote get expired and there remains nothing can be done. Is there a way/platform/chatroom to draw attention of community towards resource requests without recent activity?
 
@AmitJoshi the close vote queue I guess
 
@AmitJoshi Create your own room and let people know about it
 
but without spamming many chatrooms :P
 
@AmitJoshi Is this about ? The tag gets in such a sorry state.
 
9:25 AM
@E_net4changesdisplayname The and . Since got 10K+ myself, tried to clean up as much possible. But, there is much old useless/off-topic stuff still pending.
 
Well, one would rather not go on a witch hunt. We can catch problems as they appear in the feed.
 
@AmitJoshi Have a look at the MSO tag "clean-up". Maybe the example questions are useful.
 
@E_net4changesdisplayname That makes sense....
 
At least the most blatant "List of PACS archives" questions are already closed AFAIK.
 
Does this qualify as request for offsite resource? since accepted answer is link only. (NATO)
 
9:34 AM
@E_net4changesdisplayname Yes; and most can be still found in graveyard for both and .
@JeanneDark I will look into tag; thanks.
 
9:48 AM
The example questions:
https://stackoverflow.com/q/27011785/5779732
https://stackoverflow.com/q/19049297/5779732
https://stackoverflow.com/q/21089585/5779732 (If not exact resource request, it becomes too broad. All answers suggest toolkit anyway)
https://stackoverflow.com/q/19123723/5779732
https://stackoverflow.com/q/17318911/5779732
https://stackoverflow.com/q/24029234/5779732
 
@AmitJoshi I rather thought of a MSO post e. g. like this one since the tag description says "This tag indicates that the question is a call to arms, a cry for help, a request for assistance."
 
10:07 AM
Why was this written with Greek letters? Should we edit it? stackoverflow.com/q/64134633/1839439
 
@Dharman It looks like it's all caps as well. It's even in the "ЅΕⅬΕϹΤ" in the actual query. I'm not sure it works on a database
 
Obviously it doesn't work
 
@Dharman we already did, but the answers are hampered by the same issue ... serves the OP right I think
 
@tripleee Oh. I've just edited the answers...
Characters like that would play havoc with anyone trying to use a screen reader
 
10:43 AM
Not sure what's going on with those last two Smokey reports. But they look identical.
 
@Dharman Could that first bullet point be a solution the the problem?
 
Maybe, it looks like this is expanding on the accepted answer
yeah, ok. Now after the edit it looks better
 
12:06 PM
Morning
 
Heh.. vand means water in danish :) I hear it's better than øl
 
@Scratte Nah. Have you heard about what fish do in water? Nothing like that goes on with beer.
 
They listen to music ;)
 
@NathanOliver Actually, I think that was the (n-1)th duplicate. ;)
 
Possibly Not An Answer: stackoverflow.com/a/62045616/5779732. Self answered and accepted answer by OP. But read the last line of answer. They are still asking question. I think this should be an edit to the question instead.
 
stupid off by one errors ;)
@AmitJoshi Typically follow up answers like that are allowed. I'm not going to do any action to it.
 
@NathanOliver Also, this comment on that answer answers the follow up question.
 
2:03 PM
{The biscuits were fixed!}
 
Might be temporary. Up for me, but I've seen that error before
 
@SmokeDetector fp
 
Any SQL folks around willing to edit this into shape? I started (added code fences) but then got lost about how to indent the stuff.
Thanks for that, @Vega.
 
2:27 PM
@AdrianMole You are welcome :)
 
Re my above cv-pls request: I guess it's now rather "debugging details". Problem is changing (invalidating answer) and now they wrote a comment ending with "I will provide more information once I will figure out what is going on"
 
Asking what tools a company or product uses is off topic because of Asking for External Resources, right?
 
3:01 PM
Another update to the above cv-pls request: They updated question again and self-answered - does that qualify as typo or not reproducible?
 
3:34 PM
^ R/A
Though maybe we should keep it, just to make Cody and Scratte happy - as they're both so fond of emojis?
 
@AdrianMole What?!?.. I missed an emoji-post? Where's my screen shot? :)
 
There is nothing more frustrating than spending time fixing spelling/grammar and removing blatant gibberish, having the edit approved by the community and then having OP roll back the edits.
5
 
3:51 PM
 
Can someone cast the final vote on the synonym request llvm-clang->clang? stackoverflow.com/tags/clang/synonyms
 
@S.S.Anne There was a criticism leveled at it, tho. I don't know enough either way
 
@AdrianMole Heh.. I did not expect you to actually do it :) Thanks :)
 
@code11 Nah, that's easy solved. Roll back again. What's is frustrating is trying to delete something so bad that reeks and it getting locked.
 
@code11 What's more frustrating is when you make an edit, the OP rolls back and serial downvotes your answers and makes rude comments telling you to go drown yourself in the southern ocean. And if you are less than 2k, when they rollback, you lose 2 reputation, which can also sting.
@Braiam That can result in a rollback war, something I usually steer clear of.
 
4:10 PM
@10Rep NAA
 
@DavidBuck But it's repeating the same thing over and over again.
It's abusive, not rude IMO
 
@10Rep It is, but from discussions here a few days ago, unless it's complete gibberish, you run the risk of an RA being declined. There's no risk of NAA being declined on that.
 
@DavidBuck We can summon the power of SOCVR ...
 
@DavidBuck If six people flag it with a high priority flag, then it will get auto-deleted. No mod involved
 
@10Rep I'm talking about what's easily steered to its desired state. Anyone can reapply the edit without much effort. Trying to unlock a crappy post... good luck with that.
 
4:13 PM
Seems to have hit 3 red flags plus a Mole DV.
 
@10Rep Alternatively, five people flag it and then a moderator declines all of them...
2
 
@10Rep If 6 people gang up, they can delete any post and punish the owner. Even if it's not a rude post :( I'm sure if a moderator finds out, there'll be a bit to answer to.
 
... seems that there was Diamond-Powered intervention there, as the user account has been nuked.
 
@Scratte But it's not against the rules, is it?
Anyways it didn't hit six flags.
 
Anyone want to R/A on the one I posted as cv-pls above - answer is just the OP/s error message reposted. Not 'appropriate for respectful discourse' but I wouldn't risk an RA on that either.
 
4:16 PM
@10Rep Absolutely it is. Ganging up on another user flagging their posts as rude if it's not.
 
@10Rep Maximum of 3 red flags, as it has a score of -4, and I gave it a downvote.
 
@Scratte It's not rude, it's abusive. Repeating the same thing three times, then including some copy-paste text at the end is abusive IMO.
 
@DavidBuck I'd go max NAA on that.
 
@RyanM - sorry, haven't been able to find the question - can't comment.
Morning all
 
@10Rep Did you read the message you replied to?
 
4:19 PM
For tags like , where is the border to off-topic? Do we support requests for "how to install docker"? See this question.
 
@Scratte Yes, I have. And it's not "ganging up on the user". We're just removing their post, which is NAA/Abusive. Whoever said we should gang on the user?
 
@Turing85 Not sure. Installing the JDK is..
 
@Turing85 Going from the tags and the content, I'd say that's 100% off-topic.
 
@Scratte @DavidBuck thanks
 
@10Rep That was my impression from here. The red flag auto delete comes with a penalty. Use it only very wisely.
@Turing85 Hmm. I think I may have said that wrong. I meant to say that installing the JDK is on-topic :)
 
4:24 PM
@Scratte well... the border to what is and is not off-topic is quite unclear. Take, for example, this question which I think is off-topic.
 
@Scratte I guess auto-delete may sound like that. If anyone is wondering, this is the official post that talks about the six flags rule: What are the spam and rude or abusive flags, and how do they work?.
To quote:

> Upon receiving six red flags, the post will be locked and deleted, and the author will lose 100 reputation. (Locking means that users with the moderator tools privilege (“10k users”) cannot edit or undelete it.)
 
@Turing85 But it's a tool commonly used by developers. I'm not sure if installing docker is for anyone other than developers.
@10Rep I do not think anyone is confused about the 6 flag rule. I'm not confused at all. I'm just saying if there's any doubt at all, don't use it. Arguing to use it to avoid moderators being involved in deleting a post is in my opinion the wrong argument.
 
@Scratte depends on how you define developer, I guess. I don't consider myself a developer (sysAdmin, DevOps) and use docker ...
 
@tink True, but you can still post a Question about a script, even if you're using is an admin :)
 
@Scratte imho, each developer should have docker installed. But going by this argumentation, what else should we support? IntelliJ and Eclipse for sure. Ant, Gradle and Maven aswell. Emacs? Notepad++?
@Scratte What about pipelining? Jenkins, gitlab-ci, bitbucket-ci, travis-ci --- Code Anlysis? Sonarcloud & self-hosted sonar & findbugs and sonar-plugin. --- How about PlantUML which is quite common for UML-, Sequence-, ER-Diagrams. --- Rest clients: should we then support curl, Postman and insomnia? The ist gets pretty long pretty fast.
 
4:30 PM
@Scratte I didn't say it like, "6 red flags and we can escape moderators!". I said it like, "6 red flags, and it's deleted". I said it like, "No moderator time is taken up". Not to gang up on a user, ofc.
 
@Turing85 I believe there are some Notepad++ Questions :)
 
@Scratte of course there are. No doubt you will find questions to all of those topics. The question is: should we support them since they are "common tools"?
 
@Turing85 I don't know where the line is, is what I'm saying. Though.. docker can be quite a headache.
 
@Turing85 I mean, notepad++ is an ide, right. So it's not off-topic? I've never used it personally.
 
@Scratte Isn't that always the case?
 
4:32 PM
@Turing85 That's what the help center says. Which is kind of the reference manual, no?
 
@10Rep So it is ok to ask about Emacs aswell?
 
@Turing85 Yes, the same reason why VS code is on-topic, VI is on-topic, so is EMACS.
 
@Scratte well, yes. I guess I could. But if I'm trying to run something someone else has written I'd try to get support from the author, not fix it myself by hassling others ;)
 
Ide's are on-topic at StackOverflow
 
@10Rep I don't think notepad++ is an IDE. It's just an editor, like notepad.. just with a little more :)
 
4:34 PM
@Scratte Agreed. See this post on SE
 
@tink Most of us do it like that. And when we do, we sometimes search the internet and find an Answer on Stack Overflow :D
 
@Scratte It's a source code editor... Yes, your correct
Would everyone agree this is Abusive in RA? stackoverflow.com/questions/35497893/…
 
gibberish is spam
 
@10Rep I write my todo-lists on notepad++ and my christmas wishlist :D
 
@E_net4changesdisplayname no, gibberish is R/A
 
4:36 PM
heh @Scratte
 
@10Rep Yes. I don't have Smokey privileges in this room, if one of you fine folks wouldn't mind !!/reporting that answer.
 
^ what JeanneDark said :)
 
@10Rep That's R/A
 
@Scratte I use the default notepad cause I don't want to struggle with something complicated
 
Meh, the outcomes are roughly the same.
 
4:36 PM
@E_net4changesdisplayname What if a moderator declines your spam flag? Don't risk it :)
 
@10Rep Notepad++ is not bad. I use it in portable mode.
 
^^ There we are.
 
@Scratte I meant complicated, not bad
 
@10Rep It's not complicated either. It works out-of-the-box :)
 
Or sometimes I use sublime if I'm desperate
@Scratte Do you have a monitor? Because I have a small screen and all the controls look tiny.
 
4:39 PM
@E_net4changesdisplayname I remember a user getting scolded by a moderator on meta for using the wrong red flag. The flag had been declined.
@10Rep I have a small laptop. Everything is tiny on it.
 
@Scratte That's taking up 1/2 the screen
 
@10Rep I resize my windows. Notepad++ remembers the last size. Try pressing ctrl and use the mouse wheel to zoom in or out.
 
@Scratte I changed my screen resolution to the highest it would go. It actually works fine now.
 
4:47 PM
@10Rep Have you tried to open op regular notepad and see the difference? :)
 
@Scratte OP notepad looks, empty compared to this.
 
@10Rep Yes :) I also have about 50 documents open and I keep the document list (Doc switcher) on the right side to find them easy.
The only "problem" I have with it is that right clicking one can pick "Close" which is right above the "Close All BUT This" :(
@Turing85 Heh.. there's a rule here saying that one is not suppose to up/down vote a post when seeing it in here.
 
@Turing85 I don't see how those are related. cv-pls has nothing to do with upvotes or downvotes; neither is suggested or inherent in cv-pls requests. The opposite of a cv-pls is a reopen-pls.
I understand that you're just being sarcastic, but, given the history around organized up and downvoting, I, personally, would prefer that we don't make jokes about those, as the statements could be taken out of context. Organized up and downvoting is still, and probably will remain, a trigger issue for a significant number of people. I know you're making a joke, in part because such requests are so clearly not permitted here, but, all the same, it's probably better just to stay away from it.
 
@Makyen care to delete my message then?
 
5:00 PM
@Makyen thx =)
 
np. Thank you.
 
@Scratte The Macbook Pro is a tool commonly used by developers. Surely it needs to be a tool commonly used by developers and (somewhat) obviously being used to solve a development problem in order to be on-topic.
 
I installed Docker to play games and use Graylog, am I a developer? :D
 
@Scratte Any source on this rule?
 
5:16 PM
@Turing85 Not sure there's so strict a rule. There's this rule: "Do not ask for up- or down-votes on any posts. Vote conscientiously on posts you wouldn't normally encounter beyond being linked to from this room."
 
@JeanneDark I know. Thing is... if it's a hard rule, then there might be a popular off-site article of a high-rep user that describes how s*he is up-/downvoting questions that were posted here.
 
@Turing85 The last part was added recently. Someone felt that post coming through here were more consistently up/down voted than normal, so the extra sentence was added.
@DavidBuck Heh.. yes, but.. they're also widely used by non-developers, no?
 
@Scratte I do not fully get your point. I do not see anything about that on the FAQ aside from what @JeanneDark has posted.
 
@Turing85 This part was added: Vote conscientiously on posts you wouldn't normally encounter beyond being linked to from this room. So, no, it's not a hard rule as that cannot be enforced. I expect it to be a soft rule, as in: Please don't unless you'd come by post normally outside the room too.
 
@Scratte ah okay. I think the article does not violate that rule
 
5:25 PM
@Scratte Other people use Docker. Dev Ops, DBA, etc.
 
This old question provides some context.
 
@DavidBuck It's a gray area. I'm soft with those, I guess. If I need docker to run for my new thing, I'd search like mad and hope to find an Answer on Stack Overflow.
 
@Scratte pro-tip: docs.docker.com is pretty exhaustive =)
 
@Turing85 Yes, but that takes a few weeks to go through.
 
@Scratte docker is a tool that you can learn "pretty good" as you go.
 
5:30 PM
I not sure what your mean by that. Isn't that true for anything? Git, Java, SQL?
 
@Scratte not everything, no. SSL is something that (at least for me) cannot be learned "as you go".
 
6:25 PM
@Machavity I don't see a difference in the way that the tags are used.
there might be a slight skew in the favor of the compiler's internals for [llvm-clang], but not enough to not call it a synonym
and that may very well be just because llvm-clang is less used than clang
But there are questions tagged [llvm-clang], [clang], and [llvm]
 
Has anyone seen any good questions asked recently?
 
M--
6:41 PM
Does this qualify for meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/401573/…? (I have read this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/348642/…)... And should there be a separate post about colorblindness?
 
6:57 PM
@Dharman Yes :) I noticed a few in Triage actually. Of course, you may not agree with me.
 
7:18 PM
Does this qualify as a NaN? stackoverflow.com/a/64142844/1394729
The OT question it's answering notwithstanding ...
 
@tink If the question is asking for bad answers, bad answers aren't NAA.
 
No idea what's going on here stackoverflow.com/a/64143737/7508700
 
Heh.. new advertisement out?
 
@Braiam heh
Thanks
 
@S.S.Anne I just have to kick the tires first, especially when there's a Meta (or two in this case)
It's approved. Will hold off on a merge for now
 
Was there always such a large padding before headings? stackoverflow.com/a/64144660/1839439
 
Fun fact: there's 711 questions tagged [llvm-clang] that are not tagged [clang]
@Dharman Wow. 1.5em margin. I'm gonna go with "No" there
 
@Dharman No. It was very close before.
 
7:48 PM
ugh, stackoverflow blog spam in top notification bar
now where do I flag that...
 
@Dharman No. It definitely wasn't there on 2020-09-10, which is the most recent earlier copy of SE's CSS which I specifically downloaded and saved.
 
@Scratte I'm surprised rene hasn't hammered that yet
 
@AndrasDeak With what?
 
I'd be surprised if this were the first instance :)
 
7:51 PM
If you leave it there and everybody likes it, it may become a "Hot Meta Posts" :)
 
and then the company can put it in the top notification bar
 
Why do people add noise instead of proper explanation? stackoverflow.com/a/62687828/1839439
 
lets hope it takes a while for rene to gain focus ;)
 
I am already in the top rankings of editors
All I do is edit and edit and edit
 
@Dharman Thank you. You do all my editing too
What's the plan to gain enough reputation for a 40/40 score on the next moderator election?
I mean you already have voters, so no slacking ;)
 
7:55 PM
I answered one question today and I got 2 downvotes.
 
Oh.. Sorry about that :(
 
The problem is that it's really difficult to find a good question
 
Maybe we can switch. You get my upvotes and I get your downvotes?
 
@Dharman Welcome to why I pretty much stopped answering things
 
@Machavity You mean to say you got your unicorn points from editing and asking? :)
 
8:00 PM
@AndrasDeak Also on MSE
 
@Machavity Yeah, but you already had enough rep to become a mod, I don't
 
@Scratte Heh. No, I have some 1200 answers, but finding good questions to answer in [php] became a chore
 
I see. It's never too late to pick up lisp though :) (:
 
@Scratte You have mismatched brackets there
 
I mean, my top answer was on a question I was about to ask myself. Someday it will probably get me my first (and likely only) gold answer badge on SO
 
8:05 PM
I just wanted the "Unsung Hero", but I think that's never going to happen.
 
@Machavity thanks
 
9:01 PM
He's talking about (re-)building a library, but does this make stackoverflow.com/questions/64145107/ln-invalid-option-r on-topic? As fas as I'm concerned it's just version incompatibility of standard tools
 
9:30 PM
How does one up/down vote 41 times in a day? I thought the limit was 40.
 
vote on to be deleted posts
 
@Scratte I vote usually more than 40 times every day
 
Hmm.. so if the post is deleted during the day, one gets to vote more?
 
Yes
I voted 175 times in the past 4 days which averages 43 votes per day
and I still have a lot of votes left today
 
Does it matter how it's deleted? Does Roomba count?
 
9:33 PM
No, it does not matter
You can downvote 40 answers at UTC 01:00, go to sleep, wake up and downvote another 40 or more posts
BTW why are deleted votes not shown on my profile page?
 
Heh.. that's 3 in the morning for me :D
@Dharman I have no idea. It's annoying me to the extend that I now log my votes.
 
What is interesting is that one user has managed to cast more than 400 votes in the past 4 days stackoverflow.com/users?tab=voters
 
down/del combo?
 
In theory there is no limit to the number of downvotes cast in one day
I could spend the whole day in LQP and downvote 1000 times
 
oh?
Maybe I should start reviewing again :P
 
9:43 PM
Hmm.. 68,544 votes cast total :O
 
I think I am downvoting more and more. The average since start of the year is 35, the average in the past 90 days is 42 and the average this week 43
 
I'm surprised to find myself on that first page..
 
9:58 PM
@Dharman are you sure? I vaguely remember hitting a cap before, and posts like this exist
> You can vote 30 times per UTC day. You get an additional 10 votes on questions only. (Why?)
 
@AndrasDeak I hit the vote cap hundreds of times. I am not talking about the vote cap. I am saying there is no real limit
 
@Dharman and I'm talking about vote cap
So what's a "real limit" if not the cap?
 
Sorry, typo. Have you read the conversation from the start?
 
@Dharman I thought I did, but I guess I misunderstood something
 
Scratte was asking how can one exceed the vote cap.
 
10:00 PM
ah
 
I explained that there are plenty of ways and I do that almost daily
 
weird questions always lead to them :P
OK, now I get why you said LQP, thanks
 
Well.. there is a limit since it's rate limited, no? :)
 
I think the rate limit on votes must be really low
I don't think I ever was rate limited in voting
 
But thank you for explaining this to me :) I'll need to always keep one vote left for the day.
 
10:04 PM
This is something new... stackoverflow.com/a/64146303/1839439
 
@Dharman Only if you used all your votes for the UTC day :D
 
Which part? The "Stack Overflow is always kind and amateur friendly"? :)
 
Well, yeah but assuming BR is manning the queue then I think I could cast more than 30 votes in a minute
@Scratte Yeah, I downvoted this
 
@Dharman That doesn't work well for Questions though..
@Dharman No flag?
 
I used one of my last flags
 
10:31 PM
This is an example of a terrible duplicate closure stackoverflow.com/q/10000005/1839439
 
Why is it terrible?
 
It should be the other way around
 
Oh. Those other two should have this one as a target?
 
Yes
 
11:03 PM
@akrun Why is it an invalid request?
 
@Braiam well, same reason as here
 
@akrun I'm asking about the tag, it says "del-pls: invalid-request"
 
@Braiam not sure. I used the del-pls tag before. If it is not currently used, then will not post
 
@akrun are you using a script to create the message? It is probably that.
 
@Braiam No, i just copy pasted one of the old messages and changed the link
 
11:07 PM
I figured it out, it's one of my scripts.
 
@Braiam ok thanks for the feedback
 
@akrun Why have you not voted to delete yourself?
This request is invalid because the question has not been closed for more than 2 days
 
@Dharman That is true, but it is difficult to track those.
 
11:35 PM
@Braiam The URRS changes the del-pls request tags on requests where the post on which action is requested can not currently be delete-voted. The change is to del-pls: invalid-request. A tooltip is added to the tag in the message which explains why it is invalid (i.e. what condition(s) are not met to make it such that it can be delete-voted). In the case of this request, it's a question which has a score > -3 (20k delete) and which has not been closed for > 2 days (10k delete).
@akrun This currently is not within one downvote of being able to be delete-voted. Feel free to re-request once the question can be delete-voted. Please see the portion of FAQ #12 on del-pls for more detail.
 
@Makyen If downvotes are needed, how is this deleted
 
@akrun unless closed more than 2 days ago, see chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50585411#50585411
since users can't time travel the only actionable alternative is downvoting which would allow 20k users to delvote
 

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