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Q: Moderator Election question: Is it okay to vote for just two candidates?

User.1Is it within the voting rules to just pick two candidates as 1st and 2nd choice ? i.e., Is a third choice required in order for the vote to be valid ? Searched 5 or 6 suggested relevant questions, couldn't find this one duplicated. If this is a dupe, please just post the link to it.

 
 
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4:49 AM
 
Is the left edge the very start of the final phase?
 
Yes, that should be the first hour of the final phase.
Re-scraping the caucus data now to graph against it.
 
@JeremyBanks You can take a shortcut for scraping with sede; you only need to scrape up to the past week (right now; all but last 22 hours in sede): data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/303742 same with Caucus.
 
@JasonC Ahhh... that would have been useful. :P
Oh, well. I'll have a copy of all of the data in the GitHub repo soon. I'm saving the original scraped HTML for each badge, now, so that I won't need to ever re-scrape if I want to re-interpret it.
 
5:07 AM
How can i participate in the moderator election
 
@VikasGautam Hi. You can see all of the final candidates on the election page, and use the buttons to pick your top three choices.
Let us know if you have any specific questions.
 
@JeremyBanks Here's your histogram: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/303746
 
@JasonC Thanks, that's useful.
 
I wonder what happened to the plot view on SEDE; guess it disappeared. @TimStone?
@JeremyBanks Yeah it's a decent sanity check. Looks like you nailed it.
Uncomment the Caucus bit and set the minimum date range back to the start of the nominations to pull those badges too.
 
5:25 AM
@JeremyBanks meta.stackexchange.com/questions/253909 is for you. :P
 
@JasonC +1
 
@Yuyutsu Hi! This chat room is for discussion related to the current ongoing moderator election. If you want to draw more attention to your question, consider placing a bounty on it when available, or asking in a more appropriate chat room (go here and search, e.g. for "ios")
 
5:50 AM
Hello All, can anyone help me? how can I cast my vote? and where I can see candidate list?
 
@JasonC I am sorry. and thanks.. :)
 
Thanks Jason.
 
Hi everyone
 
@JasonC hi :D
 
6:03 AM
@maveň Wasssupp
 
@JasonC im f9 how about u :)
 
@JeremyBanks As of 22 hours ago, looks like only ~20.4% of Caucus badgeholders with > 150 rep actually voted. 14482 Constituents, 71032 Caucus w/ rep, 179792 users with enough rep who last accessed the site since the election started, 272015 users with enough rep total. I don't know if that's good or bad.
@maveň Pretty good; just chilling.
 
@JasonC nice, I was on holidays ;)
 
@JasonC Interesting. I find it just a little surprising that 5x as many people visit the election page as vote.
I've been slightly delayed by adding compression support to my script, so the complete badge record files won't be such ridiculous sizes to be pushing to github.
The very-repetitive text is no match for LZMA: constituent.json's 90MB -> constituent.json.xz's 4MB
 
6:16 AM
Stealing my thunder...... ;)
Cool
About what you might expect.
 
Also interesting, maybe: 3395 people got both Caucus and Constituent after the final phase started (there have been 5784 Caucus's awarded total so far during the final phase), which means about 23.4% of people who have voted never visited any of the previous phases.
Scratch that, my query was broken. 1903 people got both in this election's final phase = 13.1%.
1054 of which spent under 5 minutes total on the page before voting.
 
Interesting.
 
6:33 AM
Including some fairly high rep users. Next step is to construct the shortest regular expression that matches the all of the usernames who spent < 5 minutes thinking, and none of the rest. Then we use that to judge people next year.
 
6:45 AM
who is the most liberal candidate?
 
7:03 AM
pareshbhai
 
Paresh Mayani?
 
What's liberal?
 
I don't know but here's another useless graph.
 
Neat
 
^^
 
7:08 AM
liberal = lax w rules. open to dissent and even a lil trolling
 
If that's what you mean, then none of them.
 
yes i know - must some are more anal than others
 
... that's totally not inappropriate.
 
yes i know
thats my point
 
If you want to find out more about the policies of the people who made the cut to the final phase, check out meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/290096/… (there is an alternate viewer at disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor/qa.jsp as well).
 
7:12 AM
ty
 
This needs some polish, but to prove that I do have the data:
 
It's so fancy with the fills.
^ Also, some polish.
 
@JasonC Exactly what I was looking for!
user image
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7:33 AM
AAA+++++++, would view graph again
 
8:13 AM
 
user50049
You guys are nerds. NERDS.
 
I've got mostly up-to-date data on GitHub now, so somebody wanting to make something better-looking wouldn't have to wait as long to use my script for data.
@TimPost Dope.
 
user50049
 
@TimPost Thanks... now I'm looking online to see if it's actually possible to buy a box that big...
 
user50049
8:23 AM
They have them at the candy store in the mall that I go to
 
user50049
It's like 21.5 kilos of nerds. Diabetes, for you and all your friends.
 
@Tim even if I had friends - why would I share them? If I'm going to give myself diabetes, I'm going to do a proper job of it!
 
user50049
Well, I guess you could put them in a bowl with milk and eat them like grape nuts
 
How big do you think the bowls I have are!? :p
 
About that size?
 
8:37 AM
Is that a bowl or a paddling pool? :p
 
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Q: Can votes be canceled during the elections?

keithmaxxOnce you have cast your three votes, can you cancel one of them? I know you can re-cast a vote for another candidate, but what if you'd like to withdraw one of your three votes because you are not confident about the others?

 
Depends on the breed and age of the dog
 
8:55 AM
 
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A: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

Paresh MayaniParesh Mayani's answers Good luck to all the rocking players. I am really sorry for being late in answering to the question but I was busy in some of the personal tasks and duties which were on high priority. Here are my answers to the collective questions: A question is asked and recei...

Extremely sorry for being so late, but was busy in some of the personal tasks and duties like my boy was got fever last week and was busy planning community event!
Can anyone please share how would I remove "This candidate has not yet answered your questions" from the nomination details?
 
@PareshMayani @Shog9 or @JonEricson probably need to do it.
or @TimPost
 
@JeremyBanks yeah I thought the same :) Because I couldn't find the "edit" button/link anywhere
thank Jeremy
 
You're welcome. Good luck.
 
Am I wrong thinking a moderator should have high english grammar skills?
 
9:05 AM
 
@PareshMayani That's up to the community managers, we cannot set those links
Usually Grace Note sets them, but perhaps @TimPost can handle this?
 
@MartijnPieters I see, thanks.
 
@Paresh not sure if it really matters - but you've linked to your primary post - everyone else is linked to the nomination tab...
 
@JonClements some of the candidates have linked to the primary tab
Ooops sorry, I got it. You referred to the edit made in the question
 
Yeah... Raghhav's goes straight to the election page... everyone else's goes to the nomination tab (at least in the candidates bit)
 
9:32 AM
@PareshMayani yeah, I made the same edits; by the time I submitted you had done most of the same, I also moved you into alphabetical order.
 
@MartijnPieters thanks Martijin.
 
9:45 AM
HI All
i dont't know where to ( i mean in which room ) ask this question so i am asking here !!

can some one help me with that !!

how can i practice svn ( version ) commands !! to learn ?
 
Uh... not here
 
10:01 AM
@abhi This is a room do discuss the ongoing community moderator elections; so SVN questions are not on topic here.
@JeremyBanks: keep them constituency graphs coming! We are closing in on last years vote count now, only about 700 votes short from that number.
 
10:55 AM
@PareshMayani I'll fix it
Wait, no, apparently I can't.
 
11:10 AM
@TimPost mind blown
@JeremyBanks What's special about 50000?
 
@GraceNote :(
 
@JasonC It's over 9000.
So how many people voted so far?
 
@Shog9 Hi, can you please help me to edit my nomination?
 
@SecondRikudo we are a few hundred away from last years count.
2 days ago, by Martijn Pieters
To see how many people have voted so far: Take the number of people with the Constituent badge and subtract 42138, which was the number of people with that badge before the election opened yesterday.
 
@MartijnPieters So... about 20k..21k?
 
11:30 AM
@JeremyBanks I updated that query to generate the full histogram; data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/303838 - still 24+ hours out of date but... for future reference.
 
11:52 AM
@SecondRikudo 21k and change.
We just passed last year's vote count, actually.
Last year there were 21571 votes cast, and the constituent badge count before the election started was 42138.
42138 + 21571 = 63709, but there are now 63714 Constituent badges.
Ergo, we have a bumper election crop this year!
Cabbages all around!
Oh, wait, that's the Python chat room.
 
@MartijnPieters MY CABBAGES!
 
12:24 PM
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Q: Does the current election process suits the community needs?

MichaelCMSIt's the final day of election, and I decided to cast my vote(s). So I browsed to each of the candidate's profiles. With huge respect for everyobody offering themselves to be moderators, and the contribution they will bring to the community, I've noticed what might be a (probably minor) problem...

 
1:08 PM
@SecondRikudo ROFL, that almost cost me my tea..
 
@MartijnPieters It's one of my favorites :D
 
1:18 PM
@PareshMayani I've asked one of the CMs who can do it, to do so though
 
@GraceNote Thank you.
Just for the shake of knowledge, you are also moderator but still you aren't able to moderate that post.
 
@PareshMayani Moderators don't have access to the election page settings.
 
I'm a community manager, actually, but only those with dev access can touch those posts.
 
@GraceNote so Shog9 has dev access then. :-)
 
Correct
More relevantly, I don't, because while I've got experience as a developer, I've no experience with our tech stack here.
 
1:23 PM
Yeah that's what I was wondered with
 
wrong room..
 
Bot?? Wowwww
 
The bot got it wrong
 
1:25 PM
Something is wrong with @xkcdBot, it's posting the same thing again and again..
 
@JonasCz: turns out you were wrong about that, though.
 
Lets see how wrong it'll get: import antigravity
 
And the base test: import antigravity
Very limited then.
 
1:29 PM
What is wrong with this bot?
 
Apparently nothing is wrong with the bot, more with how it is apparently obsessed with me..
 
@MartijnPieters you are gonna be famous very soon :D #JustKidding
 
@MartijnPieters, You are going to be famous :-)
 
@PareshMayani Done
 
1:41 PM
@GraceNote Thank you very much. Really appreciate!
 
 
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2:43 PM
Voting ends tomorrow! Where do I place my final bets?
 
@davidism you are a day early..
 
Prediction: room 6 will have at least 1 member elected for election 6
 
is 29 hours and 15 minutes soon?
:-P
(context, since David cheated: chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/22801667/history) :-P
 
Gotta make myself look better during elections, and I'm not even in the race.
 
@davidism yeah - where's your Vote Puppy banner!? :) Why aren't you handing out chocolates and stuff :)
 
2:57 PM
Cabbage Corp. does not officially endorse any users in this election. But puppies are cute and ninjas are cool, just saying.
 
@davidism very diplomatic - good job ;)
(you missed some possible &quot;s off there, but we'll let you off this time :p)
 
 
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4:32 PM
@JasonC Nothing; the graph library automatically highlighted it.
 
@JeremyBanks That's kinda funny.
 
@MartijnPieters The graphs in this repo should update a couple of times an hour. Looks like we've had another surge today.
 
That query I linked to works but is crap for like 50 reasons, by the way. I realized it when I woke up this morning. But I can't fix it because I forgot to log in to sede when I made it. So my crap query is forever immortalized in the chat transcript now.
 
Literally the first thing I thought of when I opened my eyes was "oh my god, I can't believe I wrote that query last night".
 
4:36 PM
@JasonC It becomes less funny when the graph library decides that humans are its enemy and tries to wipe them all out...
 
Except for the 50,000 chosen ones.
 
@JeremyBanks you may want to adjust the scale of the first graph :-P
 
@MartijnPieters Yeah, I just adjusted that. Oops. It'll be 50% taller next time.
 
5:04 PM
@JeremyBanks You should add x axis ticks or labels
 
5:34 PM
@JasonC I tried to, but haven't got it working yet. This graphing library's documentation is a bit sparse.
 
@JeremyBanks @JonClements @SecondRikudo - rooting for y'all, good luck! :)
 
@user314104 aww... thank you :)
 
Thanks!
 
6:20 PM
I guess something failed on my PC at home, since it doesn't actually seem to be pushing updated graphs like I intended it to...
 
6:52 PM
poll: who thinks that should be burninated?
useless meta-tag imo.
(i'm trying to see if there any sort of agreement before I post in Meta)
 
I don't know if its a meta tag persay (unless people are using it to indicate homework)
but it doesn't seem terribly useful/descriptive
 
how can one be an expert in questions?
 
I could be an expert in the class keyword and its implications in various languages
But like I said, too broad to be useful
In languages that have it, its probably so common that most questions could be tagged with it.
It will likely need a dev-burn though, with 35K questions
 
@JeremyBanks: why not set the range to max(constituents_by_chunk) instead of hardcoding?
@durron597 You can be in Python, where class is a keyword.
If you are targetting class, target function too. And method. And string and tuple and list and dictionary.
And set and lambda, etc. etc. etc.
 
@MartijnPieters The first point was such an outlier that I didn't mind cutting it off to make the rest a bit clearer.
 
6:59 PM
@JeremyBanks But I am interesting in those outliers! :-)
 
@MartijnPieters Most of those should probably be burned as well.... Seriously, "method"?
 
Set it to the 95th percentile then..
 
I'm not saying its practical
but most of those come from people trying to describe their problem in tags or make a sentence
 
@BradleyDotNET I do find it helpful to find that a question is tagged python class; I know it won't be a BeautifulSoup question but one about defining classes.
Same for the other basic concepts.
They do help say something useful about the question, at least to me.
 
that it sucks?
 
7:02 PM
@MartijnPieters Alright. The hard-coded limits will be gone in a minute.
 
@MartijnPieters I see what you are saying, but those still seem crazy broad. I'd much rather see it tagged with the techs being used, and maybe something related to the problem area.
 
@BradleyDotNET The majority of these questions then end up with just python.
 
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Q: Burninate [class]

durron597I think class is too broad to be useful. The metric I always use is: How can one be an expert in [tag]? You can't be. You can be an expert in Object Oriented programming, maybe... I just don't see how it really adds value over a more descriptive tag. Questions from the rules: Does it d...

 
That's not very helpful, these tags help narrow it down to a specific language area.
 
7:04 PM
@MartijnPieters I openly invite you to make the case against burnination, then.
I would prefer smaller tags like and etc.
@MartijnPieters I suppose that, as a Java programmer, seems more wasteful than it would to a less pure OO language.
 
@durron597 Yes, in the tag would be next to useless.
 
next to?
 
but most languages that support classes are not pure OO languages.
 
Even in C#, everything has to be in a class
 
might be useful
 
7:10 PM
@JanDvorak Well, if you are going to discuss the mechanisms of Java class declarations themselves as opposed to just about any other subject in the language.
 
even though other paradigms are technically in there
 
I don't think they have to be pure object-oriented languages to use the OO tag
 
@MartijnPieters well, on the bright side, maybe this adventure will get you another Reversal badge.
 
@durron597 I need more to defeat the mighty Shog9!
 
@MartijnPieters Pretty close! You have 13 to his 17
Wow. Some of these are good reads:
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A: Paradoxical flag within stackoverflow

Shog9To understand this close reason, it might help you to substitute some of the words, and by doing so create a real-world analogy: primarily putrid greens Many good salads generate some degree of decay based on the breakdown of organic material, but lettuce in this salad will tend to be al...

 
7:22 PM
@durron597 yup, he is mighty.
 
8:17 PM
Paresh...Raghav...are you guys there?
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 8 mins ago, by Lamart
Why is Shog9 called big-boss of all moderators? Who is he actually?
You heard it here first.
 
@AstroCB He's a reptilian, obviously.
 
 
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9:38 PM
@Vikram It's a little late for trying to talk to people in Indian timezones.
 
 
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11:40 PM
If the election votes are returned in chronological order, we could correlate them with constituent badges to find their times, and then make a graph of how different candidates did over time, as the election went on.
 

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