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09:02
cricket cricket
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tumbleweed
 
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10:07
Hello, I need a little help with integration. Is someone here? :)
10:24
nwm. I did it. :)
 
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13:05
Oh ho ho!
I've vectorized one of my older post-proc scripts, and it's just WHOOSHing
3-4x faster for a smaller problem, 5x faster for a big one
all it needs now is the viridis colormap and a port to numpy:P
I looked at a GUI I made when I first started at my job 6 years ago and wanted to cry
@excaza: I remember a few years ago when I wrote a GUI, and looked at an earlier GUI for inspiration. I was horrified at past-past me. Recently, I looked at the GUI I wrote then, and realized that I'm still improving :)
wait, did they actually make the change that your SO rep is your metaSO rep?
neat
Ah, didn't notice that, either
much better than before
I wonder if that's the only productive change to come out of the licensing quagmire
:p
13:20
Actually, they seem to have completely redone the meta, i.e. created a meta.stackoverflow instead of meta.stackexchange - I do not have any questions/answers listed anymore.
I seem to have missed that
@Jonas it's interesting how much my MATLAB code changed when I started looking at it as a programming language rather than a tool. I have no formal programming training so I was always using MATLAB as a tool and only within the last couple years started trying to apply "best" programming practices
Makes me want to take formal programming courses, I have a hard time motivating myself for self-teaching
13:41
@excaza metaSO rep has always been the SO rep
ever since the old metaSE has been migrated to become metaSO, and creating a new metaSE
metaSE has its own rep system
dedicated meta subsites inherit from their respective non-meta sites
Oh, sorry, @Jonas already wrote that
that has always been like that since my time here, i.e. autumn
I forget that metaSE is different from metaSO
@excaza it's not necessarily down to that
I've been properly taught C, and my matlab code used to be neat
since my activity on SO I realize how much more efficiently I can use matlab
but that's not due to formal programming, but rather inner workings of matlab:)
I'd estimate that 100% people with no formal programming training use eval regularly
13:49
@excaza hmm...dunno
I've never been taught not to use eval in the C course:P
14:11
Morning
/Afternoon/Evening
@ballBreaker afternoon to you, kind sir:P
14:27
Hi there. Question to you all. What to do if there is an "old" question with zero answers but the correct answer is already given as a comment, e.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/34921537/…
@AndrasDeak tips hat
does a little dance
@MatthiasW. Don't do anything?
Okay, it's just wasting time to stumble across somethink like this..
I dunno man, I'm the wrong person to ask
I think answering questions and obsessing over giving answers to questions is a waste of time anyways
I almost exclusively use this site to just ask questions at this point
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MATLAB

Proposed Q&A site for students, developers, and researchers who are engaged in numerical computation, visualization, programming, data analysis, algorithm development, model creation and applications using MATLAB.

Currently in definition.

Just found this out
Shouldn't it be closed as duplicate?
(hello everybody by the way)
14:43
Damn that site is going to fail
pretty hard
lol
I do not see why we should make a MatLab Stack Exchange out of StackOverflow
@excaza: I don't have formal programming education, either, but it turns out that after a few years of keeping up with e.g. Joel Spolsky's programming blog (joelonsoftware), and having code review sessions within my team, I ended up writing better code than some of the people coming fresh off formal training.
Turns out that experience is quite valuable here: Only when you know how much badly written code will hurt you in the future you become sufficiently motivated to adhere to guidelines
@Ikaros: There was a good reason to have something like Mathematica.se until MathWorks launched Matlab Answers
@Jonas I still do not see why it should be exctracted into its own Stack Exchange, Matlab Answers or not..
@MatthiasW. answer as community wiki
@Ikaros especially that is a quite low-traffic tag
@MatthiasW. scratch that
the reason the answer's in a comment is that it's a crap question, basic rtfm
vote to close, downvote, move on
@AndrasDeak Unfortunatly yes
14:52
I regularly don't give a proper answer to questions like these
unethical to get rep for it, and not very useful (dozen of questions like these all the time, just clogs up SO)
@MatthiasW. I am quite sure this is a duplicate of a larger question
@Jonas experience > school
@ballBreaker: not necessarily. School can give you breadth in a way experience never will.
If all your learning is on-the-job, you will have a tendency of missing solutions that are outside your narrow field of experience.
@Jonas Having done both, I still stand by my point haha
The thing that school really teaches you, is how to learn
The actual information you learn is borderline useless, because you'll use about 5% of it
15:08
But if you don't get the school learning, you will only know those 5%
And it just so happens that if your job is not cookie-cutter, bits and pieces of these 95% may come in handy from time to time.
I suppose it depends what you want out of the whole experience
do you want a job, and to have that specified knowledge to do your job and get hired
or do you want to spend tens of thousands of dollars to learn shit you will never need in your life :p
Although I'll admit, the university experience (in Canada at least) I would never trade
Never may be a shorter time than you think.
Lol depends on your program, man
I'm never going to use Quantum Mechanics again
I can almost say that as a fact
In my case, I got a PhD in biology without any formal training in that field, so I was very fortunate that my high-school biology was quite good (i.e. lots of "useless" bits of knowledge thrown in).
See it depends how philosophical you want to get about it lol
15:14
Yeah, I didn't think I was going to use QM again, either, until I had to explain to people how a total internal reflection microscope worked
Do you obtain knowledge because you want it, or because you need it? I guess is what it boils down to
See the thing for me, is that I got my degree in Engineering Physics - Computing .. I use the computing knowledge at least a decent bit since I'm in software engineering
I guess it does also boil down to your time horizon: you may have a rough idea on what you need to know for your first job, but after that, how many times are you going to switch fields and do something totally different?
But 90% of my software programming skills have come from on the job .. yeah the school gave me a bit of a base for what I've been doing, but the pure, everyday application of the skill is really what has developed me as a programmer
@Jonas Yeah that makes sense
If school should prepare you for everything, it cannot give you deep understanding of anything
See the beautiful thing about my career choice, is that usually the biggest difference between software engineering jobs, is the language being used (and the application as well)
So unless I completely stop becoming a software engineer, it's not that big of a deal to switch jobs
15:18
But at least you have some basics in a broad range, and can build on that when needed
Yeah I'll agree to that
I know it depends on the person too
I tried about 5% of the time in University lol
So a lot of what I ended up learning, was how to learn, and how to be incredibly efficient
I have started out with an engineering degree, got a PhD in cell biology, supervised a group of bioinformatics students, and am now leading a team to develop new disability measurements. Every new job required skills and knowledge I didn't have.
@Jonas I agree. I guess what I was trying to get at, is that school can be a good springboard, but in some careers (mine in particular) you don't even need schooling to get the job. So in reality, is it worth going to school.. I would still say it's worth it, but sometimes I have to really wonder.
Although to be fair, in Canada you can never call yourself an Engineer unless you went to school for Engineering, so I did literally have to go to school. But I really meant that programming is a job you don't need schooling to get
@Jonas That's pretty cool man
So yeah, I agree with you, too: learning how to efficiently acquire knowledge (and building the confidence that you can do it times and again) is one of the most relevant things you take out of school
I learned a lot from my bioinfo students, by the way. They'd go "so you said I should do X, but why shouldn't I use technique Y" and that's how I found out Y existed
Yeah and the "lets overwhelm them with assignments and tests" really forces you to either: a) develop insane time management skills, or b) learn how to get everything done in the shortest amount of time possible
@Jonas Yeah, sometimes teaching is the best learning available
15:26
If you teach the students that it's ok to let me know that they know more than I at times :)
15:45
@ballBreaker c) CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT
:D muahaha
Shh don't give my secrets away
15:57
@AnderBiguri: What about printing out a color strip, putting it next to the yarn, and getting it onto the picture? That way, you can correct for color changes
16:14
@Jonas This is actually a great idea
Thanks! Ill se what I do, Ill keep you posted :P
@AnderBiguri: i was thinking of something like this: library.brown.edu/dps/curio/its-time-to-make-the-targets
I've been robbed of an accept:(
@AndrasDeak :D
it's kinda fair, the accepted answer uses a function that internally uses what I've proposed
but it's weird that my answer got 0 upvotes, while the other, added 2 days later, got 3
it's probably due to the other answerer having 27k rep.....
16:31
Good old reputation bias
yup...
at least I don't think his answer is that better
much better?
U seem butthurt, you okay, man?
I'm mildly butthurt:P
it wouldn't bother me if the other answer was that much (or at least significantly) better
last time I was unaccepted, it was OP's self-answer which was clearly crap
I've never been unaccepted rightfully
not the end of the world, it's just bugging me a bit
16:59
Will help you calm yourself
(my favourite led zeppelin song)
@ballBreaker lol:D
thanks:P
=]
Was my post-exam song
throughout my undergrad
Although it's not even arguable how terrible the album is that it's from
@ballBreaker Or the band altogether, or any music released +-20 years from this
@Dev-iL you too are into Bach?
@AndrasDeak Been listening to some classical music lately, as it happens
17:12
@Dev-iL oh, I was joking:D
@Dev-iL: there's beauty in everything - just not always the same amount :)
though admittedly, music that has survived ~350 years and remained popular tends to be quite nice on the ears
@Dev-iL Eh its subjective, led zeppelin is pretty sweet
Not my favourite band or anything, but I would have to be insane to say they weren't very talented musicians
Man, I forgot how terrible not having adblock was until I started using Microsoft edge .. youtube ads are the worst ..
Cutting into my full album to try to sell me dryer sheets. wtf
17:29
Can't say that I love classical music.. It comes and goes... Sometimes I find it completely boring, lately, however, I enjoy the fact that youtube has 1-2hour videos of classical music, and the fact it doesn't jump between styles/artists really helps my attention
So what music do you like then?
You just said you think music is terrible from 1959-1999
LZ made music in 1990?
good to know
That was their last album, I thought it was 1990, but its '79
I was thinking of a different band haha
So you're into music from 2000 onwards?
Wtf?
Anyhow - no specific genre, but I suppose I prefer electronic and "weak" metal
hahaha so random
Ahh fair enough I guess
90's had some epic electronic music though
You can't forget a classic like this
17:32
I personally think the future of music will be metalstep
metalstep lmao I don't even know what that is
Is that like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAvhbzLc6Wg
first 30 sec of the above.... then it gets weird
I found very few reasonable metalstep track/remixes to date
lmao man if this is the future I'll just tap out now
Although it's still better than most mainstream music today
Check that song out I put up above, you might like it
the "castrated ft. kenta koie" one
Take for example KoЯn... they had a whole metalstep album
Unless you're prone to anger and wanting to fight people
Then don't listen to it
lol
17:35
I meant the future of numetal\ mainstream electronic etc
Nah it's not the future of mainstream
it's not simple enough
There's no real hook
Because you have "metal bands" (like korn) who went more into the electronic\dubstep direction
And "electronic bands" like Infected Mushroom who went into a more metal-ly direction
so it seems their paths cross @ metalstep
Did you listen to that song yet
I think you'd like it
Oh, Infected Mushroom! Can you give me taxi number?
Just started now
"Can I get a taxi number " :)
17:38
I haven't listened to Infected mushroom in a long time haha
The goa days were weird days
@ballBreaker I don't like anything that resembles growling
@Dev-iL O.o
I've been to many of their live shows and still enjoy it every time
@Dev-iL: indeed
@Dev-iL korn growls all the time
Your music tastes are confusing the hell out of me
17:40
You ever listened to Apocalyptica, btw? Nice cross between classical and metal
I don't listen to them almost (@Korn)
@Jonas Nope; I believe I heard the name though
Ahh so that's what you mean by "weak" metal
Legitimately weak-ass metal
lol
What can I do
Nah I get what you're saying now
So like 'Opeth' ?
17:42
When I was a bit younger, and hung out @ IRC, I used to ask people to send me 1 mp3 that they really like... I learned about several interesting bands like that
Hmm cool
Want mine right now?
That's how I found out about Soil :D
Bring it on!
Hmm let me focus on this, so I don't do something based off of a bias
@ballBreaker The point is you send something you like... not something I might like...
Yeah, I just don't want to send you something you'll clearly not like
17:44
If I may suggest something I'm listening to right now:
@Dev-iL Here's a song that fulfills both of those categories. It's one of my alltime favourite songs
@ballBreaker I only listen to this when I go coding with a friend and that's the kind of stuff he has... I think it's tolerable for me now... But I used to consider them to be too "heavy"
Hold on, let me see if there is a good quality one
Josh Homme is hands down one of the most interesting guitar players :D the sounds he gets are nutty
Just something random I find very well-done:
@Jonas That's interesting... Is that video-game music?
What'd you think of the one I sent ya, too heavy?
To be honest, it's one of their heavier songs haha
17:48
@Dev-iL: yep
very well done video-game music
@ballBreaker Patience, please :) I only just started
Heh ;) I just wasn't sure since you posted something after
I'm going for lunch, let me know what you think
@ballBreaker 25% into the song, I don't understand what they were going for exactly
@ballBreaker Bon appetite
*bon appetit, unless you intentionally mix French and English
18:28
@Jonas You can never know with Canadians... (you are right in correcting me, though)
@Dev-iL appetito, appetato...
2
;)
18:41
@Dev-iL heh, they were going for "awesome" I believe
18:52
@Dev-iL: the hobbit arrangement is pretty nice
@beaker hehehe
 
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20:47
Does any of you guys work with VS? This seems pretty cool:
@Dev-iL seems...odd
Hmm....
Interesting...
I wonder how it handles custom classes though.. that would be my real concern
and database accesses
If its pinging the database every god damn second I would get pissed off pretty quickly
Although it looks like you can turn it off too.. so I don't know. Interesting concept at least..
@Divakar check this song, some old-style trance
 
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A: How to create an image with Matlab (basic)

akamathalthough this is well explained in https://www.mathworks.com/help/images/image-types-in-the-toolbox.html, just for starters, you could try this: I = randi([0 255],100,100,'uint8'); % this is the red plane of your RGB image I(:,:,2) = randi([0 255],100,100,'uint8'); % this is the green plane I(:,...

(Read @David's comments on the question:D)
I found out you can't put "let me google that for you" links in comments :( :( :(
@David there was a LMGTFY rampage a while back, it Has Been Forbidden:(
just like adding +1, and maybe some configuration of "what have you tried so far?"
sad times :( that one deserved it
links to mathworks, however, are allowed ;)
@David big time
@beaker much less satisfying
23:04
that's why I think the first commandment of SO should be "Thou shalt Google the title of your question before posting."
There was this one comment of mine:
I suggest that you Read That Fine Manual: h = histogram(x,'Normalization','probability')Andras Deak Oct 7 '15 at 10:14
:D
@beaker OP would've found a bunch of solutions in Visual Basic, probably
Yep, I can't be that nice to link the help page directly
@David yeah, I understand
@AndrasDeak actually, they seem quite relevant
the basic part seems to be ignored
@beaker good guy google
23:08
👍
@rayryeng hey ray! do you have time today? :)
@beaker unicode box #404?;)
@AndrasDeak ;)
sorry, was an emoji... thumbs up
@beaker ah. (I suspected the emojiness)
@OneRaynyDay Well well well.. look who it is
(It's Dustin btw if it's not directly obvious)
There might be a lot of mustachioed lobsters running muck around this joint
Ah well I'm out for the night, cya guys!
23:24
@ballBreaker bye!

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