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04:03
!~live
@nyconing I'm not dead! Honest!
@CaptainObvious software optimization is expensive, but ram is much cheaper
a normal server can install 8 dimms per core, while two core was installed, total installable RAM are up to 1TB
04:19
my coordinator said same thing about memory usage. they said there is no worry while ram can be added further and its cheap. much cheaper than my salary
I used 1/5 of them to build bot on chat.so btw
 
3 hours later…
07:21
morning
Yay! My post was pinned
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
mr5
mr5
why is everyone not yet awake
because earth isnt flat
Reeeeeeeeeee
HERETIC
IT'S FLAT IT IS!
07:37
amend, it isnt flat in 3 dimensions
counter-amend, it is flat !
counter-counter-counter-amend, it is flat !
honestly shouldn't joke about the earth being flat
people are beginning to actually think we're being serious
earth flat, sun manmade, moon manmade, stars are bad pixel, leap year leap second are designed for maintenance
07:44
@Neil not just beginning.
@HéctorÁlvarez I can't listen to the song, but the video is hilarious
reminds me of that video someone made recently with all the early internet memes
Haven't seen that one
AaaAaaaaaAAAAaaaaaaaaah I hate it when git screws up your repository because of capitalization mismatches.
They alluded to a lot of the trending internet memes in the early days, and they actually got the very same people to do the video
@Neil It won a grammy for best video that year, though I think a different nominee should have won.
07:50
there was some serious dedication for that video though
I can't imagine how much that would have cost
I think they won because everyone was all "omg it's 2009 and we don't know anything about internet culture but hey weezer did a video with the chocolate rain guy and the star wars kid so let's give'em a grammy"
also the numa numa guy, the britney spears guy, the mentos experiment guys
the freakin' south carolina pageant girl who basically got famous for making herself look stupid, actually reprises her role
@Neil Did they actually collaborate with some of those people? LOL
internet culture or not, it was impressive af imho
I felt it was impressive as a project, but did not result in a particularly compelling or interesting video. It was a lot of pointing at the screen and saying "hey, they got that guy!".
07:52
@HéctorÁlvarez I thought it was the original, but it can't be, because they interact with the band in many cases
They had to bring in the guy and recreate the video that made him or her famous
and all that that entails resource-wise
Yeh that's what I was thinking, it's at the point where either the video editor is godlike or there were actual people there
I was impressed, at least from the video point of view
To me, it looked like they edited themselves into some videos, but brought in quite a few people, too.
@HéctorÁlvarez quite good actually
Not like gangnam style good
but i like
Dude, the toilet pees the guy
and there's a dancing duck
07:56
In soviet russia..
Gangnam style still is greater
In randomness
And in greatness
well, I think it was more about trolling
I think if there was a theme for your video, it was that the unexpected would happen
this one's just a different flavor
no farting in a chick's ass
They don't really seem to take themselves too seriously, which is always something I like in bands
On their wikipedia page, there's a picture of the band with all the members including Olympia, and my god is she small by comparison
08:22
@Neil Oh the old stuff is in there mainly
I was thinking of something more like this old classic here:
Maybe meme wouldn't be the appropriate term in my case
@Squirrelintraining I'll bet his guitar forever smells like leeks now
@Neil Mostlikely
The band name is the gag quartet but they're just three people.. lol?
ic what u did there
08:48
@nyconing I'm thinking you mean per processor, as if I could install 8 DIMMS (which in my case are 8GB each) I would have 2TB of ram
Whereas I actually have 12 DIMMs per CPU, for a total of 24 sticks of 8GB. Except one died last night :(
how inefficient is your software
He needs to load all that juicy 80K porn into memory.
Nah it's just my home server for playing with
Maybe he tried to scale out a JVM
Nah I'd need the extra stick working for that
mr5
mr5
who among you guys preordered Tesla Cybertruck?
Do you wish to download this corporative software pack? Yes
0/6.8GB - 4 hours left...
Dafuq
64G per dimm?
Boss meeting last week was funny, he was genuinely unaware of our situation, came here like "Guys, I have fiber at home, it's cheap, why is there no fiber connection in this place?"
Because the company is paying only for 10MB ADSL
mr5
mr5
how much does it cost?
09:08
which
What, the RAM sticks or the interwebs connection
ahoy mateys o/
go away kieran
mr5
mr5
the 10MB ADSL
:(
@Harry y u so r00d
09:21
@mr5 I don't know, but cheap AF
mr5
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan tell me how did those companies recognize you?
@mr5 Recognize?
mr5
mr5
@HéctorÁlvarez in our case, that speed cost about 26.78 euro
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan cuz you said they are hiring you?
@mr5 I went to their job posting pages. Found a job listing. Sent my CV. Interviewed. Interviewed again. Interviewed again (Google likes interviewing).
mr5
mr5
09:26
That's awesome!
I'm very jealous
What position did you apply for?
Is this the C++ you're talking about?
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I read an article on how Google interviews go. IIRC they like getting each person from a different perspective (technical, analytic, HR, etc.) and they simply elaborate a summary of their impression. Then these documents are relayed to a tribunal that judges the person with nothing more than the estimations of their "experts".
With Google, at least here in Israel, they have a weird hiring process. You send your CV to a generic "software engineer" job posting. You have an initial technical interview. Then, if you pass, you get a second round of interviews - for me it was a 6-hour thing, three coding interviews, one system design interview, and one "soft skills" interview. These are all done by random people in Google, not related to the teams that are actually hiring.
If you pass all these interviews, you get a third round, this time meeting with team leaders that are actually hiring. This is to establish a match and lets both you and them state their preference.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan This is the reason why even if i could get a job at google, I wouldn't want it
They also did the reverse in order to see how effective this was, one day they sent a bunch of applications to be reviewed, all of them were declined as too bad. It was later revealed that those applications were their own, which means they wouldn't have hired themselves.
here, companies don't even hire you directly, due to a massive headache with hiring and firing people, so there exist "consultancy agencies" which hire you and "lend" your services to a company
09:30
After that, the recommendations and impressions of everyone along the way are sent to a committee that approves or rejects the candidate.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan the same in ny
because google did transferring instead of firing, google control the employees input by multi capability, more capability = higher chances
@CaptainSquirrel i am apology
Hi, apology
09:32
hey
@Neil That's pretty common here, but there are advantages and disadvantages - you get contractors either when you need a whole bunch of junior devs for a project, or a handful of experts.
@Hans1984 what does the evolution look like?
mr5
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan how is the interview? Did you feel intimidated or did you feel very confident? Are you nervous at all? Have you stuttered? Is it a one question one answer? Did you talk about unrelated things?
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan nobody gets hired outside of this system here at least
@Squirrelintraining Arnold Schwarzesquirrel
09:33
@Squirrelintraining its already the final form of squirrels
which is all fine and good by me. It means they could "let me go" in an instant, but I'd still have a job
@Neil There are some places (and some precedents here as well) that have laws saying that if you're employed via a contractor for more than X months, that you are legally entitled to the full set of privileges that an employee does.
mr5
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan are you really a confident guy irl? Like, when you speak, "everybody listens to you" kinda person?
It's illegal to bypass labor protection laws by getting "consultants" that are simply employees in disguise.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan that sounds nice. I wish I had that :)
09:34
9 months to be exact
and then there is a period of non hire or something
consultants at this bank are numerous, and despite doing much of the work, we're often treated like second class citizens in many regards
@mr5 I'm pretty confident when in my element. I've been doing this for a while, and "fake it till you make it" is a great life hack. I can give a lecture or a talk, and I've interviewed a lot over the years, mostly in low-stress situations where my job isn't really on the line.
anyway, this cold is not going away
I never had flue like symptoms for this long
so weird
I had to brush up on a lot of algorithms because Google asks everyone algo questions, even if you'll never have to do BDS on a balanced binary tree in your actual job, and I never actually studied most of these things formally.
you can reason through most of that stuff anyway
But the interviews weren't too bad. They were exhausting, but not stressful - the interviewers were pretty positive and never felt like they're trying to get you to fail.
@Hans1984 It's not even my final form
Quite the opposite. If you get stuck somewhere (which happens) and you know how to communicate it properly (don't get lost in solving, start saying things like "oh, I need to find out how to search this at less than O(N) time but I don't remember quite how to do that", they'll usually give you the next step you're missing, just so you can keep going with the problem.
09:37
@Squirrelintraining :O
my friend who got hired by Amazon said what impressed him most was that everything was scheduled down to the minute, and they'd tell you how long they'll talk about this about that, and how much time you have to talk about yourself
I have a question for ppl with their own website
he was given a strict guideline about what is cv was supposed to be and what he was supposed to talk about in the interview
you are supposed to use pictures from the internet for your website
did you ever get in legal trouble because of that ?
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan did you have your google interview yet?
09:40
for example i write somethign about basketball and use some nba pics how likely is it to get in trouble
I guess not very likely since noone knows my site anyway right ?
@Hans1984 they'll ask you to take it down before they'll take you to court over something
@Wietlol Yeah, a few weeks ago.
alright
they'll start with the nice request, then they'll threaten, and threaten some more, then threaten still yet again
then I think I can risk it
09:40
oh, I missed that part then
@Hans1984 You can easily find free-to-use images.
it would take a good bit before they'd take you to court over such things, because it is expensive
also its very unlikely they ll find out anyway since its such a unknown site
thought, last time you spoke about it, that you had the Microsoft one but still had to do the Google one
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan do you know a good source(site) for that ?
09:41
@Hans1984 You can use Google image search to find creative-commons licenses images. Same with image sites like Flickr (is that still a thing?). I used them both a lot.
okay,thx
because after a million years in IT I finally decided to make my own site :D
also you should all be using duckduckgo.com rather than google
that is all
@Wietlol Yeah, I'm waiting for Google's hiring committee, which is supposed to meet *checks* in about 15 hours or so.
ah
I always tend to imagine people losing their minds watching the clock make every minute up to that "deadline"
but for you, I actually imagine the deadline would pass and you wouldnt even notice it
Oh, believe me, I notice.
09:44
hmm... for which reason?
Because even though I've been in the biz for a while, and even though I am pretty confident in my skills and ability, it's still a very meaningful career moment for me.
but... still the nerves? or just important enough to keep an open eye on it?
whats the stack in google for you?
I know some people tho that would notice... but only because they know the exact moments and durations of every single event throughout the day
@Wietlol Definitely nerves. Under control, but it's still been a stressful couple of months.
(It's a long process)
@misha130 If I start at google, it'll be on the CloudVPN product, one of the network offerings for the Google Cloud Platform.
09:47
oh networking, nice
> so, this morning at 8:58:34, when I arrived at work, I immediately got drawn into this meeting, which, imho, lasted for way longer than it could have been, we were in there for 14 minutes and 52 seconds.
but anyway, only 24 seconds after it, I got my coffee... etc etc etc
I mean like... I dont even remember my lunch time
but I also dont remember my age...
@Wietlol Ah, no, I'm a bit more grounded than that. But it's in the back of my mind all the time
might be a problem with me
I have been "42" for the past decade, I believe
assuming I believe my own statements that is
@Wietlol if it makes you feel any better, I have to check what my age is if i'm filling it out for a form
V.7
V.7
Hey all o/
What the heck?
09:50
@CaptainSquirrel I think that started happening to me after the age of 25 or so
there is one week per year in which I know my age... which spans from my birth date to 7 days after it
I got ID'd in a bar pub the other day
in any of the other (approximately) 51 weeks, I have to do the calculations
@V.7 what is this gif
@Neil Yea, i'm 25 now
09:50
I was like wtf and it took me a moment to press it
I'll be 26 in april
V.7
V.7
@misha130 Current VS behaviour
@CaptainSquirrel welcome to the rest of your life. it gets worse from here :)
@V.7 what behavior are we looking at?
09:51
@V.7 what's the problem?
V.7
V.7
@Wietlol Oddly highlighted double quotes
I think its so you can replace them together on need
Did you seen that first time?
Not odd at all. You select one end of it, you can see the other end of it. Does exacctly the same thing wioth curly braces in normal cs
V.7
V.7
I mean, shouldn't a highlighting be removed on selecting other place of code?
@Neil it gets worse from 30 on
I've reached the point where it's legitimate to round my age up or down 2-3 years.
from there it goes downhill fast..
real fast
elelelelee
I DO NOT WANT TO BE OLD
THANKS
I WISH TO STAY A YOUNG BOI
09:54
It was copied from stack, that's why the code is garbage
i never thought things would be this terrible in my mid 30s when I was 20
Not @Harry young, but young like i am now
@CaptainSquirrel tell god
@nyconing There is no god
Nobody wants to be as young has harry
09:54
there is
If there is a god, he's a horrid person
now I have a ton of health issues and have to take 3 medications every morning
I though only old ppl get those issues when I was 20
We're going into the
For example: Donnie is president
3 is fine
so enjoy the last 4 years of your life
V.7
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel Old women has knowlendge in one interesting thing, though
09:56
@CaptainSquirrel
I take 6 already at pre school
@Hans1984 the day i have to take pills every day is the day i will consider myself old
@nyconing 6 medications ?
:(
pills
not include inhaler
and these days ?
09:57
now, no.
yeah one is inhaler because of my asthma
other 2 is pills
Damn, this place has more druggies than Birkenhead
@CaptainObvious Also more druggies than the center of town
i passed on the inhaler though
im only taking the 2 pills
and one is temporarly , hopefully
so in the end it will be only one thing
if things go right
but life sucks anyway
\o/
so theres only cat and squirrel pics left..
so theres only cat and squirrel pics left..

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