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12:22 AM
@DirtySockSniffer He definitely did (twice, I think) because his answer kept getting downvoted because it had like 10 lines of repetitive hardcoded regex. I'm still a few shy of 10k so I can't see for sure, but I think it was this one. The odd bit is the question sounds like it's about nurka ("mountain of rep"), but I've never seen him do that. Zheyuan did a couple days ago, though.
 
12:43 AM
@StevenBeaupré I think shiny::tags is taken from htmltools$tags, which I've used successfully in flexdashboard before. You could probably copy the shiny call without actually running shiny _if_—I'm not certain—inline styling works. With htmltools, it would look like htmltools::tags$style(type = 'text/css', '#pivot{ overflow-x: scroll; }').
If inline styling doesn't work, you can use the selectors in an external CSS file and load it like this.
 
@alistaire Yeah I ended up using an external css with .rpivotTable{ overflow-x: scroll; }
 
 
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2:19 AM
lulz, hadley is trying to make tribble a thing
(a rename of tibble::frame_data)
 
 
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3:49 AM
@alistaire Hadley is trying to do a terrible thing - you mean
 
the trouble with tibbles
 
 
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6:31 AM
Good morning ! :-)
 
7:02 AM
mornin
 
7:32 AM
hey @Paran0a, what's up ?
is that Richard who became a puppet ?
 
Howdy
@Cath Good guess
 
@alistaire Yep, that's the one.
 
Does someone know someone doing research on experience sharing and its effect on both teacher and learner ?
(Speaking french and able/willing to come to Nantes)
@Cath you're my best bet here :p
 
@alistaire - I left a comment. We'll see how it plays out.
@Cath I'm the puppet master
 
7:55 AM
@DirtySockSniffer though in the chat you're just lonely and not so clean (you appear as Dirty Sock)
hey Tens, hey Richard :-)
 
Let's just say this has not been my best choice of screen names.
 
@alistaire There's tibble::tribble and possibly nibble. They're having a lot of fun with it
Hi @Cath
 
Hi @Cath
 
@DirtySockSniffer is the post talking about nurka ? did he add a new annoying feature in his behaviour ? Nice comment/link btw :-D
Hi Pierre :-)
 
No, nurka doesn't do that as far as I know.
 
8:00 AM
so I'm wondering who the post is about, except if hackr posted about himself of course...
 
I think he might have been making it seem like he saw someone do it when in reality it was him checking his own behavior.
 
rofl
 
I mean, I haven't seen anyone do it except him. But that's just me.
And I am on here a lot
 
@Hack-R I am not sure about the rules of reposting again. But, since you made a post on dodging, I thought about commenting. I have nothing against you and believe me, I have stopped that practice after your post. — akrun 15 hours ago
 
Hiya all
 
8:06 AM
so it was him. The "mountain of rep" description seems somewhat more appropriate...
hi Roland, hi Sotos
 
That's strange. He must do it hours later then or something. I have never seen it
Then Hack-R is just a hypocrite. Haha
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Good morning
 
hi Tokhir :-)
 
Quick summary, hadley did a trrrible thing, hackR is a dodger, nurka stopped doing smth, and @Cath is back :)
 
8:18 AM
And Jaap is still MIA
 
@DirtySockSniffer ah those abbreviations, making me Google, what is MIA? missing in action? man in missing, rapper?
 
missing in action
 
yes, that would have been my next question, where is Jaap ? (last seen 2 hours ago though)
 
Please tell me this isn't serious: Monster heads on Hungary's border to scare off refugees? http://bit.ly/2bCkICj https://t.co/WtSrTkIqwq
 
o_O
 
8:23 AM
Maybe Dirty Sock Sniffer should post a list of abbreviations for future references :P
 
I have a 12 year old daughter so the list is amazingly long
 
Learned a new word - burkini...
 
@zx8754 learned that too this summer...
 
nurkini?
 
@Cath are you a part time beach police? :D
 
8:34 AM
nurka's bathing suit?
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@zx8754 I don't get the whole crazyness about it, next they'll ban the diving swimsuits ? Why on earth can't they go swimming with whatever they wish on their skin ?
 
@zx8754 ah-ah I wish (though not against burkini "wearer" more against people coming on the beach with their dogs, despite the big "no dog" sign, letting them poo in between the beach towels...)
@Tensibai totally agree, I find it looks a bit like the swimming suits that were banned from competitions because they improved too much the swimmers performances...
 
@Cath Well in case of competitions I can understand the reason, here I don't, we have beaches where peoples can be naked, why prohibiting someone to come to the beach fully clothed ?
@Cath asking agani just in case, a colleague is searching for (quoting in french here): "un chercheur qui puisse nous parler du bénéfice du partage d'expérience sur le cerveau de celui qui partage comme de celui qui écoute. "
Do you know someone ?
 
@Cath at least between the beach towels, could be worse...
 
@Tensibai I do too understand the competition ban, but I found "funny" that something that looks like a very technical swimming suit makes such a fuss when it's worn by "regular" (as in "not professional swimmers") women
 
8:43 AM
@Cath oh, ok, indeed
 
@Tensibai still trying to understand what it means ;-p (a priori non, je vois pas du tout qui pourrait avoir ces compétences là dans mon entourage, désolée, mais je vais essayer de faire passer le message autour de moi)
 
@Cath Merci ;)
 
9:11 AM
hello @all
does anyone of you have experience with the "malformed factor" error in data.table's melt.data.table function? I couldn't locate the problem so far
The code I'm using is melt(DT, id.vars = c("col1", "col2"), na.rm = TRUE, variable.factor = FALSE). The dimension of DT is [1] 1128 800 and unforutunately I cannot easily provide reproducible data
 
@docendodiscimus Can you paste the error message? I would check the source code?
 
@zx8754, all I get is Error in melt.data.table(DT, id.vars = c("col1", "col2"), : malformed factor
I have checked and there are no factor columns in DT
 
9:40 AM
@docendodiscimus Maybe check your str(DT) and see if you have some strange attributes. I have a feeling it is R related rather data.table. I can repro this using something like:
x <- factor("a") + factor("b", ordered = TRUE)
x
# Error in as.character.factor(x) : malformed factor
Maybe you or someone else performed some illegal operations on the data in some point in time
Hi @Cath btw, good to see you
Also, does it work without variable.factor = FALSE ?
 
9:55 AM
@DavidArenburg hi @David :-) thanks, good to see you too
 
10:20 AM
@DavidArenburg, you may be right that it's r related and not data.table. I tried it without variable.factor = FALSE and that makes R crash immediately. I don't see any unusual attributes in the str though. Will have to further investigate
 
 
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1:02 PM
Where the heck did I stumble... stackoverflow.com/questions/39123795/…
 
1:17 PM
lol
OK, I don't use dplyr. Good luck. — Roland 2 mins ago
 
lol... mic drop, peace symbol
:)
 
Why not the down voter want to understand that I need suggestions and donw votes will not help me? I am trying all I know and stuck with this question whole day. I feel like crying. — Polar Bear 42 mins ago
@Sotos are you making people cry?
 
Well ... he has been naughty
Oh that's convenient...answer it, get the rep and then duoe it
 
2:04 PM
@PierreLafortune still I get exactly the same values as the screen capture, except for the timestamp of course
 
@Cath It might be a something simple like an object name masking another
 
@PierreLafortune yes, I agree the OP should close everything and try again on a fresh session
I'm voting to close as not reproducible. The OP seems so much into his stress that he doesn't really hear what we're telling him...
 
I even tried it in both 3.3.1 and 3.2.5 and again results are the same
 
@Cath How was your unrealistically-long vacation?
 
@alistaire Have you experienced issues with this github.com/rstudio/flexdashboard/issues/68
 
I think the last time we spoke it was somewhere around when Bell invented the phone
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@PetterFriberg I hope everything is alright with you btw. Interestingly, just yesterday you invited me to visit Italy...
 
@Cath :) welcome back !
 
3:10 PM
hey, long time no chat
 
Hi @jeremycg
 
I have a person I've been tutoring in R/stats (pysch phd student) I dont have time for anymore, anyone here want to pick her up?
hi pierre, hows things?
I have been charging $60 canadian an hour if that entices anyone
 
@DavidArenburg Yeah : ) thanks, all is ok I'm far from the epi center but could feel the big shake
 
@jeremycg What are the topics/level/frequency?
@PetterFriberg I'm glad everything fine with you. Too bad you guys had so many casualties though
 
3:28 PM
complete beginner in R (has had 3-5 lessons from me), low stats knowledge, mostly wants to know how to analyse experimental data rather than how R works. Needs to learn linear and logistic regression, is happy with chi squared. Frequency has been once every 2 months or so, but as per needed (mostly to analyse data for a meeting/presentation).
 
@jeremycg you don't have 1 hour in two month to spare for 60$? :)
you are a busy man
 
It's under my hourly rate now :)
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and, I'm a python guy these days
 
@jeremycg ay ay ay
Though I'm using Python a lot too these days, I don't like it at all so far
 
is python better or worse than dplyr?
 
don't get me started
 
3:35 PM
@Cath and @Sotos I don't think OP is going crazy on that question. There is something weird going on.
 
@StevenBeaupré When I first tried sunburstR it had a box model sizing issue where the internal size caused a bounding box within the widget in Firefox. I pinged timelyportfolio on twitter and he fixed it pretty quickly. Apparently he's done a lot more work on sizing by his comment on github. Bottom line, I don't think there's a lot an end-user can do for these kinds of issues aside from report the issues.
 
ok, if anyone is interested in the tutoring, ping me here.
 
@alistaire Yes for sunburstR it works fine now (he prioritized it) - My concern is that I think the issue will arise in lots of widgets until they fix the issue in htmlwidgets
 
otherwise I better stop idling in chat on company internet
 
Notice how the as.numeric call shows a different value than what's displayed:
> data.new$Date[5:6]
[1] "2016-08-17 09:00:06 UTC" "2016-08-17 09:00:06 UTC"
> as.numeric(data.new$Date[5:6])
[1] 1471424406 1471424407
> duplicated(data.new$Date[5:6])
[1] FALSE FALSE
 
3:43 PM
Hi all, I want to learn python. Can anyone give me a name of any beginner's guide?
 
@StevenBeaupré Yeah. Ultimately flexdashboard is still beta, I guess. Hopefully they'll come up with a comprehensive solution soon.
 
@user2100721 i liked learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python and python-course.eu but i'm no expert on python yet, just a fellow beginner's perspective
oh, and using ipython notebook (or jupyter or whatever it's called) to take notes and try things out
 
@jeremycg I tutor other things anyway so I'm happy to do the R part, but I'm not confident enough in my stats ability to teach it at that level, so I'm probably not ideal.
 
@jeremycg tell them to hang out here instead :)
 
@Frank thanks
 
3:51 PM
@user2100721 DataCamp is pretty good, but you'll have to pay for more than the beginnings. I've done a little with the pandas cookbook which was nice, too. You can find it and a lot of other nice resources here
or codecademy for non-data python syntax
 
@alistaire thanks
 
@PierreLafortune wow... I will give it a thorough read tomorrow.
 
bad, even the answers
 
 
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5:32 PM
From help(transform) -
If some of the values are not vectors of the appropriate length, you deserve whatever you get!
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haha
 
Lol that's great
 
I wish more help docs were like this
Maybe I will update my package docs with something like If you do it wrong, it's your own damn fault!
 
5:50 PM
I'll be hosting a @QuoraSessions on Sept 20: https://www.quora.com/session/Hadley-Wickham/1. This is another good opportunity to AMA #rstats
 
Maybe ask about trrrribbleverse
AMA - ask me anything
 
AMA - Assassinate Me Already
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oh, wait that's not right
has anyone read this? I wonder how much different it is from Hadley's upcoming data science book.
this is kind of awesome though.
 
6:14 PM
@DirtySockSniffer looks like a very different sort of book. collection of papers illustrating applications, with one by hadley
@DirtySockSniffer yeah, though i'm inclined to view it negatively, too, like will/do they offer an api for such a display so other package developers can do similar things? if not, now they get a cheap differentiator vs stringi simply thanks to platform ownership
on balance, probably more awesome than not, though
 
6:58 PM
Parsimonious and accurate +1 . — Hack-R 1 min ago
His newest groupie.
 
7:09 PM
yeesh
not sure why akrun likes i1 as a name. i'd always go with cond for a condition, w for a "which"; or i if i had a brain fart
 
This one might get interesting (edit history and commentary).
@Frank I was seriously just thinking the same thing when I ran his code. I don't like v1 either. How about x?
 
yeah, not sure why the name v1 would be used either, didn't notice that
@DirtySockSniffer citing a package about an econ book, never heard of that one before
erer
wonder if it's acceptable to do what he's doing here: google key terms, copy from blog posts with "source: link"
seems to be quite verbatim aggregation work
 
@Frank I don't really know. It doesn't feel right though.
 
yeah, i keep seeing his/her posts and thinking "hey, this isn't terribly useful, but s/he put a lot of effort into it, so no downvote"... didn't realize until now how much of it is copy-pasted in
 
I'd leave a comment but I am sick of confrontations
 
7:44 PM
@Frank I am not seeing anything original there. He could have just linked these items in the comments. I am close to downvoting
 
ok, i'm not bothering to look that closely. their behavior won't change unless mods and/or meta smacks them down for their approach. downvoting will just lead them to conspiracy theories such as other prolific R posters seem to have
no real harm in downvoting, but i just don't want the drama or to waste time on it
 
Are there any advantages to as.IDate and as.ITime? They seem to ust wrap base functions.
 
7:59 PM
@DirtySockSniffer faster grouping, since they use integers
probably binary search is faster too, not sure about that, though
can't find it now, but i recall someone unaware of idate converting posix stuff to integers and seeing a big speedup in some sort of data.table operation
 
8:15 PM
@Frank - Is this good DT code? setDT(df)[, .SD[time == min(time)], by = id]
 
Anyone with image processing skills? Is this a dupe? stackoverflow.com/questions/39131840/r-getting-color-values
 
I thought df[time == min(time), .SD, by = id] would work, but no
 
@DirtySockSniffer i think it will be soon, if i understand correctly, it is the next item on this list github.com/Rdatatable/data.table/issues/735 current faster workaround is thanks to eddi:
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A: Subset by group with data.table

eddiHere's the fast data.table way: bdt[bdt[, .I[g == max(g)], by = id]$V1] This avoids constructing .SD, which is the bottleneck in your expressions. edit: Actually, the main reason the OP is slow is not just that it has .SD in it, but the fact that it uses it in a particular way - by calling [....

 
np, fwiw i tried to write this up in Docs:
(guess chat doesn't do anything magic to doc links yet)
 
8:18 PM
Oh yeah, docs is still a thing.
 
@zx8754 The answer is right, it's just an array with the 3rd dimension being the 3 color channels
 
Just got the "Backer" badge. I guess I'm back.
 
@zx8754 And I think the first dupe target you mention is indeed correct
 
Can you guys approve this edit? stackoverflow.com/questions/39132057/…
please
nvm
 
8:29 PM
@DirtySockSniffer aprobado
 
@DirtySockSniffer It needs a tie-breaker if two minimums exist
 
I can't reproduce this
 
Maybe the data is designed to not have two
 
@DirtySockSniffer we can always improve edit, instead of waiting for approval.
 
@PierreLafortune x == min(x) will grab all of them, should there be multiples
 
8:32 PM
@DirtySockSniffer base analogue is ave, not unlist(tapply(, which depends on groups being ordered, i guess
 
I saw that. But the output might be forced to be one value
 
Ay caramba. Okay
I'm rusty
That's what I get for answering a dupe.
haha
 
:) i'm having trouble finding a good dupe target
 
@Frank this has it, but it's only the last answer stackoverflow.com/questions/24831580/…
This groups by two columns, but it's the same idea stackoverflow.com/questions/31344487/…
Found a better one
 
yeah, that's good. weird that no one used ave in an answer
maybe i'm missing something
 
8:53 PM
That dupe only has a dplyr answer though.
Oh but it links to another.
Nowadays they're all duplicates.
 
it's dupes all the way down (ref)
 

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