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00:00
sure, that's a possibility too
that's what I do
(´・ω・`)ノシ
00:19
Is the wiring job in your guys' buildings pure insanity?
user47589
not pure, no.
Just mostly?
I am going to have to drill a hole in a wall, and run a 200 ft cat5e through it, then along the inside of drop ceiling, then over a real firewall, just to plug into the central hive area they mashed into a small closet in this building here.
user47589
that's insanity.
user47589
lol
00:26
I was inspired :)
hello
does anyone use jconfirm ?
it doesn't work with asp button but works good with html button ,i spent 3 H on it :(
user47589
i've never heard of jconfirm
user47589
you can use that with an asp button by getting the clientid of the button control
i want to display confirm box yes , no
if yes => post pack
if no =>return false

it works with return confirm('Are your sure') ;

the problem is that i don't like the UI of confirm box that's why i try to use jQuery.alerts.js
user47589
you're trying to use both libraries at the same time?
00:35
the normal confirm is not a library
So, uh, you spent 3 hours on a cancel button?
user47589
please describe what you've tried and how it hasn't worked. be specific.
yes @Travis J :(
i am get tired
@Bassem - If you can create the scenario in a simulation online, someone can help you solve the problem. Simply explaining, even in great detail, what that scenario is will not get the problem solved. Sorry it took you so long, but it will take a very long time to solve if you use only words without a working demo.
                    <script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.2/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
                    <script src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-migrate-1.2.1.js"></script>
                    <script src="/Scripts/jquery.alerts.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
                    <link href="/Styles/jquery.alerts.css" rel="stylesheet" />

      <script type="text/javascript">
             function Confirmation()
             {
                 jConfirm('Title', 'Are you sure to deleted', function (r) {
the html button , works
the asp button not work (the confirm dialog appeared but page postpack without user choice)
user47589
00:45
shouldn't OnClientClick="return Confirmation();" be OnClientClick="Confirmation"
user47589
and remove the OnClick handler
user47589
you can't have a button postback to the server and invoke javascript at the same time.
look @Amy if i write OnClientClick="return Confirm('Are you sure')"
it will work
user47589
i dont get why you're doing this though. use your asp buttons and style them with css
user47589
then add a return statement before your jConfirm call
user47589
00:48
return jConfirm('Title', 'Are you sure to deleted', function (r) { .. });
of course i try it , not work ,
user47589
wait. OnClientClick="return Confirm('Are you sure')" ? not OnClientClick="return jConfirm('Are you sure')"
user47589
why was the j dropped?
user47589
@Bassem if you had code where it works, what is the problem? use the code that worked.
@Amy again , the confirm box style is bad , see this labs.abeautifulsite.net/archived/jquery-alerts/demo
user47589
00:53
i don't think i can help.
thanks any way :)
01:10
looks like Bassem is being his usual self
good ol tiny avatars ;)
Hey everyone.
@Amy You can, the JavaScript should execute first.
user47589
i see
You should be able to have the button execute a JavaScript dialog, then return a Boolean. Then it will either execute or not execute the server side Click Event.
I've done it before.
user47589
@KendallFrey is bassem always like that?
@Amy Yes, he can be a bit arrogant.
Anyone familiar with Unity?
user47589
01:19
the IoC container?
Yeah
If you have Unity, doing a bit of Inversion Of Control.  Would it be smart enough to do:

public interface IDataContextFactory
{
     TRepository Create<TRepository>();
}

Or would it hate the above?
If I pass the interface, to the Service Layer?
user47589
that looks like the Service Locator antipattern.
user47589
01:36
public interface IDataContextFactory<TRepository> where TRepository : Repository
{
     TRepository Create();
}
user47589
or something like that.
user47589
also, it's a data context factory, but it creates repositories
Well, the Generic Repository would expose implementations. But since I don't want to overexpose, I figured it would be better to do something like that.
That way I could abstract it.
PC is a buttload louder now, but should be cooler
01:54
@Amy Or am I doing something odd?
@KendallFrey New computer?
newish
I think I'm done building it now
now to wait for Oculus preorders to be available drums fingers
Nice, that will be pretty cool.
now that I added the fans, yes
badumtss
Was your machine over heating?
no
but I figured I should add at least one more case fan
happened to get a pretty good deal on 4
02:03
Nice, what is the RPM?
fuck if I know lol
lemme check
1200
45CFM
Not bad.
02:22
Guys, if I have an API and when I log in, the server creates a unique ID and saves it to the current user's database. Then, when the user wants to get something from the API, it also has to send that unique ID for that session. Is that safe enough?
(Over HTTPS)
@ErwinOkken Seems pretty standard, just make sure you have enough entropy in session keys, and expire them after a sensible interval.
@KendallFrey If I use plain PHP (so no active application) do I need to use cron jobs for that?
And with enough entropy you mean just completely random is enough?
@ErwinOkken unguessable, as in not just random, but long
but, random AND long is fine? :D
@ErwinOkken not necessarily, you can just put an expiry date on the token and check it when it's accessed.
02:35
oh yes ofcourse
stupid, sry :)
Will this be safe enough for public access? (I am a student, never done this kinds of things before)
posted on December 30, 2015 by Bertrand Le Roy

We have a short post this week, as many people are on vacation, including me. Unsurprisingly, no .NET user group has events for this week, so we'll skip the section this time. As always, this weekly post couldn't exist without community contributions, and I'd like to thank all those who sent links and tips. You can participate too. Did you write a great blog post, or just read one? Do you wan

 
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user1881400
03:43
People use properties so they can add logic to them later (same as Java's getters and setters). But why use auto-implemented properties in the generic get; set; way? The main argument besides added logic, at least as far as I know, is that it's easier to extend later. I don't see how {get; set;} eases development later since adding logic requires a manual property instead (causing you to delete code). Thoughts?
user1881400
(Manual properties make sense to me. Auto properties with private modifiers are doing something, so they make sense enough.)
04:01
Well, an auto implemented property in the sense of an IoC Framework, or ORM doesn't make sense to you?
It provides flexibility, when you provide a manual implementation you're confined to a singular path to update a property. Either via a Constructor or Method directly, which in large applications can be logic that isn't needed or well defined when you could easily derive the proper implementation by sample.Id = 1 vs having to build a new object or call a method within the object.
@juanvan You there?
user1881400
@Greg So I take it that you're saying that auto is better than manual because it's more flexible, and that it's more flexible because manual logic is verbose or vague? I'm not sure what a constructor does to mimic a property, and your last sentence is confusing me. Could you elaborate on how manual logic is more verbose/vague please?
what
get; set; is easier because you don't have to manually declare a private variable behind the scenes, but it still gives you the option of extending the getting/setting logic later, without having to refactor everythign that REFERENCES that property
as would be needed if you used a field instead
You have built the following:

public class Sample
{
     private int Id;
     public Sample(int id)
     {
          this.Id = id;
     }

     public int Id
     {
           get { return this.id; }
           set { this.id = value; }
     }
}

If you've already constructed that object how would you change the Id?
Or, if you use the same example but rather than Constructor injection, you utilize Method injection, you're either calling a Method constantly to change a value or constructing a new object.
@SteveG You see where I'm going with this right?
user1881400
@SteveG Oh my gosh, I forgot about that. Thanks for putting up with that question :)
@Greg Assuming the private int is called 'id' and not 'Id', it makes sense.
@JoshuaLamusga You don't understand the above?
It should be id not Id.
I just had a typo.
user1881400
04:16
Then it makes sense to me. :)
But you see what I'm saying, how would you modify the Id property after you've already declared `var sample = new Sample(1);``.
@Greg i have no idea what you're talking about
Sigh, in my brain it all makes sense.
are you talking about setters? is that method injection?
user1881400
I know precisely the dilemma you're talking about (if you're talking to me), but I'm not sure how auto-initialized properties would solve it.
04:19
Well, the above example would be Constructor injection but yes, method injection is the other approach. Both which I don't think are better than Id {get;set;}
user1881400
@Greg But {get; set;} are expanded into methods.
method injection sounds weird, call it a setter :p
@@JoshuaLamusga Because you could do:|

var sample = new Sample();
sample.Id = 1;
sample.Id = 2;
sample.Id = 3;
@SteveG haha, okay.
You aren't recreating an entire object or calling a setter method to assign a value.
@SteveG You sure it isn't called Method injection?
you could call miracle whip, "salad dressing"
but that sounds weird, nobody puts it on a salad, even though thats what it is
Perhaps, I'm off to bed. I've got a weird architecture thing to ponder on.
I'll talk to you later.
user1881400
04:22
Goodnight. What I meant by get and set being expanded into methods is that the compiler internally converts them into methods, the same way it does that with operator overloading.
lol
@Greg dont leave!
Why?
i'm bored
who will keep me entertained
I can show you the problem I'm pondering.
sure
user1881400
04:25
So effectively, get and set are method injection as well.
I've got Unity, the IoC Framework. I in essence do:
!!google method injection
public interface IDataContextFactory
{
    TRepository Create<TRepository>();
}
Now, TRepository would represent a series of different generic method implementations.
But when I go to actually do the following:
public class EFDataContextFactory : IDataContextFactory
{
    public TRepository Create<TRepository>()
    {
        return new EFDataContext();
    }
}
How can I get it to return for instance one of these three interfaces:

IDatabase, ICrud, ISearchable
I can't implicitly convert EFDataContext to TRepository.
you mean map those 3 to that one class?
or bind
bind those 3 interfaces to one class?, i guess i'm confused about what this has to do with unity
04:30
Well Unity would have my service layer so I would instantiate from the service layer:

using(var context = factory.Create())
{

}
context would represent the IDataContextFactory.
Yes, I would like to map all three of those to that class, but do it either all, maybe 1 or 2
If I had a normal instance:|

IDataContext Create()
{
     return EFDataContext();
}

Easy, but I have those other two.
lol yeah
Quite a conundrum right?
user1881400
@SteveG Ooooh, I've already been doing that in a framework I'm writing. I just thought the term was referring to getters and setters since I didn't know what method injection was. I've read the SOLID principles, but I was slow to remember it.
@SteveG Any solutions?
@JoshuaLamusga what term?
@Greg I'm not sure which problem your facing
you started with unity, then show a bunch of EF factory stuff, for creating repo's
6 mins ago, by Greg
Yes, I would like to map all three of those to that class, but do it either all, maybe 1 or 2
like, what?
you bind interfaces to concrete classes to set up DI/unity, how can you bind all of them, 1 of them, or 2 of them..... its a setup thing, you set up bindings for all of them
thats if this is even a DI question, i'm ont sure what the topic of the question even is
04:41
hi
I'm going to spoil star wars: Darth vader dies
hey @Learning
can anybody help me with this question please
7
Q: How to delegate telerik grid view common methods to be call from parent page from every child page?

LearningI am using Telerik Gridview for displaying list of records and i have more than 10 pages on which i am using this gridview with this following common events code copy pasted(with some minor changes) on all this pages: protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e) { DisplayRecords() } ...

its a bounty question
a lot of telerik questions lately, i have 0 xp with it
@Greg :)
Balated Merry Christmas to all
you too!
04:45
so arent you guys enjoying chrismast vacation instead of spending tym on stackoverflow
and messing with codes
user1881400
@SteveG I updated my last post. It was just the term "method injection". Which is why I made a naive statement under the assumption method injection == using methods to implement get/set functionality. But I know it now (as also indicated in my last post).
I know Telerik, but I'm off to bed.
user1881400
@Learning Christmas vacation? What's that? I have work.
@SteveG Well, I think it is a DI question. But I'll ponder on it.
yeaaaaah
04:47
@JoshuaLamusga:are you an I.t Geek
loves programming?
@Greg:Ok no problem sir.Do take a look when you will get time.ok.Please
user1881400
I love programming like no other, but I don't have a programming job, per se. If programmers get that sort of benefit, I'll be looking forward to it when I do get a job :)
is anyone here good at math or at lease better than me.
least*
depends, we don't know how good you are at it
Correct answer
I need help with a problem a math problem
I have a diagrap to upload to better help with it
diagram*
user1881400
If it's beyond calculus, I'm probably no help.
04:51
No its not
its basic geometry , I must be overlooking something
so, if you don't ask the question, nobody can help you
I know , I am preparing the diagram
i probably wont be of much help, but Josh said he might be able to
04:53
Okay so I want to check collision of a object with a slope
I want to do so by getting a point on a rectangle and checking if it is past a point in the slope realtive to its position
user1881400
I remember wanting to do that myself. Back when I was trying to recreate the Free Rider flash game.
the beige rectangle is the one I want to collide with the black slope of the red rectangles
Cool joshua you can help me
I know for the slope intercept its suppose to be x2-x1 / y2-y1
but what I do not know
is hoe can I offset the beige top left corner point
based on where it contacts the slope
Joshua any ideas?
user1881400
@JohnThompson You can try googling "rectangle line intersection" for a lot of different results. I have to think about this for a bit (I never solved it way back then).
user1881400
@JohnThompson Here's a result that looks promising for you.
Thanks ! Looks nice. Checking it out now
user1881400
05:04
Actually, to make sure we're clear, what do you mean by "offsetting" the top-left corner "based on where it contacts the slope"? Do you mean that you want to test if there's a collision, then calculate the point where it collides?
user1881400
The Cohen-Sutherland algorithm is another solution to this.
yea
where it collides
its going to be a border
so I want it pushed outside of the triangle
the black trapezoid is the edges of the map
is anybody here who is really good with telerik control?
Anyone have experience with creating extended splash screens for UWP? I can't seem to make it go away after performing/checking setup on launch.
I do have code that works for removing it after X seconds using an async method, but no matter what I do, it won't go away if it's synch or I try to wait for setup to finish.
05:34
Is anybody still here?
0
Q: How to compare Years in Linq for Date Fields?

Ram SinghI am using the below code to compare the Year of two Dates: public string GetResultWbyYears() { using (var context = new DbEntity()) { int yeat = DateTime.Now.Year; var holidays = (from rl in context.HolidayMasters where rl....

Please help me
05:50
Hi All
 
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06:57
07:09
Finally got it working. Bit of a hack, but it'll do.
07:56
People here have a tendency to use tool at their bluntest.
We use Solr as a document indexing engine. But when the requirement came for case insensitive searches, someone said "Oh, ok, we'll just call ToUpper on all fields before indexing and ToUpper on the query before searching".
As opposed to spending 7 minutes reading up on defining a case-insensitive schema.
And I've lost count of the HashSet<string>s and Dictionary<string,whatever>s that are always compared with ToLower() instead of using a case insensitive comparer.
@SteveG I'm going to spoil star wars: these are not the droids you're looking for.
08:23
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Do you know how to use NetSeal in c#?
Or anyone else?
@XQuantumForceX Nope, sorry. Never used it (or heard of it until now).
Is there no official developer site for it?
08:44
@XQuantumForceX:What is this NetSeal?
Havent heard of it ever
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan:Have you ever used talerik controls in asp.net?
@Learning Telerik, no, I don't think so.
09:03
@Learning Yeah I worked couple of years back on asp.net and silverlight telerik controls. What help you need on Telerik controls
is that grid completely data-driven?
Looks to me like the wrong tool for the job, unless the rows can vary. Are there always just Interest, Worth and Gross Salary rows?
if so, why use a grid? Why not just code it up as a <table>?
@Learning Yes I'm also suggesting the same way as @Squiggle
Great minds etc etc :)
Nope rows may vary depending upon what i saved in database
09:10
I think relational databases management systems are fine despite their age
@Learning Can you please elaborate little more
<telerik:GridTemplateColumn DataField="CategoryName" HeaderText="Category Name" ReadOnly="True" UniqueName="CategoryName" HeaderStyle-Width="20%">
<ItemTemplate>
<asp:Label ID="lblCategoryName" runat="server" Text='<%# Eval("CategoryName") %>' />
</ItemTemplate>
</telerik:GridTemplateColumn>
See this is how i am binding Value in grid on ItemBound event
@RahulNikate
@Learning why are you using a Grid? you're not displaying tabular data - you're displaying a form.
ah
@Learning can you give more examples of rows here? And what defines the relationship between the values?
you can't say in code that Interest must be greater than Worth if neither are guaranteed to appear in the grid
does your grid always have only interest, worth or some more records will also come
data-driven forms are "fun". You have to think very abstract.
09:19
@Squiggle:Yes i am displaying tabular data with 4 columns in which one being is Category Name in which values are Interest,Worth
@RahulNikate:you can consider Interest,Worth as of now
So why not to use simple form with tables
and use asp validators to compare
but that has been already implemented so i cant change all that code
which is on server side because that will involve doing lots of coding again
IMHO you do as much coding as you have to to get the solution right. Writing more code to work around a bad design and making it worse isn't going to help anyone.
Not that I'm saying it is a bad design. I've never used Telerik controls, I wouldn't know. But word of advice - avoiding rewriting something that is bad is a false economy
^ @TomW speaketh the truth
\o/
09:32
Hello, pals. What is the best way for creating a set of project/item templates for visual studio? I know there are multiple approaches, like using VSIX Project or creating .vstemplate + corresponding files and placing them into a .zip archive in \Documents\Visual Studio 2015\Templates... But what is the best approach for setting up a template system, which would be both easy to use and easy to manage.
I want to try to deploy something like that on my current job to let me and other developers avoid creating similar projects/classes/items over and over, and instead use the provided set of te
Whatever you find out, let me know
Good question. Not one that I have a simple answer to. I've used T4 templates for code generation, but never done full project generation.
I've been looking for a way to automate creation of skeleton solutions with a number of projects following a pattern
@Denver It really depends on the scope. If you're a team of 5 people, just copying the templates would probably be enough. If you want to create an internal product for hundreds of developers, a self-installing VSIX package would probably be better.
Either way, the challenge won't be the technical aspect of creating templates, but getting people to use them.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan oh I dunno. One rejected code review should be sufficient to teach most people to do as they're told ;)
Depends whether it's a 'thou shalt use this structure, so sayeth the coding standards'
09:39
packaging stuff up as per nuget is also an option - docs.nuget.org/create/creating-and-publishing-a-symbol-package You can package up source files as well as dlls if you want a baseline for a project
@TomW Having code reviews with the possibility of rejects is already a good step in the direction of good dev culture.
Most places I've worked in didn't have them.
Everywhere I've worked claims to do them. That work usually gets bumped
I have a WEB Api and I need to access the session created with ASP.NET mvc so that this class works correctly: pastebin.com/i4h1yPPx . I tried a code I found in stackoverflow to activate session in WEB API but it doesn't work. Someone is able to suggest me a code snippet which would work in my case?
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan even when an unreliable colleague has done something I'm not sure about, and I remind the lead dev repeatedly to review his work. Still doesn't do it.
Is anybody here working as a free lancer?
@TomW Yup. It always boils down to "We know we need to do it, but there's no time, and we need this feature in quickly".
@JohanLarsson love most of them
@Learning Used to freelance. Not through choice, though.
@Squiggle:Not doing free lance now>
?
09:55
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Thanks for input. We have about 20 people in team, tho we are somewhat separated. Using VSIX project shared in a VCS, allowing everyone to extend existing templates and create new is the way to go I think. However, I might take a look at @Squiggle 's suggestion - using nuget.
I also try to avoid it. I don't like the "chasing after clients" part of the job.
I think Nuget might be better for project generation... And .vsix for item templates.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Tchyeah, customers eh? Idiots.
What are they good for anyway
@TomW The bane of our industry, I tell ya.
@Learning Nah. I lasted 18 months and money was realllly tight. Set up a consultancy with some friends, landed a large contract and ended up far better off.
10:02
Short of money freelancing, really?
"chasing after clients" ends up eating right into your productive time
Ah.
are chasing and after redundant?
Still, most of the freelancers I know are never out of work unless they want to be
10:05
@TomW perhaps, but many freelancers I know ended up with really poorly paying projects
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@TomW Still, there's the overhead of billing (and in many cases, repeatedly requesting payment) and such.
1080p? HAHA
I bought me a 4k monitor for christmas
@StevenLiekens it's on my list
@Sippy did you just make it landscape?
10:06
@Squiggle Yup.
it was meant to be portrait!
Hipster.
I'm fine with the old 24" 1920x1080 monitor I've had for the past 5 years. Doesn't show any signs of wear.
When it dies, I might get a 27". Or might stick to 24". Not sure.
make sure it's proper 4k (3840x2160) and not something in between
I'm still hungover from monday night
10:07
I'll need a new GPU too
I've had horrible scaling issues with the in-between resolutions
but not on 3840x2160
Are you lot back at work?
@Sippy nope
@Sippy yep!
had leave to spend, so I haven't been to work since the 18th and I won't be back til the 4th
10:08
Something like this? Most of my monitors in recent years, at home or at work, have been Dells and they've been great. www1.la.dell.com/bz/en/corp/peripherals/dell-p2715q-monitor/…
AND the client's office is shut then, so I'll probably WFH
@Squiggle rip
I'm unemployed! wooooo
@Sippy eh. It means I get paid.
"Kappa"
Good usage.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I would gladly get that one
10:09
tyvm
Dell y u no price
Hmm £150-200 cheaper than the asus one that Jeff recommended earlier in the year
doesn't asus make mostly gaming monitors?
I think it was an asus
That's the one
10:17
well I'm typing this on an asus panel and I can honestly say stackoverflow has never looked crisper
$500 is still way more than I'm going to spend on a monitor any time soon.
Yeah, they are pricey
But this one is on its way out and something budget to tide me over is just going to be unsatisfying
your monitor is probably one of the longest living parts so I'm not sure why you wouldn't invest in a good monitor
For some reason Dell has the title on their product page as an image. Odd.
do you get a new monitor every time you get a new computer?
10:23
I think this is only the second one I've ever owned
Last one was a CRT for chrissakes
exactly my point
do your eyes a favor
they deserve better
Still need a new GPU. I don't even play games anymore
I don't have that much spare brain
10:40
Hi all
I have the bar code scanner device
yay barcode scanners
when I set focus to some textbox and press scan button it will set the barcode in my focused textbox
yep
they're just like keyboards
But I don't want to use focus here
can I some how get the barcode from device
like using some dll and subscribe to recieve event
it's a keyboard
10:43
@Squiggle yup
should design for manual input anyway
first I need find this device and then sibscribe for recive data
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/create-simple-hidden-console-keylogger-c-sharp-0132757/
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6465526/capture-any-kind-of-keystrokes-aka-keylogger-preferably-c-sharp-net-but-any
because some time if borcode is specific I want to set data to different place
You need some sort of keylogger
there's Windows APIs but I'm not sure if they're reelvant for Win10
10:45
in Windows you can intercept the message loop and monitor for keypress events. I don't remember exactly how to do that
let me check links
when I subscribe to keypress it will fire 8 times
for one time scan
doesn't each barcode end in an enter as well?
IIRC
reading this link will be helpful: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
@Squiggle Yes it will end with enter
@Jamaxack you can also configure scanner, add postfix/or not
11:21
In an ASP.NET MVC project, is it good to assume that behind every action there is an HTTP request? I'm asking this because I have a Telerik component which is configured to use a class of the project as datasource, and since the class is used directly there is no HTTP request behind and the access to login session fails.
urgh I hate Telerik controls
@Squiggle however what do you think of this? "In an ASP.NET MVC project, is it good to assume that behind every action there is an HTTP request?"
every HTTP call? sure
I don't know how Telerik controls work though. There's so many different flavors.
brb. Sandwich.
11:45
@ErroreFatale, I'm not sure why it is good to assume that, but it's not bad to. I would hope that if you're the author of the project you know exactly when a HTTP Request was being made.
Hey Maarten.
havent been in here for ages
@Moo-Juice I don't know of what you are speaking about. What I'm saying is that normally an action in ASP.NET MVC starts from a controller and a controller is called through an HTTP request. However the Telerik report viewer uses an ObjectDataSource to retrieve data: telerik.com/help/reporting/objectdatasource-wizard.html
So it doesn't retrive data though an http request, but by directly calling a function in the code
If you're wondering if a HTTP Request is being called, Chrome has a Network console that'll show you exactly what's being done in the background. I avoid Telerik like the plague - so can't really help you there - but they're going to have to get the data for their viewer from somewhere.
It's not going to magically be there is it?

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