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10:05 AM
If you only have plots but need the data: automeris.io/WebPlotDigitizer
 
 
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12:46 PM
Does anyone have experience with "conformal interpolation"?
Basically I have a set of points: for each point: (x, y) I have a transformed point f(x,y), but I don't know the transformation f
now I'd like to "approximate" f with a conformal map (=locally angle preserving)
I just realized I should have called it regression instead of interpolation
 
 
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3:35 PM
@flawr sounds like something really difficult. Perhaps image processing with warping/morphing knows about good methods.
 
3:49 PM
@flawr You should try thin plate splines. Because of the local rigidity, I'd expect the mapping to be conformal, though I haven't seen anybody refer to this property. But it certainly looks like that to me, seeing how it transforms images.
 
@AndrasDeak thanks for the suggestions!
@CrisLuengo so I really just know thin plate splines in the context of 1d interpolation, so I just want to clarify: Since the "input" is 2d would this mean that you'd do a thin-plate-RBF interpolation (for each of the output coordinates)?
 
Thin plates can be defined in any number of dimensions.
Indeed you use a RBF.
 
Thanks for the links!
@CrisLuengo Ok I see, thanks!
(right, I mean the derivation using the "thin plates" only makes sense in 1d:)
 
I thought the term "thin plate" implied a 2D domain. Would a 1D version not be called "thin rod"? :)
 
4:04 PM
Huh you're right!
I did some internet-rabbit-holing:)
I only had a faint idea in mind about the motivation of (C2-) splines coming from the drafting tool with the same name, and I confused the two.
So the thin-plate-splines are indeed motivated by the idea of a piece of sheet metal
 
nice
 
so the cubic (C2) splines have the minimum bending energy (integral (second derivative)^2) property in an 1D domain, while the thinplate spline minimizes the minimum bending energy in 2d (integral 2(df/dxdy)^2 + (df/dx^2)^2 + (df/dy^2)^2)
but it is so interesting that the outcomes of the corresponding RBFs are so different!
 
I've yet to read about how RBFs work
 
4:20 PM
I wonder what we can find a similar explicit expression for the 3D case, or the ND case:)
@AndrasDeak I thought you are the RBF expert here?
 
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I'm positive it was you who sent me a introduction to RBFs a few years ago!
 
impossible
the one thing I and RBFs have in common is my use of them in my python 2d interpolation canonical, and it's used as a black box (since they are a black box to me)
unless we discovered together and you read what we found and I didn't :P
 
then I need to update the database in my brain of the "top 5 rbf experts in chatlab"
but at least you motivated me to read about it then
 
you can try looking at hits in chat.stackoverflow.com/search?room=81987&q=rbf
Jan 15 '18 at 22:59, by flawr
@AndrasDeak Is it correct that in general you cannot represent constant functions in an RBF basis?
Jan 15 '18 at 23:33, by Andras Deak
@flawr I have absolutely no idea
 
 
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5:39 PM
@AndrasDeak someone must have changed the chat history!
and I just asked a question regarding the generalization: math.stackexchange.com/questions/3778881/…
@CrisLuengo ^ in case you want to take responsibility for the rabbit hole you sent me into :D
 
It's not my fault!!!
The implementation that I linked works for arbitrary number of dimensions.
 

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