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12:58 AM
@AnderBiguri it’s a paywalled article. Do you have a copy for the poor sods without academic library access?
You can subscribe for a year, it costs $8.25 per issue. Or you can buy the one article for $39.95. How does that make sense???
You can get a subscription to all of Nature journals for $29.99 / 30 days, cancel at any time. Why is that cheaper than buying one article?
 
 
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5:35 AM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні I was wondering whether I had to link it here, eskarrikasko!
Will we put this room into gallery mode as well? I don't think that'd do much, given we don't do much actual moderation here anyway
 
And I need somewhere to slack off during work, now that I won't be putting in 60+ flags a day :P
 
6:23 AM
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Q: Labor action notice

sysadmin1138Today, 5th June, is the beginning of a strike by many StackExchange moderators over the recent policy announcement by StackExchange staff around handling AI and Large Language Model (LLM) generated content. You can read the strike announcement yourself at: https://openletter.mousetail.nl/ plus an...

There's a bit more numbers/background there on why SE decided this change
The high false-positive rate isn't tat big of a problem IMO, because one shouldn't just rely on a detector anyway, but consider the circumstances (6 answers of 2000+ characters without any grammatical failure posted on 6 different languages within the hour etc).
 
Yup
The whole premise is flawed because it starts from "regular users might use biased AI detectors" and the conclusion is "mods can't be trusted to judge from many kinds of signals whether a post is AI-written" which is the kind of fallacy that's hard to take as an honest mistake. Painting this all with "in the name of inclusivity" just drives it further home how cynical this all is. Not sure it's worth arguing about the face value of the "arguments" made by the company (for want of a better word). — Andras Deak -- Слава Україні May 30 at 21:26
 
The use of AI to improve non-native speakers' English though is relevant IMO. If you write utter crap English (or just mediocre) and use AI to improve the grammar/spelling/structure of your text after having written it yourself first, ChatGPT will of course change it to their general poo, causing every detector to pick up on it
 
6:38 AM
General Poo, the hero we need in this war against the machine
 
6:59 AM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Thanks! Didn't think of looking for it there.
 
 
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8:51 AM
@AnderBiguri Ah thanks for the clarification. Couldn't read the article due to the paywall like Cris mentioned....
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Thanks!
Don't think I ever saw that much bold text in the body of a paper
 
@Dev-iL that's one of my main pet peeves on SO... People abusing that
 
 
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10:00 AM
@Dev-iL I would offer to share, but I won't!
(mostly because there is an ArXiv version that you can get yourself if you want :P )
oh, Andras linked
 
 
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11:08 AM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні yeah its totally fair. I think this is recommendation very very focused to DDS (i.e. code whos outcome depends on the data, not databases etc) and therefore the quick iteration cycle for design is important, because almost by default, you don't know what will work
to be honest, the paper is written my mathematicians that got into AI and went "holy bananas coding is hard"
 
 
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12:36 PM
@Dev-iL hehe, final paper doesn't have it, luckily...
 

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