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1:46 AM
Ugh.
> You voted to close this question Dec 25 '14 at 12:57
 
@Shepmaster I gotchu
I know why the only-close-vote-once rule exists but sometimes I think it should expire after a while
 
<3
yeah, seems like 1 year would be enough
@trentcl what's new in your world?
 
@Shepmaster well, my Scheme interpreter is technically Turing complete, so I'm pretty happy about that
just a toy but fun to do
 
@trentcl linky?
 
@Shepmaster not on GH currently
 
1:53 AM
Wouldn't you have to try hard to make it not Turing complete though?
 
@Shepmaster I only just implemented lambda
Actually the hardest part was not making it Turing complete
it was making it properly tail-recursive
it's a lot easier to do if you can just let the OS stack handle state for you
 
oh, yeah that does seem harder. You got any of those trampolines in there?
 
@Shepmaster No, I couldn't figure out how to make that work yet. So I have an interpreter with a stack-ish data structure and some special case code to recognize when the current expression is tail-recursive
Continuation passing style breaks my brain
But I want to have it figured out for the bytecode-compiled version eventually
There was a post on I think Reddit the other day about implementing a bytecode compiled language in Python that gave me some hope of eventually doing it
 
 
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1:27 PM
email is such a horrenously bad outdated thing
I'm trying to clean up my inbox
and downloading 6 thousand headers takes like 10 minutes
6 thousand headers is at most a megabyte, possibly 100kB compressed
there's absolutely no reason why this should take more than a second
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah I don't understand too
 
like dunno if IMAP is so bad just make a REST interface or whatever
sending can be still on SMTP, but downloading, seriously
web clients need to download the mail over the web anyway
 
1:46 PM
However, I can't vote again because I originally close voted it as a duplicate of a different question.
 
2:02 PM
yay, cleaned my inbox
Mutt gets my seal of approval
 
I'm sorry that my example wasn't enough which accesses common field only. Of course, I need to access not common field too. — QuietJoon 3 mins ago
are you kidding me
 
 
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3:39 PM
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays Would you like a text version of the review or should I put all 74+ nipticks into the PR Review?
 
4:01 PM
@набиячлэвэли 74+ nitpicks? That's a carpload of nitpicks
If most of them relate to the same problem, it might indeed be best to put them all in a single text block.
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays A bunch of them are the same thing on different lines
 
@набиячлэвэли Figured.
But yeah, post them as you wish, I can look into the PR shortly.
 
hmm I'll just put in the first instance of each and a lineset where they repeat
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays aye aye, cap'n
 
 
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5:07 PM
@набиячлэвэли Hot changes comin' up
 
5:22 PM
@набиячлэвэли Chill, it's the stuff you asked for, right?
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays oh worry not, I'm just always afraid of ~things~
 
> This kind of approach is possible in Haskell. You could copy&paste the code and run it.
No, you tell us. SMH
 
@Shepmaster Good to see you, Shep. :>
 
5:38 PM
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays ugh. I kind of wish I didn't feel like I need to work through this 3-4 day backlog
 
 
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6:51 PM
@набиячлэвэли What's with this reluctance to the use of Markdown back references?
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays What's with this incentive to use a misthought user-error-prone and decentralising (in a bad way, there was a word for that but it's slipped my mind) feature? :Р
 
@набиячлэвэли I actually find benefits in it: the documentation's source code becomes more readable, and it removes redundancy when the same link is given multiple times. Moreover, all the cool Rust guys use it.
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays Well, I'm no cool Rust guy. Hell, I've never been cool. The only Rust I am is a disaster Rust lesbian.
 
@набиячлэвэли Whelp. I'll be uncoolifying the code then. :]
 
Also I find inline links more readable because the URLs are right there
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays also there's been a good couple times I've PRed a dead-/mislink caused by the Kool Backreference Kidz :Р
I learn from others' mistakes (even if I was the one to fix them :Р)
 
7:10 PM
Changes are locally in. Will push them when the time is right.
 
7:27 PM
My key is malfunctioning again. Help.
Yes, the one that is missing in "WERTY".
@Shepmaster Just wondering: if you'd ever wish to push JVM stuff to the FFI omnibus, would you prefer a JNI-based approach, or some other glue for doing actual FFI?
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays H U M O N G U O U S T H O N K
xD
 
@набиячлэвэли whatev, it's fix'd
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays What did I tell you :Р
> user-error-prone
 
@набиячлэвэли Sure. That doesn't discard my arguments in favour of it. :>
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays But it does grant me prophecy credence :Р
 
7:40 PM
@набиячлэвэли :o Can it be.. the one... the Kwisatz Haderach?
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays Haven't read Dune, soz :v
 
So, this fizzbuzz Q over at CR... do you folks understand it?
 
yeah, superficially
the answer is get rid of L2 :Р
and of the explicit return statement
if by "simpler" OP means memory complexity, however, then Cow
but the root of the problem is that the OP is a Pythoneur
> Wanted to use &str as return value as it's immutable
someone didn't read The Rust Book
 
Hmm, so the OP does, as I often call it, "pitoniquices"?
 
you don't call it that often enough to've been picked up by gooble but prolly
(granted, I'm no expert on the (lack of) Python's type system)
 
7:54 PM
@набиячлэвэли I don't usually say it online. Ayone who doesn't speak Portuguese might not understand it nor find it minimally funny/provoking.
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays I don't, indeed, speak PT
 
@набиячлэвэли So there you have it. It's supposed to be somewhat funny and provoking. :>
 
Provoking? In my PG13 chat?
banned
 
@набиячлэвэли Let's see... are provocations a kind of subtle put down?
 
I mean.. no?
not in any of the languages I speak
granted, you can provoke with a putdown but not necessarily the other way
 
8:01 PM
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays were I writing it, I’d probably start with JNI. There’s no reason to have only one though.
 
@Shepmaster Hmm. I've been noticing an intriguing trend towards GraalVM, so I guess we can at least keep it in mind whenever we think about expanding the omnibus.
JNI is also good to include of course, although it implies an extra adaptation layer on the native side AFAIK.
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays while Graal is intriguing, I'm not sure how it ties into FFI
 
@Shepmaster Graal makes strong claims of being polyglot, so unless the process is trivial, there may be someone asking how to call Rust functions from another language on top of Graal.
@Shepmaster Do the same rules of "don't answer dupes" apply at Code Review?
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays not 100% sure but I don’t think so.
 
8:58 PM
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays looks pretty trivial cornerwings.github.io/2018/07/graal-native-methods but that doesn’t mean someone doesn’t need it spelled out
 
9:08 PM
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays I've seen the beautifully granular 14 commits pop up in e-mail but I'll look over them tomorrow because I need to go to sleep if I don't want to drop out :Р
also nice answer on that CR quostian
 
9:32 PM
@Shepmaster thx
 
9:48 PM
@Stargateur no problem! Just grinding through my backlog :-)
 
@набиячлэвэли That's all right. I don't think I'm done yet.
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays winterbash is over. You can take your hat off.
 
@Shepmaster which one ?
 
@Stargateur yes :-D
 
10:16 PM
I like my small tower of hats.
What I don't like is having comments to flag and no flags left for today. :<
 
 
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