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03:44
@JanGorecki I've heard the terminology. Don't know what it means, so not sure if I've ever used it :-)
 
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07:26
@AnandaMahto He probably means object oriented programming.
I used in C++, never in R, pretty cool stuff.
@zx8754 OO is pretty common in R packages
all the classes are basically OO
Ananda knows it well btw. He has some good answers with it.
@maveň you have write access if you want to say something
@DavidArenburg tanks, for granting acess :D
@maveň NP :)
what are the topics I can ask here?
07:38
Pretty much anything as long is it doesn't include racism, cursing or sexual harrasment
nice.
@DavidArenburg, are you questioning my Google skills :-)
@DavidArenburg ok I am out of here
@zx8754 Not sure what that means :)
@AnandaMahto Oh sorry I didn't see the there...
07:55
Congrats on 30K
@zx8754 Thanks. That were the fastest 10K ever...
@zx8754 There's a discussion on Meta to give new moderation tools for 30K users
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Q: What privilege should 30k users get?

Jon EricsonThe last time we lifted the level cap was in 2011. Last year, we added a unilateral close-as-duplicate power for gold tag badge holders, but no new reputation level. So we've been thinking about giving users more reasons to keep playing. (I've answered this question with some circumstantial evide...

Like upvoting your own posts? :P
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@DavidArenburg, not being original, congratulations for the 30K!
@CathG Thanks
Now I need to stop
If I'll post an answer today, make sure to downvote
or: post it under my account so I get faster to 10K ;-)
08:05
@DavidArenburg, As a person who has basically learned all programming just by fiddling around, I don't know what any formal terminology or jargon really means. I just try to make sure that the code I wrote worked... :-)
@AnandaMahto What do you think about the new privileges? Which answer you prefer?
I thought 20K were sufficient to delete comments?
In a meeting, so not going to be able to look at them for another few hours.
@CathG No. No one can't delete a comment other than the OP himself or a moderator
But I would like to be able to delete comments.
Though such a thing can lead to some nasty comment wars between trusted users.
Another option is a trusted user will delete comments of some user he hates
I got a comment deleted once (the OP was posting 3 times the same question in the same day so I was asking if this was a joke), it was deleted very quickly so I guessed it was by a "trusted user" because it seemed fast for a flag/moderator action...
08:11
I like the idea of weighting - meta.stackexchange.com/a/252708/228487
@zx8754 yes nice one
Also, idea of being able to comment on a deleted post
@CathG the worse case scenario could be if a trusted user will steal answers from comments while deleting those comments :]
oh, that would be kind of "perverse" !
and the user should loose 20K for not being so trustworthy ;-)
@CathG Or the rep should be moved to Cath instead of just being lost
Ok really need to get back to work now
What kind of stupid edit suggestion is that?
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Q: detect outliers in a group and outlier in the single data

ToToCar 100 200 300 Group1 34 35 34 Group1 57 67 34 Group1 68 76 6 Group2 45 23 23 I have some problems while detecting outliers in my dataframe. I want to detect if there is a complete vector (one row) an outlier of the corresponding group vectors (rows one-three)for each group. Fur...

08:17
Congratulation @DavidArenburg on 30k :)
@JanGorecki Oh thanks man :)
SO is not a social place lol - meta.stackexchange.com/a/252836/228487
@zx8754 Yes, these type of answer always get downvotes
Someone please reject the edit on the posted link above
done
@zx8754 Here's a similar proposal meta.stackexchange.com/questions/253921/…
@zx8754 Thanks, wasn't sure if this guy serious or trolling
08:21
@DavidArenburg, what a great idea :-D
@CathG tagging users?
You saw my comment there?
Or I missed the again
@DavidArenburg, yes, could be a good idea... (tagging user), did someone really put that as a comment ? users can be flagged though, no ?
(snark tag about the rep move ? don't worry, it was there ;-))
or about the "trusted user" ? also there ;-)
@CathG Yes, some one did. It developed to yet another Israeli/Palestinian conflict argument. Eventually I've got a mail from BoltClock to chill
And no, you can't flag a user, but you can flag his comment to a moderator and add some not very comeling description underneath
I thought in SO we were out of nationality/religion/... did this user get anything from the moderators ? there should be a system of fees (or exclusion...)
@CathG He was 1 rep user, so he had nothing to lose. He may got suspended, but it's not my business I guess. I haven't seen him since.
ok really need to get back to work
09:17
@DavidArenburg see, the problem is that I can't manage to follow your 2nd and 3rd precept... :-( (and this one is not so good for the 1st precept either :-S)
@CathG You are probably the Necromancer type
;-)
I did follow the 5th precept though because actually, it only works because mean has got "UseMethod("means")" in its definition... :-D argh, gonna have to search for another way...
@CathG Sneaky
09:40
Ok, gave some simple answer which escalated real quick to a lesson in R basics
<sigh>
isn't this somehow related to that ?........
@CathG Probably. Don't have time to look at it
back to work
spent too much time on understading why on earth c("x", "y", "z") won't sort correctly
Factors are a real mess
10:03
@DavidArenburg Answers don't belong in comments....
@CathG I occasionally convert other people's comments to answers, but then I CW my answer.
When SO is really dull, I sometimes dig through the "unanswered" R questions queue and make such conversions, but usually only if the person who asked the question still appears to be active on SO.
@AnandaMahto Stealing is a concept more global than the SO bubble
I don't care what anyone says on how SO works or not, I won't become a stealer because of it
How is converting a comment to an answer "stealing", especially if it is CW'd?
@AnandaMahto have no idea what's CW
Community Wiki.
@AnandaMahto CW is fine I guess. But posting someone elses content as your own without at least mentioning that person is stealing from my point of view
and you won't convince me eitherway
I'm triggering an auto downvote in these occasions
10:12
Is that downvotable?
@AnandaMahto I said that "CW is fine I guess"
Though you mentioned the comments at least
Hopefully that person would accept the answer, which moves it out of the unanswered queue, and maybe makes the R answerers look like a friendly helpful bunch.
10:28
Another David active in R on SO is about to hit 10K up-votes on their contributions so far.... Then we'll have two at that level....
@AnandaMahto It seems that MrFlick made into the top 20 too now
10:42
I wish I could un-see this answer:
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A: Returning index of vector

daattaliAnother fun approach: v1 <- c(1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8) head(c(1, cumsum(rle(v1)$lengths) + 1), -1) Or if you have magrittr then it can become library(magrittr) v1 %>% rle %>% .$lengths %>% cumsum %>% add(1) %>% c(1, .) %>% head(-1) Result: 1 3 4 5 7 8 9 12 Migh...

Their idea of fun and mine clearly differ.
@DavidArenburg, yup. He was another fast riser....
@AnandaMahto Oh I have to post this in R group
This what happens when open source is too open
@AnandaMahto so what do you think of this room so far
Chatty :-)
Nice to feel comfortable getting to know people rather than have to regulate everything you post.
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10:57
@AnandaMahto Yes, that was the point of this room exactly. Nice summary.
On a side note, I wish SO had a better mobile chat app.
Maybe you could bring some more people to here too as a room owner
Will do...
dont forget to give write access though :)
i dont think you can even invite anyone without giving him write access before
Will wait until I'm in front of a bigger screen and not in a bumpy car to try it out.
11:04
It seems like it triggered some discussion in the other room
anyone good at stats?
@zx8754 Certainly not me. CV has some very skillful guys
11:37
@DavidArenburg congrats on 30K.
@BrodieG Lol thanks
What extra privilege would you want?
@BrodieG I like this one (mentioned by @zx8754) meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252690/…
I was actually thinking to suggest a similar think for long time now
Seems reasonable.
 
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14:12
Well this is a luxurious new room.
@RichardScriven Hi man
you can be an owner if you'd like (according to room rules)
What's it for? Like an intermediate between the private and public R rooms? Also you know I'm in Califonia, right?
@RichardScriven yeah
this room is just for not related (necessarily) to R talks
get to know eachother etc
its just a test
an answer in recent DT question
like goofing around and OT stuff
14:17
is freaky :)
the recent one
@JanGorecki Yes, I saw it
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A: How to do an X[Y] data.table join, without losing an existing main key on X?

Bob Hopez This seems to be the most memory efficient way to approach the problem. require(data.table) # using v1.9.5 (DT <- data.table(site = rep(LETTERS[1:2], each=3), date = rep(1:3, times=2), x = rep(1:3*10, times=2), key = "site,date")) # site dat...

it's even funny :)
Okay, cool. I don't really need to be an owner but if you want to you can make me one
@JanGorecki Yeah, I didn't really read it thru
trying to concetrate on work real hard
with no success whatsoever
i need to disconnect from the internet
14:21
I love it when people say "this seems to ...." in their answers, but if you don't actually check it you could be completely wrong
@RichardScriven "this seems" is actually a better version of "here's what you should do"
In all my answers I always say "here's a possible solution"
or another bad version is "here's the data.table way"
True. I also try to go with "here's a possibility" too
like you are the only one in the world who knows what's the "data.table way"
@JanGorecki Good thing we had @Frank to the resque
and Arun
:) yeah, this one seems like a straightforward operation to me, but i'd also really like to see secondary keys
This room is becoming the data.table fan club
14:27
Haha. In that answer the one thing that pops out at me is the blatant misuse of <<-. I don't see a closure in that answer so <<- is uncalled for
ah, when i saw that i just figured "this guy must know r much more deeply than i do"
He notes an explanation but I have never seen that used in data table operations
Maybe it's okay, maybe it's wrong. I shall refrain from voting :)
@zx8754 I have a degree in statistics but I can't say I'm really "good" at stats :)
Man, I take a week off from SO and there are all these new users whose answers I actually have to read before upvoting.
@RichardScriven It looks like you are trying real hard not to get the "Fanatic" badge :)
I'm trying to get a damn star. Hahaha
Plus I've already exceeded my daily maximum of coffee.
Oh, the fanatic badge. I had like 97 days once then i missed a day. That one's not easy to get unless you just leave your computer on all day every day
14:42
@RichardScriven Or you just addicted like me
could have 10 of these by now
@DavidArenburg It really was. Last week you were about 5k behind me. Nice job
@RichardScriven Yes I had some blitz
but i didnt mean to
dont know how it happened
Well you had a question that scored you one or two votes ;)
But that was really only a few hundred. Hmm, that was a good run then
the question was long ago
and i didnt get so much rep for it as i reached the cap many times lately
not to menion that you have quite a lot of these
though you spreading huge bounties all over.
I need answers and I need them now. Haha
14:49
:)
Your recent bounty is just trying to be gratefull though
No but Josh's answer was worth a little more because it really helped me understand a lot of the basics of printing, which lead to explanations of other things
@RichardScriven Yeah, you made a huge jump in your R skills
i saw some of your recent answers. Top quality
Plus I think he produces some of the highest quality answers in the R tag, knows his stuff, and so I wanted to thank him
Thanks David, I think we've both come a long way over the last year
@RichardScriven probably. But my OO skills haven't improved much. Neither regex.
I saw you've posted some sed stuff too
I want to learn C/C++ real bad
You know, I was putting too much emphasis on learning regex but it turns out that it's really not as important as I thought it was. Definitely great to have those skills, but in both my packages I rarely used regex at all.
14:54
@RichardScriven and ofcourse you wrote two packages
which is really nice
Yeah, one made it onto CRAN. woo! still working on the other one
15:10
@DavidArenburg Congrats for the 30k!
@akrun lol thanks
congrats on the 60K:)
Thanks, I wonder if there is anything special with 30K as per the discussions
in the meta
@akrun nothing really, no one hopes he will ever reach 60K :)
30K is much more real
its also the next step after 20K
Okay :-)
@RichardScriven I posted it to CV, hope they won't discard it as silly :) stats.stackexchange.com/questions/148677/…
15:24
@zx8754 It's a good question, imo. I wish we got into principal components a bit more in my undergrad work. We only spent a week or two on it. I'm sure you'll get a good answer there.
15:37
The above mentioned data.table answer just becomes worse and worse. <sigh>
15:55
@zx8754 You've got our votes
@DavidArenburg Thank you
16:36
How does a question like this get 4 votes? It's not the worse I've seen, but certainly isn't that good either!
 
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19:09
@AnandaMahto people like questions they can answer, and there are so many ways to answer this. my take: the questioner is asking for silly things like specific colname patterns when they should be concerned with efficiency if they're doing "11 of these operations every 20 seconds" ... and using matrices, prolly
@docendodiscimus welcome
Thanks David and hello everyone
So what do you do in life
if this in not too personal
I'm a professional race car driver
@docendodiscimus Nice one :)
19:21
haha, no just kidding
I figured :)
I'm a phd student
nice
everyone's a PHD on the R ta
But you are not, right?
19:25
This isn't meant negative - I guess 99% of phd students sometimes think they should quit the phd and get a proper job..
@docendodiscimus I have no choice actually
i had 2 kids while doing B.A.
another one on MSc
Now another one
got to feed them all !
Wow - 4 kids! congrats :) this is much better than any phd
@docendodiscimus Usually it s Phd and thenkids
I might as well have kids before doing the B.A. :)
Well, everyone has to decide whether it's worth striving for whatever is considered a "usual" life. In my opinion one shouldn't worry too much about that
 
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21:02
@JanGorecki this is probably the fasted response in GitHub history
I think it took you less than 3 minutes to write this whole thing
 
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22:26
@DavidArenburg I'm checking gh more often than so, that's why :)

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