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4:00 PM
@mikeTheLiar it is but it's better then coping each page by hand to the excel sheet
 
@juanvan What were you trying to do specifically with the string you got from this PDFReader?
I imagine you didn't simply want to write the string out to a file
 
anyone know how to setup a anon / no auth ftp site in IIS
 
@Tomwa I read the line, parse the Partnumber, search a pricefile, put those items into a datatable then write it out to an xls file
 
apparently the simple act of having a folder with everyone is god permissions and only anon auth enabled doesn't work
 
@wadry should be a setting in the FTP to allow Anon access
 
4:02 PM
what you mean this one ....
 
That would be the 1
 
yeh ... it don't seem to work!
even when I do this ...
 
@juanvan I don't think the StringBuilder was to blame this code results in the same file (MD5 hash is the same) as your code:

public static void SBReadPdfToOutputFile(string fileName)
        {

            string testFilePath = System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(fileName) + "\\SBoutput.txt";
            if (System.IO.File.Exists(fileName))
            {
                PdfReader pdfReader = new PdfReader(fileName);

                StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder();
                for (int page = 1; page <= pdfReader.NumberOfPages; page++)
 
nope apparently that's not god like enough
still need to login
 
@wadry how do you know that the one using it is in fact every one.
You know what I'm saying?
 
4:05 PM
yeh everyone is not inclusive enough
 
@wadry what if a hamster were to try and login?
 
@Tomwa I will test that code, the program is running, going to see what the output is
 
define hamster?
 
By definition they are not a person. Therefore they don't meet the definition which is: "every person."
Define define.
 
!!define define
 
4:06 PM
@mikeTheLiar [define](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki?curid=55141) To determine with precision; to mark out with distinctness; to ascertain or exhibit clearly.
the defining power of an optical instrument‎
 
And do you want the definition in words, numbers, or wingdings?
 
@Tomwa everyone != every person
 
!!define hamster
 
@mikeTheLiar [hamster](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki?curid=4901) Any of various Old-World rodent species belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae.
especially, the golden hamster, Mesocricetus auratus, and the dwarf hamsters of genus Phodopus, often kept as a pets and used in scientific research.
It is the cutest sight to see a hamster stuff his puffy cheeks with food; where is it going to store it?
 
!!google Define: everyone
 
Caprica do you agree that all of those definitions contain the words "every person"?
 
@Tomwa I stand corrected
 
!!swag
 
@Tomwa That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!momentofclarity
 
4:08 PM
2 days ago, by Squiggle
COCKBAGGING KNOBJOCKEY SWASH-TITTY CHOADGOBBLER
 
Truly @Squiggle at his finest.
I'm going to try and walk to the convenience store. AGAIN. And see if it's ACTUALLY open now.
The hours are 6AM - 12AM. I arrived at several times before 10AM
Now it's 11:10
Let us check
 
maybe family emergency? The Slushy Machine ran out of ice
 
hahaha
 
@Tomwa you do know Caprica's a robot, right?
 
found the BIDS VS version on my machine, got the solution from source control, went to open ANNNDDDDD
 
4:12 PM
CTD?
 
"Error loading "blah.dtsx": failed to load task "thisTask", type "". The contact information for this task is "Company" "
but i also have some sort of encryption warning saying i'm not hte user that created it
 
Can you just open the raw xml for now? I know I said not to do that but I guess I lied
 
ah
ok
i'm viewing the code
xml
 
So just do a ctrl-f for custom documents
 
ok i see the following heirarchy: DTS:Executables -> DTS:ObjectData -> InnerObject -> Connection -> Type: 8 value="Data Source Stuff; Application Name=SSIS"
but nothing that gives me the title of the component
 
4:16 PM
You don't see something like DTS:Description="Custom Documents" or DTS:ObjectName="Custom Documents"?
 
no
 
What the actual fuck
 
so this task we'll call replace
i have DTS:CreationName="SSIS.ReplaceTask"
DTS:Description="SomethingElse"
DTS:ObjectName="Replace"
that's under executables -> executable
 
And that's the only task in this package, right?
 
but the custom documents looks like a custom component that is apparently on my former coworker's machine
yes
that's what's throwing me off
 
4:18 PM
@wadry lol the posterity
 
What's ExecutableType?
 
there is only one task in this thing, but it somehow hits the database, generates a file, sends an email, then updates the database again
on the outermost executable - Microsoft.Package, on the next one SSIS.ReplaceTask
so there's an executable in an executable...
 
So if this is a custom task, SSIS.ReplaceTask is the namespace that it lives in
Does it look something like this:
DTS:ExecutableType="Ssis.Addons.CustomObjects.ValidateDataTapeTask, SsisAddonLibrary, Version=1.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b1516848cb6eb781"
Where "Ssis.Addons.CustomObjects.ValidateDataTapeTask is the namespace of our custom task
And SsisAddonLibrary is the solution that its in
 
:/
for the SSIS.ReplaceTask
i have DTSID="{GUID}", localeID="-1", ObjectName="Replace", TaskContact="Name"
but no version, culture, etc. information
the executabletype looks exactly like this: DTS:ExecutableType="SSIS.Replace"
 
@Ganesh did you resolve your issue?
 
4:24 PM
So this is confusing because from what you've described it sounds like it's a custom component but from what we're seeing here it sounds like it's executing another package
In the same solution
 
right, so what i did was right click the .dtsx file and chose "view code"
in there a top level executable is declared
DTS:Executable xmlns:DTS="www.microsoft.com/SqlServer/Dts"
inside that executable, is a grouping of <DTS:Executables>
in THERE there is an executable with a refId="Package\Replace"
that's the ReplaceTask
my freaking brain is melting...
think i'm gonna take lunch
 
Me too. I'm outta ideas anyway, definitely check out chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/179/the-heap-consultancy- though
They've always been very helpful when I have SSIS problems
 
thanks, i will as soon as i get back
 
billinkc is probably who you want for SSIS help
 
trying to learn async /await stuff seems kinda complicated.
 
4:32 PM
It's only complicated if you want to mix async and non-async in a webapp, or a desktop app, or a mobile app.
Or if you're trying to debug.
Or trying to analyze the stack trace of a crash report.
 
It's complicated if you dont have a good understanding of delegates, actions, funcs, etc
 
Mike, I'm sad about Xamarin :(
 
is it possible to have a ternary operator that has a nested ternary operator?
 
The worst thing is the build issues I keep getting and VS keeps crashing
 
what manner of build issues?
 
4:34 PM
JoJo, I don't see why not as long as it evaluates to the correct type
 
I posted a better one yesterday but I don't have access to the exact message right now.
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Q: cannot access the .dll file because it's being used by another process?

Sana QureshiOK, this is getting very annoying. Whenever i run any .aspx file, i sometimes get these errors: Error 11 Could not copy "obj\Debug\SMC.dll" to "bin\SMC.dll". Exceeded retry count of 10. Failed. Error 12 Unable to copy file "obj\Debug\SMC.dll" to "bin\SMC.dll". The process cannot access the f...

Something like that, I just restarted VS and it's hanging on me again
I never had these VS issues at my last job
idk if it's my machine
I disabled Resharper
VS keeps hanging
 
It was working fine until I merged in lastest code with mine and I accidentally took server .csproj and it corrupted everything :(
I wish I can spend more time actually writing code
 
@Kala are you writing a WPF app by any chance?
 
no Xamarin
 
4:38 PM
int j = 1;
int i = j == 1 ? 0 : (j == 0 ? 2 : 3);

I just hope there is a really really good reason for doing it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should
 
@KalaJ I'd maybe try using Procmon to monitor file handle usages
 
@Kala I should have been more specific: Are you using the XAML designer.
 
wow now it's complaining I'm missing packages
urgh
Tonwa, why? I was using it for Xamarin.Android but mostly I've been doing Xamarin.Forms
 
@KalaJ Because I often get the same type of issue which I fix by killing the "Microsoft XAML Designer" process.
 
monitor file handle usages? What do you mean?
oh
how should I kill the XAML Designer?
 
4:40 PM
Requires you to restart the XAML designer (Which it does for you) but it seems to be a lot longer lasting.
 
user47589
kill it with fire
 
nuke it from orbit
 
I think I make my bosses boss nervous as hell... I hate that...
 
@KalaJ Just use Task Manager go to "Microsoft Visual Studio XAML Designer" and right click -> End Process.
 
why JoJo?
 
4:41 PM
It'll automatically be restarted if you need it.
 
Btw guys I asked my company about conference sponsor and they said after a year
Oh wells
 
He NEVER has time for technical talk and almost makes me feel stupid for asking/running ideas by him
Im thinking of just ignoring him from now on, but that is prob a recipe for disaster
I at least need to lower my expectation
he WAS my boss and got promoted recently
why are devs so NON collaborative?
seems most devs prefer a f'in vacuum for some reason
 
At least you have other devs to work with :P I've been all alone at my job
 
@JohanLarsson Are you a genie?
 
4:44 PM
thoughts?
 
Who is your new boss? Have you tried going to him? Seems like you're trying to jump the chain of command now that he's been promoted
 
@JoJo Collaboration is for quitters.
 
my current boss is on vacation, I like my current boss though he too suffers from the same waterfall disease
 
Good Morning coffee lovers! To the rest of you... go away.
 
user47589
o/ @RyanTernier
 
4:46 PM
Is it too early to be a beer lover?
 
Well guys I've been told to leave because I don't like liquid dirt.
 
and lacks technical discussion capabilities
 
Catch ya'll later.
 
@JoJo What position is your boss in?
 
my boss is now Tech Lead, since my last boss became VP
 
4:47 PM
Are your complaints with the new TEch Lead, or the VP/
 
and I want things to change a bit so now that I have a new boss I need to get this right
the vp
so let it go and start fresh?
 
@MikeAsdf @Tomwa:
Unable to copy file
"C:\Users\~\Desktop\~\main\Mobile\packages\Xamarin.Forms.2.1.0.6529\lib\MonoAndroid10\Xamarin.Forms.Platform.Android.dll"
to "bin\Debug\Xamarin.Forms.Platform.Android.dll".
The process cannot access the file 'bin\Debug\Xamarin.Forms.Platform.Android.dll' because it is being used by another process.
Project.Android	C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\14.0\bin\Microsoft.Common.CurrentVersion.targets	3962
 
You're tech lead is decent? it's the VP that's not up to par (in your mind)?
 
This is the issue I am getting urgh
Why VS?
 
@RyanTernier yep, my new boss, does not like tech talk, agile approach but he is good solid programmer
 
4:48 PM
@RyanTernier, I like tea :)
 
Ok, sot he VP is your "new boss". where does the tech lead fit into the mix?
 
@jojo, I am working with someone who does not even know C#
 
@Ryan
no, tech lead is new boss
so technically yes I can just not go to VP for advice any more
if thats what it takes
 
I think you should just say whats on your mind to him
 
@KalaJ Another program has the file open, Try closing the other program or manually moving the dll
 
4:50 PM
true... there is that assertive thing...
 
just say "hey man, we need to talk about this stuff and it is frustrating to me that it seems like you don't want to"
 
right
 
otherwise
 
we got 20mil annual riding on 4 devs.. we need to converse man
 
@tyler, I'm not sure which program?
 
4:51 PM
ya.. the road looks good
 
if he doesn't like the way you do things from here on he can't complain if he won't collaborate
 
yep
 
@KalaJ If You'd like you can try:

Right click on your project --> Properties

Under "Android Options" uncheck the box "Use Shared Runtime"
 
@jojo have you had a sit down talk with the new Tech Lead?
 
ohh yeah I do have that checked, thanks Tomwa, I'll double check the setting
 
@RyanTernier not yet, it is only about 3 weeks since the last VP got canned
 
@JoJo If that was me, I'd sit down with the Tech Lead, voice my concerns and try to work out a path. If that doesn't work, then sit down with the new VP and talk to him 1:1
 
@RyanTernier he is gonna help me become a solid full stack dev though
 
People getting canned doesn't slow down business / the world. it keeps moving forward. the new VP will understand that
 
@TylerGregorcyk That's great until you have to kill that process before every single build.
 
4:53 PM
@Tomwa, I imagine the build would be slower though
 
@KalaJ Slower than not working at all?
Or slower than having to force kill a process before build?
 
haha ok true, I'll report back when the build starts
 
@Tomwa You only needs to move the file once, so you wont have to kill it every time you build
 
@TylerGregorcyk It's copying the DLL to the build directory on each build. The build process itself is locking it.
 
4:54 PM
@Tomwa, are you working on Xamarin stuff as well or WPF?
 
@KalaJ WPF, I've only worked with Xamarin once.
 
What's the best tool for figuring out which process has a *transient* lock on a file?
i.e. a lock that causes a build to fail, but by the time you go in and analyze things the process has already fled the scene of the crime.
 
But from what I recall Xamarin Forms are XAML based.
 
user47589
hm, Process Monitor with the right filters might do it, @MikeAsdf
 
@tomwa, issue persists even with shared runtime checked off
 
4:56 PM
@Amy Just start it, setup the filter, and leave it running.
@KalaJ It was worth a shot.
 
user47589
yeah
 
@Tomwa that did work
 
Having a beard and eating a barbecue chicken wrap gracefully are fundamentally at odds
 
Wonder why if you do sb.ToString() and set it to a string it does not then
 
@tomwa, yeah there's xaml code here
but I don't see the xaml designer running in task manager
 
user47589
4:58 PM
shove the chicken all the way up your butt, @mikeTheLiar
 
rebuilding the solution
 
user47589
butts aren't only for panini.
 
@KalaJ Which version of Xamarin are you using?
 
@Amy this wrap is kinda big but I'll go get the lube
 
It should be the latest
 
user47589
4:59 PM
@mikeTheLiar no time for lube, that chicken'll get cold
 
@Tomwa nope
 

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