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@yojimbo87 it doesnt >_>
@yojimbo87 it doesn't, we moved on
oh this is like another scenario
There are multiple war powers , multiple nukes.
There is enough interactivity
and each game ends with nuclear devastation
Preferably in webgl >_>
@jcolebrand you wanted to do one single simulation?
I do.
I want to do one massive synchronized simulation
Does that mean our web app is a sitting duck :p
20:02
It would keep running through the maps, faster an faster
once the simulation is over it does nothing
@Raynos no, we're just shooting instructions out to everyone ;)
the voting period is over a matter of days
@Raynos sure, the voting is only a short time.
We could have it timed to run for 20 hours, respawning at each end point.
Yeah
and its all just calculated on the server and pushed out in real time?
20:04
Yeah
That's exactly it
So it's more about timing and distribution than it is about doing stuff
but that's just as important
so its about no lag and everyone seeing the same thing?
yes
Or at least, as little as is possible
Should be possible
ok, now please tell me the big picture cause I'm little bit lost
A nuclear war simulation
Rendered with webgl
Data calculated in real time on the server and pushed out over socket.io
20:11
so it will involve world map
Yes
Display numbers would show as the actual number of participants of ~ 5 seconds ago watching
Globe, wil nuclear missile projectories
break them up as the viewers from each country done via geolocation or something
so the number of weapons in that countries arsenal is actually the number of viewers
Wait
were linking viewers to the simulation?
20:12
Yeah...
why not?
Adds a bit of interactivity
The war simulation is procedurally generated based on viewers
sounds good
it's not really resource intensive is it?
I think that sounds like a good plan
shouldnt be
so users wouldn't take any direct action apart from watching?
Not at the onset
20:13
Pretty much
towards the end they would get to play tic tac toe I think
maybe, let's storyboard it first
20:25
wouldn't this invoke some immoral feelings among the judges towards us or something like that
Oh no its cool
why would it be immoral?
It's a well known movie
I was thinking having it being multiplayer instead, 2 users per instance
With a message saying "Avoid starting nuclear war" and a single button saying "Nuke them"
Then that just becomes a modified game of risk
press realease: this year knockout winning project - nuclear war simulator
20:26
lmao
Then have a counter at the end saying how many people nuked them
@Raynos that could be done as well
We can also learn from defcon
and actually turn it into a playable game
With the concept of "make the enemy lose more millions of civilian lives"
well thats the immoral part
That sounds like too much work
20:28
It does but having actual gameplay is a good thing
Having bright and shiny with sound is also a good thing
Well need some kind of user input
list of cities to nuke? :D
Yeah, that's why I was thinking the tictactoe being user input
I have to go.
20:31
Ciao
ok so up to this day we have 2 candidates
SO visualisation and nuclear game simulation
I felt my original option was still valid fair game, if a little weaksauce
giving us a total of three options
I was thinking about something involving the world map and visualisation
like the maptail
which looks kind of cool I think
yeah but maptail requires too many visitors to be too neat
but that would require some feed of data
20:37
It would require hundreds of visitors in a relatively close timeframe
I like having the number of visitors dictate who would be winning in the wargame scenario
and what sides would be there?
It was a "Cold War" era film, the reds vs the blues
The intent with "WarGames" as the theme is to use that as the theme. Stick to the original rhetoric.
I see
Hmmm, instead of every 20 hours, I think cycling over 3-7 hours would be better
It would mean replaying the scenarios over and over and over, but it would cycle fast enough to keep attention
But that would give less time for interactivity towards the end.
so when user enters the website he will instantly see a world map with highlighted areas for blue and red
20:41
If the game is already going on, yes
otherwise he will see the menu selections
or hear the dialog voices
will he be pointed on the map
through geolocation?
ooooh, good call
show the map based on where the user is initially
or only show to them where they are with a point on the map, and hide everyone else?
maybe he will be able to fire some amount of nukes
Or make them a launch target?
Everytime someone "logs on", they become a launch site and a launch target
20:44
@yojimbo87 why on god's green earth are you two so insistent on making a game? They don't need to launch nukes
they are going to be impressed enough if we can make this as polished as I see in my head
they don't need to do anything.
I for one would leave this running for an hour just to watch
it could make them to think that they can take some action
and see the action in motion when they want to do it
calculate the very first run at real time after "launch" so 90 minutes to strike time
then every iteration after that would take half as long with new courses.
until you got to each "run" being ~ 1 minute in length
users may not get the point of the game right from the start so they could "miss" the nuke launch on logon
Of course, that's where we would have to tell them
That's why I want an "official launch time"
So that the game doesn't "begin" until then.
and what if the judges dont want to wait
20:48
I doubt that would be the case
they want to see instant action
a) we would have a polished page telling them that something would be forthcoming
thats an assumption
b) people love to wait
c) it's all about the presentation man
so what will happen when the game starts
20:52
It will initially be the wardialer, looking for open ports. Then the kid's voice asking what this is, the nerds saying "just log in and find out", the kid trying some passwords, it showing a menu, the girl saying "no lets don't", the game saying "would you like to play a game" and then him going down each entry in turn, finally starting TNW, then the screen going blank, then a cursor showing, then the map appears, then the voices at NORAD start talking about a detected missile launch ...
then a retailiatory strike, then we wait
and various voices reading off coordinates, or incoming missile trajectories, or scrambled fighter wings, or sub locations.
Then at the time when it should be an impacting missile on the first run (the longest waiting run) we hear them call the first base to be destroyed
then the explosion
then everyone is ok. They're ok! They didn't die!
Then the computer finishes that attack run and then they get progressively faster.
Then it drops to TTT and asks if we want to play a game
On the hour, they all reset
Does all that make sense?
well yeah
but to be honest I'm not very impressed
I mean the visuals and stuff may look cool
The interactivity, the coordinated updates, the ability to generate those things on the fly
those are what would impress people
being able to click a button? Pffft, childs play
forgot to add not
No I didn't ;)
no I mean I forgot
I'm for something with deeper meaning
20:59
ooooh, ok
I mean don't get me wrong this isn't a bad idea
 
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22:08
I find myself in a constant need to make a number of http requests in parallel; with either one err response or a number of them. Having done that myself a few times (with just a loop & counter), I'd like to use one that is more generic, and that others are using. Do you know if there's a library / micro-framework out there that will do this?
22:21
I'm not entirely sure what you just asked for @YuriyNemtsov
@jcolebrand I'd like to know if there's a library out there to which I can provide a number of URLs, a success callback method (for each), a single error callback; and possibly other options.
@jcolebrand This library would follow 301s, call the err-cb if any or all requests time-out, and fail.
So ... you want to accumulate errors and handle them all at once?
Or you want to die on the first error?
Exactly -- both; depending on the use-case. That would be one of the options in this util/library.
So you want magic then?
22:38
Doesn't everyone? No, but seriously, it seems like a common problem. Not just with http requests; but with async db calls, or other tasks that could be parallelized.
22:52
I don't see it as such, no. I see it as magic. Sorry, trying to handle four things at once
You either accumulate error messages, or you drop out at the first sign of one
those are two different scenarios
I saw that you posted a Q on SO so that's good
@jcolebrand so far, I'm leaning towards caolan/async; specifically -- async.parallel
for some reason, I saw this as you asking about a browser framework / plugin, even tho you're in the nodejs room
you'll have to forgive me that
have you seen futures? I know Raynos likes to tout that one a bit
np. -- I didn't have a very clear question. Nope, looking at 'future' now.
Ah, right I know them as Deferred (from dojo.Deferred)
I wasn't quite sure its what you needed, like I said, tracing several things atm to my dismay
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