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08:49
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні lol
@flawr oh wow, that is totally me :D
albeit machine learning sounds super awesome to funders too
A car, a oven, a wind turbine, a computer, your phone, your table. Dunno, everything can be modeled, I am struggliing to find an object that can not be. — Ander Biguri 23 mins ago
What about abstract objects @AnderBiguri?
Like a manifold?
a vector field?!
> An abstract object is a non-physical, non-mental object that exists outside of space and time and is wholly unextended.
sadness? because Facebook models that shite!
:D
I guess we can't model a singularity?
(good to see you by the way!)
I was about to suggest something like "longing", but your facebook argument leaves a lot of my suggestions invalid :/
09:04
hahaha
Or numbers, in the abstract conceptual sense.
AI, screwing with us since 2010
@StewieGriffin I loved how GPT-3 learned how to add numbers up to 3 digits by just learning the semantic relationship between them, without the concept of numbers and arithmetic
one could argue that in some sense, it did learn the meaning of numbers though
How are you BTW, still banning yourself from SO?
 
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10:27
meta.stackoverflow.com/q/417475/5211833 I'm not quite sure whether I welcome that SO for once actually asks for community input, or whether it looks more to be a case of offloading work to volunteers
 
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14:15
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні you're the expert on this, aren't you? stackoverflow.com/questions/71926095/…
15:02
@flawr that's probably a stretch but I'll take a closer look later, thanks
15:24
@AnderBiguri So it memorized the multiplication tables? I had to do that in the 1980’s in school. That’s not interesting at all!
hahaha
no! it did not!
it had no concept of arithmetic
just learned probabilistic relationships between words
and that lead to being able to do arithmetics
@CrisLuengo I always was so bad at that. I never understood why we were supposed to memorize it if we could just compute it. Obviously computing it every time took me a little bit longer, so I always failed when our teacher would make us compete:)
@flawr same here. I memorized a few easy ones, computed the rest from there. Memorizing is pointless (and I’m really bad at it).
@AnderBiguri yes, that is exactly what I’m saying: it memorized the tables, didn’t understand what they mean or where they come from. It knows that “3x3=” is always followed by “9”, just like a kid in school that memorized that 3x3 is 9.
15:43
I guess yes
Even when I memorized them I knew what they meant though
I always just assumed it was a shortcut to something I understood
but yeah, had problems with teachers too, beacause I didn't care about memorizing something I could compute
"but you won't have your computer during the test!!"
"you wont have a calculator with you at all times"
YES YES I WILL
It's funny how that argument was apparently used world wide.
the same as "but people in Africa doesnt have food". Which 1)kinda rude to Africans, to start with 2) are you going to freaking fly this brocoli to ethipia, or what
hahahaha
Did you guys also have the classic growing up "You'll need to use cursive hand writing in highschool/university"
then BOOM word documents make it 100% obsolete
15:57
we kinda never were tought anything else actually, just cursive
so typing letters separately was something that a coupe of weird picked by themselves
(yeah me included)
damn :D really aging yourself here
nah, not that old, simply the way its taught in Spain
I mean, maybe im a bit old, but just in my early thirties
hehehe yeah makes sense
I remember they really pushed cursive on us in elementary school (while teaching us how to type) and saying how every teacher will expect cursive .. then we got to highschool and it was like "if you don't type this then don't submit it" lol
hahaha I have programming examsn in uni that were written by hand
hahaha same here
I always hated those
16:08
@AnderBiguri I had people complain when I used greek letters in my variable names
in writting exams, or in real code
written exams of course:)
in real code I only do that to torture students
thats such a mathematician thing to do, though :D
hehehe
I just name my variables things like: xxxy xxyx xxxyxxy
you joke
when I joined my PhD, I was given code like that
16:20
lol yeah same, when I worked a summer research at my uni
a, aa, aaa, ab, aabb, abb, ac, c, cc, ccc
etc
@AnderBiguri dog pee to mark their territory:)
I had things like: xxxxxxxyz, xxxxxxxxxyyz, xxxyyzzzzz
just code in whitespace
and there was a MAJOR bug because someone did a xxxxxyz instead of a xxxxyz
only took 4 months to find
16:21
@ballBreaker that person clearly didn't memorize the times tables
I am not in favor of capital punishment, but.....
@AnderBiguri tell that a code-golfer:)
it's really useful for polyglot programs esolangs.org/wiki/Whitespace
@AnderBiguri hahaha
 
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17:48
@ballBreaker That “cursive” thing is only a thing in the US and Canada. In Europe it’s just “handwriting”. That was how we were thought to write, there was no alternative. (At least in Spain and Netherlands, I always assumed it was the same everywhere else too.)
I had an idiot history teacher for many years, who wrote his own “book” on history (not published of course) and would read out loud from it for an hour every class. We had to write down as much as possible from that, and then reproduce as much as possible on the exams. Of course I didn’t do well in his classes. The one thing I learned from him was to write fast, and my handwriting changed a bunch, many letters became separated from their neighbors.
If my handwriting today looks like a doctor’s, it’s not because I have a doctorate, but because of that idiot.
@CrisLuengo We actually first learned "block letters" or whatevery they are called and then cursive.
@CrisLuengo sounds like a good preparation for university
("good")
18:25
@CrisLuengo Oh god, haha this sounds quite painful >_<. My handwriting got super sloppy over the years as well because of university
@flawr same here!
@CrisLuengo I did that to myself during uni. I hate learning from books so I wrote down everything (it's also more common that lecturers don't even recommend books and they just require you to learn what they said and build from that). My handwriting got so compressed it's as good as encrypted.
yeah exact same here andras
18:48
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Sounds convenient! Especially when grading exams. :D
It's funny because I tend to remark on mid-terms I grade if it's illegible. And I do so using illegible handwriting. But I'm not the one being evaluated so tough luck for them :P

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