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19:00
but he test solution may be lost
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ok will read though this..
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again so many thanks for the help
of course o:
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ahh visual studio has a reload project button so I have my project back
19:03
wish i could help more effectively tho, but MS products are so damm complicated these days
:)
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so now I am reading... I will let you know the outcome
ok
o:
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they are very complicated and don;t work very well
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they only seem to work for microsoft
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it is sad they are industry leaders
19:05
yeah :(
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ok thanks
19:24
@mikeTheLiar rip
?
who died? o:
@Hpjchobbes sorry man, not my intention to ignore you, i just don't know how to help o/
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Zorkind..may I ask you a question
of course o:
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maybe I am expecting some thing that will never be regarding tfs
did those articles offer any help? o:
user7480455
19:35
will tfs hold all the files or only files that you change going forward?
user7480455
yes but I am now stuck
it hold all CODE files
user7480455
I have everything set up
you may set it so it keep binaries but it's not recommended
user7480455
wow they sure don;t explain how they get to the database
19:36
i have never needed to go so deep into the TFS infrastructure :(
it always just "worked"
i use TFS more like a refrigerator, that you just turn on and it stays on, you know?
:p
user7480455
yeah.. this is the oddest thing I have encountered
have you tried to undo everything and restart from scratch?
you know... computers :\
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Yes.. that allowed me to get this far
oh i see.
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but I just don't see upload code or something similar
19:39
man, i am pretty sure you need to create a project in the admin console.
if you don't care about the project history, that is.
if you really NEED the history, then you want that database.
if not... just check how to add a project.
user7480455
I don;t know at this point my old brain is dead
after that you can just dump files in the Source Explorer
@Zorkind No worries!
@Hpjchobbes :)
well if you don't need the history
then just add a project :-\
and be done with it
user7480455
how do you add a project
19:41
in the tfs admin console o:
user7480455
yes I will take that route as a proof of concept for the superiors
user7480455
but it is on the web... or are you saying the one on the server?
user7480455
well it renders a web page from the sever
the local one, yes o:
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hmmm
user7480455
19:42
let me look deeper
lets google....
well this is the route i was saying yesterday developers.de/blogs/damir_dobric/archive/2006/10/13/950.aspx
user7480455
what is odd os that under team explorer
from Visual Studio
user7480455
ok let me read that again
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i will show you where I am at
oh ok
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but there is no soure code on the server
i don't think this is what you want o:
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with this method
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ahh ok
user7480455
19:44
I will delete this progress then
this is GIT Clone tho
:)
user7480455
yeah I just tried everything
try that link i sent lets see where it takes you
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i don;t want to use get but it was the only thing that seems to do something other than sit there
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ok
19:45
yeah i totally understand.
hell i would go for Subversion at this point hahahaha screw Microshit
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the cost of such a choice?
its a good repository, it has it's share of issues with merge, but all of them have it so.
user7480455
it does not seem secure
user7480455
based on the webpages I am seeing
well it is file oriented
yeah it's more for small teams and projects :(
user7480455
19:48
ah ok
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well let me read your link
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and I will see if I can make progress
Git is your best bet, even better than TFS because it's technology independent.
sure
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I am dismayed that this would take so much work... did microsoft consider its audience
i am sure they have a tool for this
we are just not finding it
altho Microsoft is prone to make it hard for you to downgrade stuff
Microsoft hates downgrades.
going home now, bye everyone o/
user7480455
20:02
take care any so many thanks
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who ever pinged me please dont
ok, Mr. "I can't disable sound for pings"
it's here btw
user7480455
thanks but ping me was not necessary
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I don't even know how did it
user7480455
20:09
it just pinged with no person so I am thinking some one is messing around
@KendallFrey the best part is when he says "developers"
Ah yeah I remember that part
user7480455
kendalls is not here
user7480455
i have not seen that name all day
20:12
Maybe if you took me off your ignore list
> Where is everyone? ~007, after putting everyone on ignore
user7480455
I only have a few p[eople ignored madara
@007 You have 15 people ignored. I can see your ignore list. Most of them are regulars here or in the JavaScript room.
user7480455
someone the other say that everytime they saw my text I was always in conflict with this user so I ignored them so that person would think I was the source of the conflicts
That's a tiny bit more than a few.
(Not saying you're in the wrong, mind you, you can ignore whomever you want)
user7480455
20:16
I don;t visit the java scripting room because they told me not to visit
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so off course I have them on my list
"java scripting room" lol
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but in this room not many
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they like to be rude so I ignore them
user7480455
the new group of people in control now in this room have been very nice and friendly...
user7480455
20:17
it a great way to start a new year thats for sure
20:48
Oh shit
It's Madara
What did I miss?
Nothing much. I'm just not that good at leaving chatrooms.
user7480455
21:05
they can be fun when there is good conversation and friendly people
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that is the main reason I come here...
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Mike and I have been chatting since about 2017
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good guy... fun times
> Since about 2017
That was a week and a half ago dude.
user7480455
is that a problem?
user7480455
21:07
lol
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and 2017 is about 365 days
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and in an old mans life each day is a gift
I think it might go further back than that.
I've been here too long.
user7480455
I did not discover the stack overflows until last year
I'm fairly certain 007 came around in '17
user7480455
21:09
it was not something I knew about and it was not until the info came down that we cold access this site
user7480455
this was my start time here 2017 April
Some day we will learn where 007 lives.
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never
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that will never be disclosed
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and it is not relevant to this place
21:10
> chat user since 2017-02-02
Apparently.
Holy crap I've been a chat user since 2012?
user7480455
wow how do you make this discovery?
he built it from parts in a cave
user7480455
chat user page?
Click on your username, "User Profile"
user7480455
21:12
wow how did you accomplish this even my icon
You have 15916 lifetime messages.
blinks
user7480455
this is tracked?
Yep
And every message you've ever posted is publicly available unless it was deleted.
user7480455
okay all.. well thanks I will need to log off.. chat at you again soon
schrt my cover is compromised, repeat, my cover is compromised schrt
21:15
translation: I ripped a hole in my pants and one testis is hanging free
 
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22:20
Hi everyone. This is my first time in chat, so I'm not really familiar with how things are here
I was wondering if anyone else was having issues accessing certain pages on MSDN right now?
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Ah, so not just me then
22:22
yeah me too
Heyo, I was wondering if anyone knew of a good pattern or practice for databinding an observable collection to a WPF List, wherein their is a viewmodel for the items in the collection. I don't really want to maintain 2 lists (one for the model items, and one for the viewmodel items unless i have too).
I made a datatype that tracks two lists concurrently
What i was wondering if there was a way in wpf to assign a facade to the observable collection items that WPF would apply to the items before display
Not sure what you mean by facade
The facade pattern (also spelled façade) is a software design pattern commonly used with object-oriented programming. The name is an analogy to an architectural façade. A facade is an object that provides a simplified interface to a larger body of code, such as a class library. A facade can make a software library easier to use, understand, and test, since the facade has convenient methods for common tasks, make the library more readable, for the same reason, reduce dependencies of outside code on the inner workings of a library, since most code uses the facade, thus allowing more flexibility in...
It would basically just be a ViewModel for the items in the collection
22:28
But basically my datatype acts as an observable collection, and you give it an "inner list" to track and it constructs an "outer list" from that. When you make a change to the outer list, it gets reflected in the inner list because you tell it which property to access to get access to the inner item (it does this via reflection). Idk if there's a better way, but that's how I did it. I've made it generic and reusable, so it's come in quite handy
Thats a good way to do it
Its a bit heavy, but it might be the correct way. What I really want is WPF to give me a way to pass the list items through a sort of filter class to prepare it for display. I don't know if it has the capability, but it should.
Can't help you there, sorry
@Lauraducky Does your tracking class use Generics?
It'd be a neat class to add to my library if it is set up that way :P
Yeah it does
Ah cool, is it on a gist or something?
@KendallFrey It's been years, and you're still an obnoxious little twat, lol
*you're
I'd like to share it, not entirely sure about the legality, since it was created for my work and (I think) they technically own it
@Lauraducky No problem, I will probably just implement one if I can't find a standard one.
22:39
@KendallFrey omg this is great
NH.
NH.
has anyone heard of avoiding using Entity Framework for SQL logging for performance reasons?
Hmmm looking harder, I've found something called ICollectionViews, reading about it now

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