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5:32 AM
Goooood moorniiiiiiiing CeeeeeeShaaaaarp!! What are y'all up to today?
 
!!funfriday I guess
 
6:24 AM
Good morning.
 
6:49 AM
morning
 
7:12 AM
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
@nyconing lel
 
7:48 AM
So anyone here built an Angular component into an AngularJS view by any chance? This stuff is complicated to learn.
 
you want to combine Angular 1 with Angular 2 ?
 
Oh I have combined Angular 1 and Angular 2
It just doesn't work properly yet
 
I suddenly dont feel so sorry for me with my super low level weird premature optimized epically failing code
I mean... good luck :D
 
Glad I could improve your day :)
Thanks XD
 
@Squirrelkiller ... Why?
 
7:54 AM
To gradually switch our product from AngularJS to Angular
It#s too big to just switch the whole thing to Angular, also because there's still hella business logic in there, but fuck AngularJS so we're doing it gradually.
 
do you prioritize your front end framework over extracting the business logic? even with the business logic still in there?
 
Nope, business logic is being worked on too
But this a new feature, so I have to add something to the frontend. And I'm definitely not building something new in AngularJS.
So this will also act as a concept of how to stuff Angular stuff into an AngularJS view without rebuilding the whole view in Angular.
 
I can recommend building it in AngularJS or postponing the feature
wow... I never thought I would ever recommend AngularJS
 
We already do it with services (which was the start of pulling out the business logic), now it's time to do it with UI elements.
 
I can pretty easily spot a framework that I dont ever want to use... and AngularJS is one of them...
 
8:01 AM
oh the feature itself is postponed anywy, because another team fucked up. We should get data from their library and display it basically. Turns out the data isn't passed with the result dataset from the library yet.
 
if all the business logic is gone and you want to port the front end, do it in one go, not gradually
> another team
third party?
 
lol not a chance. It's jsut to big.
other team in company
 
or is the business you work at that big?
@Squirrelkiller still
 
med size business
 
I think it is pretty damn worth to rebuild from scratch
 
8:03 AM
Of course, but our PO won't let us.
It's...not that simple.
 
there is very little you gain by exploiting weird shit to combine two frameworks to work well with each other to do a transition for which you wil probably have to write a shit ton of code to make it work properly
 
Because customers basically
 
which you will all throw away once you are done with that transition
 
Nah, shouldn't be too much code
 
which means that it will take at least 3 times as long
 
8:04 AM
the "integration-code" is mostly just the upgrade adapter
the actual component is gonna be all angular
Also I expect the whole upgrading-to-angular thing to take at least half a year, if not a whole year or more. Depends on 1) customers, 2) other integration projects pushed by CEO and 3) other teams getting their shit together so we can finally kick out their backwards-ass libraries.
(#2 is actually an awesome project so it's not jsut the CEO pushing)
#2 and #3 are basically backend upgrade to netcore
Also everything is aimed to remove business logic from our product and shove it into the other teams' backends.
The direction we're going with ou product is pretty great right now, once it all gets rolling.
 
8:20 AM
directions are always great, because they havent yet been altered by the unexpected changes that occur during the process of development
 
o/
 
8:34 AM
Buenos dias Cucaracha
@Wietlol I'm hopeful though, since the main point slowly shifted from "we need 100% feature completion" to "we need a modern architecture", since building new features is kinda complicated at this point.
 
"we need a modern architecture"
hmm...
in my opinion, it still predates actual modern architectures by at least a decade
but I guess I am living in the future
seeing how vue, angular, T4, etc came into be, I guess people arent yet ready for modern templates
 
Modern enough. We're on the edge of the insurance business. With using Angular we're top of the line already.
 
Why does it have to be a "modern architecture"? It just has to be good to work with.
 
Exactly. And right now, it's not good to work with.
 
If it's an architecture from the 80s that fits perfectly, whyeverthefucknot
 
8:40 AM
Look at this:
1-4 are products of our company
built around 2000
asp.net, .NET Framework 4.0, aspx sites, one giant library behind it that has hte same name as the company and "can do everything". It was once a great idea.
 
Whoa
 
Big"New"Product is what we're working on right now. We're supposed to build a unified product to replace all others.
We're on net451 and AngularJS already.
 
Oh dear.
One product to rule them all is rarely a good idea... is it, in this case?
 
Rewrite is impossible, or a new product will be made Tv
 
We're supposed to have next to no business logic, only using the libraries provided by module-teams.
So far we're kinda modular: We could pretty easily integrate a new module (or submodule, those modules technically have submodules kinda).
Also for our main customers, all the modules belong together. It's like one product cut into four so we could have seperate teams with seperate release cicles.
 
8:44 AM
ahoy o/
 
Captain O7
Well, because of the libraries we're using, we can't upgrade to netcore. Literally the only reason.
Also because the module-teams didnt properly seperate their frontends from their logic in the libraries, we had to put much logic in our own backend. So we often have stuff to build that included business logic, which includes correctly using the libraries.
And we're all on servers running WinServ2012 (or, like, 2 servers even 2k8), not really seperated. One goal is to have the teams take their stuff to their servers at the moment, so we can handle our servers without having to check which modules are going offline too if we reboot something.
And once we're on netcore, we can just shove everything in docker and on a cluster. PoC is already functional, we just need to go netcore.
It's gonna be amazing.
Rolling updates. Zero downtime. Quicker release cycled. Fewer features = fewer bugs per cycle.
Independent release cycles. No more "hey guys we need a release candidate library until thursday".
 
MurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaiderMurmaider
 
Different topic: I have like 9€ in Google Play Credit from google rewards. What do I do with that? I already got the premium versions of the apps I'm using. I don't need google music/video/books, those needs are all fulfilled elsewhere.
What kind of apps do you guys use on your phone beside the usual reddit/<socialMedia>/<messenger> ?
 
@Squirrelkiller Use it when the need arises. No need to spend money now just because you have it.
 
Oh I'll lose it in like half a year or so. Also I expect to not need it until then or the years after at least, I got everything I need on my phone.
Also I expect to continue to get google surveys.
 
8:57 AM
user image
3
 
@nyconing I especcialy like the little bug
Install PokeGo
Buy PokeCoins
Delete PokeGo
ty
 
Nah I get enough Coins from Gyms
There's still a Viech in the gym at my office, since wednesday morning
 
9:14 AM
Seriously though @CaptainSquirrel @RoelvanUden I wonder what kind of other apps you have on your phones.
(And anyone else here, I jsut tagged the first two coming to mind)
 
Nothing that was paid for. In general I have the least possible apps.
 
Except SiT, because I'm just evil like that.
 
Is the app not adding anything beyond what I can do on a website? I won't install it.
 
Also @Squirrelintraining Ima call you SiT now.
Well most of the time, native apps run way better than the website
 
alot of shit lmao
 
9:16 AM
They also want permissions for everything and get all your personal data because you wanted to look at the weather
 
Beside the obligatory stuff, I have an eBook reader and Ingress/PoGo
 
I like writing my mobile apps using react.js transpiled from kotlin
am I weird lol?
 
!!votekick Wietlol
 
@Squirrelkiller voted to kick @Wietlol
 
I've got 3 different food apps
 
9:16 AM
You're what's wrong with app development
 
4 different authenticators
 
Amazons app is in react "native" too. native my ass.
 
disocr,d whatsapp, netflix, amazon & prime now, twitch
 
you watch netflix on your phone?
 
to be fair, it works much better than anything else I have tried for mobile development
 
9:17 AM
5 games, timesheet tracker thingy, reddit, slack
@Squirrelkiller not often, but it's nice to have the option
 
@Squirrelkiller kk killerino
 
also i can look through netflix to see if there is anything i want to watch
i also think that my smart tv has a virus or malware or something
 
@Wietlol TypeScript + React + Mobx ;-)
 
@Squirrelkiller change your battery dude
 
npm hosts the application on my network, so I can access it from my mobile device
 
9:17 AM
@Roel oh come on
 
it was using more than 50% of my network bandwidth yesterday ._,
 
it automatically updates whenever I change something in the code
compiling is a bit slow, but I will deal with it
 
@CaptainSquirrel I hate smart TVs. Why does it have to be smart? Have wifi, camera's, microphones? Spy on you all the time?
Fuck that fucking shit.
 
AFAIK ours doesn't have a microphone or a camera
you can't speak to it or do jestures or anything
 
ya fuck smart TVs
 
9:18 AM
but it does have a netflix app which is handy dandy
 
also, opening the app as a website feels very accessible imo
 
Mine does. I jailed the fucking thing on MAC address and removed all network connections.
 
I think I like that more than an app actually
 
every fucking RasPi is faster than those things
 
Literally the thing my TV (Samsung) says if you press the microphone button
 
9:18 AM
Yeah, i changed the wifi password & enabled mac address filtering on the wireless last night
 
there should be a tool to have a shortcut open your browser with a specific link
 
"OH HEY WE NEED INTERNET AND MICROPHONE AND CAMERA ACCESS AND WE MAY RECORD YOU SO THERE IS THAT LUL"
 
lmao wat
 
Want to use an app? YOU NEED TO SIGN IN TO YOUR SAMSUNG ACCOUNT AND HAND US YOUR SOUL!
Fucking Smart TVs man.
Bloody thing cost 1800 euros too
 
1) Why did you buy a smart TV at all? 2) Why the hell Samsung?!
 
9:19 AM
I mean i can just watch youtube & netflix on the roku/nowtv box soooooo
I don't really need to use the tv to do that
but the big netflix button on the remote is nice
 
I just watch netflix from my xbox lol
 
I wanted a 75" TV that supports 4K/120hz
 
I'd use the ps4, but its upstairs
 
There ain't much option then
 
There weren't any dumbTVs with those stats?!
 
9:20 AM
No definitely not
 
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
!!tell Squirrelintraining Is this room out of control?
 
9:21 AM
@Squirrelkiller Command is does not exist. Did you mean: its, ifs, bs, js (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
@Squirrelkiller fuck
@Squirrelintraining your
 
@Squirrelintraining afk
 
scusi?
 
ME SCUSA
 
9:22 AM
me supposa
!!afk "Fuck you don't ping me"
 
@Squirrelkiller wat?
 
@Squirrelkiller you can't tell me what to do
@Squirrelkiller you're not my dad
@Squirrelkiller i'll ping if i want to!
 
@Squirrelkiller and not mine either
 
@Squirrelkiller i'll leave my friends behind!
@Squirrelkiller because if they don't dance!
 
@Squirrelkiller he really does
 
9:24 AM
@Squirrelkiller they're no friends of mine!
 
@Squirrelkiller thats a lie
@Squirrelkiller are there any message here that has more answers than that one?
 
@Squirrelkiller congratz, you have lots of notifs now
 
@Squirrelkiller is this room out of control?
 
@Squirrelkiller I think he's still there and just clicked on em all
 
@Squirrelkiller I guess this is sort of karma for wednesday
 
9:25 AM
@Squirrelkiller y'all are just pinging him but not answering to the message :<
 
@Squirrelintraining Squirrelkiller is afk: "Fuck you don't ping me"
 
@Squirrelkiller even though you didnt start that one
 
damn, that took a while @CapricaSix
 
@Squirrelkiller paste :47059665 infornt of your messages pl0x
!!afk
For real this time
 
@Squirrelkiller why not
 
9:30 AM
@Squirrelkiller ur mean
 
9:49 AM
And then
all was silent
 
your mum wasnt silent ln
boom
 
i have an app on a server in IIS - i want windows auth, which works on my local machine when debugging. but on the server it just shows me a username that i think is associated with the app pool
how do i make it pick up the current authenticated user???
i have windows auth set as true in the IIS authentication settings
not sure what im missing
 
@Harry aye, i imagine she was very vocal about an unaccompanied 12 year old that was alone and afraid
 
you win this round...
 
I will win all rounds
 
9:58 AM
no
 
youre a dirty little rodent you the real loser
and youre scouse
yuk
 
@JzInqXc9Dg do you have windows auth enabled on your app as well?
@Harry Just because i reside in scouse land does not make me scouse
 
i believe?
i used the react template
 
scouse
 
9:59 AM
and i found the applicationhost.config file and made sure windows auth = true
and set anon auth = false
 
@JzInqXc9Dg in visual studio, you need to select your project & check the properties
 
publish profile?
 
10:00 AM
what are you clicking to get those settings up ?
 
right click your web project & view properties
That needs to be set to true
 
which tab?
havent found it yet
 
The Properties tab
sec
 
ya but within that
im on vs2017
i think i found a checkbox for it.
 
sec
its not a checkbox
I'm creating a new project so i can get a better screenshot
 
10:02 AM
hm. i see one for it? and anon auth (which is checked..)
ok
 
select the web project
right click and you'll get this menu
 
ya, got that
 
oh fek
.net core is different
ok
maybe it is a checkbox
 
my checkbox was under debug tho
so idk if that applies when i build
 
10:04 AM
heyho my favourite fuckers, I see you missed me dearly
 
how do I add a nuget package without using the user interface?
 
17 notifications, not bad
 
.net core is muchodifferento
 
haha
 
i mean its weird cuz it DOES work when i debug
just not once ive put it on the server
ok lemmie check that out
 
I think there's settings in that article that should solve the server problem
 
so its the lauchsettings.json file it looks like
going to try that
 
@JzInqXc9Dg report back and lemme know if that solved it
quite curious
 
will do
building now and will deploy in a sec
 
10:09 AM
@Wietlol Open Nuget Package Manager (which is basically a powershell integrated into VS) and go Install-Package YourPackageHere
 
"without using the user interface"
rather... without using VS at all
 
Or if you're not on VS but whatever strange IDE you use today, use your favourite shell, navigate to the project, and go Nuget Install YourPackageHere
Pressuming you have Nuget installed and in your PATH
 
and then Nuget Install MyPackage 1.0.0 ?
 
you can omit the version to jsut install the newest available
 
IF you use the cmd for visual studio
 
10:12 AM
you can also nav to wherever, then you'll have to add something like -project path/to/yourProject.csproj
 
wouldn't that have nuget?
 
the VS package manager automatically has nuget, yes
 
wait... I also need to specify source
 
your nuget should have a source in the settings by default
 
oh nbm
I just had to use -Version 1.0.5
> Package ""MyPackage" is already installed.
no it is not!
how do I remove?
 
10:13 AM
uninstall
 
> Unknown command: Uninstall
 
ok maybe not
remove?
 
> Nuget Uninstall MyPackage -Version 1.0.5
same with remove
 
how about nuget update or restore
restore is always good
update may be a good idea too
both may fix strange stuff
 
I need to remove it and re-install
restore doesnt do anything
 
10:16 AM
.net core project file format, it's one line/element I think
 
restore basically goes "ok what packages does hte project need and are they actually in the supposed folder"
 
So most of the time, restore does nothing
 
delete it from project.csproj (.net core) or packages.config (.net framework)
 
ya or that
 
10:17 AM
nuget delete isnt it...
 
@CaptainSquirrel negative
still getting the app pool user i think
 
i guess lunch first, then nuget
!!afk lunch
(why do I even use cap if cap doesnt use me?)
 
@JzInqXc9Dg try running it as network service
 
@JzInqXc9Dg What thell kinda name is that also you have to get the user form the request.
 
And can i ask, is it giving you a browser prompt for a username and password?
or just displaying the user its running as when you navigate to it
 
10:18 AM
@Wietlol Prolly because you want some notifications to not feel lonely while you're away
 
i tried different identity on the app pool
some of them DOES change it, but not to the window auth user
 
@Wietlol So here, have some
 
it is just displayed the user when i navigate to it
no prompt
in debug on my machine, that works fine.
 
That is super duper wierd
@JzInqXc9Dg have you tried running it at NETWORK SERVICE
?
 
i have backend code that takes that user in and runs code based on it too. works perflectly....just not on the server lol
yes
 
10:20 AM
And Windows auth is definately active on the iis site right?
ONLY windows auth
 
you just mean changing identity on the app pool?
 
yes it is
only win auth
 
anonymous is disabled?
 
yes
 
10:21 AM
hmm
 
ya not sure what else to check...
 
did you try the app pool user?
 
what do you mean?
 
did you try changing it
I'm just trying to remember the setup for the last windows auth app we had
granted it was .net framework & not core
 
ive been changing the app pool identity
maybe not user
send screen plz so i can see exactly which property youre talking about
 
10:25 AM
identity=user
 
ya ive been changing that thing like crazy
 
mkai
try that
Have you tried running it as an account that is on your domain yet?
 
oh ya
totally on the domain
wait
you mean specifying a single user account
i can try
the "connect as..." thing?
i changed that to my account
still didnt work
tried all the identity options on the app pool too
i wonder if i should just make a new .net framework app, copy the code in and try again lol
its not a big app
tho.............
fuck. theres gunna be core specific shit in it.
 

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