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7:30 PM
to anyone who wants to waste time with a really neat natural phenomenon, help yourselves to this:
Ball lightning is an unexplained and potentially dangerous atmospheric electrical phenomenon. The term refers to reports of luminous, spherical objects that vary from pea-sized to several meters in diameter. Though usually associated with thunderstorms, the phenomenon lasts considerably longer than the split-second flash of a lightning bolt. Many early reports claim that the ball eventually explodes, sometimes with fatal consequences, leaving behind the odor of sulfur.Until the 1960s, most scientists treated reports of ball lightning skeptically, despite numerous accounts from around the world...
 
^[citation needed]
 
aye it's got about 105 citations
 
so do anti-vaxxers
 
many of them scientific journals :P
 
let's just say I'm skeptical
 
7:32 PM
You said that within about 1 second of me posting that lmao
*see's article header*
THATS ALL THE INFO I NEED
 
when reports of a phenomenon reflect that of UFOs, bigfoot sightings and ghosts, you start recognizing a pattern
 
I'll be honest when I first heard about it I instantly was skeptical as well lol
Apparently Tesla was the only person to successfully create ball lightning, but who knows with tesla shit
 
People have been seeing [thing] for centuries, especially simpler/drunk folk. Surprisingly [thing] is hard to detect with rigorous scientific methods, and there are virtually no reliable footages of [thing] even though everyone has been carrying around a camera with them for decades. Scientific description of [thing] is yet to be given.
also properties of [thing] seem to vary from anecdote to anecdote
 
OK, that's a pretty limited notion of a "ball lightning" that I'd be willing to accept
when you say "ball lightning" it traditionally means "there was a glowing ball of energy that was slowly walking around the house, going through the walls and electrocuting my cows"
@LuisMendo hey, I completely missed that. Thanks :)
 
7:39 PM
@AndrasDeak If you actually looked at the wikipedia article I wasn't just like "hey here's this random thing I found that I did absolutely no verification on"
 
I did look at it, but you're still just a lobster
 
Although the historical counts are pretty funny to read I was more interested in the scientific hypothesis and documentation
 
> Many[quantify] early reports claim[when?] that the ball eventually explodes, sometimes with fatal consequences, leaving behind the odor of sulfur.[1][2]
> Scientists have proposed many hypotheses about ball lightning over the centuries. Scientific data on natural ball-lightning remains scarce, owing to its infrequency and unpredictability. The presumption of its existence depends on reported public sightings, which have produced somewhat inconsistent findings. Owing to inconsistencies and to the lack of reliable data, the true nature of ball lightning remains unknown.
 
This one in particular was hilarious
> on 21 October 1638. Four people died and approximately 60 were injured when, during a severe storm, an 8-foot (2.4 m) ball of fire was described as striking and entering the church, nearly destroying it.
If true, I can't imagine how shook those people's faith would be from that
 
Faith always works out. The survivors were chosen/tested and prevailed. The dead were called to their creater for a reason.
> Effect Various conflicting reports: hovers in the air, may float through walls or other solid objects without effect or may melt and burn them or explode.
 
7:43 PM
u so grumpy
 
Sorry, it's my allergy
 
bahaha
apology accepted
 
(I'm allergic to bullshit)
 
It's okay, I accept your apology
No more detail is required
 
good :P
 
7:50 PM
@AndrasDeak This graph applies to each of those [thing]: reddit.com/r/funny/comments/25ycg9/frequency_of_miracles
(I thought I had seen that on XKCD, but I guess it must have been somewhere else.)
 
hehe
the top comment shows the relevant XKCD
 
@AndrasDeak Do you get hives? Does your throat swell up? If not, it’s not a true allergy. ;)
 
@ballBreaker if you also want to look at the other end of the scientific wtf spectrum read about scanning tunneling microscopes
 
Oooo
Will look at after doing some work
Assuming quantum tunneling somehow applied to microscope technology before opening
 
yup
 
7:56 PM
Consider my interest piqued
 
it's a spectroscopy technique that lets you image stuff literally on the atomic scale
 
@ballBreaker other science stuff coming up: 20th December 14:00 in Delft, my graduation presentation :P
 
not "image" in the literal sense (because actual imaging is limited by the wavelength of the light you're using), but close enough
 
@Adriaan twitch stream it!
 
@ballBreaker I might look into that, then me grandma can watch without getting her 100 year old bum to the uni
 
7:58 PM
brb gotta spend some time figuring out how to use javascript inside PDF documents to have calculated fields <_<
 
"P"DF documents
 
not exactly sure what you're trying to do
"portable" ?
 
yup
 
Yeah, isn't exactly portable once JS is involved lol
 
whatever you put on top of still text and images in a pdf it stops being portable :) Which is fine if you're going to use compatible systems, I just like to grump about the ways MS and adobe handles the p in pdf
I had to use annotated pdfs to submit corrections to a paper a year or so ago, I'm still pissed
 
8:01 PM
Yeah I would be grumpy too
This document is beyond portable, I'm already using a library inside Java code to force text into fillable fields
 
lol
 
now I'm also adding calculated fields so users can have easy maths lol
rigid document format
Sometimes you just gotta fudge it to give people what they want though I guess
Oh God. I'm remembering how much I hate JS
 
8:17 PM
how could you forget?
 
8:28 PM
Ugh, repressed memory I think
Anyone use JS before?
Yelling at my for syntax on this:
var C = this.getField("kmDriven").value - this.getField("allowedKM").value;
if(C => 0){
    event.value = C;
}
else{
    event.value = 0;
}
at event.value = C;
<_<
 
C => 0?
 
larger equal than?
 
seems like the bastard child of a lambda and a logical operator
 
yah kill me
my brain is too fried
that was it
 
@ballBreaker it must have been fried by a ball of lightning
 
8:31 PM
It was! It came in through the window and phased through the floor below and hit me right in the brainhole
Here I am blaming Javascript for being dumb and alas, it was I that was the dumb one
 
9:04 PM
@AndrasDeak With accents and all :-P
 
@ballBreaker you break balls, no? Why did it hit you?
 
@LuisMendo <3
 
@CrisLuengo I rolled back. It's not vandalism in its extreme, but bad enough
 
@CrisLuengo huh? only now? :P
 
9:15 PM
I think that means I've been on SO too much today... better get some work done!
 
@CrisLuengo I got a whopping two hours of work, since some uni server blew at 08:00 this morning, and wasn't repaired until I was actually giving my presentation xD
 
@Adriaan That's a good lesson: prepare ahead of time, and keep a copy of your slides on a thumb drive. I've become a little paranoid with that...
My first conference (1999) I actually took printed transparencies with me.
 
@Adriaan nice.
 
Presenting using slides on a laptop was still iffy then.
 
@CrisLuengo I tried cleaning that pigsty of a room of me this afternoon, because I had a half-arsed presentation on there somewhere. Couldn't find is of course, but ended up getting it from the server and most of the group was flabbergasted at what I'm doing
@CrisLuengo well, you're old...
runs away quickly
I drank beer with Lucas again today, was fun! :P
 
9:29 PM
Looks like I'll be doing a presentation for the executives of my company in the foreseeable future......yay....<_<
Maybe I'll bring a thumb drive with the slides on it
Although I think that's strictly against corporate policy
 
@Adriaan Nice! I sometimes get to catch up with him when we're at the same conference. But I haven't been travelling nearly as much as I used to, so it's been a while.
@ballBreaker Do you mean the thumb drive, or the slides?
Or you doing a presentation?
 
lmao
Me doing the presentation
Strict rules against it..
At least I forsee that being a policy after I'm finished with the presentation
But no, the thumb drive
 
@CrisLuengo I didn't actually speak to him; ImPhys happened to buy beer because Paul Urbach and Nico de Jong got some kind of medical grant. Not a clue what it's about. I was drinking in one corner, and Lucas in the other :P Now that he's dean he's a rare sight at department borrels
 
Huh. Neat.
As someone of dutch heritage I'm definitely going to have to check this place out
oh fuck me, it's so far
 
@ballBreaker bitterballen, haring, ketel 1 jenever, this is a proper venue :P
 
9:40 PM
what's with the indonesian stuff
is it popular in NL ?
or is that just unique to this place
 
Indonesia used to be a colony of us; after they declared independence, we fought quite the war directly after WWII, and people from the Molukken, a Christian part of the country, predominantly came here. That's why we have a bit of an Indonesian influence in the country
 
Ahhhh okay, I thought it might have been colonized, there was that dutch spice company right?
East India I think?
Not sure if that's connected AT ALL but it sounds familiar
 
The VOC, Vereenigde Oost Insische Compangie, which headquarterted at Batavia, Java, now Jakarta.
 
Does that translate to the Dutch East India Company ?
nvm
googled it, and it does
 
We had a VWC as well, the West compaginie, which sailed to the US and South America, but was less known
 
9:51 PM
Ahh I had no idea
Was the VOC related to Indonesia at all? Or is that just my brain partially remember the word "India" was in there, and then associating that with "Indo" ?
I can probably google the connection myself to be honest, just at work late, and super braindead and half working
 
@ballBreaker yes, they basically owned Indonesia
 
Alright! So I guess I must have somewhat known that somewhere in the deep recesses of my brain
 
@Adriaan I guess those were the guys shipping slaves.
 
I'm gunna pack up for the day. Enjoy your nights gentlemen!
 
@AnderBiguri according to the current Brexit deal as approved by the UK government I would've been able to pursue a PhD at a British uni, and even stay my life there. I'm glad I found a spot perpetually outside the EU though :p
@CrisLuengo yes, basically.
@ballBreaker bedtime for me!
good night lads
 
9:56 PM
night dude
 
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