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@Botler oh ok ty :)
 
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03:43
@Wietlol There are probably 25 different certifications in azure. again, needs to figure out which certifications cover subject matter that you want to learn
 
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05:34
I wont be doing the certifications tho
 
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07:40
morning
Buenos dias
08:00
Today all day documenting and testing... Boring af
08:19
I again find myself stuck because of bad google skillz
Coders must develop their google-fu skills
I need to find a nice way of doing Infrastructure as Code for Azure DevOps
but it is much more common to let Azure DevOps handle the Infrastructure as Code
so I cant find any useful articles :(
Terraform is missing certain things we need, so I think I just have to use the sdk...
except that the sdk is a pain as well
@Cleptus looser
I actually like that
[Squirrel in Training] GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
A documentation for 1 single stored procedure will likely be 8 word pages
08:30
[Squirrel in Training] Those are the best kind
> stored procedure
hmm...
Pure SQL Server project, test are doing thru excel files and manually calling stored procedures
No automation whatsoever
I have seen SPs where 8 word page would be not enough
tests... Someone have tests?
08:44
That process is kinda simple, does an update on a single field of the table is some criteria is met or makes a version the row if a previous row is found on the table.
09:08
hmm... how do I exclude a folder from the build, but copy the files over to the bin?
like including resource not as project, but as reference?
ye
I have a folder called "Resources", which contains .cs files
also .csproj and .sln
which I just want to copy over to the binary
and exclude from the build process
a bin folder with a solution in it?
yep
at runtime, I just want to iterate over that resources folder (recursively)
why
09:12
and Files.ReadAllText()
generating a project:
- generate a git repo
- apply an initial commit with the template files of a project
- <more steps>
I thought it'd be easy to do all this (and many more things) via C#
I have done so for quite a while with Java, but someone wants a C# version of it
in Java, you already have separated src and res folders
generate git repo...
so there, it is quite easy
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looks like those things could be done in batch script
or PS if you're a millenial
ye... no
there is a bit of processing as well that no one at our place wants in bash scripts
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@Wietlol this too. Could be done in batch or bash script on the post build action of VS
09:26
PS is like -xcopy;
<run C# exe>
- <more steps>
that could work
still stupid tho
@mr5 is that a VS specific feature?
or dotnet feature?
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I think it's a VS thing
PreBuild()
msvc.exe
PostBuild()
then it wont work...
because then it wont work in CI/CD
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ohh
then you can just create a script after msvc is done
uhm, I think it's not msvc
msvc is for C++ I think
dotnet build
it was msbuild.exe tho
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09:31
oh
yeah lol
hmm I suppose the easiest way is to just add the folder to the packaged zip
except I have no clue how that would work for a cross platform script
meh, I'll just upload them to the file server
10:13
[Captain Obvious] Pre and postbuild acripts are an msbuild/dotnet feature
[Captain Obvious] And they do work in CI because I use them heavily
[Captain Obvious] My automatic SDK creation for my webapis are entirely done in the postbuild of the API project
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@CaptainObvious is Botler restarted already?
Botler, learn aa
Missing args
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Botler, learn a aaaa
Learned the command a
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Botler, a
10:20
@mr5 Sorry, I don't know that one.
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dfuq
!!sandbox
Invalid command! Did you mean: sandbox, sad, jandy? Try help for a list of available commands..‍.‍.‍.‍.‍.‍
Please go and play in the Sandbox
[Captain Obvious] Well I haven't restarted him
Botler, shutdown
I'll be back... (but in the sandbox so you'll have to invite me back here in a minute)
10:44
@CaptainObvious have you finally looked at the wietbot integration thingy?
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11:25
botler, uno 'use kotlin'
why is botler
why
is
...
@everyone get outta Discord
No wait
Cuz the relay is unstable as fuck
11:41
I guess I wont wait for cap'n to integrate wietbot
@mr5 they changed the name :o ^^
Bottler jsut needs to rejoin 7
@Squirrelkiller go in sandbox üpls ans invoke
||sandbox
Please go and play in the Sandbox
o/
Jack, what day is it
Jack is dead, long live jack
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@Squirrelintraining oh so you're telling me you've been watching that video too?
@mr5 No we heard it first in london in march and have been hearing the non-kids-jump-around-version of it
11:49
Hello friends!
Right let's see if I can ping everyone now
@everyone get outta Discord
...so?
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botler, uno 'use kotlin'
12:00
[Freerey] Wtfffffff
[SebastianL] i got a ping
[SebastianL] isn't everyone disabled?
@Squirrelkiller misha's lying to you
12:19
[Squirrel in Training] no he isn'T
@everybody see
fail
@everyone *
@CaptainObvious ... you use Azure DevOps quite a lot, right?
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13:12
Google changed their font on Google search results didn't they?
No idea but the Google logo is fancy with christmas lights now
for me still the good old boring google logo
gif is not necessarily animated
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13:26
Omg. Can't remember when was the last time I visited google.com xD
13:37
I know google's recently become more animated...literally
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the decorated google doesn't show to me too. hmm
regional thing?
I know if you view google from IP address where they can't tell your country, it'll say "the nether" or something
Anyone else from germany?
Haha nice. How can they not get a country to an IP address though?
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the nether what?
theneitherland?
the nether realm
13:48
@Squirrelkiller idk I just saw someone try to access google from Tails OS and that happened
What does the OS have to do that with that?
Also whats tails os
Ah I see
Still no explanation why it would have something to do with google not being able to map the IP to a location - the IP google gets called from is still registered somewhere.
i think it's cause Tails' default browser is Tor
Tor still has to use IP tho
It's literally how google knows where to send stuff
Like yeah, I can use a PO box to anonymously receive letters. But the PO box still has an address.
I don't remember man it was years ago I saw that
pretty sure it was OSFirstTimer's Tails OS tour
 
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15:29
so I found out Tails is on version 4.1.2...it was 0.2.3 first time I used it
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15:46
Am I the only one here who notices the font in Google search result did change? Or people just don't care about it? Cuz it's bothering me that it looks like a Bing search result now.
I think I see what you mean
it looks a little more sans-serif
s is different
curvy end of the letters are much flatter in bing
slowly I got used to JetBrains Mono jetbrains.com/lp/mono
I use it in VS and vim
I forgot you can change font in vs lmao
I should change it to Candara for no reason
16:06
Hey all, do most of the popular module javascript bundlers (i.e. Webpack, Browserify, etc.) require that we use Node.js? I'm asking because I'm developing ASP.NET Core application on Visual STudio 2019, and I do Not want to waste space, or add complexity to my project by adding Node.js?
Are there any popular module javascript bundlers that do Not require Node.js ?
16:16
I think I don't understand your use case
you only need nodejs in your application if it needs to run javascript on the server
I want to modularize my javascript code
like methods and variables with large values, etc
But your js code is only executed in the browser?
I want to avoid this in my HTML file
<script src="some-file.js"></script>
<script src="some-file2.js"></script>
<script src="some-file3.js"></script>
<!-- Dozens of similar lines here... -->
With CommonJS and tools that bundle it load order largely becomes irrelevant, something you don't need to manage.
So your JS code in run in the browser.
The no, no you don't need nodejs.
but, wouldn't it be good to use popular module javascript bundlers ?
16:25
Maybe locally for some dev stuff, but not in the application
I'm not sure how exactly this bundling works, but I expect it should be done at compile time and therefore not during runtime.
16:39
is there a single person here who would ever get an Amazon Echo?
Got one for christmas. Installed it a few months later. It's actually really nice to just shout "alexa play {music}" and it just works™.
I used to use FiraCode, now I settled on Jetbrains Mono... but I always go back to some variant of tengwar from time to time
Alexa, play Sweet Little Lies
actually now I'm wondering where it's getting the music from...Amazon's own music streaming service or something else?
17:00
uses amazon music no?
im not lunch >:(
never have been >:(
ye same i just stopped in to say hi
i always check in <3
@Freerey Configuration. Factory default is obviously amazon music, but you can switch to other services so now mine looks on spotify.
17:17
[Freerey] I wasn't even aware Amazon had its own music service
@Squirrelkiller you let me know xing existed. Is there anyway to filter a job search to only show me jobs that accept non-German speaking applicants?
All the jobs are in German, and it's causing my head to spin around
@Wietlol Always promoting JetBrains, hehe
By the end of all this I should have an intermediate knowledge of German ;)
@BlackPanther No idea lol, I'm the one getting messaged by recruiters, never actually had to look for a job on there. Found my apprenticeship/first job with help of the department of jobs (Agentur für Arbeit...what's that in english?) and never had to worry about that since.
[Captain Obvious] Department for jobs sounds plausible. What do they do
[mr5] Sounds like department of recruiters to me.
[Captain Obvious] Department for labour seems more like it. Do they do like support services for people out of work or something?
[Captain Obvious] Because thats what the Department for Work and Pensions do here
17:29
@Botler how's your job search going?
[Captain Obvious] What job search
@Botler @mr5 is searching for jobs. As far as I know
I remember he said he had a skype interview
[Captain Obvious] Oh you gotta specify who you're speaking to
[Captain Obvious] We can't see what you are replying to
@Botler I did. I replied to his message that was relayed from discord to stack overflow chat
Let me try again. @mr5 how's your job search going?
[mr5] Ah yes. I already have a job offer but they didn't give my expected salary. It's off by ~200USD. I said I'll get back to them on Friday.
[Captain Obvious] You replied to the bot
[Captain Obvious] 200$ isn't much spread over a year
17:32
@mr5 Congratulations. 200 USD is not that much. Is this in the UK?
[mr5] It is for us living on developing countries.
[mr5] It's in our country unfortunately. I hardly get any feedback from job overseas.
[mr5] But I can see where the recruiters are coming. I'm asking for 90% raise from my previous salary. I don't know if I should have lied in the first place.
[mr5] Also, I was talking about in salary / month, just in case you're referring on / year salary.
[mr5] I'm also not sure if I should ask for a compromise. They might pull off their offer but also, I badly need to get back to work or else I'm going to run out of money 😬
@mr5 I was thinking you would come over to Europe now, maybe in the future?
@mr5 but it seems that way because the Philipine's currency is weak compared to £, $ or £. In reality you're not
@mr5 In that case 200 * 12 is not as small
6 mins ago, by Botler
[mr5] I'm also not sure if I should ask for a compromise. They might pull off their offer but also, I badly need to get back to work or else I'm going to run out of money 😬
Well that's a question for the Workplace Stack exchange site
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17:49
@BlackPanther yeah I hope I can find someday.
@BlackPanther how about your job search? Did you find already?
@BlackPanther I saw an advise that I should try to negotiate, because they already offered me the job, but also, the recruiter tells me I have a competitor for the current position (that's probably a lie though since Xamarin devs here are very scarce)
@mr5 We're all young. So definitely
@mr5 I'm mostly searching in Germany atm. It's not easy as everything is in German so I might be wasting my time applying to jobs that won't even accept a non-German speaker.
@mr5 You can tell your own lie. Say that you have another job offer that is offering you a higher salary. If you have proof even better.
@mr5 Did you write a cover letter for any of the software developer jobs you applied to?
@mr5 and what websites other than stack overflow jobs are you using in your job search?
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18:06
@BlackPanther just try :) You will lose nothing anyway.
@BlackPanther Yeah, I actually managed to pull that lie :) It seems they recognize that I was playing the negotiation game with them, and reverse uno card me.
@BlackPanther yep, every jobs I applied is very customized.
@BlackPanther jobstreet, linkedin, indeed, glassdoor
LinkedIn is by far the most responsive. I think I get an 80% response rate (+/-) for every application I submitted there.
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18:28
I see SiT is lurking
18:44
[Squirrel in Training] i came back 2 work some more
[Squirrel in Training] why u still awake
[Squirrel in Training] isnt it like 4am in phil?
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it's just 2:45am here.
I'm doing a part time now though, plus I'm always late to sleep actually (3am - 6am)
[Squirrel in Training] u crazy mofo
[Squirrel in Training] also why part-time
[Squirrel in Training] also why not chat in discord?
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dunno. izz more brighter here in chat.so
part time cuz I've heard people are getting ~1k USD / week once you have a established profile.
I'm building my profile now.
botler, drake 'Sleep like a normal person' 'Sleep like a mofo'
[mr5] Why is the image here @ discord not previewed. I call discrimination!
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19:39
botler, learn kwispy i.redd.it/b79bi5s4cyf31.jpg -t image
Learned the command kwispy
20:03
[Li] What the fuck
mkay our senior IT guy hasn't been here in a week
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mm
botler, kwispy
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botler, collapse those u freak
20:07
@mr5 Sorry, I don't know that one.
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@Freerey prolly rona'd
if he was, I would've been told
Running into an issue unzipping a zip file in C# using ZipFile.ExtractToDirectory, but have no issues opening it in Windows Explorer. Anyone seen something like this before?
mr5
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You're probably doing it wrong.
Haha you're not wrong, but not sure what I'm doing wrong then
20:34
@Jamie is it a particular file? have you tested other known good files?
show excel file in webapp ?
anyone ever done that ?
would like to embed a file into my webapp.....
you could embed excel 365. but i have never done that
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Or redirect to Google docs and load the excel file from there.
@SebastianL I've never had an issue with the code until this particular zip file.
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@JamieLester are you accessing the file in relative path or absolute?
20:46
@mr5 :D
@mr5 Wow, that must take a lot of time. About how long do you spend on each cover letter. I refuse to write cover letters.
@mr5 Using absolute path
@mr5 Wow, maybe I should try LinkedIn instead of xing.
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@BlackPanther ~10mins. Including research xD
@mr5 I always wondered how you could be on at the same time as the rest of us in Europe. Are you sure you're not a vampire?
@mr5 Agreed.
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@JamieLester maybe try to check the file existence first before executing the zip file extraction
20:50
@mr5 That's quite fast. This cover letter, how many words is it?
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Maybe I'm just a vampire actually ^,...,^
@mr5 I do make sure the file exists
The question now is, do you remember who turned you?
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@BlackPanther I do 2 paragraphs at least and a header & footer.
@BlackPanther turned down or up?
I think the file is corrupt, but not sure how Windows Explorer is able to open it :/
20:51
@mr5 Damn I need to be faster, then maybe I can pump out cover letters too
Where are you based out of @BlackPanther
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@BlackPanther what I do is I have a template paragraphs and just modify them accordingly. Like, changing the position name, the relevant experience you have they are looking, etc...
@mr5 One becomes a vampire when they are bitten, the victim of the bite is then turned into a vampire.
@JamieLester Britannia
@JamieLester And you?
@mr5 I see, you're not writing each cover letter from scratch, because the positions you are applying to are similar
20:55
We share a Queen!
Canada is a nice place. What's the temperature where you are now.
Good question... Haven't been outside in a couple days with lockdown
4C right now
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@BlackPanther yep. I'm only picking front end atm (I'm actually hating this field)
Yes we do. She puts the Great in Britain
I thought that was the Bake Off
We got our first dumping of snow a couple days ago
21:00
@JamieLester Lockdown just ended today here for us!
@JamieLester It's also 4C here too. I never thought the UK would be just as cold as Canada in winter
@JamieLester Depends who you ask :)
That's cool, I haven't seen snow in a while now
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Speaking of snow, I'm seeing posts regarding snows now in 9gag
Haha not quite that much ...yet
@mr5 I can assure you that's definitely not the UK. Maybe Canada.
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No idea. Maybe somewhere in Scandinavian countries.
21:18
@mr5 can companies and recruiters contact you directly on indeed? I'm wondering if there is any point of uploading my resume.
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I'm not sure though. I'm receiving a connection request/messages on LinkedIn even though they didn't viewed my profile there. Maybe they saw my resume somewhere else but decided to contact me in LinkedIn.
@mr5 I see.
@mr5 when registering on glassdoor did you have to complete a review of your current employer?
I can't skip it for some reason
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ugh no. I didn't made reviews on my previous employer.
@mr5 I'm being forced to do that by glassdoor before I can complete registration, which is nonsense
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lul
21:38
[MR.TaNk] I did it without the forcing

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