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12:08 AM
I think that is valid for SO if you detail the language etc and maybe put it in the form "For language X with library Y how can I increase the security of Z"
 
Has anyone here ever received a recruitment email from google?
 
1:02 AM
duuude
 
 
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3:33 AM
10 whole messages since I left. Wow.
 
 
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4:34 AM
This is the Lonely Ranger cabin, hidden in the mountains
 
^_^
 
 
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7:32 AM
poke
 
 
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11:40 AM
Does anyone know if styling <button> tags is possible in IE7?
@DanGrossman repoke
 
I suppose no
IE7 is a mess, I don't want support it in my application
all of my CSS are broken with him :(
 
12:00 PM
Yeah, tell me about it.
 
How do you clean up questions that you answered yourself?
on stackoverflow.com
 
There's a small "edit" link in grey at the bottom left of your question/answer.
 
Ah yes, really I mean should I answer the question myself and mark it as answered?
 
Yes, that's the generally accepted way :=) if you have a solution, that is.
 
I ask a question, I realise the answer, am I allowed to solve it myself or is that bad ettiquette?
 
12:08 PM
Nope, if you have the solution, go for it, You won't gain any rep for it, but if you slve dit, answer it :)
 
12:49 PM
Good morning fellow SOans!
 
1:11 PM
@Sagar G'day mate.
 
Hello you too :)
 
How goes it? :)
 
a bit of stress
an iphone app release today to apple store
 
oh cool.
 
and it's failed because our backend where there are our API failed too :(
 
1:17 PM
ooh
:S
 
we need fix it manually on the database :(
and search and fix quick all problem
 
Good luck!
 
but our architecture is a bit of complicate
 
My FTP server just went down.
 
5 application, 1 database
 
1:18 PM
so any changes I make can't be done :D
Goood luck!
 
I fix my FW stratefgie to block all mail to be send :)
yesterday I made a production to another application to me
and I improve my FW system on my server
 
nice
@KyleSevenoaks your ftp server went down?
good luck @shingara
 
@Sagar Yep, can't connect, cant' transfer.
 
@KyleSevenoaks use only ssh to transfert some file it's really better
 
@shingara ssh?
 
1:24 PM
yes and transfert by scp
secure system shell
you don't know ssh ?
 
@shingara No, I don't. :X
 
oh ssh >> ftp
your files transfer more securely, and i just generally trust ssh more.
However, Windows or Linux?
 
@Sagar Server? Most likely linux.
 
and you can use a sshkey
 
1:26 PM
@KyleSevenoaks use ssh to
and you can connect by ssh from windows with putty or winscp
 
the link i put in is for putty.
 
Thanks :)
 
although, to transfer files you'll need WinSCP.
 
yes but winscp is more simple if you just transfert file
like an ftp do
 
yeh
 
1:28 PM
ssh add the capabilities to connect on a shell on your server
and make what you want
more light than a X remote
by example
 
I do have shell access.
 
via telnet?
 
We can't type to quick because we can't post more quick than 3second :(
 
It was 1 second.
 
telnet is completly not secure :(
 
1:29 PM
Not like this place is flooded often.
 
lol
 
Telnet? nooo!
Just normal FTP channels so far.
 
but sometimes I type too quick
 
no I mean shell access
 
I work for a small company, they haven't given me all the details yet.
 
1:30 PM
oh ok
 
Yeah.
It's annoying.
Contacting the hosting company now.. :)
So far all I do is make CSS changes and download porn.
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LOL
!!
 
Hahaha totally joking.
 
right...
haha
 
1:34 PM
porn can be great :)
STARSSSSSSSS
 
lol
 
now it's on google, that Kyle love porn and CSS :p
 
WHAT?
:D
 
yes it's not IRC, all are logged now
and big brother google see it :p
 
Well, damn.
Best result for searching my name on google! :D
 
1:41 PM
lol is that really you or is it a coincidence?
 
No, that's me :)
 
nice
 
great
 
What's the strangest programming error you've eever come across?
 
exit 0
 
1:48 PM
I burned out a Graphics card with an infinite loop once, Total mistake.. But it was funny to see code make smoke :)
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LOL
exit 0? which language is that an error in?
I mean exit(0) is a good exit...
 
I use ruby
 
ooh
I've never actually seen Ruby code. brb, need to look
 
you can hide an exit 0 when you do just a 1 + 1
 
That was C#
 
1:52 PM
@shingara ok
@KyleSevenoaks lol an infinite loop burning up a graphics card...lol that would be cool...in a very entertaining way of course :P
 
@Sagar It was hilarious!
 
lol
It's Thursday! It's Thursday!
 
I wait friday
 
I know, me too
But Thursday is almost as good as Friday.
+ today is paycheck day, which is very desperately needed :S
 
2:02 PM
Almost
 
so close :S
 
but not friday :'(
 
does anyone know the requirements or standards for "software engineer level III" ?
 
I don't know what is that
I even not know what level I am
 
2:17 PM
I'm level -12
 
LOL
 
I am level 6300 reputation on SO
it's base on your SO reputation or not ?
if not, it's a bad level system
 
haha nooo
I'm talking about my company. We just switched to a level system, and I am a Software Engineer Level II
I want to know what it takes to get to III and what my salary should be
 
depend of your company I suppose
in my company we are 3 developper
I am the older in company I even be the first
my boss promise me a CTO place in January :)
with a raise of salary
and in side job I found a company with 2 other guy and I am the CTO of this one too
but in this one, we have no money, so my salary is 0 now
we search some fund to invest on our website
 
ok
 
2:24 PM
the salary say nothing about your developing skill
it's really bad
your SO reputation is a good information about your skill
and in what tag you have your skill
I am on the Top 10 answer of Ruby-on-rails tag
so I am not really a bad rails developer
I am no answer on C# tag
so I am not a really good developer on C# :)
 
I think SO reputations should be a very respectable thing to have on CVs.
 
completly, there are SO carreer to do that
the second good system is your followers on github
if on your github account you have a lot of followers and a lot of repository
with some watcher on it
you can be good on develop system like on this repository
 
lol I have neither currently, and don't even answer that many questions...once in a while, yeah.
I mean even then, it is not something I could put on my CV. It should be a very respectable experience to put, but I doubt it would impress employers.
 
depend which employer
to me I am impress
to someone to unknow SO, yes it's not
but it's because this people have no skill to develop
so they are bad employer
 
But I think that if I were an employer and saw someone's rank and rep in SO say aC# developer that 11.6k rep witha top ranking in the C# category, I'd see some answers and make a decision that "this guy knows what he's doiung"
I think it can't hurt to put it on there.
 
2:39 PM
true
 
I would emphasize that you have good answers rather than a raw reputation number, but what do I know :)
 
@RogerPate I agree, I wouldn't jsut look at the score. But see some answers too.
 
Good Morning
 
morning!
 
Morning to you @Chacha102 it's 16h to me :)
 
2:53 PM
good late afternoon :)
 
I want to go home.
Ten minutes and I can :)
 
so you're spending the last 10 minutes on SO?
 
Damn right :)
See if there's a question I can answer :)
 
therefore you're wasting twice the time...
10 minutes of your employer and 10 minutes of your own, because you can't leave yet
 
Eh, he doesn't mind, we've had this discussion.
Plus I'm all coded out for today.
 
2:56 PM
seems like you've got more reason to be on SO than me
 
For sure.
 
lol
I want it to be evening already
 
in 2 hour I am done my works :p
it's time I am no more coffee :(
I need buy some
 
for some reason, coffee does not do it for me.
 
:(
 
3:11 PM
I can sleep like a baby after drinking coffee
 
me too
but I love the taste of coffe
 
the smell of coffee
but I don't like hot coffee. Cold coffee = yumminess
 
and too
 
3:28 PM
so if I have a question about stackexchange, shouldn't I goto meta.stackexchange?
wow, it didn't onebox?
 
oh man, dilbert today is so true
 
LOL
 
my second screen dead last week
so three screens is a paradise :)
 
I have an office and two screens. Does that make me emperor?
 
I work home
I even need to be dress :p
 
3:45 PM
:S well you just stole emperor...i'll have to live with king
that is a good job
 
the most avantage to work at home is to do love to your wife. You can do more often :)
 
4:00 PM
Has anyone tried compiling Qt 4.6.3 source under Windows 64 and VS2010?
 
@Sagar me too, trying to get the third screen but no such luck
 
yep
 
4:16 PM
document onload?
 
That's body onload though
 
need to reread the jquery source apparently, brb
 
figure it would be the same thing? I have not used DOM. The last time I used HTML, it was still for placing stuff properly lol
 
window.addEventListener( "load", jQuery.ready, false );
I see no window.load event listed
window.attachEvent( "onload", jQuery.ready );
there is this
document.addEventListener( "DOMContentLoaded", DOMContentLoaded, false );
I can see I'm going to have to dig for this info
instead of just assuming the w3schools site has it ... :\
 
hmm
 
4:21 PM
I did not, however, check quirksmode
I should probably have started there
 
quirksmode?
 
@Sagar do you not know quirksmode.org?
 
I don't
 
You should visit and read some of his articles, he knows a LOT about cross browser compat
 
@drachenstern nop
*nope
oh ok
 
4:23 PM
here's a good place to start: quirksmode.org/js/introevents.html
you'll be able to tell from there if you think he's a credible/helpful resource
 
4:41 PM
My old flat panel monitor is dying. That means I'll have to switch to the new one which seemed like a good deal at the time but actually has a terrible native resolution.
:`(
 
@mootinator oh that sucks
 
or u could buy a decent one?
 
Or steal one from the office.
Or get them to buy me one, even.
 
I've had pretty good luck with samsung
I've used a 17-inch for about 6 years
now it's my second screen, to a 22" wide
 
Computer: Would you like to replace the file modified: Tuesday, August 03 2010 with this one? modified: Today, November 04 2010?
 
4:46 PM
@mootinator broke it and ask another new one
 
Me: Who set my clock forward?
@shingara Hehe.
 
@mootinator while i was drinking someone changed date on my phone to november 5th. I was supposed to be in other town at november 5th. i almost added heartattack to hangover when checked my phone.
 
@Anton ... ??? my cell gets its time from the phone company, why wouldn't you do that?
 
the backlight bleed is pretty bad, but its great for staring at code all day
 
4:49 PM
@entens ooo
 
@drachenste my cellphone has only time correction, not date
 
That is weird.
What company is your phone?
 
@Sagar the russian one :D
 
Well, nobody actually set my clock forward. Turns out it really is November.
 
Aah ok
lol
@mootinator Surprise!
 
4:54 PM
That November thing is creepy. I've been reading somewhere that November comes directly after October, but i never believed that.
 
i thought we cancelled november this time around?
 
:o
 
@Anton scientists tried to prove it, but it wasn't until Netcraft Confirms It that it became widely believed. Even then, there was a staunch group of disbelievers that swore it was a troll attempt
 
@Gary I don't think everyone got the memo
 
I thought it was Movember.
 
4:57 PM
@Gary we did! I was a witness!
 
wtf world
 
Someone in this room cancelled the cancellation...*suspicious*
 
I haven't shaved at all this month!
 
@drachenstern if it was a troll attempt, twas good one. They even printed dozens of so called calendars. I nearly believed.
 
@Anton I can't believe nobody is getting my jokes today, I should just stop :)
"Netcraft confirms it" and "Marquee considered harmful"
 
5:01 PM
@drachenstern I've read "Netcraft confirms it" before, but I don't think I get it
 
it's an old slashdot meme
 
@drachenstern i will google the shit out of it, to understand your joke, i promise.
 
"so and so site is loosing market share" because Netcraft (a firm for monitoring such things) confirms it
but they routinely had crap data
 
In other news, cancellation of November was cancelled by...
 
so just because they would say that a site was up or down didn't mean shit
 
5:03 PM
@drachenstern oh ok
memes. lol. damn lolcats. :P
 
so it was a bit tongue in cheek to say "Netcraft confirms it" or else you were trolling hard
 
haha
 
I was shocked when I learned that 1. Something odd 2. ??? 3. Profit! was a South Park reference and not originally a Slashdot meme.
 
1. Do something.
yeah lol
Christmas party stuff has started at our office...is it bad that I am excited? :S
 
@mootinator yeah, they don't tend to dream it up on their own
they just pummel it into the ground
 
5:16 PM
I have a friend who obsessed about trying to get slashdotted.
Succeeded twice, even.
 
lol what for?
 
He had a viral song about Survivor on mp3.com.
 
nice
 
Then last year he was on something else (engadget?) for tracking down the google street view car and advertising his music.
 
he's good.
 
5:38 PM
I see MySQL has been nerfed. Joy.
 
oh?
@mootinator Nerfed how?
 
Oh, I guess not. They just have their versions page set up in such a way that it looks like you have to pay to get InnoDB.
 
Yeah, for the commercial version
They just increased the price
 
Righty-o.
Not that I would mind if they did that, it would probably push more development to Windows :P
 
6:00 PM
Lovely. I goto lunch, waiting on my long-running sql queries to finish offsite so I can get messages in my results window, and come back to find the tunnel has gone down AGAIN.
 
:S
 
I mean, I can still look at it in SSMS Activity Monitor, but that's no good for seeing the results :S
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Q: Why instantiate variables with a null value

QuakerOatHi, In many pieces of example code I see variables instatiated with null values and later assigned more meaningful values. I was just wondering why people may do this. I'm guessing try-catch blocks may well come into this, but I also see variables instantiated will null values inside of a try b...

>> Does anyone else think it's strange that QuakerOat asked this question, and wheaties commented on an answer?
huhwhat?
 
lol
 
lol
 
what did I miss that Mike didn't?
 
6:12 PM
@drach Is there a joke in that? I don't understand it
 
Fogbugz just reminded me to go for lunch.
 
@LasseVKarlsen I think we're together on that
 
@drachenstern Breakfast.
 
What is this, a new meme?
and my monster and poptart were sufficient this morning :p
 
quakeroat is a cereal, wheaties is a type of cereal too i believe
 
6:14 PM
Apparently I did miss breakfast then ...
/facepalm
 
Not just cereal, brand name cereal.
 
oh yeah
brand name
 
@LasseVKarlsen I guess that's the joke we missed
 
Gotta get Total in on that action.
I often wonder if people aren't multi-accounting though.
 
6:39 PM
and Honey bunches of oats!
I guess multiaccounting would not be hard
if you had more than one open id, related to different email accounts.
 
6:56 PM
Not difficult at all to get 15 rep either.
 
yeah
 
the first 15 rep is the hardest
 
especially when you control an account with more than 15
 
yeah, that too
if you want puppet accounts, you're in for pain at SO
They have algorithms
That's all I'm sayin
 
wb @Anton
 
7:00 PM
I have multiple laptops at my disposal, and I can clear cookies and the like :p
 
lol
 
That's not what I meant. :)
 
I'm pretty well shown to not be a rep-whore, want proof? lemme go find my comments that should've been answers list
heheeh
 
lol
 
while i was eating in some free wi-fi cafe, girl with laptop next to me whispered with some sort of inspiration in her voice stuff like "damn, its fucking big...it wont work with us... oh gosh its really huge, long like hell, wtf?". I watched at her screen when i leaved, u understand what i expected. It was just some sort of auto-generated report from some data analysis software.
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7:15 PM
lol
 
7:26 PM
testing 1 2 3
testing 3 2 1
 
please use the sandbox for testing
 

Sandbox

Where you can play with regular chat features (except flagging...
 
what's the timeout on this thing before your text starts on a new "bubble"?
 
idk, but I bet you could find out in the sandbox :p
 
i'd prefer to ask than test and find out
 
7:38 PM
I don't think they've published that particular value
 
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