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9:22 PM
Hello
 
hello
 
Hello you
 
I need some music other than Cee lo Green to listen to over and over today.
 
that's tough, but I forgot my Bose at home when I left this morning ... 45 minutes away
 
9:25 PM
Do you live in the same city you work or somewhere else?
I ask because I got a lot of "You're a madman!" type comments when I moved 45 minutes away from my office.
 
@mootinator i drove 100 miles for work and school everyday for almost a year. people dont understand you just get used to it.
 
@entens Yeah, you get used to it. And I work at home 3-4 days a week now anyhow.
That had more to do with the company trying to save money on office space than anything else though.
 
hello
 
I live reasonably close ... my house is only an interstate drive away.
 
Hello again.
 
9:35 PM
but I am moving come December
 
I suppose most commuters don't have to drive on anything like a Saskatchewan highway in winter.
 
@mootinator Wisconsin. Backcountry. Fun.
 
@mootinator @entens I'm outside of Shreveport LA, I only have freeway and trees.
I came from Houston
 
@entens Nice.
 
Rush hour here is like 50 cars on the road at the same time
 
9:39 PM
@mootinator where abouts in Sask?
 
@entens Live in Waldheim, work in Saskatoon.
 
gorsh I love seeing the DB server pegging it's disks for minutes at a time ... brings a tear to my eyes
 
nice. I got family in Ontario and I'll be working about ~200KM north of Regina for about a month or three in a little.
 
My in-laws live about an hour outside of Ottawa. Hence why I really live outside Saskatoon. Heh.
Lots of, erm, let's say, "convincing" ;)
 
9:54 PM
Blatant self promotion, but hey, it's for a community project:
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Ever use reflector to see how the competing version of what you wrote works and just do a major WTF?
 
yeah
ever use it to look at a competitors code and find that they're hardcoding string literals all over the place and really not adhering to a spec?
 
seriously, the competition looks like FizzBuzz Enterprise on steroids. Reflection and Lambda Expressions all over the place to do simple read/write from the damn serial port.
 
speaking of fizzbuzz
 
Ever contributed to badly written OSS then regretted it because of the volume of requests you got to work on something you didn't enjoy working on all that much?
 
10:03 PM
why is this a fizzbuzzfail?
 
yup
just look at the constructor for this class with 5 members!
 
ouch
 
i think my oneboxing is broke :/ again :/
 
mine too
we're doing something wrong
have to be
 
my day is done. sat around all day waiting for GE to call back on service ticket, GE service is now closed
 
10:09 PM
@drachenstern Apparently a newline after the 100th line makes it a fizzbuzz fail
 
@mootinator I took that out and it still fizzbuzzfails
I figure I'm smart enough to know how to run a fizzbuzz
go figure
brb
 
@drachenstern Maybe it rejects answers that are too simple :)
Or not, weird.
 
10:50 PM
dmmit
 
what?
 
11:07 PM
@drachenstern You made me want to write a complicated FizzBuzz
 
lol
sorry
 
wow
any of you guys do php?
 
sorry, I'm a C-and-ASM guy.
 
11:12 PM
yeah I do .NET
guy over in JS chat trying to figure out how to do something and I'm NOT the php guy
 
Rob
I write a little PHP
 
I mean I can read PHP, and I can hack PHP, but I can't explain to someone how to code in PHP (ok, so I'm rusty, so shoot me)
 
11:27 PM
Damn, I was off by one somewhere.
 
?
 
My contribution to unnecessarily complicated FizzBuzz implementations.
 
so there's something on that engine about it being complicated code and it will accept it
you gotta admit mine's a lot easier on the eyes
 
Just a lil'
 
and I thought the bytearray was clever
 
Rob
11:37 PM
holy mother of obfuscation
you should abuse your ability to place multiple statements on one line and make ascii art with that code.
pretty clever though. :)
 
lol
I was going to instantiate the bytearray with a base 64 string, but decided to just generate it in the code.
 
Rob
haha.
now that I think about it, that's pretty close to how it might be written in C, so it's not really that obfuscated. :P
 
what about this microobfuscation: Console.Out.WriteLine( ((int)fb > 0) ? fb.ToString() : String.Format("{0}", (ms.Position - 1) * 4 + i + 1) );
and for that you could probably get away with ...
untested Console.Out.WriteLine( ((int)fb > 0) ? "" + fb : "" + ((ms.Position - 1) * 4 + i + 1) );
 
Rob
lol
 
Hee hee.
 
11:44 PM
tested
 
Rob
hooray for uglification with the ternary operator.
Has everyone seen that?
 
Yeah, I always wanted to enter that. Never got around to it.
 
of course
 
It takes a lot of skill to code that badly.
 
aye that it does
on this and the corresponding line if (i % 3 == 0) c |= (byte)FizzBuzz.Fizz;, why don't you just define it the other way? if (i % 3 == 0) c |= 2;
obfuscation enough
 
11:48 PM
Really, because I wasn't planning to include that code at all.
foo = Convert.FromBase64String("IAmGMEiCIQySYAiDJBjCIAmGMEiCIQySYA=="); Was going to be the obfuscated beginning of that.
 
Sorry to interrupt your talks on FizzBuzz, ternary operators and the sorts can someone tell me if there is a next question like this / the recommended way of doing it ? I just want to know how to keep my code separate from everything else on my mac ( If there is a better chatroom for this let me know )
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@phwd just an exercise in futility, feel free to interrupt us with real problems anytime
this is the best room for that
 
ok, maybe i'm just spacing out, but wtf
 
@phwd have you used DCVS like git before?
 
nvm
 
11:53 PM
 
@drachenstern I am on my way up still reading docs for it
 
Console.Out.WriteLine("My Head HURTS");
 
I'm going to have to remember that IAmGME is shorthand for a base64 fizz
lol@JeremyChild
 
Rob
@phwd: I like the top solution on the link you posted.
 
@phwd some of your questions imply that
 
11:55 PM
Why did i create a EF 3.5 project when EF 4.0 is out... silly boy.
 
@drachenstern ok well I will stay on that path then just needed some reassurance thanks @Rob Thanks as well
 
@phwd I have a second disk in my box at work (F:\) that doesn't have any windows attachment (other than it's f:\) so if I need to reformat/move to another machine I only need that drive
 
Rob
I picked a good time to migrate... I'm rewriting our very beta application at work, currently in VB.NET using TableAdapters in .NET 2.0, now in Linq to EF 4.0 :)
 
so I have f:\hg (to differentiate the SCMs that we've used) that has one dir per repo
 
Rob
Almost started on Linq to SQL but then MS decided to announce they were ditching support :/
 
11:57 PM
so f:\hg\dashboard
 
well im lost trying to upgrade EF 3.5 to 4.0
 
f:\hg\portal
 
cuz my FK's are like messedup in EF3.5
 
since hg (mercurial) is the compet to git
so anyways, that's how I do it, I mirror my repos on my disk, under f:\hg and I leave the rest up to the tools
 
@Rob You're lucky to be using EF 4.0.
 
11:58 PM
I also use sensibly named repos
like portal, dashboard, etc
 
Rob
@Jeremy, it shouldn't be very hard to migrate from EF3.5 to EF4.0, should it?
 
@phwd you might consider peeking in a .hg or .git or .svn folder sometime
see how they're arranged
 
@Rob I have no idea how to do it.... No documentation on MSDN either. So SO is my 'go to' move.
 
Rob
One second \
 
@drachenstern yeah I will do that.
 
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