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1:09 AM
Hello all. I'm trying to improve my fork of chpython and I'd be grateful if a few of you would share the values of the env vars in your terminals, of PYTHONUSERBASE, PYTHONHOME, and PYTHONPATH, along with the OS - it'd be nice if the changes play nice on other people's systems! Any help is much appreciated.
 
The former two are unset, and my PYTHONPATH is set to :/d/Users/Aran-Fey/Desktop/folder/coding/python:;D:\Users\Aran-Fey\Desktop\folder\coding\python; (it looks weird, I know, but I need it like that). That's on Windows 10
 
Has anyone come across any good projects that allow you to write SQL queries to search a json?
 
That doesn't really make sense, does it? SQL is designed for tabular data, but JSON isn't tabular
 
Thanks @Aran-Fey, much appreciated
@DemCodeLines Postgres can store JSON, and there's a special syntax for accessing it. Take a look at the docs, maybe it's what you're looking for? postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-json.html
 
1:25 AM
I was referring to something like this:
31
Q: Javascript libraries that allow for SQL-like queries on JSON data?

b_devSay our JSON data comes from a single MySQL table: someJSON = [ { name: 'bill' , sex:'M', income:50000 }, { name: 'sara' , sex:'F', income:100000 }, ... ]; And say the pseudo-code is: "Get all the person objects of all sex:F of income > 6000...

 
@DemCodeLines You're looking for a way to query JSON in a SQL-like way, but not necessarily store the JSON in a SQL database? What's the goal - is it to search JSON or to mock an API (like the question) or…?
 
It's to search the JSON. I'm trying to provide a way to front-end users to filter data using SQL queries. Similar to how JIRA has JQL, which allows you to filter through items.
 
1:50 AM
cbg
 
@DemCodeLines I'm guessing you only need something similar to the WHERE clause then. I don't know of anything in particular, sorry, but I'd probably hack together something using regex and pass that off to a dedicated JSON search engine (depending on the size of the JSON).
 
@iain Any recommendations for a JSON search engine?
 
2:12 AM
I wrote a package called littletable (at the time Google was pitching their BigTable), which offers some SQL-ish access to a homogeneous list of items. It easily imports csv and JSON data into a Table, and then supports a Python API to access it. Unlike most ORMs, which define a ResultSet for the collection of records returned from a query, littletable queries against a Table return another Table, making it easy to chain operations.
 
If the dataset is small, and I'll assume it's a browser, then I'd use client side js. If it's big then I'd dump it into a Postgres JSONB and pass on the query, but that's because I know it. I'm sure some others will pipe in with their (probably better) suggestions. I'll be giving PaulMcG's suggestion a looksee at some point too :)
 
 
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4:42 AM
May I request this be reviewed and give me feedback to improve the negative votings: stackoverflow.com/questions/58902130/…
 
recbg
@variable There you go
 
5:11 AM
hello
i am writing some text to file but it ocassionally contains some chinese characters
so i get unicode error
how to either ignore such charaters or change encoding to include them
 
If you're getting an exception, you can just catch it and ignore it
to include them you should have a look at the unicode .encode()/.decode() functions
 
but then the line contaning the character gets excluded I only want the said character excluded
nevermind i set errors value in open function call to replace and that ser
serves my case
thanks @jigglypuff
 
nps
 
 
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7:19 AM
cbg
 
cbg
 
7:45 AM
cbg
 
 
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9:11 AM
cbg
 
9:33 AM
cbg
 
Hi guys, In flask (example - flask.palletsprojects.com/en/1.1.x/patterns/appfactories/…), Is there any advantage of using the parameter for the factory method ? For example we could even - not use the parameter and replace app.config.from_pyfile(config_filename) with app.config.from_pyfile(os.getenv('env_var', 'dev')) ? What do you think?
 
10:12 AM
Hey guys, I am finally in the >1k reputation club :D (I am one of the cool kids now)
 
@SebastianNielsen congrats!
 
@U10-Forward how well do you know flask?
@SebastianNielsen thanks to the rep recalc, right?
 
10:29 AM
What is that?
 
Hey guys
 
I mean, I just logged onto SO today and saw that my rep suddenly was 1,100 something, instead of ~800 as it had been for a while.
 
Quick question
is it considered safe to pause the BackgroundScheduler of APIScheduler in one of its jobs?
 
@SebastianNielsen that's a "yes"
 
10:50 AM
@variable I did not downvote, but close voted as "opinion based". For starters, you still ask three questions -- the title, the "My question is that", and one in the text -- all of which require different answers. At this point, you are already asking people to gamble away their time to guess what question needs a satisfactory answer for you.
Your initial question could be paraphrased as "If I do <complex thing> X, why should I do <complex thing Y> instead of anything else, based on <trivial code Z>?"; asking why is already very hard to answer, but why to do something complex for a trivial example is basically futile. So people would basically have to ignore all your question and come up with an entirely unrelated scenario where stacking two complex things is worth it.
 
Yeah, unclear. I'm only refraining to see if I have to hammer it back.
 
Now, the "3 options" question. Option 1 is a prosaic diff to apply to another code snippet -- that again takes quite a bit of work for people to decode. There is also a question hidden there, making it more of a guess. Option 2 defeats the purpose of doing all the complex, which you admit. So another decoy that people need to figure out. Option 3 actually seems like the most appropriate, but you provide zero code. So it is totally unclear whether you understand it correctly.
Finally, your question is still very unpleasant to read. The starting link does not relate to your question at all, other than providing the first code snippet (which is not obvious, by the way). Whitespace is off-putting, with useless empty space right before very tight code blocks. On top, there some minor stumbling blocks such as abbrevitions (I guess foll. means following?), missing code formatting in the text, plus some typos and inconsistencies.
 
11:09 AM
I have given the scenario - that is - only 4 routes
updated the code now.. and foll.=following - updated that too
All I am asking is - given that I want to use factory method, and want to register routes outside of the factory method (without using blueprints), then whether my options are valid options
 
 
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12:35 PM
import sys
start = int(input("starting value = "))
end = int(input("ending value = "))
step = input("step size = ")


def myrange(start, end, step): # range generator; creates a list of values to iterate over
    while start <= end:
        yield start
    start += step

outfile=open("parabola-data.txt", "w")
for x in myrange(start, end, step):
    outfile.write("%6.2f\t %9.2f\n" %(x, x**2))

outfile.close()
Why is this code of mine not working?
 
Hello. Please define "not working".
 
I want to write data into a text file...
The program is going into an infinite loop
 
Can you print start, end, step in your infinite loop case?
And why not use range(start, end, step)?
 
while start <= end:
    yield start
start += step
 
@Aran-Fey Yes?
 
12:37 PM
sigh. start += step is outside of the loop.
 
your "range generator" seems like a buggy reimplementation of range
 
Oh no... :-(
Thanks btw
;_;
 
Can you explain why you're not using range?
 
No specific reason. Ofcourse using range makes it look less clumsy... but I was learning about passing arguments to functions... so I just though to implement it here
 
Okay. Just be aware that one of python's strong suits is its "batteries included" philosophy: a lot of things are already implemented (and well) in the standard library. In case of range, as builtins.
 
12:42 PM
> (and well)
doubt
 
a lot of things are :P
 
Thanks @AndrasDeak
 
Like range.
 
12:57 PM
cbg
 
1:27 PM
Specification: "byte 0 indicates the size, in bytes, of the table. The end of the table is indicated with the byte sequence (33, 249)".
My parser: "This table has 256 elements. Its contents are: `(0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255, 33, 249, 4, [...])`. Error! unexpected end of file!"
🤔🤔🤔
I think a cosmic ray must have deleted 250 elements from my data
I guess I could ignore the table size field and just scan for (33, 249), and hope that nobody ever creates a table containing those numbers.
 
The spec uses a delimiter even though the size of the table is specified up front? Weird
 
I sanded off a couple corners from the actual problem description, but more or less. The format sacrifices a little efficiency for better fault tolerance. Except in my case.
 
Wait, if the size is a single byte, how can it have 256 elements? Shouldn't 255 be the max?
 
I don't see "possibility for two contradicting specifications for the size" to be redundancy.
if your parser uses both which one should it choose?
 
neither I guess (i.e. throw an error)
 
1:42 PM
But if it finds an end-of-table sequence, what should it do? Keep reeding and see if there's another one at the expected size? What if you run out of data?
 
Ok, I lied. The size is actually 2**(1+byte_zero). But still.
 
"no end-of-sequence signal in the entire table until SIZE" is one clear fault scenario at least (but incidentally it's not Kevin's)
 
So the size must be a power of two and yet you have a table that appears to have 6 elements. Yeah, something's b0rked
 
it's just very efficiently compressed
 
I am currently solving the problem by doing if filename == "badfile.dat": table_size = 6. Works great so far
The rest of the file parses great
@Aran-Fey Ok, I lied again. The size is actually 2**(1+byte_zero) RGB triplets, with three bytes per triplet. So at least when the table is six bytes, the number of triplets is a sensible power of two.
 
1:49 PM
perhaps the cosmic ray only affected the size byte
 
I may construct a MCVE later, if I can find a known good data file that's less than a megabyte
 
1:59 PM
In my attempt to construct a good data file that my parser fails on anyway, I found one that fails in the other direction: the table size is reported as 32 triplets, but (33,249) doesn't show up until 256*3 bytes later
 
2:10 PM
Cbg all
Catching up on the Winter minutes
 
2:25 PM
Ah ha. My bitfield unpacker had the wrong endianness.
One demerit to me for taking this long to manually locate the table size byte with a hex editor and cross-check it by hand against my program's reported value
It's almost always the tenth byte in the file so it's not hard to find
 
your unit tests should have caught that :>
surprising that a mistake like that didn't manifest sooner/all the time
 
I'm somewhat surprised that it didn't occur in my first two test files, yes
 
unless your bits were palindromes there...
 
Yeah. My guess is that for a typical file, the bitfield is always 0b11111111, so it doesn't really matter what direction I'm unpacking in.
 
sneaky
 
2:52 PM
Btw - I have a simple "stylus" override for chat on SO
Allows me to easily spot ROs. Based on some of the discussion during the meeting.
 
3:26 PM
Cant wait to finish writing my data encoder so I can encode the data in a way that is not, strictly speaking, forbidden by the specification, and then see how many data decoders choke and die on my quirky file
 
According to finest traditions
 
If my plan works, it will reduce file size by a factor of a hundred, which would be nice
 
oh, I thought the point was to break the decoders
 
3:44 PM
Most of the time my programs exist only as philosophical exercises meant to reveal the folly of man, but every once in a while I actually want to accomplish a practical goal.
 
mistakes happen
 
Surely you're just ironically revealing a meta-folly?
 
Yep, it's turtles all the way down
 
cabbages all around
 
4:12 PM
SyntaxError: future feature annotations is not defined
being in the future's past is no fun :/
 
then you should go back... to the future
 
nice! :P
 
4:49 PM
cbg
 
@inspectorG4dget TAKE MY STARS
 
@OldTinfoil ur suh major ! :P
 
Specification: "The first N bits of the data stream should equal 2^N. N varies but is usually 9"
The first nine bits of my data stream: `000000001`

Some highly advanced endianness going on here I think
 
5:08 PM
...one-based little endian?
or the specs forgot to account for one-based indexing in English
 
The next nine-bit word should convert to 251. The bits I actually see are 110111110, which I notice is bin(251) but backwards. I detect a pattern.
 
 
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6:18 PM
It seems like building dependency graphs for packages on pypi should be a solved problem, does anyone know if that's the case, and where I should look for that?
I suppose I should ask google first...
 
@AaronHall libraries.io
 
I remember an interesting blog or library about that...
 
pipdeptree?
 
can't find it
 
pypi.org/project/pipdeptree - looks like only good for "installed" pypi packages... so no dice...
 
6:40 PM
I have now confounded two decoders with data that should be valid. I include exactly and only what is required in the spec, and decoder #1 gives me "error: negative or zero size". Well, duh, I want it to be zero, that's why I didn't include any content.
 
Mar 22 '18 at 14:36, by Antti Haapala
PyPI dependency graphing... http://kgullikson88.github.io/blog/pypi-analysis.html interesting
That's what I remembered
 
ah, I'll look at that
@PaulMcG I'm looking at the source...
ruby, yuck :P
 
Today I learned two things about writing user style sheets: 1) It's less tedious than I thought it'd be, and 2) the easiest way to find elements you haven't styled yet is to use a ridiculous color scheme like this:
that blue stuff still needs work
 
7:31 PM
Nice to see you again Aran
Also, thanks for reminding me to reinstall my "black out" version of SO...
 
wim
7:42 PM
@AaronHall have you seen johnnydep ?
@AaronHall It's a more difficult problem than it seems at face value, because the list of dependencies can only be correctly determined by executing setup.py in the general case (the project metadata is not always reliable). And because we have these things called environment markers, the dependencies might change depending on operating system, platform, python version..
there is also long standing bugs in the index, for example if you uploaded a source distribution before a binary distribution then you could get different (or missing) metadata, compared with uploading the same binary distribution and then source distribution. so a lot of older projects have missing dependencies in PyPI api just because they uploaded in different order.
@PaulMcG interesting, did not know this one. I wonder where they scraped their data from
I thought it was github, but it can not be, because the numbers don't match up libraries.io deps vs github deps
 
8:03 PM
@MooingRawr yup, nice to see you too. Been a while
 
This was no MCVE, should it be downvoted/closed?
 
wim
@Aran-Fey Have you seen diana adrianne's CSS art?
e.g. diana-adrianne.com/purecss-zigario right-click and view-source 🤯 🤯
 
wow
 
Hey there!! someone knows how to cut a stream connection that requests.get(url) starts?
 
there aren't nearly as many HTML elements as I expected
You mean requests.get(url, stream=True)?
 
wim
8:13 PM
<div class="underboob left"></div> LMAO
 
the whole chest area is grouped under "shoulders" too
 
@Aran-Fey I am not sure, I've tried requests.get(url, stream=True) and requests.get(url, stream=True, timeout=5) but still connected forever and ever haha
 
You mean the function call never returns?
 
def connect_to_urls(url):
    data = requests.get(url, stream=False, timeout=5)
    return data
connect_to_urls(server3.webradios.com.br:9338/status-json.xsl)
never
my terminal is stucked
 
Is that... an audio stream?
If I set stream=True it returns instantly
 
8:25 PM
yes, it is
@Aran-Fey really?
 
is there something else in your code other than those lines that are getting stuck?
 
oh damn, you are right, I tried in a separate file here, and it works =x
haha
thanks for your help
actually
let me try again
yeap, I found that
    for item in value:
            try:
                response = requests.get(item, stream=True)
                data = json.loads(response.content.decode('utf-8'))
                print(data)
            except Exception as error:
                print(error)


"Response" is blocking the code, waiting for response and did not receiving, so it keeps the connection open
 
@OracyMartos edit, highlight, ctrl+k for code formatting. No backticks.
 
I did ctrl k
haha
 
but you have to select all, not just the code
Either everything is code in a message, or nothing is.
 
8:29 PM
ahh, right
srry
 
Why are we utf8-decoding and json-decoding an audio stream?
or is this a different url now
 
because I have 7k URLs, and some of them are "wrong"
audio stream, XML
then I need to handle each one by its specific function, but those url changes constantly
 
@wim thanks, I showed my coworker who's working on the problem your lib and your thoughts on the matter. I don't know what we'll do next.
 
if your get() is blocking, add a timeout
 
8:34 PM
I've added timeout, but if I put the get( ) into a variable, it still blocked, I don't know if I am doing something wrong or this function has a callback
import requests
import json

value = ['http://teste', 'http://cast4.audiostream.com.br:8651/status-json.xsl', 'http://server3.webradios.com.br:9338/status-json.xsl']

for item in value:
    try:
        response = requests.get(item, timeout=5)
        data = json.loads(response.content.decode('utf-8'))
        print(data)
    except Exception as error:
        print(error)
this is the code, and the print
 
I didn't say "remove the stream=True"
Really don't want to/can't download this audio stream all at once
 
I added with stream=True, and change without, test with both, but printed just without xD
srry.. yes..
 
ah, the response.content is the problem. That downloads everything despite stream=True
You need to figure out if it's JSON before you download everything. Somehow.
 
wim
you should have content type response headers
 
8:50 PM
 
@Kevin
thought you were trying to break chat for a second
 
So I've been trying to write a gif encoder and this is how far I've gotten. Is it visible to everybody? I don't know if I got all the application-specific headers necessary to render in most browsers.
 
oh yeah, there are content-type headers. I completely missed those when I checked if there was something useful in there
 
Right now all I can do is place 8*8 white or black squares, because those are the only sub-images whose LZW-compressed forms I worked out on paper
 
it renders fine for me
 
8:54 PM
yeah works for me on Chrome, Microsoft Edge and Explorer
 
wim
windows users: what can I do to append the PATH env var and have it stick?
 
As a user or as a programmer?
 
wim
as a user
windows pip installs scripts somewhere that is not on PATH
preferably a command I can copy paste, not an annoying list of places to click which look different in every windows version
 
It's 800 frames and 22 KB, which is a fair bit smaller than the equivalent file made by PILlow/ImageMagick
 
start > search environment variables > select PATH under System Variables > Edit...
will need Admin
 
wim
8:56 PM
I already put it there
it doesn't work
 
really? That's weird
 
wim
oh, LOL, I put it there when it was Python37 and now it's Python38
my bad
 
oopsie
Just use python27 and you don't need to worry about that ;)
 
setx PATH "%PATH%;C:\foo;C:\bar" if you hate clicking
 
wim
doesn't that only set for the current session, though?
 
8:58 PM
I read that as "sext path" and was immediately concerned about the state of affairs (no pun intended) in here
 
setx writes it to the registry, so it's permanent
though you likely need to reboot first
or type refreshenv into a terminal to load the changes there
 
Google tells me the reg command can be used to modify the permanentish environment variables in the registry. As always when playing with the registry, proceed at your own risk
 
I started working on another hpc cluster... there's a PYTHONPATH which causes virtualenvs to see global packages there. I had to hack the activate script to stop that.
 
superuser.com/a/1186777/116696 gives an example but it only got +1 so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
wim
'refreshenv' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
 
9:02 PM
@AndrasDeak you know, I can't help but feel that HPC admins really hate Python users...
 
@Kevin looking good on firefox
 
Ok, cool. Now to try it on my actual 9,000+ frame input.
 
@MisterMiyagi well PYTHONPATH isn't particularly esoteric...on this other cluster python 3.6 works out of the box, complete with numpy
 
wim
apparently listing env vars was SET
 
Obviously ;-)
 
wim
9:04 PM
but now in PS it's `Get-ChildItem Env:` , great improvement
😒
 
How else would you get something, if not SET?
 
@wim oh, my bad, apparently refreshenv ships with chocolatey. I thought that was builtin
 
The top half of S and G look similar so it's easy to remember
 
This ancient question needed more details and focus. But anyway it's probably obviated 5.5 years ago so not reusable either. So many reasons to close...
 
wim
and it truncates the PATH with ... sighs
ok, looks like it was putting to different place now..
..AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\Scripts
..AppData\Roaming\Programs\Python\Python38\Scripts
what's with the Local vs Roaming thing? is that a thing that matters?
 
9:10 PM
I've been wondering that myself, though I never actually bothered to research it
 
Exactly why I never have anything go in there...
just put everything in C:\ what could go wrong
"Roaming folder contains data that can move with the user profile from a computer to computer. Local folder contains data that cannot move with your user profile."
So it matters if you plan on using your user profile on different points of the network.
 
wim
hmm, so if I log on some other windows machine I can use apps installed on this one, if they are installed in Roaming?
 
I haven't tested it, but that seems to be what it's suggesting
 
wim
OK. I will eat my hat if it actually works
 
I mean it would probably work if you cloned your entire machine to another machine and then logged in there ;)
 
9:25 PM
@wim Sorry, I got sucked into doing some actual work today. I think they are just scraping setup.py or requirements.txt files. The thing about pyparsing is that, once it gets into packaging or pydot or matplotlib, it shows up in just about every requirements.txt file known to man. So the dependencies list for pyparsing is mostly useless.
 
Hello all :D
 
Hello
 
Hello just you
 
Cabbage!
 
Can i post the link of stack to my problem? <3
 
9:27 PM
Not if it's less than 2 days old
 
Please check the rules. Link at the top right of this window
 
okey thanks :D
 
wim
@PaulMcG hmm, requirements.txt should list transitive deps but setup.py should not
maybe that is a difference here
 
9:40 PM
is there a dupe for using __version__. this should be closed.
 
Anyone familiar with seaborn?
 
It's not a seaborn question. It's a how do I check the version of module question.
 
import seaborn as sb
print(sb.__version__)
if that doesn't work, I have no idea... but someone else might
 
That is the answer already provided... I'm looking for another Q&A that covers using import module; module.__version__ more generally so I can close the former as a dupe of the latter
 
@piRSquared why does everything have to be about you? =p
 
9:44 PM
@Code-Apprentice everything circles a-round me.
 
that, my friend, was a well-rounded joke
 
so it is entirely coincidental that I'm asking specifically about seaborne and your question uses seaborn as an example.
 
zomg... I thought it was a question in reference to my post laurel
ok... @Code-Apprentice yes, I'm vaguely familiar with seaborn
 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/458550/standard-way-to-embed-version-into-python-package

helps?
 
enough that I might stumble across an answer to your unasked question
@inspectorG4dget yes. ty
 
9:47 PM
I throw many watermelons your way
 
I just happen to be looking at a seaborn example and I've never heard of it: dataviztalk.blogspot.com/2016/02/…
 
They do a good job of making matplotlib look prettier
 
wtf, someone edited a w3schools link into one of my answers... and before that an edit adding a link copied from google (including the tracking garbage instead of the real target) got approved :/
 
@piRSquared looks like they add some functionality that matplotlib doesn't have, too
I'm making a scatter plot with a categorical variable vs a continuous variable
 
@Code-Apprentice it's pretty well-known
easy way to make your plots seem fancier, but yeah, also additional bells and whistles
 
9:58 PM
cool, I'll be using it then
 
if you meant to ask if it's mainstream enough to rely on it, the answer is yes
 
that's part of what I was trying to figure out, yah
I'm learning the dark arts of visualization in python.
 
wim
@piRSquared oh boy, the second answer there 🤮 and the OP even seems proud of that setup.py
 
but it also has some fancy things for which it's not always trivial to grab the underlying data, e.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/58559880/… I recently encountered on main uses sns.jointplot which generates a probability density under the hood with default parameters
that's understandable with a visualization library, but you might find yourself wanting access to the underlying data which might not always be trivial
 
@wim is there a better dupe target? Or another I can add?
 
wim
10:11 PM
Dunno, sorry
Man, if you want to see an opinion from every man and his dog, that question has them all
The poor correct answer is sitting in 4th place
 
anyone here know any Hive?... I'll take SQL, too
I have a table in which a column is an array of <string, string> maps. How do I get the rows for which this column has an entry, whose value for the key 'X' is '123a'?
 
wim
@piRSquared I talked about it a bit here but it's not a great dupe
and this one was about API usage, not a shell command for it .
meh, I've edited it into dupes list, since the accepted answer is talking about pip show anyway
 
I commented with a link to that post.
 
10:32 PM
@ThiefMaster Why do people here dislike w3schools so much? It's a useful reference.
 
I remember it from the times where it was full of bad information. the mysql_query("select * from users where username='$_POST[username]'") kind of bad.
 
Aug 14 '18 at 11:54, by Andras Deak
I'm not sure what "can be used as arrays" means. But the latest issue I've heard about w3schools is that it teaches lists as "arrays" as if it were javascript or something. With the recent addition at the end of the section that "by the way, arrays don't exist in python". Which is again wrong.
 
wim
it's helped me plenty of times for html and css stuff
I wouldn't look there for Python, of course.
 
Jul 26 '18 at 14:09, by PM 2Ring
It's hard for me to become even more upset with w3schools than I already am. I consider them to be a major cause of so much of the terrible JavaScript in the world. There are worse sites, but they tend to be obviously bad, littered with typos & misinformation that even a newbie can spot. OTOH, w3schools looks ok on the surface to the uninitiated, but it's full of misinformation, obsolete techniques, or just plain dumb ways of doing stuff.
 
oh wow, didn't take long to find absolutely awful python code there: w3schools.com/python/python_try_except.asp
 
if not type(x) is int:
and bare except: all over the place
 
wim
ah my favourite type of exception "handling", printing them!
 
@AndrasDeak they also offer(ed?) worthless certificates on web technologies
 
"something went wrong", now I know where all those questions on main come from
 
wim
the operator of this teletype machine is now aware of the problem! carry on, program!
 
10:38 PM
@Dodge if whether you get bullyam sold to you as truth is a gamble, the source is a bad one
 
Yup, I understand the concerns now, but I've not used it for python stuff, just super low level html and css. The python docs are actually quite good with some SO on the side
My mind has a hard time parsing bullyam as bull yam rather than bully yam
 
10:52 PM
argh! now I can't unsee that
 
if that's the worst problem with that garden-path sentence then I'm glad :D
 
11:28 PM
anyone know how to check the maximum concurrent open files in Windows?
 

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