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02:09
How awesome would that be???
I think I'm going to give those a go.
 
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06:55
Hi @CathG
Hi akrun :-)
and congrats for the 60K ;-) I think that it won't be long until we can congrat you for 100K ;-)
Thanks, I was a bit fortunate to be on sabbatical..
@akrun You used the past tense. Does that mean there will be more opportunities for the rest of us to post answers now :-)
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@akrun, don't lower your merit, even on sabbatical, don't think there are much people that could answer as many questions with as many good answers
@AnandaMahto Yes, I noticed. When I am engaged in other activities (just like you guys do), it is obvious that the time spent here will be less.
@CathG I don't know. I think AnandaMahto is very busy, otherwise he will be on the top.
07:05
@akrun, well maybe @AnandaMahto is one of the "not much" people that can compete with you ;-)
You both give me too much credit. I can't even explain what OOP is :-)
@CathG I was active on R mailing list before. Last year I had a skype interview in which I was asked to write some code for a specific problem, which I couldn't do in 20 secs (on a stopwatch). That is when I thought I should improve my skills and there is no other place than stackoverflow to do that.
And I can only think in R with respect to languages, so I'm not a very versatile programmer.
@AnandaMahto Me too. Though, I tried in Perl for some time, I didnt like because I have to type all the #usr/bin/ etc..
I recently had to use R to automate some generation of "ffmpeg" commands because I couldn't think about how to do it just with "ffmpeg" :-) Kind of a funny combination....
Video processing running in my RStudio workspace....
07:13
@akrun, then I see why you are being so fast! I bet you can do this bit of could in much less than 20 sec now?
Hi @DavidArenburg
@CathG Hi :)
@RichardScriven Sounds good
@CathG It is because of the competitive nature here. There are a lot of people who raise the competition so everybody gets benefited in the end wrt to skill levels.
@akrun I had the same
I was interviewed for FB
and failed to write some simple merge code
I was sure that with my exp on SO these stuff will be piece of cake for me
@DavidArenburg, thanks for the edit ;-)
@akrun What kind of problem was it? Was it ultimately straightforward enough that it could be arrived at in 20 seconds?
Did it have to be working code or was psuedo-code sufficient?
07:17
@CathG Will you stop posting your answers here for getting cheap meta effect :)
Is it? I was interviewed for a small lab in University of California. It was a fizzy matching, but I was a bit handicapped as the laptop I was using didn't have the R loaded and writing a pseudocode without testing is difficult for me.
@DavidArenburg héhé got me ;-) (although I already got cheap rep for that ;-) : see how I follow your precepts !!)
@CathG akruns answer speed is less than a minute usually
@DavidArenburg, yes, I hardly have time to go through the question that akrun has already answered it usually ;-)
Huh. I just got an answer accepted for an answer I posted in September 2014. That was delayed....
07:20
@AnandaMahto Yeah I've got a few of these lately
but no one accepts my answers usually
@DavidArenburg For a brand new question without any experience, it takes time. But usually, it takes more than a minute.
yesterday ive reached my rep cap real quik
and them lost about 100 rep for lost votes while gaining only 230 rep in total
i dont how you guys getting 300-400 rep
i only managed to get to 300 after getting a 100 bounty
how can you lose 100 rep at once ?
@DavidArenburg 300-400 rep is difficult to be sure because of the rep cap without a lot of accepts.
@akrun i think that around 50%-60% of questions on SO are dupes
@CathG 10 upvotes that I didnt get any rep for
because reahed the damn budget cap
@akrun thats my point exactly
no one ever accepts my answers
07:22
@CathG, I think David means there was at least 100 rep that he could have gotten but didn't.
oh yes of course. Well, it's a waste !... too bad you can't keep them for the day after (like a rep reserve)
@CathG at least you are getting the upvte count
so it doesn't effect the badges
@DavidArenburg, that's the problem also when answering question from new users, they seem to not know about the check mark :-(
@CathG yeah
And it's frowned upon to educate them about it...
07:24
though i saw people trying to guide them real hard :)
@DavidArenburg @AnandaMahto :-D
@AnandaMahto Dirk just did it a couple of day ago
@DavidArenburg, for an answer that wasn't really the answer.
@AnandaMahto yes
I even saw once someone giving upvote to a user's question so the user will have enough rep to upvote the answer !
07:26
and ofcourse a simple pesant like me cant comment under it
@CathG rolf that snaeky
i think @akrun did it once :)
@DavidArenburg I sometimes do tell them how to do it, but still they have some problem in moving the cursor to click the tick button. Yes, I did that a couple of times :-)
And @DavidArenburg's "meta effect" didn't kick in for me on my answer there :-(
@AnandaMahto I think i gave you an upvote
@akrun so tell us about the puppets
Ahh. So you are the meta effect :-)
I always wanted to hear the story from you :)
07:27
what puppets?
well, when we guide them it's just for SO's good, so the question is no more in the "unanswered question" queue ;-)
Let me get popcorn....
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@AnandaMahto when we will have the new 30K rep privilages we will be the meta effect
@akrun J/K nvm
@DavidArenburg, Sorry. Can't do. You're posting it in the wrong room.
how come I see it in "fading ink"? is that because it is on the deletion process? I can just downvote it if it helps at all ?
07:32
@CathG, Downvotes lead to gradual disappearance.
cool... :-)
David's trying to do the humane thing and just let it have a swift death rather than a slow, painful, rep-reducing experience.
this should be closed too (double typo), although @akrun is being nice enough to try and help the OP
@AnandaMahto I think this answer just couldnt be worse
@CathG I voted to close it now.
07:36
@akrun just answered in less than a minute :)
@akrun you gave it the "coup de grâce" ;-)
@akrun, btw, where did you get your regex skills
@DavidArenburg That is a softball question.
Avinash ?
@CathG I don't think akrun learnt it from him
07:38
@DavidArenburg Just by trial and error and also from watching how the giants do it. I learned it from the greats that post in R mailing list.
@akrun Oh, nice. I never followed the mailing list really
I find its interface awefull
It is a bit slow because of the moderation. Sometimes I had to wait for 24 hours or more to get the answers posted. By that time, the OP must have figured it out by himself
@AnandaMahto Do I really have to beg for a vote in R room? I mean, common
@akrun Oh they also moderating it?
strange
BondedDust is also a moderator.
I think its just posted once a day no?
07:47
No, it depends upon the availability of moderators
07:57
What kind of a silly Q/A is that to give 500 rep for stackoverflow.com/questions/13033614/…
Its nice plots and all, but why will anyone ever need this
@zx8754 kak dela
I am not Russian :) normal'no
they should explain why Ben Bolker solution isn't ok... (maybe to decorate the office when there is a party ?...)
@DavidArenburg oh yes indeed, my mistake (I was stupidly looking for a reason in the bounty "banner" ;-) ) so the reason is that there is none ? interesting...
@CathG Yes my point exactly...
08:12
@DavidArenburg btw does "Kak Dela" mean "hello" in russian (might as well also improve my russian skills, I mean, start them, for now I only know how to say bread...)
@CathG Its more like "how are you?"
ok thanks!
it is more like "how are works"
@zx8754 Yes, if you will translate it literaly
I actually do that alot (translating from hebrew to English literally) for fun
It is interesting how something banal in some culture sounds so awkward in another
translating literaly a langage's expression in another langage can be indeed quite funny
08:17
indeed, how about coming up with new words by accident
Here we have a true russian
Me and @tonytonov were born in the same city
Which city?
True russian does not write in english, I suppose :)
Saint Petersburg.
@tonytonov Star for that
It's great, always raining and then winter comes.
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08:25
My father hates the whole "English" world
True russian uses ru.stackoverflow.com
a True russian patriot
@zx8754 Oh my, really?!
When on earth did they come up with that silly idea
Long time ago, there are other language SOs
There are only 4 R questions :)
@zx8754 Why would you need such a silly thing?
aesthetics ? (from my point of view...)
08:28
It is in Beta, I think it is a good idea
I've seen stackoverflow in russian, shut down the internets.
and this post would be closed in engSO: ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/82746/…
4 R questions. 2 of them blatantly OT
08:30
:)
@tonytonov sounds like London to me
@zx8754 Oh my 256 MB RAM
Actually St. Petersburg is not so bad
They had a very sunny years lately
I remember they had 40 degrees (above zero) several years ago
That was when I forgot to switch off the oven :)
It's not that bad actually, esp. in May-June.
White nights, cheap bars, etc.
@tonytonov Yeah, white nights
I remember that as a boy
I especially like the great variety of museums
There is a musium practically for everything
True :)
@tonytonov My whole family is there except my mother
08:41
Cool. Don't forget about me when you decide to visit them :)
@tonytonov I'll do my best :)
 
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10:05
guys, I need 1.5k rep for creation of a tag, but how much rep it will costs me?
I don't think it would cost you anything.
OK, thanks
still need 420 more rep :)
@AnandaMahto time is money :)
@JanGorecki What tag? We can create it for you
"anchormodeling" related to anchormodeling.com design pattern. Not needed yet, till I need it maybe I will have 1.5 rep already
it is 6NF database design
used in data warehousing where schema structure can evolve over time
10:13
@zx8754 Then what the heck are we doing on SO!!!! :-)
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11:12
@AnandaMahto Life is also about fun!
@zx8754 You mean SO fun ;)
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11:35
funny (?) here, the accepted answer is less efficient than the OP's solutions (he gave 2 methods). Actually, the guy seems quite good to develop crafty efficient code
and accepted answer does not even work, puzzling...
11:58
@StevenBeaupré what's mate
@CathG SO is puzziling, no doubt
@DavidArenburg, that's for sure! I edited the accepted answer so at least, now, it works...
Greetings :)
@StevenBeaupré So Steve tell us about yourself
I'm 28, I live in Westmount, Canada. It's all in the bio ;)
Oh, I don't read these :)
@StevenBeaupré Actually I don't see anything in your bio
12:15
It used to show my location / age. Maybe the new UI.
Woah ! am I day dreaming or did I just saw akrun in a chat room.
@StevenBeaupré Yes, this is the porpose of this caht room
get to know people
that wouldn't have met otherwise
and thanks to this chat room we now know that akrun is, somewhat surprisingly, just one and human
That's interesting. So anyways, my first language is French, I'm recently engaged, I work for a financial institution, I'm on the business side, defining with upper management the strategies for our commercial activities (not from an IT background), I'm learning R through StackOverflow (learning by answering and reading from you guys).
@CathG @akrun, congrats on passing the turing test.
12:32
@BrodieG, oh, some other english expression that I don't get :-(
@CathG He probably means this but I'm not sure what's the context
@DavidArenburg thanks! actually, I was there :-D
I was referring to @CathG foolish belief that Akrun is really human. Or one for the matter.
@CathG Now you have another French guy in the room
@BrodieG :-D thanks for the understanding help
@DavidArenburg I'm not sure how a Canadian would like to be called French ;-) but I've got a langage's fellow for sure :-)
12:38
@CathG yeah that's what I meant
 
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14:45
@DavidArenburg What a great name for a package :-)
 
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16:46
Every time I answer a question lately, this person has something to say about it...stackoverflow.com/questions/29944969/… Haha
it is your fan :)
Haha, oh boy that's exciting
If I define this:
How do I post backticks here. aargh.
Let me start over....
If I post the following...
`%-%` <- function(left, right) lapply(left, "-", right)
test %-%
  test1
as an answer here...
... do you think I would manage to fool people into thinking they are using pipes and pick up some unwarranted votes?
17:02
Possibly, but I think Josh O'Brien has you beat
@RichardScriven, but that's not a list! He didn't fully do the OP's work!
 
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18:42
@akrun, when you don't post an answer in 40 seconds, I wonder whether you're going to do so at all.
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Q: Saving code - versioning in R

Mick PolandIs there any way to save your workspace code to a file? I would like to save each version of my program in R using RStudio, simply by running the code itself.

No. You cannot save your code. Or version it. These things are impossible with today's technology.
@AnandaMahto I didn't want to post that as an answer, but the OP requested. I guess we posted at the same time. But, it's okay...
19:05
Sigh. Only 28 more days like today to go. How many months will it take?
@RichardScriven He just wants to upvote him
@RichardScriven I meant he wants you to upvote him
19:27
@AnandaMahto Days like this until?
@BrodieG, Legendary, of course :-) (which in a strange way I will find quite amusing)
@AnandaMahto I have about the same amount of days for Epic...
 
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20:59
@DavidArenburg What happened to your mood? :-)
@akrun Tired of dplyr everywhere.
And pipes
and Bongs
@DavidArenburg Yes, I noticed that from Ananda Mahto's comment yesterday or so. Today, there was a similar post using magrittr but I feel sorry for user20650 as he deleted the answer.
@akrun Yes, from another user who copy pasted hi solution to magrittr
@user20650 is my role model on how one should behave on SO
I love that guy
@akrun The popularity of dplyr is amazing though. How your approach is so much better than the simple base one?
Though I don't get rep from upvotes anymore anyway
dplyr strangely attracts more votes...
@DavidArenburg I also deleted an answer after a similar answer was posted by AvinashRaj with a bit more explanations with regex.
21:07
@zx8754 Yes hadley knows his sh*t (pardon)
@DavidArenburg My votes maxed out for today otherwise I would have voted for you :-)
he is an advertising/brain washing machine
@akrun Yes, I know
You always finish your votes first thing on the morning :)
@DavidArenburg That is why I suggested to post it, as dplyr gets points
everytime I'm suddenly getting many upvotes I know akrun woke up :)
@DavidArenburg Now, you got the same number of upvotes, but for some reason the OP accepted the dplyr
21:12
@akrun "for some reason" :)
When a 60K rep user answers a dplyr answer, how can you resist? :)
@DavidArenburg No, that may not be the reason
@DavidArenburg If you post a really good data.table solution with a good pitch such as "modify by reference" and not copying etc., it will create a good impression and will accept your answer. It happened a couple of days back where you posted a data.table solution on a dplyr question and got accepted.
Its late. Will talk tomorrow
21:33
@akrun I remeber that one :) Was quite awkword TBH. G/N anyway
Arun just made some awesome updates in the data.table devel version and is on editing old SO post rampage :)

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