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5:00 PM
 
spot on.
 
And I quote "easier to maintain"
 
Front end guys confuse me.
 
@CharlieBrown I enjoy talking to people with crazy opinions sometimes
How is it easier to maintain
 
we get into arguments sometimes like "well, your a full stack dev, not a ui dev"
 
Uhhhh... full stack is everything, not a single thing
 
But he's a specialist
 
user47589
@CharlieBrown that CSS is horrible, how anyone expects that's maintainable is beyond me.
 
The only justification I can think of is "I don't understand how CSS classes work"
 
Its generated from a less file. I keep trying to explain the output of a less file should still be good css
What he has created is a stylesheet for each page, and each page has its own h1 block
 
5:03 PM
ok, that explain it better, ui guys don't give a shit to what less after all generated
i worked with several ui guys on our sass package, and they are somehow the same
 
Yeah that makes some sense to me
 
.unicorn-heading {....} is still better
 
I don't know as much web stuff as I should but if you're just writing less/sass/whatever, i don't understand why you should care too much about what css it compiles down to
Other than, if it's particularly shitty, it might be a sign that the less/sass was also written shittily.
 
imagine the maint nightmare this will be, where every less style inherits from another. When you change a base less style, you have no idea how many styles will change
 
can shittily be an adverb btw
it needs to be
 
5:05 PM
when they are saying that, it basically translates to "you know, i've no idea how these shit get there in the css, and i don't want to track back to the less that either me or some other asshole wrote, so just leave it like that until something is broken"
 
@CharlieBrown hey! 90s OO all over again!
but in web land!
 
like any programming, favor composition over inheritence
<button class="btn btn-large btn-primary"> over <div class="some-view"><button class="btn"/></div>
 
woo bootstrap
 
when i asked, "does any other framework that you know of use this approach" the answer was "none, but i think we can do it better"
granted, im pumped about the initiative
 
@Jeremy absolutely
In other news, what do I want for lunch? And don't say a panini.
 
5:12 PM
a panino
 
@mikeTheLiar cuban panino
 
@CharlieBrown With HTML there’s sometimes no way around inheritance. Like creating a composite field where the textbox is padded with a fixed-width dropdown on the right and then with a fixed-width button to the right of both of them, while the group of them must take up the full width of their container.
 
no doubt
 
That’s what I don't like about HTML in the first place.
 
Its a double edged sword, the things that make css and html so good are the things that make it difficult to work with
 
5:15 PM
Itch your right nostril with your left buttcheek in order to do this simple thing.
 
So I'm looking at an error log saying "The parameters dictionary contains a null entry for parameter", meaning a querystring value was most likely missing. But I have no idea why it would be missing.
The request is for a map tile via a format-url-string we pass to openlayers javascript and it works fine the rest of the time. The errors just happened for one user for a span of one second.
Kinda makes me wish we logged all querystrings.
Maybe the user's a hackerfucker like me that likes to mess around with javascript once in a while.
 
Cafeteria open from 11 to 2, but of course everything's gone by 12
 
@MikeAsdf IIS?
 
@MikeAsdf user is idle, then gets logged out and browser sends request?
 
@tweray Azure + MVC.NET, so yeah, IIS is in there somewhere
 
5:21 PM
Sometimes that happens on ours
 
Imagine the joy in your children's eyes when you unveil this on family board game night http://www.c-jump.com/ https://t.co/Vr4z5ZKV8b
 
I'd expect an authentication-related error in that case
 
@MikeAsdf see if you enabled iis log then, most case it should be enabled. dig out client's ip in your own log so you can track back into iis log to dig out the querystring from raw iis log
 
ah, the glorious "formatting only" pull request. It is like the Durian of PRs.
You see, I have no interest in CLEANING your house, I just wanted to make sure all the pictures were hung exactly straight on the walls.
lol
 
this board game sucks, it supplies c, c++, and java, just no c#
 
5:25 PM
@Jeremy a board game that teaches kids to use GOTO? throws game off the table, across the room, into the fireplace "ARE WE RAISING A DEN OF SINNERS???"
 
@MikeAsdf idk there are dark corners of the world where people still write C code with a lot of GOTO
Also WOW this video hits hard: youtube.com/watch?v=OkSRJSUY0vs
 
Wait for the ASM edition.
 
I guess low-level stuff is kinda acceptable
since that's what processors do; with instruction sets that form a jump-to-conclusion mat
 
5:45 PM
guys, how would you feel about a new dev asking you a million questions about a new api your team is now using?
 
rtfm itim
 
lol I'm not familiar with that term
 
New dev always ask million questions. That’s how they become the experienced dev.
 
Thanks Nomenator, that's what I wanted to hear :P
 
read the manual, if there is manual
 
5:47 PM
manual has a million ways to set something up but if you're not sure what your company wants out of it... then you kind of have to ask
The task I was assigned is very vague
I keep asking the other dev on another team how he set it up
Basically, we want to copy the other team and no one on my team understands the api
 
yes, point is, if something is covered in manual, then you can avoid annoying others. but of course, some dev are pretty happy about teaching, so if you are lucky
 
If there’s not a manual how to set up that thing, write it yourself while you sort it out, put it on intranet, everyone will thank you.
 
if you have a million questions, the api team has bad documentation
 
the weird thing is... I think I know how to set it up technically, I'm just not sure what my team wants
the use case and requirements are vague
 
then that's about requirement gathering, i won't really worry too much about annoying ppl on that part, make it as clear as possible
 
5:53 PM
maybe your team is looking for you to make something with it, instead of dictating how you do it
 
Also, if it is different details in one process, you can do it with the details you choose and then produce a list of these nuances on one batch. Maybe even develop a generalized template. And then, when you have all of this stuff in one pile, you can approach someone for a talk. More effective addressing as a single batch.
 
how do i download the latest version of c# through NuGet Package Manager?
 
have to install the framework package
 
What is the stacktrace? Is one of the parameters you supply null? — rene 4 mins ago
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Q: datatable has no data after filling it from stored procedure - c#

Umm E Habiba SiddiquiI am trying to get all the rows from a stored procedure in a datatable, I used sql profiler and I can see that parameters are going fine and stored procedure is resulting more than 2000 records but the datatable I am filling has null and the datagridview gives me null exception because its dataso...

 
stacktrace is in the call stack tab when you debug
 
6:01 PM
dang stacktrace
 
@UmmEHabibaSiddiqui you fill a dataset, not a datatable
A dataset contains 1 or more tables
 
@CharlieBrown you can also directly fill a datatable, same logic worked for another datagridview fr me
for*
 
hover over the dt, do you see null there? if not, you can actually use datatable view in vs debugger and see if there's data in it
 
The joys of using ServiceMOdel.Channel.Message.CreateMessage and needing to keep attributes :(
 
@twe
@tweray datatable is empty
 
6:11 PM
Another bit of fun: how do I get equivalent of @Html.DisplayNameFor() (or @Html.LabelFor(), but in the model, not in Razor. I tried using this: stackoverflow.com/questions/5474460/… but it puts out an empty string. I imagine on account of [Display(Name = "Key_of_resource", ResourceType = typeof(Local))].
 
@UmmEHabibaSiddiqui so it is empty, not null correct? just to clarify
 
Hi guys
 
6:31 PM
@CharlieBrown wtf.
that is atrocious
 
so I had my sync with my boss just now, brought up the communication issue with coworker, he agreed and said that was one area he could improve and he appreciated my working with him
so that's good
 
user47589
hooray happy endings
 
yay!
I thought I owed $15k in taxes but it turned out to be only $2500 :)
 
user47589
i'm afraid to do my taxes.
 
I mean, I still have to deal with the communication issues, but he accepted that it made sense that it slowed me down a bit
 
6:34 PM
Did he suggest a possible comm solution?
 
I said "but coworker is really good at typescript and CSS etc. and he's been helping me a lot so that's appreciated"
 
I feel like there is a M * A * S * H reference somewhere in there.
 
not a solution really, just acknowledged that there was room for improvement
so he at least knows that :)
 
:)
 
I don't wanna throw coworker under the bus or anything, I wanna help him grow
 
6:35 PM
Nothing grows under busses.
 
that's why I was iffy about bringing it up at all
except zombies according to video games
 
The zombie apocalypse was caused by throwing coworkers under buses.
You guys need more sandboxing for the css if that is possible from what you describe.
 
w8... isn't you guys dealing with tfs? why does it involve typescript and css?
 
css in my opinion is an area where many places, including Stack Overflow, are very callous about performance and design
I am constantly seeing conflicting definitions, duplication, excessive styling to outdated classes, fixed pixel width obtained from server calculation, tables used for design because of the width algorithm, and absolutely positioned elements which should have been part of the document flow.
</rant>
 
user47589
A++++ would rant again
 
6:42 PM
:)
 
@TravisJ I ran the Chrome CSS audit tool against our page and it was something like 97% unused, lol
 
lol ouch
 
I mean, some of it is there for different pages
 
you are not even capitalizing all words, that's a bad rant
 
SORRY
 
6:42 PM
@TravisJ you like that one, huh?
Ive got more gems like that
 
@CharlieBrown - That one was the worst I have ever seen.
 
but we're using SASS... we should be using componentized CSS, not a monolithic multi-KB file
 
user47589
I just tried downloading a copy of an older version of this project from TFS. i figured it would prompt me for the download location. oops. instead, it tossed away my work since my last commit and overwrote it with the older version, all without warning. there goes half a days work
 
@CharlieBrown I'm in the middle of debugging a homebrew version of Bootstrap columns :)
 
@Codeman - Agree. Also, if so much effort is placed into css, why isn't it being minimized during precompilation? I always wondered this.
 
6:43 PM
@Codeman that's normal, common practice is to load a huge css for the whole site so it's cached and no longer need 2nd load
 
@TravisJ it is minified, but we send the debug bits along with the minified bits... lol
 
@Amy - onoes :(
 
I keep seeing more usage of double-dash in css naming. But without clear rules on usage
 
@Amy - tfs strikes again!
@CharlieBrown - I agree with your original statement, just place a class where the style should be, and name it something relevant.
 
user47589
I do not like TFS.
I do not like it with a snack,
I do not like it with a sack,
I do not like it with a cat,
I do not like it with a hat,
I do not like TFS.
3
 
6:45 PM
Naming is admittedly an issue with most things though for us poor souls.
@Amy - Beautiful.
 
think if you change the workspace it would have prompted for a new download location
 
this is a real class definition from one of our files .container--promo.variation--interior .container-header .header a {}
 
i can live with tfs if it pairs with some kittens i guess
 
user47589
It would take a lot of kittens to balance out TFS
 
@CharlieBrown - {}? Sigh :(
 
6:46 PM
@CharlieBrown that's horrifying
 
but saying that, i never really suffered from tfs tbh, i jumped through and and forced the whole office with git
 
a good CSS minifier will kill empty declarations like that, won't it?
 
user47589
I wish I could convince my office to switch to Git, or even SVN
 
srsly though, its prob better that its empty
that thing is a maint nightmare
 
@Amy you use old TFS?
 
user47589
6:47 PM
I'm on 2013
 
my last job they were using TFS2005
at least TFS2013 is kind of tolerable
TFS2005 was just... horrifying
 
user47589
for some definitions of tolerable, yes.
 
hey, don't badmouth your product, it's very likely the guy sitting next to you was on tfs2005 team
 
user47589
Hurt his feelings, please. He must rue and lament his decision to work on TFS2005.
 
so my brother wrote an article that is apparently trending on Medium, that's kinda cool
@Amy I didn't have a choice, I was consulting
@tweray a common thread when speaking to execs is "when can we kill TFS?"
 
6:50 PM
lol, that, should be published and tweeted on every msft employee' account
 
lots of corps still don't trust the cloud.
 
user47589
consulting doesn't take away your power of choice. if it did, the Matrix would crash
 
@Codeman - Or perhaps "If we were to kill TFS, which manner would be appropriate?"
You only have the illusion of choice
 
@Amy it absolutely did take away my power of choice. client used TFS2005, we weren't given the choice to work in our own system
@TravisJ that's basically it. TFS still makes money and clients still wanna pay for it, so it's not gonna die
 
user47589
Answer: place the TFS computer between two huge electromagnets, and slowly turn the power up.
 
6:51 PM
here's the article, btw: medium.com/@civilianseven/…
 
if(product.InBlack) continue;
 
@TravisJ you understand the business side more than most ;)
 
;)
 
what is medium.com?
 
user47589
an address
 
6:52 PM
a personal blog site?
 
@Failsafe an open blogging platform focused on technology
 
A crowd blogging tool
 
ahh
 
another blogging website
 
speaking of css
Medium's font css is kind of nice
font-size: 21px;
line-height: 1.58;
letter-spacing: -.003em;
it is easy to read
 
6:54 PM
lol
 
;)
 
-0.003em
tell me how much is it
 
It is roughly half a pixel
 
0.003 of capital M in current font size.
 
It does help
@Nomenator - Is that the official measurement?
 
user47589
6:57 PM
I scoff at a measly 0.003em. Scoff, I say.
 
@TravisJ, No. Strictly speaking, it’s 0.003 of a point. Point is an exact measurement, M is not.
 
@Amy - If you turn it off, you will see the difference.
 
@TravisJ or 0.003 of the number of points your font size it takes… I can't really put a finger on it.
 
user47589
turns it off and back on again
 
Yes. I guess, it cannot be 0.003 of a point, because point is constant, but em varies by font size. Ughh. I need to read a typography book now.
 
7:04 PM
@Codeman - I think there are a few issues left out of your brother's article. For example, the reason the FBI is pushing so hard for this is because the previous iOS version had a backdoor for encryption and they are just asking to use that aspect on the current data. Also, the world didn't end in the previous version which had that included. In addition, the FBI tools (not hyper modern ones) were available during the time period noted (it had been around for 30 years at that point).
 
@TravisJ you should make a comment to that effect :P
 
Anonymous comments are not allowed and I do not feel like providing my credentials to Medium :P (I do appreciate the irony)
I am not really a fan of logging in using OAuth all over the place. Why can't I just create my own account? Really annoys me that places just farm out the user aspect.
 
user47589
John Oliver did a segment on the FBI encryption case a day or two ago
 
Yeah I saw some of the headlines but didn't watch the episode.
 
user47589
I like Snowden's take on the case: the FBI already has the data they seek, but they can't use it in court because it was obtained illegally. they need the courts to make it okay.
 
user47589
7:14 PM
Bruce Schneier had a good article about it. He's supporting Apple vs the FBI.
 
@Amy did you really thing Bruce Schneier would be against encryption? He's the Jon Skeet of digital security.
 
user47589
haha
 
user47589
no, i didn't thing that.
 
// version A
<div class="comment">
   <h2 class="comment-title">Title</h2>
   <p class="comment-content">Content</p>
</div>
// version B
<div class="comment">
   <h2 class="comment--title">Title</h2>
   <p class="comment--content">Content</p>
</div>
// version C
<div class="comment">
   <h2 class="title">Title</h2>
   <p class="content">Content</p>
</div>
Preferences?
Another variation?
 
@CharlieBrown - I would prefer not to have the nested class names at all
 
7:18 PM
How would you handle this markup?
 
user47589
i prefer C, then A, then B.
 
<div class="comment">
<h2>Title</h2>
<p>Content</p>
</div>

.comment{}
.comment h2{}//title
.comment p{}//content
 
lol, we list that example as what not to do in our styleguide
 
It is the most efficient
 
It depends on the structure of the html
and h2,p has its own styles, which all have to be overriden
 
7:20 PM
If the structure changes, the css should be reviewed
Review prevents deprecation
The selector type wouldn't change the elements needing style overrides
 
Right, but if the definition of h2 changes, who knows how many places on the site that might affect
 
.comment .title would have the same issue
It will only change under the comment class.
.comment h2{} means only h2 elements that are children of elements with the comment class
afk for a sec meeting
 
h2 { font-size: 12pt; }
.comment h2 { font-size: 11pt; }
/// if you change h2 later and add color, it breaks .comment h2 without you knowing
I prefer A myself
 
okay I returned
re: later change. That wouldn't be any different than the other selector.
 
If you have h2.commentTitle and change h2 later, it still breaks h2.commentTitle.
 
7:26 PM
yep, good call, my example sucks
 
There’s no way around it.
 
h2{ color: orange; }
.comment .title { font-size: 11pt; } //still has orange color
 
i would use divs
semantically, all divs is silly
 
I would use a fieldset with a legend and a div
But hey, that's just me
 
// bootstrap method (and foundation)
.comment
.comment-title
ive done both anyway
 
7:28 PM
<fieldset class="comment">
 <legend>Title</legend>
 <div>Content</div>
</fieldset>
 
It’s just when you have …
div.body .maincontainer .subcontainer .childToTheLeft:first . … ten lines of code down … a{color: #adf;}
That’s where the mess is.
 
.comment{}
.comment legend{}
.comment div{}
 
styleguide for my team right now gist.github.com/carbonrobot/0b36d955cbdd273b53bc
im not sold on some parts of it, so im revising it right now
naming is a b#$^& in this industry
 
@CharlieBrown - So, uh, your button thing has a glaring issue imo
Are you placing button elements with the default type?
 
Not following the ?
 
7:31 PM
@CharlieBrown - I suppose this is only for naming convention
// prefer
<button class="button button-default"/>
But the button example has so many things wrong with it.
 
Im listening...
 
it will be implicitly typed as submit and using /> on it will negate the benefit of the button element itself
 
oh, ah. syntax
yeah, should prob make it more accurate
 
@CharlieBrown - Overall the styleguide is just a preference so at least it is well defined.
 
exactly. ask 88 developers how to write css and get 94 answers
 
user47589
7:34 PM
lol
 
ask me last year and i would have given a diff answer than today
 
I prefer to not use class names on elements if I can avoid it because it reduces bandwidth.
 
@TravisJ surely you can't be serious
 
Speed. Speed. Speed.
 
@Codeman hooray
 
7:36 PM
This is the most complicated load in the application:
And it isn't even public facing so people could probably even bear to wait. Public facing sites start to lose large percent of user base once you get above the 2 seconds threshold
 
@MikeTheLiar It would depend very much on the depth of your pages. If you only have a maximum depth of 10 nested elements in your page, you can get away with a small number of classes. If you have a bunch of elements which go a hundred nodes deep, you need a shitton of classes just to keep track.
 
Google did a study that was so convincing to them that once concluded they started limiting results to 10 per page in order to improve page load. And they barely have anything on their page
 
its def something to consider. our new apps are angularjs, so all html is downloaded at once. reducing the size of that initial pull would help
Do pull requests, make money! codemill.io
 
@CharlieBrown - So that page took 4.6 seconds to load =/
I can only guess how quickly everything else must work
 
@TravisJ 4.6 seconds
in the trash
the loading circle animation isnt smooth
0/10
 
7:50 PM
The parallax is fake. They just use alternating colors.
 
-5/10
 
Linq question?
 
@im1dermike - please
 
user47589
I love those.
 
@CharlieBrown ew.
Why does that seem like a terrible idea
lol
 
8:06 PM
Why VS keeps crashing when editing T4 templates and freezing when running them?
 
user47589
do your templates use any reflection?
 
Reflection really should be called introspection
 
@Amy Perhaps. They’re mostly EDM.
 
user47589
if so, that's why. reflection keeps the reflected assembly open in memory, and VS can't touch it, so VS goes "oh gosh no not again i can't handle thisssssss" and loses its mind
 
or MagicStringInterop
 
8:11 PM
@Amy it does not happen always. Usually I get 20-30 clean runs before it crashes or freezes.
 
user47589
instead of using System.Reflection, use Mono.Cecil. It doesn't keep the reflected assembly in memory.
 
@Amy thanks. I shall make that a point.
 
user47589
Oh, then that isn't the issue.
 
user47589
I'm not sure then.
 
user47589
check your event log, VS might emit an error message when it crashes.
 
8:14 PM
Sometimes freezes when I go to debug web app. Launches it, opens Chrome, app works, but the VS interface is stuck with the debug button greyed out, but no pause/stop buttons. Weird stuff, that VS.
 
@TravisJ: I ended up posting it: stackoverflow.com/questions/36021036/…
 
I have a weird request from a User that I'm not sure how to implement in a good way.

Basically they will be in a Dialog Window creating an Object. When they click Create, they want the dialog to launch another Dialog to Create another of the same type of Object, with the object they just created prefilled in one of the fields.

I can do the above...like this:

                    this.Visible = false;

                    FormCreateObject createObject = new FormCreateObject (_currentObject);
                    createObject .ShowDialog();
because it sort of recursively gets called until the user manually closes the form.
 
@im1dermike - Why don't you have any navigation properties in your class definitions?
 
@Michael You need to keep track of the curent session. Push/pop.
 
user47589
i love push pops.
 
8:19 PM
@Nomenator how so?
 
@Michael Well, you can keep track of history recording it into array or list or whatever.
 
Not really, because the form is recursively being called.
So then everytime the form is called it reinstantiates the history thats being recorded
 
You mean… When you hit "create", the application closes and reopens? There's no level above the form?
 
There is a level above the form. I was trying to have the form reopen itself.
If I try to manage it on the level above the form... I'll have to do some kind of loop.. maybe, hmmm I havent really thought about this way
@Nomenator yeah, I still dont know thats its really possible to track
 
I'm donating like half of my clothes tonight. So excited. I'll have closet room again
I only have two pairs of jeans that still fit me and don't have torn out crotches, lol
 
8:29 PM
So the code would be something like this:
        private void ShowFormCreateObject()
        {
            ObjectForm createObject = new ObjectForm();
            if (createObject.ShowDialog() == DialogResult.OK)
            {
                createObject.Visible = false;

                FormCreateObject createNextObject = new FormCreateObject(createObject);
                createObject.ShowDialog();

                .....
            }
        }
 
@Michael ctrl+k to format your code :)
 
So… you pass the reference to the object into a variable on the level above the form, store it in a collection. When they finish, you display the collection to them, when they close the collection, you clear it.
 
that's better
 
That thing you posted, will keep all the previous forms in memory.
Memory leak.
 
what do you mean?
Eventually they close. when the user clocses the final dialoh, they waterfall close
 
8:35 PM
You hide the original form (createObject.Visible = false;). It is still loaded, just not visible. Then you open next form. Do the same. Do the same. Until your uses closes the dialog, you keep them loaded.
When you create your object, you write it down somewhere, no?
 
yeah there is no way around that, you can close a dialog while Displaying a new Dialog from the current one
yes I do
 
So… Why do you need to keep the form? You already got everything you need from it.
 
http://referencesource.microsoft.com/#System.ServiceModel/System/ServiceModel/Channels/Message.cs,257

Spent 4 hours trying to figure out why my WCF services were getting XML serialized through a Datacontract serializer. Should've checked there first :(
 
@Nomenator because You arn't allowed to call this.Close() and then show another Dialog().
.Net wont close the dialog.
 
@RyanTernier as opposed to?
 
8:40 PM
Can’t you reuse the form? Write down what you need, clear, start over?
 
Wanting to use XMLSerializer
 
@TravisJ: Brevity
 
Thats never been standard or even supported, has it?
 
It's always been supported
 
@Nomenator sorta. It's hard for me to explain the issue. Its fine, i'm tired of thinking about it
 
8:43 PM
When generating WCF Proxies you can tell wsdl.exe to use XML Serialization instead of DataContractSerialization as a parameter. Or you can mark up your class /methods with:

[XmlSerializerFormat(SupportFaults = true)]
The problem is, by default creating a Message uses DataContract. Even Message allows for SOAP, however MS uses the new datacontract serializer for everything.
To bypass that you just need to pass in your own XML reader/serializer
so instead of:
var request = System.ServiceModel.Channels.Message.CreateMessage(MessageVersion.Soap11, SoapAction, MyObjectToSend);
XmlSerializer xs = new XmlSerializer(MyObjectToSend.GetType());
            using (StringWriter sw = new StringWriter())
            {
                xs.Serialize(sw, message);
                using (var reader = XmlReader.Create(new System.IO.StringReader(sw.ToString())))
                {
                    var request = System.ServiceModel.Channels.Message.CreateMessage(MessageVersion.Soap11, SoapAction, reader);
                    MCCI_IN000002 response = channel.HCIM_IN_PersonRevised(request).MCCI_IN000002;
bit more work :( but it works like a charm.
 
who knows bash? What does "| bash -" do?
 
bam bam? All I can think of is BatMan comics/old school TV when i hear bash :P
 
| puts commands in pipeline, so at the beginning should be equivalent to whitespace.
Bash calls up bash, but there’s not an argument "-".
I think this would just re-open bash as it is now.
Maybe a handy way to clear the screen?
 
should call bash to execute each line on stdin
"-" without argument seems to do nothing
 
curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_5.x | sudo -E bash -
Full command, for installing nodejs on unbuntu
 
8:54 PM
@CharlieBrown that's creepy
 
Ubuntu is evil. It makes people fail college.
 
it works, im just trying to figure out what the heck it does
 
@CharlieBrown navigate to the site: deb.nodesource.com/setup_5.x
it's just a bash script
 
i know that part, its the syntax of the second half that I dont understand
 
sudo bash - means "run bash and accept input from stdin"
 
user47589
8:56 PM
-E means to preserve existing environment variables
 
thanks
 
-E just tells it to keep all of your environment variables around (assuming you're allowed to in sudoers)
 
She seriously couldn't find a single guy who was willing to help her get Windows on that laptop?
 
@Sippy ... presumably all of the guys capable of helping her get Windows on her laptop would be single....
 
Man
I have literally had sex from doing exactly that before hahaha
 
8:58 PM
finding hidden porn selfies on the girl's laptop does not count as 'having sex'
 
user47589
lol
 
user47589
burn
 
send her a snapchat
 
I fixed some chick's laptop at uni
Had her dissertation on it
She was very grateful.
bought me dinner and everything
 
TIL that I get a free LINQPad and free R# license :)
 

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