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12:02
@KamilSolecki According to you which europe country is worth going and we can easily get visa too for it
12:12
hey
@Steve'saD hey
!!echo Good morning
Good morning
!!echo Good Morning
Good Morning
12:16
!!wiki node.js
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Good Morning
!!echo Good Morning
Good Morning
just talking to the bot i am so lonely
12:18
Hi guys
can I ask a question if you don't mind?
The only question you cannot ask is: Can I ask a question?
Rule #1 don't ask to ask a question
lol sorry
12:19
Acceptable
Can I dispose a list in the middle of execution of the program?
Pls make one of those Asian bows and say "Sumimasen!"
@jason yes but dont ask me how
@jason yea, unless it's being used
@KamilSolecki you probably still can if you abort the thread or something
12:20
How??
@Failsafe yeah, but then it's not being used when it's disposed :)
list.Dispose()
dispose a list? Lists implement idisposable? or maybe he means have the gc pick it up
i didn't know list implemented dispose :O
im such a noob nob
using (List list = new List())
yeah list is not disposable
12:21
@Steve'saD we know
just making sure you know
oh dang
you can dispose of idisposable types in a collection
Firstly, you cannot "dispose" a list since it isn't IDisposable, and you can't force it to be collected since that isn't how C# works. Typically you would do nothing here. So when might we need to do anything?

If it is a method variable, and your method is going to exit in a moment, don't do anything: let the GC worry about it at some point after the method has existed.
If it is a field (instance variable), and the object is going to go out of scope in a moment, don't do anything: let the GC worry about it at some point after the instance is unreachable.
from Marc Gravell, so it's trustworthy info
oh i thought you could force the gc to pick it up by screwing with it's scope and then forcing a ...<gc clean up thing>, but i literally have never done it and know nothing other than that
Yeah I read that before but it's not applicable to my code.
Morning' everyone
12:26
good morning
I learned yesterday I have another bundle of joy on its way :)
9
Wow congratulations!! @Kramb
Thanks!
How old is your first now?
10 months
12:29
@Kramb wow congrats!
Thank ya!
@Kramb good luck hahaha
"joy"
@misha130 A year
Lol
it's only joy after age 18
If you're a contractor in something like FORTRAN
12:30
Took us a few years for the first one, so wife's doctor said we could go ahead and start trying because it's unlikely we'll succeed for a while.
Got it the first try -_-
lol
It's good to have kids with close ages anyway
@Kramb I mean.... congratulations?
That's what we were thinking as well.
lmfao, thanks @KendallFrey
12:42
one day
i'll show you
i'll show you all
@Kramb mine too
@Ggalla1779 Nice! Hey, does yours have teeth yet?
lmfao
2...slowly coming out...yours
None. I can't even see any near the surface of the gums
breastfed?
12:44
Yea
what abut foods...purrees etc you feeding these
Oke wish me luck guys
its always slow with BF appreantly
good luck with your thing
12:45
Ty steve
@Ggalla1779 Yea, she's eating purrees with oatmeal and those yogurt disolvables
luck mate
try more solider food
bananas
etc...I was worried so we started changing what we fed
ie not just BF
Yea, last week we got her that thing that you put fruit in the mesh and she loves chewing on that
dont worry all good....no hard fast rules
I wanted that my wife said no
just give them fruit
12:47
It's a bitch to clean, that's for sure.
we were on holiday at my wifes mothers...her mother just kept feeding or lad off her plate...bread etc
lol
Yea, I'll probably chop some fruits and veggies and give her those.
he was eating pickled gherkin/cucumber....ate whole wee thing
that's great
I was feeding him lamb of my plate about a month ago
12:49
@Ggalla1779 are you irish?
just small bits ...nothing on it
UK/ Scottish
dang so close
I am on an irish tour at the moment (Contracting)
rofl
Hey @satibel
12:50
nice
@Steve'saD That post made it to -8 before it was deleted haha
riiiip
mine 10 month old chews on millet ball. Tho giving her carefully to watch her while eating.
@Ggalla1779 where are you working in ireland?
@Kramb try small banana bits just hand it...
12:51
@Ggalla1779 I'll do that, thanks mate!
@Failsafe yes 2012-14 then UK then 14-now
@ntohl give your kid a slice of lime
hilarious
or lemon
banana is easy to eat. I tried lemon and lime with older kid. He didn't like it one bit :D
my lad got hold of an after eight mint... my wife was laughing at the face he was pulling
12:52
ever see a fruit bat eat a banana?
and ginger
Irish are behind time with IT in some places and IT workers are scarce
good ones
the former is true for any gov't facility in the US
although here it feels like every other college grad is a comp sci major
hmmm thats annoying
@Failsafe Aint' that the fucking truth.
12:56
I must get a degree sometime
I just ate some Cobb salad, I'd probably need to run for a while to burn all the calories XD
ahh degrees aren't requried over there?
back in the day it was like that here
never had 1 never needed
when i was in college there were a couple of 50 year olds that were being forced to get a degree by their employer
"forced"
but yea they were amazingly smart, worked for GE at the time
but like after working for 30 years why would you need a degree
Don't get me on the subject of school -_-.
12:59
thats just stupid
Because sometimes it'd required to give a promotion above an arbitrary salary.
And that's stupid as hell.
Nevermind the quality of work, or the drive of the employee. Let's base their pay on a piece of paper.
Stupid.
I know.
company policies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
exceptions can always be made and are daily
13:01
I got turned away by 3 employers, and they all gave me the same excuse. You're perfect for the job and we love your work, but without a degree you don't meet the qualifications.
Like I went for interview...they said ok fine...you will have to come back for 2nd interview
@Kramb lol i saw that
I'm sorry my family wasn't wealthy enough to pave my road, or I was keen in going in debt.
I said I aint coming back for a 2nd interview..... only ever done 1 in ireland...am not Full timer
2nd interview went away.... but had to do online 24 questions prometric
@Kramb debt sucks
13:02
job done
almost done paying off $32k
from student loans
Nice! My wife is somewhere around there from her English BA. Now she's a stay at home mommy
lmfao
France is often like that "oh, you've brilliantly lead all these amazing projects, but you don't have this piece of paper, so we'll take the guy with no experience but the paper"
@Kramb that sucks and is just plain silly
anyone have any idea what would be causing this?
13:05
@Kieran inexperience
u wot
it only happens when im not tabbed into chat
lol i assumed it was some code without clicking on it
Firefox?
chrome
13:05
do a hard refresh to make sure you aren't caching some old shit
>hard refresh
well considering its happened before
!!lenny
I don't think thats my issue
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:05
I dunno then.
@Steve'saD you make me sad
With the last one, I straight up asked them what that degree has to do with my work. They said a degree means you are well-rounded and educated. I said, you're hiring a developer not a Rhodes Scholar.
@Kramb its not that
its that college grads tend to be more attuned to learning
you can't graduate without learning to learn
and in this profession if you stop learning you die
@JABFreeware lol
so employers look at that and say "oh this person has the ability to learn" which for new people is better than having experience
13:08
When I see what the other guys in college know, I'm laughing at that.
Should set the chrome options that if dev tools are loaded to get all the files on every refresh
does not cache anything when doing web development
@Failsafe well said but at the same time why not look at his open source projects. If its good code he can obviously learn. Right?
@satibel same with my college
@JABFreeware depends
like for where i work, most OSS doesn't mean shit
@juanvan caching is bad in web dev 99% of the time
@Steve'saD I came on skype just 5 minutes after you messaged me
110% of the time
13:09
and then you left me
@Failsafe why?
writing OSS doesn't help me identify if they can work on a team on an enterprise application
@Failsafe book knowledge does?
no ability to interact in a team environment and willingness to learn new products
being a team player is critical
13:10
^
having a team full of team players outperforms teams that have smarter people on them, but aren't team players
I can be if payed enough
loners don't do well in enterprise
Like, the teacher asks us something we don't know as a take home project, almost all of the class calls that injustice and is totally lost -_-
@Failsafe Im not a loner was just asking...
haha i didn't say you were
13:11
LONER
Cats fix that
well actually I kinda am because I don't like working in most the teams I've been on because they were stupid or poorly organized. I did work on one team though that was blessed fucking amazing.
we got things done
s/fix/makeitworse
i want a cat :(
okay maybe i'm stupid but wtf is this s/// shit? regex?
13:12
Sed
@Steve'saD get a dog, they actually love you instead of enslaving you
oh god sed
im thinking of getting a dog
@satibel so s splits it?
@Steve'saD what breed?
Siberian husky
but i don't have much dog experience, so i think i should get something easier to manage at first
Substitute
13:15
expensive and you'll have to take your fat ass out with it at least 2 hours a day
1 if you're in shape and can run and shit with it
@satibel explain?
im hoping it forces me to get in shape
but maybe thats the wrong mindset
Substitute/to be replaced/replace with/
got it
@Steve'saD No thats fine but you don't need a hyper energy dog for that.
You can bike with the dog.
Or get 2 dogs and a wheeled sled.
@Steve'saD a problem with huskies is they howl. Not bark. That howl penetrates all walls known to man. Your neighbors will hate you. That howl will be activated any time they are the least bit bored or frustrated.
13:17
@JABFreeware btw sed is coming from stream editor
@ntohl indeed. I googled
vi users like it very much
Ah, vi.
@satibel I tried biking with my dog. I road the bike and he ran beside. That was okay he didn't go under the bike or anything. What he did do was decide to go on the opposite site of the trail when someone was coming.
Escape :wq
13:19
Escape: google how the fuck do I get out of vi
haha :wq
@satibel No file name >D
real VIM users :q!
real VIM users ZZ
ZZ
Oh
Mango?
Or pumpkin?
peach?
title said mango but I was happier when I thoght peach
Oh, I thought you did it.
@satibel I could if I wanted to
but im far too lazy to want to
@Steve'saD you could get a siberian tiger
Story of my life.
Ride it to battle o/
@JABFreeware that would be awesome
@JABFreeware you're probably right about this
nothing like a chick with a tiger
is my question still unclear ?
Nothing like a chick with a big cock.
13:32
@LeoLonghi "It will only compare Equal strings and they are equivalent but not equal, is there any way to verify equivalence?" what word do you live in?
you're asking for a special comparison. What does "equal" mean to you?
@JABFreeware Portuguese
equal means the same
@LeoLonghi you got a working answer though so whats the problem?
@JABFreeware Beneficiation Return is equal to Beneficiation Return|| Beneficiation Return is equivalent to Return Beneficiation
@JABFreeware my question was put on hold and its so clear for me in my language, so i want to improve it
@LeoLonghi change to this:
btw this will still get downvoted because its easy to google "How do I compare the strings to check for the same words in any order"
@LeoLonghi, a hacky solution would be, split by spaces and punctuation, remove linking words (from, a, etc...), sort, If both arrays are equal, they are considered equivalent.
13:37
thinking objectively one would come up with the need to loop through both strings and see if each word exists in the other string
@JABFreeware i did the same question but to sql, it had none downvotes, i deleted and did this one, got 6 lol
@LeoLonghi sql community is more forgiving
string a = "Beneficiation Return";
string b = "Return Beneficiation";
string c = "Beneficiation From Return";
string d = "Return From Beneficiation";

bool isSame = !a.Except(b).Any() && !b.Except(a).Any();
that works too
@JABFreeware wat
@KendallFrey well it does. work.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't
13:39
@satibel i did this: removed the linking words from both and used this validation
@KendallFrey what am I missing asside from the performance issue and the case comparison ?
Won't "ab c" and "a bc" be a match?
@KendallFrey oh my
yes
But it won't happen, i'm sure
13:40
The simplest solution to me is to split, sort, and compare sequences
@LeoLonghi It will
@KendallFrey you could still use linq for that
@KendallFrey i mean, this string cases
@KendallFrey is it faster ?
Not those specifically, but obviously they aren't the only failing case
There will be semantically oposite groups that will be equivalent by this function.
@LeoLonghi which is?
oh nvm
13:42
@LeoLonghi it will be faster if done right yes. Not enough to matter. THe point is it will be done right
I don't know, why would it matter?
I feel ashamed I posted that without realizing
I need some kind of punishment
Are you seriously willing to sacrifice 15 minutes of maintenance time for 1 second of execution time?
@JABFreeware hm, think i'mna change it
@KendallFrey not even 1ms
13:45
@JABFreeware cumulative
@KendallFrey thats not what cumulative means
You misunderstood
You misunderstood, kendall
1 second cumulative
@Steve'Sad You're sad.
The safe way would be to get a dictionnary <string,string> which has the text without spaces as a key, and the value is a unique identifier.
13:47
" for 1 second of execution time" the only way it would be that high is with a massively huge string. There is no reason to think that it would be based on the data that has been presented
@KendallFrey i know, you see all the tears
so you made a false assumption and then called it "cumulative" and I call bullshit
@Steve'saD I'm right, rite?
@JABFreeware I SAID CUMULATIVE
It wouldn't be 1s for a single comparison, hopefully.
Calm down, children :p
Definition of cumulative
1
a :  made up of accumulated parts
b :  increasing by successive additions
2
:  tending to prove the same point cumulative evidence
3
a :  taking effect upon completion of another penal sentence a cumulative sentence
b :  increasing in severity with repetition of the offense cumulative penalty
4
:  formed by the addition of new material of the same kind a cumulative book index
5
:  summing or integrating overall data or values of a random variable less than or less than or equal to a specified value cumulative normal distribution cumulative frequency distribution
13:48
guys, kendall was wrong
but how
increasing by successive additions fits the bill.
@satibel except he gave a total
1 microsecond delay, run 1 million times, makes for 1 second cumulative delay
@KendallFrey now that is accurate
because you state your assumptions
and then present the conclusion
context bitch
jesus
13:50
I assumed the context was easy enough to work out
you assume your scope too?
I'll noscope you too
C# chat : spend 1hour nitpicking on semantics.
13:51
@KendallFrey thats like me saying "spend money on monthly maintenance and your car will drive for millions of miles no problem" thats making the assumption its the same car based on that context
Precisely speaking, there's no objective difference between a developer and a user. </bait>
but what someone like you would mean and assume everyone to understand would be "combined, all your cars will make it millions of miles"
@JABFreeware That's the worst analogy I've ever heard
@KendallFrey Its hard to come up with a good analogy to illustrate idiocy. blame yourself
you're just trying to change the subject
What am I trying to change the subject to? Huh?
13:54
analogies
good vs bad
what the fuck
At this point I think a subject change is mandatory for sanity's sake.
WHO LIKES OPERATOR SECTIONING?
and now you are changing the subject to chaning the subject
@KendallFrey bless you
don't be upset because kendall was wrong, just smile and know you were right and that he'll never admit when he's wrong
@Steve'saD I will, and have
13:55
@Steve'saD spoken like a true wiseman
hello all
@KendallFrey no you dont
@KendallFrey it's so easy to bait you
you change the subject
Mar 9 at 13:37, by Kendall Frey
I was wrong
Oct 22 '15 at 12:42, by Kendall Frey
@SteffenWinkler I was wrong, it's not inherited, it's transparent
Jun 12 '15 at 19:33, by Kendall Frey
I was wrong
13:56
Look how triggered he is
Mar 19 '14 at 18:54, by Kendall Frey
I was wrong, it's <msg>
Steve that's mean
1 nanosecond delay, run 1 billion times, makes for 1 second delay
Nov 7 '13 at 15:40, by Kendall Frey
Hum, I was wrong. I thought it was ~12, but it's 10.25 in ON
Jul 22 '13 at 15:47, by Kendall Frey
No, I think I was wrong
your self esteem is -1000........cumulatively
13:57
@Steve'saD It's so easy to prove you wrong
8 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
1 microsecond delay, run 1 million times, makes for 1 second cumulative delay
@KendallFrey Maybe he just wanted you to point out all the times you were wrong
look its okay to be wrong
and admit it
Hi, I'm using stripe and c# and get this error "The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden."

This is the code:

string clientSecretKey = ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["Bearer sk_test_example"];
 const string ChargeUrl = "https://api.stripe.com/v1/charges?amount={0}&currency={1}&source={2}&description={3}"; 

 string requestUrl = HttpUtility.UrlPathEncode(
 String.Format(ChargeUrl, 1000, "usd", "tok_19xLu8HN9aKw9vrkUsflNWOI", "Test charge to [email protected]") );

 HttpWebRequest request = WebRequest.Create(requestUrl) as HttpWebRequest;

 request.Headers.Add("Autho
we wont think less of you and we wont hit you
you're safe here
13:58
@wieblinger Please format your code correctly
@KendallFrey maybe they dont know about Ctrl + K
don't be a dick
my spidey senses are tingling
> Tells someone how to improve their question
> "Don't be a dick"

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