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2:36 AM
cabbage
Did you get your sim running @kevin?
 
 
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5:22 AM
cbg
 
6:11 AM
^ closed for unclear.
 
6:39 AM
tell me something new
 
nothing new on SO... all duplicates
 
@cs95 Hi!
hm, something new...
Nier Automata is the best game that you will never play.
 
6:56 AM
sounds about right :P
 
to be clear, I'm a non-gamer by situation, not by choice
if I had a gaming rig I'd probably be playing something or the other
only got macs lying around the house unfortunately
@Aran-Fey sounds about right too :(
 
Ah, i see i see. I feel your pain
For what it's worth though, you really aren't missing out on a lot. Not many games are worth playing frankly.
There's really two big categories. Games you play because it lets you play with friends, which means you yourselves are generating adventures as you go. Those seem to be the most popular these days. The other is where the game itself gives you an experience worth remembering. The latter don't really come up often anymore it feels.
 
I subscribed to Shadow for a couple months to play an NFS game. Great service but it's too expensive for a prolonged subscription.
minor caveat with shadow ^: you need good internet and you also need to be situated in california where they host their server farms
google stadia's coming out in a couple months. Hopefully you won't need to be in california to use it.
 
Oh, interesting. There's the new trend of streaming games that companies seem to be pushing for. Ofcourse, me being where i am, there's no chance i get anything remotely playable due to geolocation :P
Not anytime soon anyways.
Not a fan of the model personally though honestly.
I'd rather hand pick games i want to play, instead of pay a bulk for stuff i really don't care about. Just personal opinion.
 
7:04 AM
I can imagine anyone with piss poor internet would not be a fan :P
 
And that too :P
 
advantage of board games: 0 ping
 
Disadvantage. you need friends.
cue sad lonely music here
 
indeed, good friends are harder to find than good internet
 
RL gets messy. It's tough to meet up often with the friends you really care about as often as you'd like, especially once everyone starts having work and other responsibilities. So even with some good friends, getting together is the real hurdle.
So when we do end up meeting up, it's usually just to catch up and talk, maybe enjoy some good food and so on. I don't really regret not having more time though to hang out, every little bit helps.
Stay in touch with your good friends from college yeah?
 
7:09 AM
plus there's also what I like to called weekend inertia. When you start working, you realise how rare a commodity weekends are. I usually sit at home and catch up on the weekly anime releases or go cross country biking.
 
Haha yeah. Oh cross country biking sounds pretty fun!
 
friends from college... hmm... not many around me. There are a few though
Aug 1 at 18:45, by cs95
I've started riding a bike to work. Who knew riding a bike was fun + good exercise! ;D
 
Heh, i wish i could cycle to work. You'd probably die if you attempted to cycle to work where i am :P
 
yes, if the pollution doesn't kill you first, someone running over you probably will
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Pretty much :D
alright, i better make some use of my weekend inertia, rbrb!
 
7:22 AM
and an rbrb from me
 
8:00 AM
cabbage
 
8:29 AM
oh hey cbg
braino link
 
8:40 AM
cbg @ParitoshSingh
 
9:37 AM
@User1973 yes, unsolicited job offers are textbook spam, especially on Stack Overflow. Even ignoring this, we ask in our rules that you don't ask for help with fresh questions here. That's two wrongs.
@MisterMiyagi please don't enable sketchy behaviour
 
 
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11:47 AM
@ReblochonMasque Partially. With the parameters you provided, the two planets orbit around the sun in a stable configuration for 30+ years. I consider this a problem, since it contradicts the output of your sim, and also the consensus among our physics-minded friends that this system should not be stable.
Although... Nobody gave an estimate of the timeline of the system's breakdown, so maybe it's unstable over the course of thousands of years, and no deviation is observable when you only view the system for decades.
 
ok - my sim is, as I said, very naive; it is possible that numerical errors are the cause of the instability.
IMO, 30 years is a very short time to show instability.
When I realised how slow the thing was running, I tweaked the mass of the bodies in motion to see some action.
This is what I posted yesterday.
I spent the day trying to sit down at my desk, to reprogram the sim in a more palatable fashion...
It is 8pm, and interruptions have subsided, at last, but now I am tired! O_o
Oh well, there is always tomorrow!
 
12:04 PM
My own sim isn't doing anything special. Calculate forces based on mass and distance, then use force to calculate acceleration, which is used to update velocity, which is used to update position. I suspect real sims use actual calculus, since Andras was charitably assuming that I'm using an "integrator"
 
Yes, that's the way I do it too.
 
what are you guys simulating anyways?
 
@Kevin indeed
@Kevin yes, sounds like simplest Euler method. Very unstable.
 
12:38 PM
Hi guys.....
 
Hello
 
Hi all! I have a series of lists, where we have n roots, which branch up to one or more parents and so forth until the bottom. I have made a graph of all these connections, but I want to use a gnp random graph (networkx package) to create the edges
How could I do this?
The code I have so far is this for the hierarchy gist.github.com/ryankshah/cedadd9c509ff880f787900a669631cb
 
you already do use nx.fast_gnp_random_graph - what problem do you need help with exactly?
 
Well that generates a random graph of n nodes with some probability for the edges
I want to generate the edges of probability to set up a set of nodes in conflict
Working with the hierarchy i already have
That line there is a placeholder so i know what func to use
 
12:58 PM
Weekend cbg :)
@cs95 nice, I used to ride too, but mine's so close (~900m), I often choose to walk instead, unless the heat is unbearable.
 
1:22 PM
Re: the planet sim, I don't understand why there would ever be any instability. In the purely hypothetical and practically impossible scenario where two bodies form at the exact same time with equal mass and orbit in perfect opposition, what is the force that causes the instability?
 
If the starting point is symmetric it should stay that way, like a pencil standing on its tip. But I think @Kevin wanted to add a small asymmetry. And in any case numerical integration will more likely than not break exact symmetry.
The fact that the state doesn't collapse on its own means it's in equilibrium (of sorts), but if any small perturbation makes it collapse it's unstable equilibrium (just like the pencil)
 
are you simulating a two body or multi-body problem?
 
3, Sun–Earth–counter-Earth
 
with the Sun being significantly heavier than both planets?
 
I think so. I've lost track.
@ReblochonMasque you should not be using such large/small numbers. Double precision diminishes that way. Rescale to have as many numbers as close to 1 as possible
 
1:43 PM
@ParitoshSingh funny coincidence, i started nier:automata today again to finally finish it, after a break of a year or so
 
Haha, nice! I only discovered the game recently, and Im so sad i didn't really hear about it sooner.
What an experience.
 
am I the only one who struggled with the first boss? And promptly uninstalled because the game forces you to redo the entire ~30(?) minute intro again every time?
 
ouch. I don't think you're the only one, but I managed to do it because i was chugging the heal things like crazy. I think i almost ran out. The bigger issue was i had absolutely no idea what i was doing, and went in blind.
Fwiw, the story is worth it, if you are willing to give it a try
 
Isn't that the game with the blind(folded?) android? Going in blind is only fitting :P
 
groan :p
It is!
 
1:49 PM
I gave it another shot a couple of months later, but that time I rage quit again while I was still going through the settings
 
Wow
 
it's probably better with a controller, I imagine
 
Oh, yeah i imagine it's great on a controller too. I played on PC, definitely frustrating control wise in some moments.
 
@AndrasDeak bad UI is generally a deal-breaker for me when it comes to games :D
 
No kidding :D
You should go into QA
 
1:51 PM
I think that would be torture for me
 
Yeah but think of all the high-quality products
 
it's a shame though, 'cause I really enjoy the game's music and the visuals also look nice
 
you should make people play it slow (sloth-crawl?) and watch them stream
 
I actually caught a few streams and 90% of the gameplay I saw was people running from place A to place B ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I have a friend that did the same, they lost to the first boss and was like nope. I thought it was really good, got all the main endings and 1/4 of all the endings.
 
1:56 PM
The music is definitely one of tje best things about the game. You can enjoy that on its own too =)
 
I actually disliked how they called it "different endings". It's an injustice to the game if you don't experience the main endings, because frankly, they should be called more like "Acts" in a play.
 
I played the predecessor before, so the controls and playstule weren't something i had to learn, luckily
 
The play isn't really over till you finish all 3 acts so to speak.
Ah i see. The controls were fairly intimidating at the start
I accidentally discovered dodging, the game's tooltips were pretty useless in explaining it for pc controls. Also, only accidentally discovered that we could use mouse to attack, once again the tooltips were disappointing with that regards
 
And then there's multiple endings to the final act, IIRC. It's just seemed like filler endings to get 24 endings.
 
Huh
 
1:59 PM
It only really became playable after that point. I can imagine how frustrating it is not being able to go through the first phase
 
Well, i play on ps4 so... i huess it's easier there
 
(for context. the game tooltip recommends something like / or K or something really random for attacks on keyboard.) It's PRETTY bad.
ALso, the dodging is horrid on PC, takes getting used to.
 
@ParitoshSingh yeah, stopping after ending A would do the game a huge injustice
You have barely scratched the surface of the story at that point
 
I almost did.
 
=0
 
2:01 PM
I just decided to google based off of the message that popped up at the end, And some reddit post said that playthroughs offer completely new content.
Otherwise, i'd have had no idea that there was so much more left in the game.
 
recbg
 
Cbg
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah, I'm interested in the outcome of starting states with small asymmetries. And yes, the star is much heavier than the planets. So far I've using the real-world masses of the Sun and Earth.
 
Good idea @AndrasDeak
 
@wim noice. Though it would have been nicer if ----BDFL---- BDEVIL used my answer to do argumentum ad auctoritatem ;)
 
2:10 PM
yes @MisterMiyagi, 3 bodies, two have the same characteristics, the third is more massive & starts static
 
@Kevin note that the heavier the planets the faster they have to go to balance their mutual attraction. You can still compute G m M/R^2 + G m^2/(2R)^2 = m v^2/R for both planets, and if m<<M then the correction is negligible.
I just forgot to account for this until now. With Sun vs Earth the speed difference should be negligible.
 
I think the orbital period is independent of mass @AndrasDeak
 
v^2 = G M/R + G m / 4R
v = v_2body * (1 + m/4M)
 
i/e velocity
 
@ReblochonMasque for a 2-body system
Pop another body across the Sun -> it will add additional attraction pulling off Earth from its orbit inwards
 
2:19 PM
I think I'll spend the rest of the weekend trying to remember how to do Runge-Kutta
 
Ah, ok, maybe @AndrasDeak
@Kevin, look up the leapfrog finite difference approximation scheme - this is what seems to be used to integrate such systems.
 
I remember the college class where I learned it. I got the impression that the professor wanted to get us really enthusiastic for ordinary differential equations. There were only six of us, which is a good number for establishing a Dead Poet's Society of math appreciation. Unfortunately we all just wanted to put in a B+ effort and save our energy for our actual major courses.
If only I had put in an A- effort, then maybe I'd still remember how to use those methods ;_;
 
Don't regret anything, memory entropy always gets you in the end, and you have to look it up!
 
Meh, I liked numerical analysis and learned Runge–Kutta (I still remember they were called Karl David Tolmé Runge and Martin Wilhelm Kutta). And I'd have to look it up (especially with so many variants).
 
I only know like three actual things. The rest of my memory is just signposts that point vaguely in the direction of where I can find information in the real world
I don't know what __truediv__ does, but I remember the page where I can look it up. Or, actually, no I don't. But I know what google query I can use to find it.
 
2:31 PM
That's all it takes to be good.
 
Has anyone set up a Flask app with static content served by NginX? I finally have my site online but it's entirely borked. My first thought was that NginX didn't have permission to read the static files but fixing that doesn't seem to help so I'm looking for high-level suggestions on what I might research and try next
 
Django or pyramid or bottle ;)
 
The content itself loads at this point, but none of the static files will load: 167.99.91.216 (it's self-cert until I can get it running so you'll get a security warning)
 
Can confirm 403 on your image
 
@AndrasDeak don't even... :P I've been up since 6am fighting this and it's driving me a little nuts :/
 
2:37 PM
:(
 
You'll get like ~15 403s but I'm almost sure at this point it's not a permission error on reading the static files
 
Ok, I'll spend half of my weekend looking at Leapfrog integration, and the other half on Runge-Kutta. Not because the latter is useful necessarily, but because I must satisfy my nostalgia.
 
@roganjosh are paths and whatnot correct? (I can only rubber duck)
@Kevin RK is useful, you won't regret it in some possible future timeline
 
I typed the path out 4 times, and there's other places in nginx config where you have to type the same path to even get it to load, so I'm pretty confident on that
 
You could also look up integrators that planet people actually use
 
2:44 PM
@AndrasDeak could you do me a favour and try that link again please? You might actually have been an extremely useful rubber duck here because I now have an error that I didn't get when I load it myself (for whatever reason)
 
Same result
Same error?
 
ok, it didn't raise the error that time, but it's a crucial error because it seems it's not loading environment variables properly. Thanks
 
No problem
 
3:22 PM
rbrb
 
3:40 PM
Are you issues related to tensorflow discussed here?
 
Rarely, but sometimes Tensorflow is discussed
 
3:55 PM
I have installed it, but while importing it shows that there aren't such modules.
 
<throws towel in>. That's me done for today. I flap around in linux like a fish out of water on new things, I just don't get how it's intuitive at all. Everything is just "-l -v -r -- something >> something" and it makes no sense to me whatsoever. I don't get how people can intuit ssh -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -C -N -l sammy your_server_ip (in a guide and I now want to reverse the installation)
 
``` Successfully installed absl-py-0.7.1 astor-0.8.0 gast-0.2.2 google-pasta-0.1.7 grpcio-1.23.0 h5py-2.9.0 keras-applications-1.0.8 keras-preprocessing-1.1.0 markdown-3.1.1 numpy-1.17.0 protobuf-3.9.1 setuptools-41.2.0 six-1.12.0 tensorboard-1.14.0 tensorflow-1.14.0 tensorflow-estimator-1.14.0 termcolor-1.1.0 werkzeug-0.15.5 wheel-0.33.6 wrapt-1.11.2
ajay@ajay-Lenovo-ideapad-300-15ISK:~$ python
Python 2.7.15+ (default, Nov 27 2018, 23:36:35)
[GCC 7.3.0] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 
Why are you in Python 2?
 
Looks like you installed it for a different python version (python3?)
 
Oh, thanks. Solved!
 
4:06 PM
@roganjosh that's because you're impacted by windows
 
Don't doubt it at all
 
On linux we have manpages and helps :P
 
I really have to get to grips with Linux
 
This is not to say everything's intuitive, everything takes learning. And unix tools often prefer concise switches as you say. You look them up. And things like tar -cvzf can easily become habit.
 
There's only so far I can go with c/p from guides.
 
4:12 PM
graphical user interfaces ftw. That's all I have to say
 
Even that's a mare on Droplet :P
That's where my previous command came from: their guide
And then I find that VNC truncates my password to between 6 and 8 chars, so now I fear for the security of the web server
 
wow
sometimes I think we're still in the stone age
 
I'm glad you support me on that, I thought I was going nuts :P
 
hey all
I have a question for today :)
I've got a file with timestamps on every line and a corresponding text file, I need to output the line of text as per the corresponding timestamp. What would be the best way to go about it?
Do I make the program sleep for the interval?
As in if the timestamps are like 0, 5, 7... Do I print first line, sleep for 5s, print second line, sleep for 2s and so on?
 
4:29 PM
A better way would be to use SQLite and index the timestamps
 
How would that be better?
 
The last line before my comment makes the question unclear
print where?
 
The timestamps are relative, print to the console
It's basically syncing lyrics
So now I need to print the synced lyrics using the timings.
 
So what im reading, you're reading some kind of timed message posts, and want it to mimic the time delays?
Ah, song lyrics, makes sense. I mean, sure, print and sleep can work. But my first impression would be that there's something better than just sleeping.
 
Yeah same, but I'm not sure what
 
4:34 PM
How do you know the sleep time?
 
Since the timings are sensitive I don't want the time spent in processing to offset it.
 
You want a mix of while True, sleep and time.clock(). I'll find some code I've done this for.
 
0.0
5.636571428571428
12.682285714285713
18.31885714285714
24.66
The timings are in a file like this
 
So the sleep is each row - the time of the previous row?
 
Or threads or things like celery
 
4:35 PM
@roganjosh yes
 
You can use shift to calculate the sleeps?
 
If all you want is to print after a certain amount, I've got an answer that uses uniform times. You'd want to mutate the third code block to use non-uniform times.
 
@AndrasDeak I don't know which is the optimal solution here
 
Yeah, calculating the time to sleep is a non issue, assuming the program execution itself doesn't add a significant amount of delay (which it very well might given enough messages). However, I immediately dislike the idea of relying on 1. locking the main execution completely and 2. expecting the code to not add up delays. There must be a better way. Looks like there's something called schedule that may or may not do the trick.
But I think essentially, explore library options that use threads and "fixed" times to fire things ,rather than relying on offsets. You can calculate the "fixed" time upfront using offsets, sure, but don't have commands tighly coupled to each other.
 
@ParitoshSingh what do you mean by "fixed"?
 
4:41 PM
Though now im wondering, perhaps Go for the time sleep route to get a "working prototype" first.
 
@ParitoshSingh ",rather than relying on offsets" I don't get it
 
Yeah let me try to get that working and see how it goes
 
@aadibajpai fixed in the sense that I think "fire task at 3.01am" and "fire task at 3.02am" is better than "fire something after 1 minute" and "fire something 1 minute after the previous task"
@roganjosh My bad, i didn't manage to convery it properly.
 
Maybe if the time taken to execute is not insignificant
 
@ParitoshSingh I see
 
4:43 PM
Essentially, mitigate the "delay creep" by scheduling things to fire at fixed times
Rather than a sequential offset one after the another that only gets checked "after"you have completed a task.
However, devil's advocate? self anti advocate? Perhaps it is better to get a "working prototype" with sleep first. See how good/bad it works
 
@ParitoshSingh In the answer I linked to a print and time.sleep() solution adds a 6% delay.
 
@ParitoshSingh You can have both. Keep track of nominal times, account for shift in each sleep call.
 
@ParitoshSingh realist :P I see your point now :)
 
@AndrasDeak I presume re-measure the current time after a task is done? That seems sensible.
 
Yup
 
4:46 PM
Yeah, i didn't think of that immediately. I like that for a first attempt for sure.
 
Hi everyone I have a question
Can someone explain the results of the first test case? Why isn't it 3?
 
@RaphX 10x10 + 2x 5x5 indeed should work
You should ditch that site
 
^ I'm finding these problems so abstract and unhelpful
 
I suspect they are crowdsourced. Think SO main.
 
codechef actually runs the qualifying olympiad for IOI in India
 
5:01 PM
Those are either curated or it's very sad.
...what's IOI?
 
International Olympiad for Informatics
Competitive programming
 
Ah
"Informatics" is a confusing name for programming
 
Thanks, i was thinking I was doing something wrong @AndrasDeak
 
Essentially, mass psychosis of college kids. Bless their souls.
 
in some context's, informatics means computer science
 
5:30 PM
Does SO give honorary gold badges or privileges? Like if GVR created an account he might get honorary privileges for the python tag without needing to earn rep.... but then I guess it would be impossible to verify an account
 
So I did a test run using Finesse and calculating the offsets beforehand
from time import sleep

# load timings
with open('finesse.swag') as f:
	times = f.readlines()

times = list(map(float, times))

# load lyrics
with open('finesse.txt') as f:
	lyrics = f.readlines()

offsets = []
for i in range(1, len(times)):
	offsets.append(times[i]-times[i-1])

def time_giver():
	for time in times:
		yield time

timer = time_giver()

for lyric in lyrics:
	if lyric.startswith(('[', '\n')):
		print(lyric, end='')
	else:
		sleep(next(timer))
		print(lyric, end='')
gets slow tbh
So I think the next step would be mitigating processing time
 
@aadibajpai I would consider using 4 spaces btw (not that it will improve the efficiency). But I would do it to follow the PEP 8 style guide. In general, I would try following the style guide associated with a language as it makes it easier for others to incorporate your code into their projects. There are exceptions: i.e. if your company says otherwise or if you're making trivial bindings from a language with clashing preferences.
 
@Dair I usually set tab to 4 spaces (soft tabs) but I was actually using Sublime here and not PyCharm so we're at hard tabs unfortunately.
 
if sublime really can't support 4 space soft tabs it's not a text editor worth using imho.
 
It can, I just haven't gotten around to do it yet
I use Sublime for one-off scripts and quick testing so I don't really worry about this stuff
did it :)
 
5:46 PM
@Dodge no
@aadibajpai better: yield from times. Best: time_giver = iter(times).
 
@AndrasDeak so I start a clock initially and before every print statement I check the calculated time using the times list as well as the actual time elapsed using the clock then adjust for the difference?
@AndrasDeak wow didn't know that could be done, first time actually needing to use a generator. Thanks!
I did try to see if the next iterator call would work on the list
 
@aadibajpai yes, I think
I don't know if a timer or time.time or something similar is more reliable
 
tbh I would just get rid of time_giver entirely, and just use iter(times) explicitly.
 
I'm thinking that the difference calculator might introduce difference itself but it should be a step up
@Dair yea, I removed the function in favour of timer = iter(times)
 
I've been trained under the school of thought that you shouldn't add "excessive" variable names. However, "excessive" as I have presented it is by no means well-defined. But then again, I will add variable names for sub-components of formulas i.e. dist = , so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
5:57 PM
@AndrasDeak Timeit exposes an alias to the most reliable
 
@Peilonrayz I'm talking about elapsed time since start, not runtime.
Unless you mean some other timer and not timeit.timeit
 
Yeah, I mean the clock it uses internally and exposes publically
 
offsets = []
for i in range(1, len(times)):
	offsets.append(times[i]-times[i-1])
I feel like this can be improved but idk offhand.
 
You can zip it
 
@Peilonrayz okay
 
6:00 PM
This should do it:
 
zip it good
 
offsets = [curr - prev for curr, prev in zip(times[1:], times)]
 
@Peilonrayz Is there a performance penalty tho? I guess I would need to profile.
 
@Dair yeah, list comprehensible easily.
 
yet, usually if someone is just using vanilla python and they want good performance I would just recommend not using python in the first place lol.
 
6:02 PM
IDK, at most it'd be a couple of usecs.
 
usually I try to make the mvp first then worry about optimizations once it works
 
@aadibajpai I'd say this is alright. But also keep in mind the more theoretical optimizations because a lot of those optimization result in massive code restructures. (Still all a rule of thumb)
 
@Dair mostly memory (making a copy). Hence sopython.com/canon/16/…
 
Yeah the pairwise recipe's good
 
I like how over the years I've forgotten more python syntax but can now look at good and just be like: I'm pretty sure there is a better way and it probably has something related to section X in the docs.
still not there with math, but hopefully some time soon I will be haha.
 
6:15 PM
if you worry about time drifts, is there any reason why you guys want to compute the offsets beforehand?
 
I don't :P
 
@MisterMiyagi I was testing to see how bad it is
It is noticeably bad
@AndrasDeak this is the best way to do this?
 
@aadibajpai zipping every other item, yes. Not necessarily needed for your problem. And for small lists the original slice zip suffices and is easier to read
 
@AndrasDeak 60-70 counts as small, right?
 
Probably
 
6:29 PM
is the size of your timings even significant against your other data? don't lyrics take up much more space?
 
Hmm?
 
am I babbling nonsense again? didn't have a coffee for 24 hours :/
 
I'm just unsure about your point. Doesn't mean it's wrong.
 
I'm not sure why size matters
 
it matters because the itertools.tee approach is mostly superior for large iterables, otherwise you're perfectly fine zipping lst with lst[1:]
 
6:36 PM
ah, I got confused since you compared it to lyrics
 
well, there is no point saving memory for a few offsets if you have large amounts of text in memory at the same time
goes looking for a coffee
 
Probably, yeah.
 
so I'll actually play the music right before that for lyric in lyrics loop
hence any previous calculation doesn't matter
 
He means on a high level. Since for each time you have a lot of strings then one int per line probably accounts for a small part of your memory, otherwise the lyrics wouldn't fit in memory. This is just an abstract way of saying that no song has 60M lines of lyrics.
 
7:28 PM
@MisterMiyagi I presume you have your reasons, but beware amir.rachum.com/blog/2017/03/03/generator-cleanup or at least check it out if you haven't already.
@AndrasDeak Do you have like a team of people working your account. I can't remember the last time I dropped in and you weren't here.
 
Umm...we're most definitely not three people in a trenchcoat
 
:)
 
7:44 PM
@holdenweb once the coroutines are running, cleanup is no problem - my problem was with freshly created coroutines waiting in a queue
 
Ah, kinda like cancelling a promise?
 
I've ended up closing them in the Queue's __del__
yes, exactly
 
OK. Don't like using__del__, but that's a good use for it.
Anyway rbrb all.
 
rbrb
 
 
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9:46 PM
What's your preferred Python freelancing site? Is there one that is known to have high-quality developers?

(I'm someone who hires, not someone who freelances.)
 
I believe there's an official python job board python.org/jobs
(that being said I don't have anything to do with freelancing)
 
10:16 PM
@User1973 do you program yourself?
My sister is in the recruitment game for programmers and she swears by LinkedIn. We're scattered all over the world in this room but I'm not aware of a "tried and tested" database to pull from
 
10:37 PM
no need for a specific example, thanks
 
ping, ping, ping
 
@AndrasDeak and @roganjosh
Sorry, I should have been more specific. By "freelancing" I small tasks.
Example: If you figure out how to solve a small problem then I"ll give you $200 bucks.
 
there are things like codementor which might be appropriate. SO is not.
 
Wups, I was editing.
 
Enough of this. It's a silly place.
 
10:39 PM
@AndrasDeak Yes, that's why I was asking what people's preferred freelancing site is. I'm not trying to solicit anyone on SO (despite the awkward link).
 
Yes you are, whether you think so or not. I just followed the link. I'd suggest putting a bounty on it but you don't can't.
 
@roganjosh All I was trying to do is provide context as to the size of freelancing task I was trying to inquire about. I want to hire people to solve my problems that haven't been solved on stack overflow. An answered question on SO seemed like a pertinent example (in terms of scale).
Anyhow, this topic is obviously not working out. So never mind.
 
@User1973 you should have thought more about said pertinence considering your earlier spam
For what it's worth I don't think your new question is problematic, you just didn't ask it very well. It's just that we who are here now don't have anything specific in mind. Others might later. Weekends have low traffic.
 
Ok. I'll try to ask better questions at more appropriate times. Have a good one.
 
@User1973 FWIW I don't have a clue for solving the questions you've asked about recently. Even if I took the wage, I'd still be guessing
 
10:53 PM
You too
 

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