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18:16
Is there a difference between grilling vs oven cook sausages?
@LewsTherin Grill tends to be a lot quicker
Trickier to judge whether they're done though. Oven you can just leave them for ages
Ah great. Thanks!
Not my borough, but fairly close by.
To be fair, it's the Queen's neighbourhood. They don't tend to have the same problems as other people.
The BBC page isn't rendering :(
cos u foreign innit
18:26
Lulz
Stopped load and refreshed did the job
Free trees huh
Yeah, sure getting a good deal for their council tax there...
Broken system, that. Funding for the local council is based on the value of your home, so richer areas pay more per capita. Because obviously the richer you are the more bins you need emptying and street lights repairing. Seems fair.
Lol
It doesn't pay to be rich huh
How much do game devs earn in London btw? The avg salary?
Someone told me 17k.. couldn't believe it
Game dev is apparently not that lucrative. I don't think anyone would work in a technical occupation in London for 17k though
That basically wouldn't pay your rent
How can I enumerate using letters? Ex: A-first B-second... I want to get the next letter automatically, can anyone help?
@LewsTherin it's not an area I know much about. Also, I don't know about you but I immediately start thinking about AAA titles and most of it is almost certainly actually crappy tower defence clones on iOS
I expect engine designers need some 1337 C++ and that'll be a different business altogether
18:36
Yeah same thinking
@TomW From the sound of it it did sound like a start up company
anyone?
Notch just bought the most expensive house in Beverly Hills, outbidding Jay-Z and Beyonce. Game dev has its ups and downs.
@user3047048 you could try casting the integers N to N+26 to char, where N is the ascii character code of 'A'
not remembering what that is, myself.
65, i think
I won't want to be a games dev with type of pay
...what?
18:41
@user3047048 What are you asking? Do you want to map A to 1, B to 2?
@TomW 17k for a lot of mind fuck...
No, me either. If someone really advertised that, they're taking the piss
@LewsTherin I want to make a list which goes: A-
B-
...
I think I have a quick idea:
but I'll be giving the index like 1,2,3...
@user3047048 I've given you a solution
18:43
Oh sorry
didnt see
@user3047048 - Make an array of letters.
Enumerable.Range(65,26).Select(x=>(char)x).ToList()
Think that should work with a bit of tweaking
Thank you all
@LewsTherin Cast<char>() should be fine I think :P
Ah yeah
18:45
there any good lib for comparing XML file?
@juanvan the only on I was able to find was XmlDiffPatch and it's pretty poor.
ya that is Very poor
You can snatch the DLL out of it and reference that though, it does work
I need to compare xml files and if they match on 90% combine then to 1
but the output is not intuitive
What's your definition of 'match'?
18:48
if 25 or more <section> nodes match - they have hash codes that go with them so that should make it easier (a little)
I repeat the question
match meanig that Node and all the nodes in that section match
each Page has a hashKey="f150a546-72d4-40a0-b580-48b3e60de5bc"
You might be stuck with writing your own
ya - trying to save space
each one of these items has a lot of image overhead - and they only change on 15 or so items in 5 or 6 nodes
so if I could get them to point to the same image - save hard drive space
@TravisJ Did you see my comments above, about that transfer for the Popup?
18:56
nope, whats up
@juanvan how big are those files in total?
So all my code works fine, until you hit this:
[HttpGet]
public ActionResult Add()
{
    return View();
}
@rene each one is like 500kb
When you hit that from:
$('#btnAddNewCard').click(function () {
    LaunchPopup($('.Popup'), "@(Url.Content("~/Popup/Add"))");
});
@juanvan and how many of them?
18:57
It loads a new page, it doesn't add it to the div popup.
the total when I get done extracting is around 22~35gb
5k
that is images and xml files
I have a file in MyProject/Foo/MyFile.txt, and I want it to "copy to output directory" to bin/MyFile.txt, not bin/Foo/MyFile.txt. Is there a way to do this without moving it to the root project folder?
Quick question guys
@Greg - Nothing wrong so far, what does the function look like ??
Did you look at the console for errors?
Did you set a breakpoint in the actionresult to make sure it was being hit?
@juanvan ouch. I was going to suggest to put them in a zip archive but that is not going to fly then. Assuming the zip algorithm would detect the same bytestreams over and over again...
18:59
@KendallFrey post build event command
@NETscape That does what? copies it?
no, thank you
We have template engines for HTML. We have CSS abstraction preprocessors. We have JavaScript frameworks. But is there something that ever combined all these three into one fab idea
copies and/or moves it
@MoonOwlPrince - Angular?
@MoonOwlPrince T4 is a general-purpose templating/code generation tool
19:01
Code generation tool in what sense
You write code to make code.
As in you use it to automatically generate code
@TravisJ But it navigates to another page rather then loading within the same page.
@KendallFrey good luck then lolz
19:01
function LaunchPopup(element, uri) {
    var request = new XMLHttpRequest();
    request.onreadystatechange = function () {
        if (request.readyState != 4 || request.status !== 200) {
            return;
        }
    }

    request.open('GET', uri);
    request.send();
}
Has anyone ever used Angular for their MVC projects?
@rene ya they are in zips now - but there is a lot of garbage in the files too - prices, update pdf references.
@Greg - But that doesn't really do anything. And you are using jquery now rite? Lets refactor that function a little
@TravisJ I am using jQuery.
But, I'm assuming the error is when it hits the return View. It does return the View, but then forces the new Controller URL rather then put it into current page.
function LaunchPopup(element, uri) {
 $.ajax({
  url: uri,
  type: 'GET',
  success: function (result) {
   element.html(result);
  }
 });
}
@Greg - What type of element is being clicked?
@Greg - Also, your previous version didn't actually place any content in element.
LaunchPopup.indexOf("element") == -1
19:06
@TravisJ An input type="button"
@Greg - Yeah, that is fine. The issue was with your function.
@juanvan you might checkout xslt to see if that is useable.
@TravisJ So that should work now?
@Greg - If you use the function defined yes
@TravisJ But it doesn't show my previous view.
Like the data below it.
19:11
@Greg - No offense, but I cannot help you debug step by step. Produce a whole situation or error messages or something to help. Playing 20 questions takes a lot of time.
@rene thanks
 
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20:14
hey everyone
sup
lots of things
I got to meet @RyanTernier and his GF. My company got acquired. I got rear ended. Busy weekend
Cool, uhoh and suck
yeah. some guy younger than me driving a $50k 3.5ton compensationmobile decided he didn't like the little blue car merging in front of him
his sorostitute girlfriend was so upset, it was really funny
he rear ended me, he'll have to pay for it
my car is aluminum so it's kind of a pain
the acquisition thing is fine. it'll bring new money into the company
Does it bring new money into your wallet?
20:19
that's the question
my stock options are gone now
my boss is gone until wednesday, so I'll talk to him then
gone as in you've exercised them already?
20:32
@Pheonixblade9 - Someone hit your car today? Are you okay?
@TravisJ yesterday. I'm fine. My car will be fine, hopefully
@TomW gone as in we're acquired and my options went away
Do you get nothing for those in that case?
I wish someone would rear end me
2
@Pheonixblade9 - Did any of the windows break when they hit you?
@TravisJ no, it was at about 2mph
correct, I get nothing for my options
20:34
@KendallFrey I bet you do
Then I could maybe get my car fixed under insurance
Okay, well that is a good sign. If your windows break it usually indicates the frame bent.
@LewsTherin D:
@TravisJ no, it broke my rear drivers tail light and bent the edge of the quarterpanel
@KendallFrey lulz
20:35
Yay, deadlines and corrupted data
@Pheonixblade9 I think you mentioned something about an acquisition a little while ago; would it have been a smart move to exercise then and have something they'd have to pay you for when it went through?
Or are there rules to stop you doing that
@Pheonixblade9 That's your car?
@TomW there are not many ways I can exercise them
yeah
20:37
Looks neat. You Americans and cars :P
it's aluminum, so it's a bitch to work with
lol it's a japanese car
I googled to see whether it was a BRZ. It appears not to be
@Pheonixblade9 - Will fix easy :)
it's a WRX
@Pheonixblade9 Nissan? Subaru?
20:38
@LewsTherin Look. See. SUB...
this was the other guy:
^ that was the damage to his truck
Wish I could afford a car
first thing he said when he got out was "I'm not paying for your car"
@Pheonixblade9 Nonexistent?
@Pheonixblade9 haha
20:39
@Pheonixblade9 fuck him
like... thanks dude, yeah I'm ok
@Pheonixblade9 to which my answer would be "Then I'll see you in court"
not literally I mean
well, he did get a tiny white smudge on his fender
Hi..does any one here has any idea on Elastic Search
20:40
it was a guy younger than me driving a 3.5ton truck that probably cost $50k, on his parent's insurance. I get the feeling he doesn't understand responsibility yet
@LewsTherin surely there's a substantial market of piles of junk that would cost you very little
anyways, seems likely he'll have to pay for it 100%
pretty sure the guy hit me on purpose knowing it would cause him no damage
just gonna let my insurance company fuck him over
hey guys can i ask a quick question?
@TomW Oh yes. Perhaps 300-400 euro piece of crap. Nothing as flashy
@Phoenix You just did
guys...
any one
20:43
@TravisJ That is fair enough, when I hit the function it doesn't actually display the original page for instance.
@SoftwareNerd Don't you think someone would have answered if they did?
Dang, why are people using Linkedin as if it were Facebook or Twitter lulz
@SoftwareNerd ElasticSearch is a fine tool
I can't even find a WRX model here
:)
20:48
(:
Jaysus.. min price starts from 7.5k and no picture.
Why am I even looking at cars? I can't even drive -_-
@Pheonixblade9 - Should have taken a picture of him, his truck, and license plate, and let him drive off. Then called it in as a hit and run
@Pheonixblade9 - If he really was intent on leaving
@Greg - I don't know what you mean by that
@ton.yeung But how does git overwrite its own config file?
Do you know which command?
@LewsTherin useful to be able to. I was 24 when I started, which is pretty late. I've no love for it but it certainly is useful
@TomW Was it hard for you to learn?
@TravisJ Well, so I have page A then I have page B loading through that Ajax. When I hit the Javascript I only see Page A, no Page B. Then when I cancel Page B and fadeOut I don't see either Page A or Page B.
20:56
@Greg lulz
@Greg poof
I'm not the quickest learner because I'm quite cautious, took me 4 attempts to pass. But it wasn't difficult really, no
Was still a nervous driver for a while after
@LewsTherin I don't think you're allowed to say that anymore
@LewsTherin a bug, obviously. Don't ask questions, just download an updated git
@TomW Allowed to say what?
20:58
You called him a poof :P
@Greg - No error messages? Sounds like you may have a bad selector.
@TravisJ Yeah, no error the code appears to be working.
@TomW Haha. No way! xD Didn't know that.
use console.log to see where your logical errors are
@KendallFrey Screw you!
20:58
make sure that your selectors and variables are configured properly
@TravisJ It can call two different controllers correct?
@ton.yeung Ty!
@Greg - no the dom selectors
you should also set a breakpoint to make sure the correct controller is being hit if that is a problem as well
@TravisJ Figured it out, something dumb
@ton.yeung I was. I'm not going to try it. But I don't use git as often to know what they are on about.
21:00
@TravisJ /> instead of ></div>
I don't use self-closing tags in HTML anymore
I don't trust HTML with anything
So it works now?
@ton.yeung * now or in the past
I'm half a day ahead of you
5 hours ago, by Kendall Frey
you guys hear of the latest git bug?
@TravisJ Yeah, I appreciate your help.
@JohnKoerner do you have any idea on that
21:02
Debugging ftw :)
@KendallFrey - I code my html pages like this:
<html><head /><body /><script>loadPage()</script></html>
@TravisJ I code my HTML with regex
stackoverflow.com/questions/27610390/… please let me know if you were able to understand anything from this question
@TravisJ no, I asked him to stay for a bit. I got a picture of his drivers license, plates, and insurance info
@LewsTherin my WRX was ~26k, my first new car
hooray, I got another notable question badge
@Phoenix - You could do that with reflection and meta tags
could you please post an answer with some more explanation? i really suck at reflection and dynamic stuff
21:11
@Pheonixblade9 - Did I ping you with the previous truncated version?
@TravisJ maybe? I only read what is there now
@Pheonixblade9 - Is your name highlighted in green there?
@Phoenix - Don't have the time to write that up at the moment. It would be rather involved.
@Phoenix - Start with some MSDN articles :)
Ok. Thanks for the pointer anyway :)
21:13
@TravisJ No, Phoenix != Pheonix
@KendallFrey - Nice catch
hahaha, yeah mine is misspelled on purpose so I can get the same username everywhere I want
Curse you, I am now ogling cars
(again)
@TomW my car is quite sexy
I walk to work and drive to go to the supermarket and to visit my parents. A flashy car would be the most pointless purchase I can think of. But they're shiny.
21:26
it wasn't really expensive either...
Mercedes currently somewhere near the top of my wishlist. One or other of the C-class variants, probably
Not that I can afford any such thing, but there's the motivation for going contracting
heh
if I was gonna get a Merc I'd get an SLK230
Nowhere close to being able to afford one, just in case anyone suspects me of humblebragging
@TomW I don't love how the C class variants drive, personally
C class kind of drives like an expensive boat that has a big ass engine, lol
21:31
Interesting. Obviously the CLS in particular is massive, so if it's built like a barge it probably handles like one
it's built kind of like an american muscle car, but with slightly smarter suspension
I have been looking at the 2 door S4s
@ReedCopsey I finally met @RyanTernier this weekend. So that's three of you that I've met! I'll catch you next time @ton.yeung :)
@Pheonixblade9 Nice :)
@Pheonixblade9 well, unless you get the AMG version, but then it's like driving on rocks
We should have C# room hangouts
21:33
no middle ground
like we do with JS guys
yeah, I like my WRX. Super sticky in the corners, but built to handle a few bumps without giving you a slipped disk
Oh yes since this is a wishlist, obviously I'm talking about the AMG version :)
@TomW Have you driven it? 30 minute drive and you'll feel like you've been tortured
fun, though, when you're in the mood to go nuts ;)
Hell no. I think I'd be laughed out of the showroom
21:35
Have any of you guys used Flyouts in XAML?
@KendallFrey I might actually like the old Z06 better
although the Z07 is much faster...
Actually, I think the main thing I like about the Corvette is the round taillights
those are cool
as long as we're doing a wishlist...
Made in Britain, so they fall apart in a strong breeze
om nom nom
...no?
COME ON
21:41
@TomW sting rays are okay, I guess
@TomW go look up the stats on the Cerbera speed 12 ;)
the livery on that one is pretty fun
The TVR Cerbera Speed 12, originally known as the Project 7/12, was a high performance concept car designed by TVR in 1997. Based in part on then-current TVR hardware, the vehicle was intended to be both the world's highest performance road car and the basis for a GT1 class endurance racer. However, problems during its development, changing GT1 class regulations and the eventual decision that it was simply incapable of being used as a road car ended the idea, forcing TVR executives to abandon its development. The vehicle's engine, displacing 7.7 litres and having twelve cylinders, was reportedly...
but it's the vintage factor I like
> The vehicle's engine, displacing 7.7 litres and having twelve cylinders, was reportedly capable of producing nearly one thousand horsepower, although an exact measurement was never made.
Oh yes, I know TVRs are the shit for specification. But they're shoddy, particularly with trim
21:43
they're also ... interesting .. in terms of usability
14.9in brake discs, lmao
hope there are some good contracts after the holidays
> The dyno was rated at 1,000 bhp (750 kW) but the test resulted in its input shaft being broken.
that's about as good as the Model S breaking the chassis stress-testing machine
In an interview then-owner Peter Wheeler, said that TVR had tried to record the car's power on an engine dyno. The dyno was rated at 1,000 bhp (750 kW) but the test resulted in its input shaft being broken.
lol yeah
Wheeler, no newcomer to high performance cars and an experienced racer in the TVR Tuscan Challenge, drove one of the finished prototypes home and concluded that the car was unusable on the road, in his opinion simply too powerful.
lol
I'd rather have:
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a mid-engined plug-in hybrid supercar designed by Porsche. The Spyder is powered by a 4.6 liter V8 engine, developing 608 horsepower (453 kW), with two electric motors delivering an additional 279 horsepower (208 kW) for a combined output of 887 horsepower (661 kW). The 918 Spyder's 6.8 kWh lithium-ion battery pack delivers an all-electric range of 12 mi (19 km) under EPA's five-cycle tests. The car has a top speed of around 340 km/h (210 mph). The 918 Spyder is a limited edition supercar, and Porsche plans to manufacture 918 units as a 2014 model year. Production began...
21:46
@ReedCopsey pssh, too futuristic. :P
you crazy kids and your KERS
why? It's old now :p
@Pheonixblade9 KERS is so old fashioned. ERS is the new hip
Yes, I am an F1 fan
zoom zoom
ZOOM ZOOM
sheldon on coffee
coffee is good
being tired the next morning isn't so much
I just had a brilliant idea
peespoons with coffee
peespoons?
21:50
you never played peespoons?
!!google peespoons
how about spoons?
no
lock(obj) in every method that has sql data access. this code should punch itself
21:50
:(
@CharlieBrown lmao
Spoons, also known as Pig or Tongue, is a fast-paced game of matching and occasional bluffing, in the Crazy Eights group of card games, closely related to Craits. It is played with an ordinary pack of playing cards and several ordinary kitchen spoons or other objects. Spoons is played in multiple rounds, and each player's objective is to grab a spoon. No spoon may be grabbed until one player has collected a four of a kind, but once the first player to get a four of a kind has grabbed a spoon, all players may immediately reach out to attempt to grab a spoon. As in the game musical chairs, there...
her jeans have holes in them
Read those rules, then substitute a drink for a letter. Loser of the round drinks, last person to pee wins.
There is no spoon.
21:52
It's intense
@KendallFrey lol i like this game!
is it last person to pee, or last person to go to the bathroom, i'd totally piss myself to win a drinking contest
last person to pee
rookies
I would want something along these lines, s5, 911, 335
nice
21:55
@Steve Last time I played, I had to visit the little boys' room 4 times in about 6 hours after the game
lol
I had thought of a viper, but apparently the pedals are at an angle and cause knee problems
i'm happy with my grandma-go-getter taurus
you go get grandmas?
fuzball is a fun drinking game. Every time you get scored on, drink. Own goal? drink twice
21:56
foosball?
@KendallFrey if i did?
@Steve I'm coming too
whats that card came with the color cards, i don't remember what its called
the name is escaping me
family game
21:57
@KendallFrey - apparently that is how you spell it
YES
turning uno into a drinking game rocks, did that a lot in the marines
there was a special version of uno
I haven't played in years
I mostly just play poker on my phone
you make any $?
21:58
not real
it's virtual money, but I make a killing playing against the AI
ah
playing the AI hurts my skill though
turning super smash bros into super smashed bros is fun :) every time you lose a life, drink
they suck, and can't hide anything
@TravisJ Do that with KSP. Every Kerbal killed is a drink

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