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posted on March 18, 2017 by Scott Hanselman

Maria and I were updating the NerdDinner sample app (not done yet, but soon) and were looking at various ways to do bundling and minification of the JSS and CS. There's runtime bundling on ASP.NET 4.x but in recent years web developers have used tools like Grunt or Gulp to orchestrate a client-side build process to squish their assets. The key is to find a balance that gives you easy access to

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01:05
I'm kind of curious, why do all of the C# positions seem to involve Javascript and web technologies? Am I the only one that uses C# for desktop development?
desktop is a pain to maintain so more companies are moving away from desktop apps
01:16
No, Web apps are a pain to maintain but easy to deploy to the customer.
deployment is part of maintenance
Web apps are also a bit worthless in advancing the art of computing. For example, I can still run old programs because they were written for the Desktop (I may need older systems to run them, but they still work). When a Web app gets old, there is no way to run it anymore because the infrastructure is gone.
but you'll just disagree, because you disagree w/ everything
Maintenance is after deployment. But you can classify it however you want. Saying that you maintain something before you ship it makes no sense to me.
oh, so you fix code and don't deploy it? lol
or you deploy code that wasn't written?
01:20
Once you fix it you have to deploy it again. It is a cycle.
there you go
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I guess what I find a little annoying about the job setup is, I get ads for jobs that only advertise c# and .NET, I think "alright, here's something I might be interested in"... darn it's asp.net, jQuery, and Angular, I don't know those; it would be nice if there was some kind of generic "web" tag on SO for jobs that I could filter out
yeah i could see how that could get frustrating
do they let you use specific keywords, like wpf or winforms?
but that still doesn't cover services
and schetuled task type stuff
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hmm, that's not a bad idea, but it kind of screws up embedded too
winforms is totally dead, wpf isn't bad
nice XD
now you just gotta filter out the shitty vb.net ones
lol
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01:27
I'd rather do VB.NET then JS
lmao, i wish i could disagree
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honestly VB.NET is not all that bad with option strict on
from what I've heard about Javascript it's like Matlab where it just creates variables automatically
i haven't done vb.net in forever, i hardly remember anything
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or maybe javascript is just type unsafe, I forgot
VB.NET is pretty much just C# with strange syntax, or at least that's how I think of it
eh, it's a little of both, you get around the 'hiding' of the types by using triple ='s, and you can get around using variables w/o declaring them w/ 'use strict'
and something like jslint is awesome
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01:30
there's only one or two things you can't do in VB.NET that you can do in C# (unsafe code is one of them), there's a couple things you can do in VB.NET that you can't in C# (e.g. properties with parameters)
basically lets you know if you messed up, like compile time errors for C#
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oh, that's interesting
well, not exactly
but it lets you know if you're missing semi-colons and not following standards, using variables w/o declaring them
etc
i do a lil bit of js @ work, not by choice, lmao
and nothing is worse than unit testing it
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ugh case in point job posting stackoverflow.com/jobs/99226/…
the only time "c++" shows up is in the tag
 
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12:43
:D tried to find problem in my code:
https://s16.postimg.org/n76zlt3r7/crypt2.jpg
@Mr.Noob that is one hell of a diagram
:D
I think I will leave this problem for some better day
I need Alan Turing help...
 
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15:39
If I create and object with a public property of array type, do I need to create an instance of array too?
15:54
yea
 
1 hour later…
17:05
opinions of ajax vs angular?
these have so much in common as a car and a particle accelerator
i get so confused with a lot of this front end stuff and javascript
i dunno where to get started
doing pretty well so far with backend of aspnet mvc
 
3 hours later…
20:33
Good evening everyone, I came here for advice. I am about to extend my application for remote (web) control. Currently my app works in WPF and uses localSQL DB. I am planning to give users possibility to remotely manage their data, sort of "cloud". That would mean I will have to replicate their data and sync changes once they are online. What kind of replication/synchronization technologies would you recommend?
Is it better to go with http/API or some kind of SQL replication/WCF?
21:03
hello, in c# can a class declare a private field that has the same name as a private field of a class it extends? thanks
okay thanks @milleniumbug
21:55
Should I learn TypeScript to learn angular 4?
i didn't even realize angular 4 was out
@peterpep hi, did you already figure this out?
@Marek basically yeah. But you'd also have to build all the wpf functionality into a web app, duplicate it, unless you happened to be using an api for your wpf app, which i doubt
@Delthas private means it's only accessible from the current class, so if you extended that class, the new class wouldn't even know about the base classes private members
@MohamedAhmed TypeScript if i'm not mistaken allows you to write javascript in a syntax thats more traditional to regular programming, and i doubt angular 4 forces you to use it
22:20
@SteveG figure what out?
theres an arrow next to my message, click it and it'll show you what i responded to
havent had a chance really to look into it much more. looks like theyre used for different things
ajax allows web browsers to call the server without refreshing the page.
angular allows you to build single page applications easier, you know, updating stuff on the screen, changing stuff on the screen, and one of the tools it can use is ajax to get more data without refreshing
23:17
hey folks
I'm home again, yay
whats the consensus on SPA vs whatever the name is for non SPA?
are web pages moving more towards SPA?
23:37
i think any answer to that would be a bit subjective, SPA's are becoming more popular, but that doesn't mean all pages are moving towards it, or should
but, i'm probably full of shit, who knows

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