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10:00 AM
ALL CAP = PROBLEM SOLVED
 
MyFavouriteDalDTO
 
 
caprica
:(
 
mr5
I'm stuck. help :(
 
Hi, stuck, I'm dad.
 
10:08 AM
did you get f.e.a.r. yet ?
 
who me?
 
no, mr5
 
@ntohl MY_fAvOrItE-dalDto
 
mr5
@Hans1984 nope. got scared last night with that Outlast 2
I feel like I don't want to play it anymore
 
:o
 
mr5
10:13 AM
or maybe, I could in daylight
 
okay
 
mr5
well, I'm not screaming or something like that but I just don't feel safe lol
 
you should try
layers of fear 1
 
holy hell, they came out with a layers of fear 2
 
@Wietlol I have seen this kind of case usage. DalDTO, but not MY_fAvOrItE-dalDto
 
10:19 AM
you know those days when you are sick ?
but not dead sick
and you think should i go to work or not ?
and then you go to work and regret it..
my approach is if you are not so sick that you have to stay in bed do everything as usual
work,sport whatever
it sometimes backfires though
 
if there's an off chance that staying at home will prevent me from being dead sick, and assuming I don't have pressing things to do in the office, I'll take a sick day
usually I'm fine the next day, but I suppose I'll never know if I would have been fine regardless
 
yeah but for me its more like if i stay at home i feel even worse
at work you are atleast distracted
and also walking to work and back can help
 
@ntohl I enforce proper camelCase or PascalCase
so, MyFavoriteDalDto
no need for shouting ABBRS
 
the problem is I have this cold symptons for over 2 weeks now
waiting for it to ether go away or totally shut me down
so ill have to force the issue
 
@Hans1984 well if you're regretting having gone in to work, then consider the issue forced
you should probably plan on calling in sick tomorrow
 
10:24 AM
its like this cold is indecisive
:D
hm should i shut this guy down or go away?
hmmm
:(
sweating a lot helps the most imo
you have to sweat this shit out of your body
 
sweating isn't really a cold symptom
 
I dont know how it is in your country but in germany its a pain in the ass to call in sick
 
I dont know how it is in your country, but in the netherlands, we dont get sick
 
fever is a cold symptom
 
you have to get an certificate from your doctor for every day you are sick
and get it to your employer
 
10:27 AM
every country it is like that
 
I doubt that
 
mr5
do you guys sometimes fake your sick leave just because you just don't feel like going to work?
 
no
I used to years ago, sometimes
but now i go to work even half-dead
 
mr5
how old is you if you don't mind me asking?
 
work from home :DDD
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 
10:29 AM
Im doing way worse when i sta yat home because all the issues pile up then
so i only stay at home with a fever or something
 
you just need to manage yourself better at home
 
35
 
I work 6 months from ny at home, I wake up at like 6am go running and take lots of breaks
its much more chill
 
how we handle sick leave is changing from company to company
 
new york ?
 
10:31 AM
yea
 
wow
great
 
we should get paper from the doctor, but companies with common sense doesn't make you to do it
 
things move different in new york
 
In italy, the doctor actually gives you an id which is traceable, and you're obliged to give that as proof that you're sick
 
yea its much more active
 
10:32 AM
@ntohl tell that my employe..
 
though many doctors are corrupt, and you could just call one up on the phone and he goes, "yeah yeah, here you are"
 
certificate on the first day
 
"just come in when you feel better. If it's a week go see the doctor"
 
thats not the norm
you seem to have a very layed back employer
 
my thoughts always come back to the same idea behind why you should be able to work from home. If they didn't trust you to do the work, what are we even talking about here?
 
10:34 AM
I think it also depends on your standing in the company
 
if they don't trust you're sick when you say you are, then there can be no work agreement
 
if your are a well achieved,important employee things might be different
because they depend on you
the balls in your corner
 
true, but they should depend on you even if you're just starting out
 
if the company so dependant on you they should not force you to feel pressured
 
you're more of an investment at first, but still.. if the investment is no longer worth your time, you've wasted all the time up to that point
 
10:36 AM
like if you feel like I should go in half dead, you are producing with half capabilities, just because of the pressure
 
absolutely.
there needs to be a mutual respect there. And largely this has been handled up to this point as, "Come to work and work 8 hours, so I know if there's something to do, you'll do it"
I'd like to think that in the future, this dynamic will change
I don't know of anybody who genuinely dedicates all 8 hours at work towards a task
 
mr5
var obj = new Something<(CorrectType)>(params)
 
in the long run I only want to work from home
 
even when I'm doing something, most times I'm waiting for compilation or waiting for deployment
 
mr5
argh. if that is just possible
 
10:39 AM
and quit on office work completly
no more co-workers
no more boss
nothing
 
you'll always have a boss I think
 
freelancing is pretty bad
 
mr5
@Neil like 8 hours straight of coding with no talking?
 
@misha130 it depends
 
10:40 AM
well you are supposed to be the accountant the developer, the sales department etc
all the hats possible
 
@Neil as long as I dont have to meet him a single day in my life
we re good
 
@mr5 having so much to do that during compilation, you're also doing something else because you have literally that much to do
@Hans1984 that may very well be possible
 
mr5
yeah but most of the time waiting of that compilation, I spend it on browsing things
not really work related
 
I cant work in this small companies anymore
I always worked in small companies because i thought its good
but its not
 
mr5
@Hans1984 there's a lot of companies now who offers remote
 
10:41 AM
i need anonymity
 
mr5
even in my shithole country, we have remote work that pays above average salary
 
you only get this in a big company
 
I am working remotely :D
 
mr5
pics of your house Wiet
 
is this why you are always memeing?
 
10:42 AM
office is in the netherlands, but I am working remotely from vietnam
 
mr5
and you inside
 
but, I am inside the office
 
mr5
o.O
 
I am working double remotely
 
mr5
so wiet is a vietnamese all along
 
10:42 AM
I will have to move
you dont get good jobs in this small ass city
 
at least... according to net traffic
 
or get a remote job
 
I live in a small ass city
and the office is in that same small ass city
 
sucks
 
most IT offices in the netherlands are
 
10:44 AM
Also in home office today. Great for people with autism ;)
A question:
or var minOccurrenceInIntervalUrls = urlsInInterval.Where(x => x.Count() >= 5).ToList();
 
where is the cpt
arrrr
 
pirates work on small ass ships
 
help!!! :)
 
@kame where's your question?
 
5 lines above
 
10:57 AM
13 mins ago, by kame
A question:
here it is Niel
@kame Answer:
 
null
 
A NullPointerException was thrown at line Chatroom.getAnswer(Question)
 
:D
 
oh Niel, you fully embraced Jaba
you even start giving Java exceptions in C# chat room
Am so proud
 
I'm not a C# programmer, never have been
 
10:59 AM
you arent?
what you doin here?
 
So a novice in C# isn't welcome here?
 
if you are a novice in C#, doesnt that make you a C# programmer?
 
Does it? Do you have to be paid professionally as a C# programmer, novice or otherwise to be in here?
 
you dont have to be a professional programmer to be a programmer
that is why it is called a "professional" programmer
because you are a programmer by profession
 
yeah, you kinda do. That's the difference between a programming enthusiast and a programmer
 
11:03 AM
@Neil What could be wrong with --> var result = mylist.Where(x => x.Count() > 3).ToList(); ?
 
it's a job. Can you call yourself a carpenter if you do it purely for fun? Probably wouldn't be a precise term, no
 
everything could be wrong
it could not map to your business requirements
 
or an electrician? or a banker?
 
it could be that Count(), ToList() or Where() arent methods
it could be that you are using it outside of a code block scope
 
there exist terms for people who program for fun and not in a professional context
 
11:04 AM
it could be that you arent even using C#
a lot of things could be wrong
that is why we need context
 
:)
 
are you having an epistemological discussion?
 
and not being a C# programmer, I would tend to agree
 
a programmer is someone who programs programs
> a person who writes computer programs.
I should leave it to other people to write defintions for words
 
adaequatio intellectus nostri cum re
 
11:07 AM
I found the answer. I was wrong.
 
a person who programs for fun is a programmer hobbyist
 
no, you were kame
 
or a programmer enthusiast
if you tell someone that you're a programmer, they assume you're paid to program
 
@Wietlol I am kame now, but was/were wrong
 
mooar bread
 
11:08 AM
i see
 
MOOAR
yaay
 
I start to understand this chatroom. :)
 
 
11:10 AM
@kame good
 
@kame as you can see, we're very professional here
 
everyone except Niel is professional
niel is just programmer
 
@Neil Not obvious for a beginner. ;)
 
11:11 AM
because niel doesnt get paid for writing C#
 
nope
I still get paid for programming though
 
Oh god
 
ok , enough
 
Does anyone aware of how to convert Generic.List to Threading.Tasks.Task ?
 
but the question remains. Where is cpt ?
 
11:16 AM
@HussainSam You can't
 
Task.From(List);
got em`
 
Task<QueryResult<MyTask>> task = restObj.ExecuteQuery<PatientTask>(query); Here ExecuteQuery returns List<T>
 
ahoy mates !
It's me cpt squirrel
dont you recognize me
o/
 
@misha130 Let me check, thanks
 
xddddd
 
11:27 AM
use Task.FromResult(list)
From doesnt exist for me
so I assume neither for you
 
I mean technically you could Task.Run(() => restObj.ExecuteQuery<PatientTask>(query));
 
12:03 PM
Fck Vodafone
There I've said it.
 
there you said it
 
There he said it
 
12:23 PM
bacc
 
What's wrong with Vodafone
 
I haven't any issues with Vodafone here.
 
Me neither
 
I've had
Never again.
Here in Spain they used to be terrible
I believe they changed direction and now they are a good company
but I don't care, the damage is done
VF is shit
 
12:39 PM
My wife was a loyal vodafone client for many years, and when her plan expired and we asked for another, she was given no preferential treatment
full rates.. worse than the competition
so we switched
 
My good experience might be due to the fact that I still use a prepaid card.
 
wow well
 
you know what I haven't heard in a long time?
Valve making a new Half-Life
 
That ain't gonna happen
at least now while people are still hyped about it
 
bruh
look it up
 
12:45 PM
better to die a legend than to come back underperforming
 
bruh
 
I don't even see a reason for HL3 to be born actually
 
You either die a hero or you see yourself become the villain
 
You ask people to look something up and they deliberately keep themselves ignorant
 
I wouldn't expect it to be a new half life
 
12:48 PM
@HéctorÁlvarez Hah
 
My guess is they're pushing half life as a means to promote their moving into VR
 
>sees that the game is clearly about half-life
>"I don't think it's really half-life"
 
I like VR. I like the potential and the physical of doing a game. But we should also be honest and admit that any game designed around locomotion, teleportation or thumb movement in any way, feels very fucking weird and awful. Seeing as they want to make an HL-based game, I expect movement... and it'll suck.
 
I'm not going to hype myself up about it
 
Stationary 180/360 games are by far the best for me to enjoy VR.
 
12:57 PM
I'm moreso just excited that Valve is making a half-life game at all
 
true, maybe this is the start of something
I think every game company in the world would kill to have a title like half life 3 that they could easily sell millions of copies
and yet the irony being that they don't need to make such a game
 
@CaptainObvious Oh we had some internet issues and their support line sucks ballz
@RoelvanUden Try using WIlhelmTel and then switch to Vodafone cuz you moved to a new district and they don't serve there.
WIlhelmTel is like 20% cheaper, can be cancled to the end of the next month, has a super support hotline (they tell you how long 2 wait and you can use the numpad and none of this crappy music where 30% gets losst due to networking) and a great service over all.
Having problems?
We'll send a guy over in the evening!
Argh I miss them!
 
1:14 PM
Is that related to the wilhelm scream?
 
@Squirrelintraining I don't know what WIlhelmTel is.
 
1:43 PM
The best network company in northern germany
 
Another day programming in go and asking where are my generics
 
@misha130 If you need to ask where your genitals are, I have bad news for you
 
not at that stage yet but oh boy brother i am getting there
 
yea they're in your pants
 
thanks
 
2:00 PM
@AlRey how did you know?
 
yeah, what makes you think I'm wearing pants?
 
cause I've seen them
and I've given a nickname for every appendage
 
2:15 PM
The male is called Peter
Peter Enis
 
your parents would be jerks if they named you Peter if your last name was Enis
 
@Neil You mean, they'd be hilarious
 
Depends on if you're Peter or not
 
2:35 PM
obviously I would change my name then
I suppose I would go for Paul
 
Or Johnson
 
whats wrong with W.enis
 
oh damn -- I just call them coconut, cobra, and cantaloupe
 
who?
 
you
 
2:38 PM
that's what I call the appendaces
 
nvm. dumb. wenis is a word too :p
oh. him. nvm two tomes
oh. him. nvm two times.
 
3:05 PM
yea I heard you the first time
 
but did you also hear him the first tome?
 
3:21 PM
Does Rider have an equivalent of Visual Studio's Roslyn Syntax Visualizer?
 
syntax visualizer?
 
Yeah, it shows a breakdown of the AST as roslyn interprets it. I'm dipping into code analyzers / code fixes
 
I dont know actually
 
I might have a reason for using VS from time to time then.
Initial investigation did not yield any results for me
 
I dont see why I would want it
 
3:28 PM
It's useful for getting what symbols are already there in the AST when designing a code fix
 
I suppose
 
Since I'm new to it I don't currently have a deep knowledge of what's available
I'm sure as I get more experience with it I'll be able to map things out in my head, but until then I'll lean on whatever tools I can
 
4:10 PM
any huge differences between Rider and VS 2019 when working on ASP .NET Core, for example?
@AlRey it's ok, I guess
 
I will not fear technical debt.
For fear the mind-killer.
I will write my debt.
I will let it pass through me.
When the feature has published,
there shall be no debt.
Only I will remain.
 
LOOOL
Is it worth reading all of the Dune books? I read the first one, but the next being so much later in time period turned me off
 
I mean, a lot of people say so
 
I read all. 2 times
worth. it.
 
I've tried a few times but got bogged down between books 3 and 4
 
4:23 PM
but that's my personal preference
than it's maybe not for you
 
It's great for references though
 
I have a required field in my model, on a specific condition i set the value of the field if its null, however my modelstate is still invalid, how can i get around this?
 
>Trying to help without knowing jack about what you're talking about
How is your modelstate invalid? Exceptions thrown somewhere?
 
V.7
@Sidney "Praise the Sun"
 
\[T]/
 
V.7
4:31 PM
\[T]/
 
ill try to explain it as best i can, so my required field is TimeSpent on a condition i set the value of timespent to 0. then checking if the modelstate is valid returns false, i will knock up a basic code structure
 
Is "checking if the modelstate is valid" a homegrown validation process, or is it part of some nicely maintained framework?
 
if(condition)
	obj.TimeSpent=0
if(ModelState.IsValid)
{
	//do stuff
}
else
{
	//do other stuff
}
var errors = ModelState
.Where(x => x.Value.Errors.Count > 0)
.Select(x => new { x.Key, x.Value.Errors })
.ToArray();

i put this in the else section and it told me time spent was the issue
 
So is ModelState a class you (or your team) has written, or is it part of a bigger framework? I don't recognize it, but I'm not well versed in all the various frameworks either.
 
what did the robot say to the centipede?
 
4:37 PM
@Sidney modelstate is part of MVC docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/…
 
"stop being a centipede!"
 
I mean, I'd be curious if the validations being run in the "IsValid" function are something that you (or your org) wrote and maybe try and track that down.
 
@Sidney no it's definitely not anything wrote here
 
You can't change the ModelState AFAIK
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ When it tells you timespent is the issue does it give any other clues as to what the validation error may be?
Quick googling suggests it might be something as wonky as weird type juggling. stackoverflow.com/questions/881281/…
 
4:43 PM
Probably bad idea to set Required filed to null. Maybe set it to default value instead?
 
And did you say you were setting to to zero or to null?
 
What happens if you set it to 1? Everything go through hunky dory?
 
nope, any value that is set via the code it still doesnt agree with
 
4:50 PM
That seems... Odd
 
@Sidney ikr
 
Maybe set a breakpoint right after you set the value to zero, then use the water window or debugger to see if the value is actually zero?
 
ive been stepping through the whole process, it does get set
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My only suggestion would be maybe you forgot to associate with ModelState object with your call object or something silly like that -- maybe hope someone with MVC experience joins.
 
im thinking its probably not possible the way im doing it, as the initial missing timespent value already adds an error to the modelstate error collection
ill try removing the modelstate error after setting timespent to 0 stackoverflow.com/a/7424204/7147233
ok this works
if(condition)
{
	obj.TimeSpent=0
	if (ModelState.ContainsKey("TimeSpent"))
		ModelState["TimeSpent"].Errors.Clear();
}
if(ModelState.IsValid)
{
	//do stuff
}
else
{
	//do other stuff
}
 
 
1 hour later…
6:07 PM
this might get nasty if you get other errors beside the timespent. What could possibly happen, is that whenever you change anything in "obj" model, ModeState becomes invalid. So, what you could potentially do is set obj to a new object with no reference, and use that in further calculations (inside of if(ModelState.IsValid){ })
 
V.7
What do you think about: pastecode.xyz/view/1238582d#L98
?
 
Yup, that's some code there
 
your Dialog_1ViewModel properties make me angry. Why are they lowercase? >:(
 
V.7
@ukie_ You mean public int data?
You're right. Should be uppers.
'll change
 
yes, you should :P
 
6:30 PM
why is my comment from a week ago in the top comments now? ._.
 
the one about JVM
 
V.7
Sorry, Sir, who's JVM?
 
I have a git question are tags branch specific or repository specific?
and when making releases do you create tag within the feature branch first then merge to master? or merge first then tag on master?
 
V.7
@erotavlas Branch
 
6:38 PM
but it wont let you create a tag with the same name on another branch which is why I thought they were repository wide
 
V.7
129
Q: Do Git tags only apply to the current branch?

GerardoI'm currently working with a repository that has multiple branches. When I create a tag, does that tag refer to the then-current branch? In other words: Whenever I create a tag, do I need to switch to the desired branch and tag inside that branch so that the tag refers to that branch at that po...

 
thanks
@V.7 commit :) (not branch)
 
 
1 hour later…
7:58 PM
anyone find that head n shoulders straight-up stops working at a certain point?
 
working for what?
 

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