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06:54
@Frank2 switching? or learning an extra toolset?
07:12
morning all
coffee time!
@Jaap Isn't that all day long?
@Frank2 or DF.a.values :D
@Sotos yes :-)
07:42
Hello
too many franks :D
one of them now pythonspamming
@Jaap for my job, have to learn/use, but will still use R for most everything, re too many :) yup
@Frank have you looked at pydatatable yet?
yeah, i landed on the DF.a.values, better, though i found i also needed to apply np.array() and suspect the coercion is costly (don't actually know yet)
@Jaap yeah, i was about to start using it today, but the cloud computing platform (google) doesn't include it, so i'm not sure it will be an option
@Frank My recommendation is to try and do as many things as possible using numpy. It's probably the only library there (though I 've not searched for another) that vectorizes most of the functions
@Sotos thanks, good to know and nice for readability to continue vectorizing like i'm used to in r. i like numpy's feature set so far (eg, looked for findInterval and found searchsorted), it looks like i may eventually be constrained to tensorflow, but they're copying over numpy functions to it, which is good
07:57
@Frank There is also pytorch now which is the next big thing in python. I did not have the chance to study it yet but they have full training sessions for it (was a huge hit last year at O'Reilly's big data event) so It should be something worth seeing
08:12
@Sotos hm, that also looks interesting, i have a lot to learn about ML generally before i can appreciate pros and cons, i guess
not coffee time here (moved three hours further from GMT tz this summer, alas), cy'all good night/morn
@Frank C ya! Have a good one
@Jaap We have many at my work! Especially the account managers
:D
@Jaap No idea what that edi is
me neither
@Jaap too broad, tool?
08:52
good option too
agreed
09:20
@Sotos PyTorch, really? I thought keras, which is also embeded in TF now, is the rage?
09:31
@RomanLuštrik yup. That was the go to tool and to devote at least 1 (out of total of 5) big tutorial for it at the summit then it should be something to look at. As I said, I have not dived into it yet so I can not tell why...
The upside of keras is that it's also being used in R's port.
The interface is a bit wobbly at the moment which is why I used Python's implementation, but with some motivation, it can grow into a mature product.
09:53
@RomanLuštrik heh...same reason why I use python with spark instead of R
 
5 hours later…
14:23
Late hello :-)
 
5 hours later…
19:14
Probably because it is an old post, but can anyone explain why the link is missing to dupe target, note that quoted duplicate text is edited into the post. Blue box has no links. stackoverflow.com/q/6263400/680068
20:11
@zx8754 bug in the "new post notices" rollout, i guess, leaving the "already has answers here" blank and the original dupe target missing (Function that converts a vector of numbers to a vector of standard units)... maybe overwritten by aggressive community bot way back when (when it wasn't possible to have multiple dupe targets)?
Omg it's 2019 but we're pretending this hasn't already been answered a million times stackoverflow.com/q/58941658/5325862
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21:03
@camille Anything for just a few more Internet points.
It's probably against the SO rules if we comment on those unnecessary dupe-answers with eyeroll emojis, huh?
 
1 hour later…
22:12
@camille - when the r tag has 315K questions, I think we've reached saturation on all but the most fringe queries. 200K of them must just be variants of inner join/left join, reshape long-wide, and aggregate. Someone needs to just package up - stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/r-faq?tab=Votes - as a book and we can all stop coming here.
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@thelatemail Sad but true

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