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mr5
2:22 AM
@AlRey how did you develop the hobby for writing or is that an innate calling?
@Squirrelkiller so you stop killing squirrels now?
slowly nyc is turning into bot
 
 
1 hour later…
3:52 AM
slowly?
 
@nyconing question because of language syntax, or because you think the change is fast?
 
4:07 AM
@ABuckau I dont understand
 
mr5
@nyconing if, for whatever reason, you abandoned your account but you left the script running, your account would completely turn into bot.
 
yes, it is bot
 
@it was pretty much innate; I always loved telling fictional stories and at the time I wanted to start writing, I had recently started reading avidly, so I decided I should make stories of my own
 
!~is you a bot?
@nyconing Nope
 
granted at this point, that was 10 years ago when I was 12
 
4:08 AM
holy
 
I did have something published when I was 16, but I later took it down
was a fantasy story partly inspired by Guardians of Ga'Hoole and Narnia
 
mr5
@nyconing have you heard any news with regards to 30th SEA Games?
@AlRey Gerard Way started also from that. Maybe you could start your own Umbrella Academy someday
 
no.... none of any of them
 
mr5
okay. when did your country hosted that event again?
 
what? did my country hosted SEA Games?
it sounds ridiculous, while my country dont even have a proper stadium for big event like SEA Games
2017 SEA Games in Malaysia
holy shit
it happens
 
mr5
4:15 AM
yeah
why are you surprised? lol
 
Philippines 2019 Southeast Asian Games
 
mr5
It's happening now. I can see a lot of athletes in my way going to office
 
I had no idea the MCR guy did comics
 
mr5
But a lot of negative news with regards to how the government is handling it. Most are just a deliberate fake news trying to paint a negative image to the current admin
@AlRey one of his comics is now a show on Netflix
 
Still better than nobody else cares about it
Malaysia participated in the 2017 Southeast Asian Games from 14 to 30 August 2017 as the host nation of the 29th edition of the Games. The Malaysian contingent was represented by 844 athletes consisting of 469 men and 375 women.The Malaysian contingent became overall Games Champion for only the second time ever in the history of the Games, amassing a total of 145 gold medals, more than the targeted figure of 111 gold medals. This figure was later reduced to 144 gold medals after a diver failed a doping test. Although this was restored again when a silver medal was elevated a gold after a Filipino...
I dont even know this is happenned, 145 gold? this is surprise
 
mr5
5:08 AM
@nyconing wow that's a lot. we barely acquire gold medals
How can I distinguish this two methods in POST request?
Or does it automatically distinguish itself based on the data input?
 
 
3 hours later…
7:57 AM
it distinguishes itself using the URI for the call
you can't call the same URI and have it do different things, unless you yourself make some sort of additional check using the input data, or you're calling using GET or something other than POST
 
morninger
Steam is selling their last batch of steam controllers
so hurry up if you need one
 
8:19 AM
It's already sold out.
 
Is yegor256 a troll?
 
@nyconing I guess the Olympics are the main stars and other people don't care so much
for other ones, people don't care so much*
 
mr5
@Neil aspnetcore3.0 says it's an ambiguous call
 
@mr5 yeah, I'll bet
my guess in 20 years time, gaming will be a legit category to compete in at the olympic games
which frankly seems to cheapen the whole thing, but it's already kind of a big deal
the question would be though, which games?
 
mr5
hey
I've heard one of the events in the SEA games is actually an esports
 
8:31 AM
@Neil Original Quake
 
mr5
(which we currently hosting)
 
@mr5 there you go, see?
just a matter of time imho
 
mr5
I'm not sure if it's real since I don't watch mainstream media
 
would love to see some Natural Selection 2 getting played
 
mr5
I only rely on blogs
 
8:33 AM
that has layers of strategy but also fps skills
to ensure fairness, you'd simply have both teams play both as aliens and marines one match
that or hearthstone
 
Esports needs a hassle tournament, knock out games
Further more, How Olympic develops games?
Or Olympic use outsourced game manufactures resources?
 
I think the game manufacturers would have to be involved
you'd need to host like a local circuit away from the internet
otherwise, you could literally affect the games simply by overloading the server at key moments
I don't think existing tournaments do this, but you'd have to for the olympic games
 
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
 
If for no other reason than you don't want anyone to call foul play
 
BTW who wanted an update on yesterday's story about these people who proactively neglected their duties?
 
8:42 AM
'morning.
@HéctorÁlvarez oh, yes, please.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Hmm? Link? :)
 
@AlRey wat
Why isn't this suprising me more?
@HéctorÁlvarez memememem
bash.org
gogogogo
 
We had a long meeting, over 40 minutes hearing people discuss the advance of the project. There are 3 tasks to be done, all 3 pretty simple provided the infrastructure had been deployed appropriately beforehand. Not harder than creating XML files from an already-defined template, handling filesystem structures, and syncing 2 databases.
Reminder about yesterday: I got a mail from several domain experts who would consistently request us (the business automation team) to analyze and develop their whole system, as well as deploy the infrastructure. Picture an end user being requested to code the program they'll be using (more or less).
So the meeting starts, we jump in and everyone's nervous on their side, both of us on business automation were pretty chill and actually wondering how this would develop.
 
The person in charge, so to say, starts asking for information about all 3 tasks, one by one. The first one had been developed long ago, and we were awaiting the deployment of the central server to actually load our work up there to be accessible by everyone, the server was being deployed in parallel by a person attending the meeting (last 5 minute rush).
 
8:48 AM
That's the fun kind of status meeting. When you can say "Oh, I've already finished all my tasks except the ones blocked by X and Y"
 
The flows are yet to be tested on the live environment, so they ask me about the status: "Are they done yet?" to which I replied "They are developed, and tested locally, but not tested on the central server", to which he replies "Right, but are they done yet?". I repeat myself, this time I express my concern about the lack of testing meaning I can't guarantee they work as expected.
A third person joins the discussion and introduces a new requirement, the flows me be called from an external source. I mute my mic and laugh. Someone responds "But why do we get these news by the end of December, and not the start of the project?", I'm still laughing.
After a long 10 minutes of this dude stuttering every 3 seconds, being asked "You were asked to review this, why did you stay silent all this time?" where he clearly hadn't even paid attention to it for a month, we move on to the second task.
How is the release note notifier flow working? To which I respond "This morning we sent you a mail explaining all our concerns, about 5 hours ago". Silence for 5 seconds, then a voice in the background "Oh he's right". The driver of this truck that is about to meet the dead curve comes back "I didn't see this until now, I'm sorry I didn't come back earlier", reads the whole mail, "Wow so... this can be done from our side?". I laugh a bit more, they seem to have opened their app...
...for the first time in their lives, because now they realized they can already build the XML and attach it to a mail themselves.
 
is this a client?
 
Another 10 minutes of heated discussion about why did they hire us for this task when it was simple enough to do on their side in 10 minutes. It was then disclosed the person in charge had no idea about how their program works.
@misha130 Yes and no. It's the client's infrastructure, but handled by a different department within the company.
So the last task arises now: syncing 2 databases. This is pretty simple, request users from LDAP, sync to local DB and send to a second one. EZ PZ.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Your business guys won't be happy about that.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Deadline is 31st Nov xD
 
8:58 AM
:O
whats the expected remaining time?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez No, about the "we don't need to pay you to do this" bit. Your business guys are probably happy taking money for doing work the client could easily do themselves.
 
btw, only 30 days in november, so I guess you have one less day :)
 
@HéctorÁlvarez I had a fellow programmer tell me that he deliberately lied to his boss about when would be the next available opportunity to be able to test something, just because all of the work is dropping on us at the last minute
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Oh yes that was a huge misshap
@Default This was supposed to be finished by 15th Nov according to the architect's first expectations.
 
@Neil Ah, the sign of a healthy work environment, when people are forced to lie about scheduling just to avoid improbable workloads and deadlines.
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9:00 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan lol
 
hmm... I just found out there is this: aws.amazon.com/blogs/compute
 
redesigns every hobby project
 
Alright I'll carry on, we're almost there.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about that. I don't think it's right to have it all pushed on us at the last minute, but I also want to do my job well
 
9:00 AM
@Neil Is that a lie or just a reasonable scheduling prediction?
 
Well, first of all, this task has been blocked for 3 weeks now, since the first time I requested LDAP to be setup at any place I could work with. Not the dev environment, not the pro environment, any would suffice, whichever they want to, and would be easy for them to setup. We had none.
 
@RoelvanUden there's a schedule for pushing to preproduction environment (not determined by my colleague but still) every monday and thursday
there are ways of getting around this and giving priority, pushing the next day if needed. Rather than doing this, he simply told his boss he couldn't test it until thursday, despite the urgency
and apparently his boss doesn't know there are ways around that
 
Thread.Sleep(100); //dont remove until Coordinator said optimize needed
2
 
good morning
 
So the person in charge is now asked by the boss "And why the hell is this happening?" to which the IT expert responds "I am trying to make this work without installing LDAP and running the setup to mirror the client environment. I thought we could just point at some other LDAP we had setup of a much older version.
 
9:02 AM
@nyconing while(sleepy) await Task.Snooze();
 
@nyconing or when feeling not so productive, after which you just tell the coordinator that you have been busy doing optimizations
 
my way of "protesting" is simply to do my 8 hours, and that's it
If I'm getting overworked, I don't feel bad at all to do my best for 8 hours and then punchout at the end of the day
I'm not going to lose sleep because there's suddenly too much to do and not enough time to do it
 
And yet, there's no LDAP anywhere to be accessed. So everyone sweating, and the conversation develops to the point where someone clearly says, in a room with 13 people: "Oh shit". That's when they knew they fucked up big time. Last resort, they decide it's time to ask the client to provide infrastructure at the last minute which should have been working on day one.
They know, the client won't be happy, so someone asks "Who has the best relationship with Mr. X (whose name I leave out for reasons)". Nobody answers. "OK, who has a good relationship with Mr. X". Silence again. Eventually the boss says "OK I'll have to do it, we are still laughing it out on our side, talking to one another about the lack of organization.
 
@Neil That's a healthy attitude.
 
> Ok, who wants their great relationship be destroyed?
- Héctor's boss
3
 
9:06 AM
So after all this we offer our help to try and fix this trash. When the meeting is about to end, the other 11 people wholeheartedly stated a big apology for the situation and expressed their gratitude.
 
@Wietlol I would love that excuse if I wasn't actually optimising code right now :-(
 
It kinda made me feel happy inside. Despite this mess, these people respect our work.
 
@John_ReinstateMonica I'm a little jelly you get to do that :p
 
And someone, for once in my whole life, acknowledged the lack of progress wasn't to be blamed on the last person in the chain, but rather to be associated to what it is.
 
@RoelvanUden This is been work that I've been intending to do for the past year or so, so I mean, it's not like I just have time to do that generally. :)
 
9:08 AM
Fin.
 
That's a great success, Hector :)
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Yeah, you see that surprisingly little from management
 
Today I uploaded the flows, but they removed my public key from the linux server, so I cannot go in there and create the SMB share to test the flows, that will be the story for the next time.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez haha, what a response
 
Aaaaahahahahah @HéctorÁlvarez
Best Case Project Management
 
9:09 AM
Not to say that developers shouldn't share the blame, but ffs, a boss can actually collectively take responsibility for the failure as well, can he not?
 
\o
\.
 
do you check the version of the client's program in a desktop app in OWIN?
 
\0
 
or any middleware like OWIN?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez I think it deserves a spot:

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9:15 AM
xD
 
@Harry
 
mr5
o/ \o /o \o
question question question
 
me me me
 
@mr5 the answer is 42.
 
mr5
Do you guys know any existing class where it has value and unit, e.g.: new DigitalValue(20, DigitalUnit.MegaBytes)
 
9:24 AM
nope
 
mr5
then, I could easily convert it to other unit type just by a single function call?
 
I do know other classes where certain units are included
not the scale of the unit tho
 
mr5
.ToMegaBytes(), .ToGigaBytes(), etc...
 
for example Metre.of(500) (500 metres)
and then you can convert it to miles, yards, feet, etc
 
mr5
can I haz a look?
 
9:25 AM
no
 
mr5
:(
 
it doesnt have Kilometres tho
or Millimetres
 
mr5
does it have miles though?
 
a few of them
in bytes, it would have bytes
and perhaps bits too
 
mr5
Bananas.of(Meters.of(500)) = 3,141,596 bananas
 
9:26 AM
Hello
 
What about nibbles?
 
everyone
 
so i signed up for wt.social
"You are number 230714 on the waiting list"
ok.
 
I assume you would want methods like toMegaBytes() and toMebiBytes()
 
mr5
@Wietlol if you are going to search in Google with my question in mind, what keywords you will type?
 
9:27 AM
@Hans1984 At least you're on the list. Lol :)
 
lol
 
@mr5 not sure
 
mr5
@Hans1984 what's that?
 
who knows how long that will take
i certainly wont donate
 
I dont really know what you want to use it for
 
9:28 AM
and i certainly wont invite other ppl
 
I have been trying to install crystal decisions version 13.0.3500.0 from nuget package
 
mr5
found it
96
Q: Does .NET provide an easy way convert bytes to KB, MB, GB, etc.?

John SmithJust wondering if .NET provides a clean way to do this: int64 x = 1000000; string y = null; if (x / 1024 == 0) { y = x + " bytes"; } else if (x / (1024 * 1024) == 0) { y = string.Format("{0:n1} KB", x / 1024f); } etc...

 
but it shows error
 
@mr5 it's brand new
WT:Social, also known as WikiTribune Social, is an American microblogging and social networking service on which users contribute to "subwikis." It was founded in October 2019 by Wikipedia cofounder Jimmy Wales as an alternative to Facebook and Twitter. The service contains no advertisements, and runs off of donations. As of mid-November 2019, it claimed over 200,000 users. == Creation and launch == Jimmy Wales created WT:Social after becoming frustrated with Facebook and Twitter for what he called their "clickbait nonsense". The format is meant to combat fake news by providing evidence based news...
 
!~convert 500m to mm
@nyconing 500000 mm
 
9:29 AM
but I get error like
 
@Hans1984 So that's what they did with my Wikipedia donation
 
Package 'CrystalReports.Engine 13.0.3500' is not found in the following primary source(s):
 
now i deserve to move up in the list for sharing
 
(presumably)
 
:(
 
9:30 AM
!~convert 500m to nm
@nyconing 500000000000 nm
 
how do i resolve this?
 
mr5
@nyconing wow. did you just do that function right now?
 
any clue?
 
I donated once for wikipedia
5€
 
no
 
9:30 AM
but that was like 5 years ago
I never donated again
and never will
 
@mr5 except that is incorrect
 
there is many many many of them, in NUGET
to do unit conversion
 
1KB = 1000B
1KiB = 1024B
 
mr5
I guess this is what I'm after
KiB is pronounced as kibi right?
 
@mr5 unless you're Microsoft...
 
mr5
9:33 AM
how about kibi bits? how does its unit look like? Kib? KiB? KB? kB?
 
@mr5 I have used that
 
mr5
@ntohl is it good?
 
EZ PZ. Yes
 
just like TimeSpan. As the answer stated.
 
9:34 AM
(names might not be 100% accurate since it is localized)
looks like KiB is an odd one out
where it is spelled kikibyte
 
Listening to the StackOverflow podcast, and I just heard: "I can't wait until PHP can run in the client" (referring to web assembly).
 
mr5
 
but the kikibyte appears to be an error, google cant really find much results for it
so, kibibyte it is
 
mr5
@Wietlol wtf?
"kiki" in our language means vagina.
 
Although it's correct that 1KB is 1000B and 1KiB is 1024B, Windows uses the 1024 calculation and reports as KB, and you probably should too because it's the most common notation
 
mr5
9:37 AM
the more you know
 
might be more appropriate
 
maybebyte.
 
more sfw
yodabyte!
 
mr5
I can have memorized those terms from nano to peta
 
@mr5 There's a good library that can do that, and a lot more. Humanizer.
 
9:38 AM
@mr5 A kikibyte sounds painful then
 
mr5
xD
 
@mr5 but what do you want to do with it?
as avner mentioned, a humanizer might be more useful for you
 
Yeah basically Windows uses the JEDEC notation
 
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yeah but it sounds like it's leaning more on string rather than numerics and its unit?
 
@mr5 kiki, do you love me..
 
9:39 AM
numerics + units = strings
 
I love Humanizer
 
mr5
I'd be needing to display video data consumption. the minimum is in megabytes
 
@mr5 It does a lot of things. You can do something like 50000.KiloBytes().Megabytes which will give you 50000 kb in mb.
 
!~convert 1mm to yolometer
@nyconing Unit yolometer not recognized.
 
mr5
@Default yeah I know. It sounds awkward when its played here around
 
9:40 AM
haha
 
var total = (10).Gigabytes() + (512).Megabytes() - (2.5).Gigabytes();
total.Subtract((2500).Kilobytes()).Add((25).Megabytes());
 
mr5
hmm
lemme search for it
 
!~convert 1mm to yoctometer
@nyconing 1.0000000000000001e+21 ym
 
they added some more features since I last played with it.
225.ToHeadingArrow();
// ↙
 
9:43 AM
!~convert 1 lightyear to picometers
 
@John_ReinstateMonica Unit lightyear not recognized. Did you mean:
* length: light-year
 
!~convert 1 light-year to picometers
 
@John_ReinstateMonica 9.460527999999999e+27 pm
 
@mr5 you can do something like this
var videoData = 382_094_890; // (382MB)
Console.WriteLine(videoData.Bytes().Humanize("#.00")); // 364,39 MB
there should be some way to disable JEDEC tho
 
@Wietlol There's even a Kotlin version of Humanizer!
 
9:45 AM
Humanizer is everywhere
java, c#, c, javascript, php, python, ruby, frigging erlang
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan is there a kotlin specific one?
or just the Java version?
 
var human = new Cat().Humanize()
 
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan how much kb does it add to your app?
 
@nyconing I'm not sure i like the mental images that that produces
 
mr5
you know, app size is also a critical part in our dev't
 
> Humanizer.jvm is an adaptation of the Humanizer framework for .Net which is made for the jvm and is written in Kotlin.
 
9:47 AM
oh you people and your file sizes
 
@mr5 Dunno. Last I checked, I wasn't distributing my app on floppy disks.
 
mr5
we're thinking of 3G that is why
 
oh, I see
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Loser
(joke)
 
@mr5 what is 3G?
your app size?
or 2012's internet connection stuff?
 
mr5
9:48 AM
our competitor is only at 15MB but our app is already at 40MB (PlayStore)
 
@John_ReinstateMonica We've done careful market analysis and discovered clients don't like installing from 487 floppy disks. Stupid clients.
 
but your competitor doesnt have localizations and humanizations :D
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan 😂
 
mr5
You guys wouldn't get it. I'm on a shithole country and internet sucks here
 
@John_ReinstateMonica which image
 
9:49 AM
Reminds me of installing Windows from floppy disks.
 
wow, good name
 
mr5
Plus, we need to deal with low end devices
 
@mr5 Aren't you using xamarin for your app?
 
@nyconing I imagined cats with human features, like opposable thumbs
 
mr5
yeah
 
mr5
plus, it's Xamarin too
 
mr5
xD
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan lol
 
Nicholas Cat, nice
 
9:49 AM
I am in the netherlands, Russia proxies all their technology in the netherlands because our infrastructure is pretty much #1
 
Yeah you shouldn't be worrying about extra size some assemblies add
About 30 of that 40mb is xamarin
 
mr5
What is wrong with avnir. He used to be so serious all the time
 
if you live in ze netherlands and dont have 1Gib internet speed, you are a loser
 
My app is ~32mb
 
9:50 AM
I though it was a human having cats features
 
Oh god not again
 
mr5
@Wietlol 3G internet speed
 
We need to implement a ban on chains of animal picture spam
 
here we are, talking about 6g
 
@mr5 Xamarin adds quite a lot of overhead, doesn't it?
 
9:51 AM
!~convert 100Mib to MiB
@nyconing 12.5 MiB
 
Who's talking about 6G?
We aren't even close to doing 5G properly yet
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan disturbing
 
mr5
@CaptainObvious did you use d8+r8 in Android with link all? and for iOS, did you link all assemblies also? if so, do you have the list of assemblies to be linked against?
 
@CaptainObvious USA wants to skip 5G
 
I use d8 but not r8, r8 kept breaking things for me
 
9:52 AM
@nyconing You mean u s ~gay~ something non-but-hurty-but-still-passive-aggressive-mkay?
:shots_fired:
 
I think you need to format it like U S Gay
 
Yeah
I noticed xD
 
@Squirrelintraining Reminder: any usages of the word "gay" as a general slur will get you kicked.
 
@nyconing did you use a library?
 
mr5
hey, I said gay yesterday iirc
 
9:54 AM
Aww Avner, you are no fun anymore.
 
!~convert 100Gib to GB
 
@mr5 Well, I wasn't around to kick you then, was I?
 
@Wietlol 13.4218 GB
 
mr5
Nov 22 at 7:07, by mr5
those English I usually found in 9gag:
"lol ur mom have big gay"
 
oh, nice
 
9:54 AM
@Squirrelintraining If by "fun" you mean "accepting of homophobic slurs", then no, I'm not fun.
 
mr5
nope. it was a week ago. damn memory loss
 
That conversion is wrong
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan 'tis but a reference to Monty Python
 
@CaptainObvious It was relevant to the conversation.
 
9:55 AM
gay is not slur
 
Should be 97.65GB
 
🦅 excuse me
 
mr5
fun fact: nyc calculates it in realtime. she's just pretending it's a bot that does that
 
💥🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
 
@Hans1984 Used in a negative way it is
 
9:56 AM
Everything's a slur if you're brave drunk enough
 
@Hans1984 stunning and brave
 
yes
 
"That man is gay. He's in a romantic relationship with a man." ✔
Using the word as an adjective for something negative ❌
 
So what you're saying is UR MOM GAY isn't a slur
 
@mr5 Maybe I started? Or maybe I never did at all?
 
9:58 AM
C# is gay, change my mind
 
Children, behave
 
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Solving the worlds problems, one human at a time
 
unnnghhh I wanna thwomp
 
aw
 
@Squirrelkiller I need some info regarding nuget package install issue
 
9:59 AM
@Wietlol I mean that sounds kind of sexy in a weird way
 
0
Q: Nuget package install command throws error : Install-Package Crystal Decision -Version 13.0.3500

ZMAXI have been trying to install Crystal Decision version 13.0.3500.0 into my local code But I am getting error like **Install-Package : Package 'CrystalReports.Engine 13.0.3500' is not found in the following primary source(s): 'http://nexus.it.volvo.net/repository/nuget-drs-ms,C:\Prog...

 
@misha130 whatever floats your boat
 
@MadaraUchiha We always do madara-senpai :o
 
any clue to solve this error
 
> Asked 3 minutes ago
 

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