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6:00 PM
that's bad practice
 
user7480455
let me guess you think vb.net is bad as well
 
i never got why people use vb tbh
 
well yea
this is a c# room
 
its good for highschool kids
 
user7480455
where there you go
 
6:00 PM
and its kinda good for excel and office things
 
user7480455
you dislike because you are told to dislike lol
 
but other than that
 
No, because then those high school kids grow up and program things in VB.
 
user7480455
but its okay young man.. its okay
 
yeah i agree vb is nice for kids
 
6:01 PM
!!???
 
but can also be used seriously on things like
 
@007 this isn't my first rodeo bud
 
user7480455
vb.net and c# can do the same thing
 
yeah its Callled VBA
 
user7480455
6:02 PM
vb.net is more verbose and you don;t have all the extra characters to add to the end of a functions and stuff
 
visual basic for applications is nice
 
user7480455
vba is different than VB.net
 
yeah but its kinda the same syntax
 
user7480455
vba is to give offices developers a way to have manage code I think it's called
 
yes
they use it for office stuff
 
user7480455
6:03 PM
yeah fail... I understand... but you fall into the same pattern as other programmers
 
datasheets and stuff
 
fall into the same pattern?
 
for web forms, I just had to do like three easy UI fixes for a client but I didn't touch any backend stuff. I didn't lie about my programming experience or web forms
 
user7480455
trust me I manage them.. I know how you guys think
 
Just never did sql server stuff
 
6:03 PM
you manage people?
what the fuck?
 
web forms is the future
 
user7480455
of like and dislike I mean failsafe
 
user7480455
that is what I mean about patterns
 
user7480455
there is no logic or reason... you just do it because of group think.. its common
 
no
 
6:04 PM
 
i do it because i've used the language before
 
user7480455
when I hear a programmer say they don;t like vb.net that tells me alot about them
 
a lot of programmers dont like vb
 
vb is nice , i just dont want to bother with it
 
user7480455
they don;t have any reason outside of what was told to them by a mentor that C# is better
 
6:05 PM
its the same thing with c# minus childish syntax
 
so much so that MSFT has been considering dropping support for it for years
 
user7480455
what do you mran by childish syntax
 
@007 You should look up what a cargo cult is.
 
user7480455
I have heard that before
 
you know
simple syntax
 
user7480455
6:06 PM
you mean ease of understanding?
 
yeah too simple
 
user7480455
lol
 
user7480455
perfect
 
I don't understand why I am incapable of forming an opinion based on experience
 
user7480455
that is the common statement I hear from my programmers
 
6:07 PM
apparently i am just in "group think"
 
and after one point you dont need that simplicity, you just need to be able to read code samples and articles
 
user7480455
well it is
 
and if those things are written on c# 90% of the time
why bother learning net through basic
 
So @007, you're saying you are a lead who hears things from his programmers and immediately devalues it, despite the experience that they have?
 
its not worth
just use c# and u gucci
 
user7480455
6:08 PM
sidney you are thinking too deeply mate as I never typed any of that lol
 
and just do some c++ here and there if you need some deep down system function
 
is someone seriously defending vb?
 
c++ import
 
It's really incredible that you are a lead who manages programmers and yet you just started programming but also have been programming since the "good ol days" of webforms
 
user7480455
I think most programmers like the challenge of it all
 
6:09 PM
do you use the time travel trick that hermoine uses in harry potter
 
@SebastianL its good simple language that is meant for other purposes other than mainstream programming
 
user7480455
I think what programmers fear is their users getting in there messing things up
 
user7480455
VB is such a gate way that a user that has some VB exposure may think they can do what you do and that is never good
 
user7480455
lol
 
@GeorgeSarcasmGod what purposes, and have you ever maintained a vb6 project with 600k+ LoC?
 
user7480455
6:10 PM
is very interesting to see how programmers think... it is so very fascinating
 
c# and vb are very easy to swap back and forth
 
user7480455
this is why I come here.. i get so much insight from you guys
 
if you go to any given msdn article you will see examples on bot basic and c#
but again
basic has its own use that is not mainstream programming
both*
 
....
 
user7480455
at one time back in the like '12 it seems like people wanted to kill off VB.net
 
6:11 PM
wat
 
Real devs program in IL
 
user7480455
not sure that is still the case
 
no .net msdn article has BASIC code examples
 
@007 it is
 
user7480455
6:12 PM
not sure what dice is
 
user7480455
but I guess they know
 
anyway, a scenario where basic is useful is when Microsoft wants to give some extra code to a corporation along with a Nav suite, the code has to be simple so the it guys can figure it out without being a Net pro
IT guys*
 
user7480455
sql should come to an end??
 
or in school
 
user7480455
that is so odd
 
6:13 PM
schools freaking love basic
 
i dont think sql will die soon
 
That list says assembly should die, because it's easier to write in C or python.
 
sql is the mother of all languages
 
user7480455
make me wonder If I wrote this
 
6:14 PM
Ergo, that list is retarded
 
its pretty much 2 times older than any given ool
we know
 
It's authors are retarded
 
user7480455
August 11, 2017 at 9:26 am, Ed said:

Anyone who pushes “hate VB” in almost 2 decades of . Net is simply a fool trying to show fellow fools into believing he/she is some fancy coder. Fact of the matter is that that fool and those who bite, simply doesn’t know.

Here’s a modern concept, well, “modern”, for those who haven’t known for almost two decades of .Net: applications happily humming along with C# and VB together.

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The company is also probably retarded
 
thats it you must be a troll
@GeorgeSarcasmGod
 
6:14 PM
im leaving this conversation before i lose any more IQ points then necessary...
 
its like saying that F# is useless and must be droppd cuz none uses it
 
user7480455
what is F#
 
just cuz its not used as much dont mean it doesnt have its own use
 
user7480455
ill look it up
 
microsoft has money dude, mondey for spending and throwing away
 
user7480455
6:16 PM
I think based on what I know... all langues serve a purpose
 
if any given kid does basic on school and then grows to be a net dev
thats profit for them
 
Bringing this room back to C#, I recently discovered moreLinq. It's been more than four hours since then, but.... I think I need to see doctor.
 
so why not keep supporting it
 
user7480455
they people that I use know alot of things... it just that they are a world away in different medians so it makes it hard to collaborate
 
linq is fun tbh
especially for XML
parsing
 
user7480455
6:17 PM
but just like communication the more languages you can speak the better rounded you are
 
@Sidney hehe
 
> 235 new messages
the fuck happened in here
 
it did?
 
@mikeTheLiar Spare yourself, just keep eating your street tacos.
 
I must have missed it
 
user7480455
6:19 PM
we were talking about mothers and fornication and things we hate
 
@Sidney don't talk about Kendall's mom like that
 
user7480455
seems about right for this motley lot
 
@mikeTheLiar it was more or less 235 messages of 007 lying some more
per the usual
 
user7480455
don;t understand that
 
@mikeTheLiar 200 lines of people arguing if v basic should be dropped or not
 
user7480455
6:20 PM
not lying just having fun like you guys do
 
user7480455
making funny comments that mirror elements of my life
 
Aug 16 at 21:49, by mikeTheLiar
The sooner the old VB programmers die off the sooner we can kill the language itself.
 
user7480455
how do you say... fisher men tails
 
Fishermen don't have tails.
 
user7480455
6:22 PM
I may have the phraseology incorrect but you get my meaning
 
vbasic is the best language ever
This is Vbasic clan take over
 
@mikeTheLiar Really? A perfectly relevant comment from a month and a half ago? Are you sure you're not a computer?
 
I'm getting my information from urban dictionary, which may be inaccurate
 
@KendallFrey !!wat
 
user7480455
going to flag that as that sounds harsh
 
6:23 PM
oh ffs don't flag that
 
When I grow up I want to be a computer.
@KendallFrey flagged
 
@mikeTheLiar hopefully you don't make it that far
i mean uh
same
 
If I grow up I mean
 
This Vbaidc clat take over, you infidels drop those fancy error exceptions and fast binding
 
user7480455
who is that lady in the rotating picture...
 
6:24 PM
we rule now
clan*
 
user7480455
is that you fail?
 
i could write this straight without laughing
i couldnt*
 
> rotating picture
that's funny
 
It's actually a new thing called a moving picture
its pretty crazy technology
 
Boi We had My namespace before you had Dynamic
 
user7480455
6:26 PM
you guys are funny
 
But still no sound
 
user7480455
this is why I come here
 
It'll be lifetimes before we have moving pictures with sound
 
user7480455
it keeps me young
 
we just use Like instead all your useless comparisons you have, lik equals and stuff
 
user7480455
6:27 PM
?
 
we dont even have to use return
ourprocedures are so smart they return themselfs
 
Can we ban George for being off topic?
VB is vile to our eyes
 
hsss
 
user7480455
I am a little lost you are talking about VB.net correct?
 
VB is Very Bad.
 
6:28 PM
@GeorgeSarcasmGod Y combinator, eh?
 
user7480455
name one bad thing
 
007
 
VB
 
user7480455
that you know
 
boy watcha saying, we even use = to bot compare and assign variables
 
user7480455
6:29 PM
and not been told
 
both*
you sillly c# guyz use == and =
 
dont forget about .Equals
 
user7480455
I like C# I like vba and vb.net
 
Ambiguous Comparisons. Case in point.
 
user7480455
but I don;t have to use them all day
 
6:29 PM
@Sidney thats a good band name
 
user7480455
its silly to dislike something
 
user7480455
but i also respect your freedom to dislike
 
thats why VB has the
 
user7480455
so I am not being rude
 
6:30 PM
Like operator
 
"Ambiguous Comparisons" with their new album "Coalescent Operator"
 
so you can like it
every time
 
definitely some techy math metal band
 
on a serious note tho
 
user7480455
still waiting for mikes bad vb example
 
6:31 PM
vb is a fun language
 
module
there's your bad VB example
 
if my dream came true and i became a singer
 
"Ambiguous Comparisons" sounds like a bar with holes in the restroom dividers.
 
user7480455
that is a carry over fail
 
i would think of vb first to spend my time hobying around with progtrmming
 
user7480455
6:31 PM
so code can run
 
user7480455
no one would use it
 
@007 when the hell are you supposed to use parentheses in VB? I still can't figure it out.
 
user7480455
these ()
 
yes those are parentheses
 
user7480455
I don't remember as I am not a programmer
 
6:32 PM
im sorry?
 
user7480455
the quotes can be a problem
 
you dont write parenthesis, judging by the average age of vb users, they probably haven't been introduced to any kind of brackets from math
 
you're not a programmer?
 
user7480455
sometimes if I recall correctly... you hav eto use ' " ' in vb
 
user7480455
that is very trouble some
 
user7480455
6:33 PM
no I am not a programmer
 
recall correctly ?
007 why you deny us
 
user7480455
back in '88 I was
 
forget ur roots ?
betray us for a more modern language
 
there was no webforms in '88
 
user7480455
but I had to give it up as I could not keep up with the ever changing tech
 
6:34 PM
remember thou art programmer
 
user7480455
so I just pseudo code designs
 
Why am I making History of the World jokes again?
 
user7480455
nope not in '88
 
pseudo code looks like basic
 
user7480455
6:34 PM
back in '88 I was doing turbo pascal
 
I used to be a programmer like you, then I took a pointer to the knee.
 
My dad has books on pascal
 
user7480455
and c
 
&knee
 
they gucci
i mean PasCal
 
user7480455
6:35 PM
and what was the other one.... Cobol
 
user7480455
for a very short time
 
@Sidney gcc sidneyjoke.c
 
Cobol is still used on corps actualy
 
Stack Overflow
 
user7480455
pascal was very interesting not sure of its origins
 
6:36 PM
!!tell 007 wiki pascal
 
@007 the painter made the language
 
pascal is the big momma
 
user7480455
cobol will never die as it is infrastructure for lots of places
 
there was also a physicist called pascal
 
user7480455
laugh at fail that was funny
 
6:37 PM
Pascal the painter made the language to try and digitize his paintings to look more oily using adobe aftereffects
 
user7480455
smart humor
 
What even is truth?
 
some nerd guy made pascal cuz he liked the guy callled pascal
that was a scientist and not a painter
and did science stuff
thats why pascal was used on science stuff
also
 
user7480455
it was where I learned basic data structures
 
6:38 PM
some nerd guys made java
because they loved coffee
so they named it java
 
s/nerd/subhuman piece of garbage
 
^
 
nerd.ascend()
 
user7480455
I thought java was a small machine language
 
probably thought VB was a good langauge too
 
6:39 PM
let us remind you all that
 
user7480455
vb is not bad
 
Basic was an actual language that vb was inspired on
 
user7480455
fail and others... do you think someone where will make another language that will be superior to what exist today?
 
about 60% of programmers that ever lived grew up with some form of basic
so pay tribute to the most glorious language all
 
TIBasic Master Race
 
6:40 PM
ASM FTW
 
user7480455
that answer to that question is yes
 
Write Like if you think vbasic should replace c#
i cant hear you
 
write like2 if you think george should be kicked
 
user7480455
and when you guys get old you will preach the virtues of today
 
user7480455
6:41 PM
but be laughed at by tomorrows generation
 
The only times I interact with VB is if I'm wearing a gimp mask and may or may not have a riding crop shoved into some orifice.
3
 
user7480455
sad truth of life
 
in future generations c# will be the only language
 
@Sidney wow life in kansas must be hard
 
so we wont be laughed at
 
6:42 PM
@Failsafe very hard
 
!!tell failsafe lenny
 
user7480455
that is very short sighted george
 
c# will sourpuss java in 1 to 2 years
 
@failsafe ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
> sourpuss
 
6:42 PM
Don't talk about Kendall's mom like that.
3
 
user7480455
mother jokes
 
user7480455
they beggar belief
 
She is something you have to see to believe. Truth be told I can't fathom that you haven't already seen her.
 
when you look up in the sky and see a big white orb floating during the night
well....
!!giphy thats no moon
 
6:46 PM
Little known fact, when Nietzsche said "if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you" he was actually talking about Kendall's mom.
Also how does rightGif somehow get worse when filtered through Cap?
 
i've gazed into the abyss before
it was at a denny's at 2am
 
@Failsafe What that the before or after feeding?
 
i was hammered beyond belief
 
i listen to this song to boost my writing speed
i can write 50 lines per 10 seconds with this jam
 
6:49 PM
Most of us just do meth
 
meth is bad
dont
some times weed is good
but
 
It helps us write more lines
 
weed is more of a brainstormer
 
s/write/do/
 
you know when you are stuck and you do weed
and then u get unstuck
 
6:52 PM
weed turns me into a potato
and i like it that way
fuck brainstorming
i wanna watch always sunny and eat chinese food
 
hehe
if u overdo it yes
i just have it there and maybe do 2-1 blows per work session
just about enough to give me that slight fuzzy feeling
 
k
 
i remember when i was able write code and make my first money
and the first thing i thought
now i can buy my own weed
 
user7480455
was?
 
user7480455
oh
 
6:55 PM
and i used to have a crappy keyboard back then you know
it was missing half of its buttons including : ;
 
user7480455
what type of keyboard do you have
 
and ctrl
 
user7480455
now
 
i use a surface pro keyboard
cuz it personally suits me so good
 
user7480455
ahh ok
 
6:56 PM
the touchpad on this thing is 100 times better than anything you might have experienced
infact i dont even use a mouse just touchpad
its crazy good
 
user7480455
we were issued surfaces
 
user7480455
they are interesting
 
their keyboard is the best thingf
best keyboard known to humanity
 
user7480455
it is okay
 
because if you learn to use the touch pad you never get to remove your hands off the keyboard or re position
 
user7480455
6:59 PM
I think the unit we have is a i7 processor
 
you can reach every button from the end and home keys to the up north to down town ctrl key
 
user7480455
it gets very warm
 
and the touch pad to
too*
yes the sp3 is heat sink
but they fixed on sp4
and later versions
 

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