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@Saranjith that still looks too broad. We aren't here to Google and do research for you. Try putting something together first and come back if there are errors in your code.
@Saranjith While I appreciate your desire to have your question reopened, the rules for this room don't permit making requests about posts where you're involved. This includes questions where you're the author of the question. Because of this restriction, I'm going to move your request out of this room.
On the other hand, you are welcome to ask questions about the close/reopen process or about your question, as long as any such question isn't just a veiled attempt at making a request for action.
07:03
@AmitJoshi "This question cannot be deleted. This question cannot be deleted because other questions are linked as duplicates of this one."
07:26
@AmitJoshi A) That's not an off-site resource request question. It's asking how-to, not "where do I find" or "what projects are there". Even though the top, and accepted, answer really is just a list of projects, the question itself isn't actually asking for off-site resources; B) With 312,000 views of that question, is Stack Overflow/the internet really a better place with that question deleted? It appears the answers have been updated recently, so they are not languishing and becoming dated;
C) It looks like a moderate number of the people who viewed the question found it helpful. What harm is this question causing which is worth removing something some people have found helpful?
It appears that it's not currently possible to act on your request (see @tripleee's message above). Because it is not actionable, I'm going to move the request to /dev/null. While I, personally, would like to see the above issues address prior to having the request reposted, I would not move it out of the room if it was currently possible for users to act on the request.
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, because it's not currently possible to act on this request.
@Makyen Looking at version of question before edit, it was more like resource request. That is why, most of the answers are suggesting tools. OP have also accepted the answer which suggests the tool/project. About , I was not aware that dup-links and number of views considered positive to keep the question. I will take care next time about this.
As you know I like my achievements icon to be green with a big number. Today it shows 780 but I'm pretty sure it was close to 2000 a few days back. Is anyone else seeing anomalies in their achievements? It doesn't look like I'm serial voted or have user removed events that could explain this drop, nor did I start bounties.
Maybe I have to click it to see its details :/
@rene Problems with the achievements icon have been reported/mentioned by a few people. I think there's a meta about it...
yeah, I couldn't find anything recent
Yep, that's the one I'd seen.
yes, that is the one I missed. Thanks
first world problems ...
@AmitJoshi np. I agree, prior to my edit the title could be interpreted as, well, a variety of things, definitely including as a resource request. Based on the question text, which I didn't change, the title appeared to me to be just announcing the overall subject of the question. It's unfortunate the OP left it ambiguous. OTOH, the fact that the OP accepted the answer which is a list of projects 3 years after the question was asked argues that is what they wanted, at least by that point.
That the question has duplicates pointing to it is something that must be resolved prioor to deletedion, because the question being a dup-target for any other question results in not being able to delete the question. Without changing the dup-target on all of those questions, or deleting those questions, it's just not possible for regular users to delete the dup-target question.
What questions are appropriate to delete is stated as "questions that are of no lasting value whatsoever", but the criteria that's actually used is largely left to personal opinion. I'd say that the basic criteria is to try to leave SO a better place, while not removing things which other people are finding useful. At least to me, that does mean taking into account how many views a question is getting and if some people find it, or its answers, useful enough to upvote.
08:18
there's also the "broken windows" aspect, but IMHO a closed question is a good enough signal that this sort of content is not particularly welcome
 
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10:51
Advice please. this question has been asked, then answered, and then the code in the question has been significantly modified so that the answer isn't an answer to the question. Should it just be rolled back, closed and the OP asked to ask a new question?
@DavidBuck sounds right
@DavidBuck yes, roll back edits that invalidate existing answers
13:21
o/
13:35
@SamuelLiew any chance you are available to unflag a message for me? I need to test something :)
where?
@PeeHaa you have no pending flags
@SamuelLiew About to flag a message now. Was waiting for your answer :) <3
in Jeeves' Playground, 8 hours ago, by Tiffany
FFI:structure/union alignment [ext/ffi/tests/022.phpt] failure ・ Testing related ・ #79356
tnx
you want me to mark it as invalid?
\0/
It's already invalidated :)
Or was that you?
@PeeHaa Do note that chat flags go to all 10K+ users in chat
13:40
ahh seems like those flag types can be handled by any chat user with high enough rep?
aye
@NathanOliver Gee thanks for the info...
:P
it wasn't a mod flag
It wasn't. Was just making sure I didn't ban a random user :D
@NathanOliver Next you are telling me what cv-pls stands for :D
@PeeHaa coronavirus-pleaseleavesoom ;)
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:P
Do we have any active mods in chat left besides apparently @SamuelLiew?
Seems like all my go to people all left
13:43
Cody Gray has started using chat here
also Martijn of all people dropped in the other day
:|
Nice
And Bhargav will show up 30 mins after someone mentions him, typically :-P
But what if it is uRgEnT??!!!!111eleven
And of course there's also Rob but he's been active in chat for a long time
We are also a safe house for puppy's
13:45
Yeah noticed rob in 11 several times. Already made him work for me :P
really the only two active in chat people who left recently were Jon and Madara. Boltclock was active, too, but he has been on indefinite leave for like a year or more by now
if you really have to ping a mod for some reason, at least check the activity graph first to see if the mod is likely to be away
@SamuelLiew That's why I was buggering you now :P
@PeeHaa RO's can handle most issues, even if it's just kick-muting until a mod can handle a mod flag about it
@PeeHaa oh my
13:47
@NathanOliver I know. I only need mods when I need to test something or unfreeze a room basically
Sounds like it's feature request time. Add another priv level so 30K, maybe 50K users can moderate chat more?
hahahahahha
oh wait. You mean requesting that thing we have been asking for for the last 5 years
:P
Yeah. They can do that and release the chat API at the same time ;)
imo better chat moderation tools > chat api
the websocket/xhr api works "just fine"
Agreed, I would just like to see any dev time spent on chat
13:55
@TylerH Friendly reminder this is in the FAQ: "This is still a work in progress. ... We're listening. With your help, we will continue to add more awesome!"..... lol
@Nick hehe
@Nick yeah, since 2011...
lets keep the language clean please.
Plop folks
14:07
o/
15:23
@M-- Did you mean to use review-pls instead of delete-pls?
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16:16
@NathanOliver instead of? Idk. I meant to use review-pls since I wasn't 100% sure this should be deleted, however I did cast a vote
Sam
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Plop!
Plop Sam
Saaaam
17:13
SAMMMMMMMMMMMM o/
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Been a bit busy over the last couple weeks. Finally got round to upgrading my pc. \o/
Never thought I'd be joining team red for cpus.
Ugh, they pushed the new blockquotes
Ugh, me no likey
grabs pitchfork
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Time for a meta post I guess.
I propose we go to codidact. There we can at least submit a PR to improve things ...
Is Codidact Close Vote Reviewers is already set up for us?
Don't they need content first that we can close? Or do we need to provide that as well?
17:47
@Sam is this... a reference to AMD?
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@TylerH Yes
Welcome to the Ryzen family :-)
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ty, I'm still blown away with the performance on offer compared to intel at a similar price
I'm biased, but it does hopefully make it painfully obvious that Intel has been grossly price gouging all these years...
It was a real punch in the dangly bits when they slashed the prices in half once 3rd gen ryzen launched. They changed nothing but were able to sell at 50% off. Despicable.
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17:54
Yeah. Always great to see more competition in the market.
@NathanOliver I will say I don't like my Ryzen 5 3600X stock cooler.
That's not surprising. You should scrap it and invest he money into an aftermarket cooler ;)
My Ryzen 3 1300X stock cooler was great, but on this one the fan randomly speeds up and the software for it has a floor/ceiling set for temps and RPMs
and it's still too new for popular fan control software to work with it
@NathanOliver Well, I have one, but everyone was saying the stock coolers were actually really good for Ryzen, and that was also my own experience, too
What MB do you have?
@NathanOliver It could be my MB indeed; I had to update my BIOS twice to get it up to a version that even supported Ryzen 3rd gen. I have a Gigabyte AB350-Gaming-3
17:57
that's the same MB as me ^^"
wait, I take it back. I updated BIOS 3 times; the 3rd time was because of the lack of M.2 support in F40
Hmm. From an April 2019 article, that MB is not supported by 3rd gen ryzen. The manufacture page also doesn't list it. You also don't get 4th gen PCI which your CPU supports. Might want to consider a new MB.
@NathanOliver It's been on my list, but I did check with the manufacturer before buying; from the link I posted you can visit the Support > BIOS updates page and see where later revisions added Ryzen 3 support
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I thought 3rd gen ryzen was only supported on b450 and higher
@Sam At launch it was
18:02
ryzen 3ks are gen2
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@TylerH Ah right.
Technically gen2, 2ks are gen 1+ and 1ks are gen 1
Escalation!
or am i getting confused with gen vs zen again >.>
18:05
gen vs zen
There was Zen, Zen+, and Zen 2
apologies
Yeah, Zen2, Gen3
really annoying on AMD's part to do that
at any rate, Gigabyte and AMD both have official drivers for the AB350-3 for Ryzen 5 3600X, which launched in mid-2019 :-)
you just have to do a lot of updating
18:06
yeah, i had to do updating to get my 2700x to run
still wasn't as annoying as getting Windows 7 to work on a Ryzen processor though
Mine was a pre-built, but no original parts remain except the MB
everything else has been replaced
You bought a pre-built computer that came with an AB350-3 motherboard?
mhm
well, kinda
it was an OC machine (basically newegg I think?) but one of their base machines without any customization, upgraded it when i had more money
Gotcha
18:10
@TylerH One thing you could do is get a commander pro and see if the fan behaves the same was being controlled by corsair's software. (You will need to tweak the bios to not error out on not seeing a cpu fan plugged in)
One of the best parts of my case was it coming with a dumb fan-controller (one temp to rule them all).
@NathanOliver Sounds complicated
I would probably just install an aftermarket fan before I messed around with hardware-based fan control options
An aftermarket one might work. Do you know if the stock cooler is PWM or just DC?
@NathanOliver Yes I believe all the Ryzen stock coolers are 4-pin
though IIRC my board only has 3-pin connectors so the 4th just sits empty off the end of the connector
Oh, Oh, OH. That could definitely be causing your problem. You really need that fourth pin for it to work properly. Getting an aftermarket DC fan should fix your problem.
18:19
@NathanOliver I hadn't thought about that, but I will check again when I get home. I thought the stock cooler for the 1300X was also 4-pin (and it didn't have the issue) but maybe they just had better software instructions for it at the CPU or BIOS level because the board was newer then
Or maybe not. This shows you should have 4 pin cpu header.
it has 4x 4pin fan headers
CPU_FAN, CPU_OPT, SYS_FAN1/2
(I have the manual on me xd)
I had the Stealth with the 1300X and have the Spire now with the 3600X
I'm going to revert back to it being a CPU compatibility issue with the MB.
Hmm, yeah the screenshots of the mobo clearly show it has 4 pin connectors for CPU...
maybe it's the spire fan that has 3 pins? I swear one of them had 3 pins...
maybe I'm getting old and it was one of my case fans...
18:21
That's the wraith right?
Yes Wraith is the family of Ryzen coolers
Wraith Stealth comes with Ryzen 3, Wraith Spire comes with Ryzen 5, and Wraith MAX comes with Ryzen 7, typically
there's also two other specialty Wraith coolers that have RGB features
yeah, i think mine came with a spire, but it's a 2700
rather than a high 7
amazon indicates 4pin, at least when bought not direct from amd
Tomshardware and AMD's message boards indicate it's a PWM fan
18:25
my cooler is aftermarket though
yeah, I'm sure it is. I can set the speeds on a curve in the software
problem is it seems to ignore that.
or at least, it fluctuates a lot between two RPM speeds, even when I'm not using the thing
the joys of building a computer
@TylerH Your CPU fan is cleared for takeoff
lol
I dunno what kind of RPMs a fan would need to hit to fly itself
but that would be an interesting experiment
Probably they would only need a fraction of what they actually spin at
I recommend you watch brick experiment channel on YT, strangely entertaining stuff (no affiliation), but he does thinks like making motors fly and lifting hundreds of pounds with just lego motors
18:41
@Nick great... just what I needed! An addictive youtube channel to add to my watchlist :-P
not many videos dw ;p
I don't think this Java answer is very clear. Are they saying "There's no need to create a custom data structure. It's not necessary, because a linked list of arrays is the same as a HashMap"?
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@Scratte They are referring to the answer with the link (2 upvotes) but there are grammar issues (and more). I'd close and delete the question altogether though (my cv-pls above)
18:57
@M-- Oh. I thought they were just saying what I just said and about to edit it. How do you know they're referring to that other answer?
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@Scratte I haven't read your edit (message here). Sorry, thought you are just quoting the answer. Your explanation makes more sense. But I stand by closing and deleting.
@M-- Ok. Not sure I understand why the Question is Opinion based. But I have no feelings about it.
ahhh, I just saw the new quote design
@TylerH You're so happy with it, you just can't stop smiling.
19:06
@Scratte No, that was more like an alarmed "ahhh"
Interesting Roomba exception reason, JIC you watch Roomba like a hawk
@Machavity that is interesting
I'm not sure what's more interesting, though: the exception or the fact that a CM didn't think such a question would normally qualify (or perhaps ought not qualify?)
@TylerH no laptop... So delayed... :(
@BhargavRao oof, that threw off my estimation by a few hours. Shame! :-P
@Makyen Seems like there's another obscure Roomba behavior that hasn't come to light until today, and (understandably) isn't supported by your Roomba Forecaster user script.
19:18
@Makyen you might be following this discussion irt roomba forecaster: meta.stackexchange.com/a/344861/158100
at least I added context @gparyani ...
@rene Thanks. I was about to ask for context. :-)
Questions that were migrated from other sites are excluded from RemoveAbandonedClosed. This has never been just a side effect of the fact that rejected migrations are locked and locked questions are excluded, there was an explicit exemption that was never removed once the system was changed to no longer lock migrations as rejected if the stub on the origin site was deleted at the time of closure.
@rene Context was being typed at the time you posted that.
@Makyen ^
Sadly, when I leave Meta.SE, I'm no longer the fastest thing in the world...
Boy, now we have two monologue writers ...
import from MSE :)
@Makyen To add, RemoveDeadQuestions also excludes migrated questions. The sole one that doesn't is RemoveAbandonedQuestions (in addition to the two migration criteria, of course).
19:38
@gparyani & @rene Thanks for making sure I was aware of the issues wrt. Roomba and keeping me updated.
I think one user stalking you should do. I'm out.
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@Scratte read the answers
19:51
@rene want me to stalk you? As in beanstalk...
@M-- I did. I wasn't very impressed with them. I didn't think that Questions could be closed/deleted based on the answers though. I thought Opinion based was directed at the Question alone. (Not trying to be argumentative at all. Just trying to figure it out)
@AndrasDeak :D
Oh, here's something to tickle your Dutch fancy: I rode a bike to work today to avoid taking two subways... I haven't had this much exercise in 10 years or so :'(
LOL. Do you have bike lanes? Or are you at the mercy of the cars ...
How many KMs?
We have "bike lanes" that are suicide, but there are also quite a few bike ways and bike/pedestrian ways. I could take a route that was 95% the latter two, so I was safe
13 km in one direction. Took me 65 minutes at grandpa speed :D I had to give a lecture, and I didn't want to break too much of a sweat or exhaust myself.
Also my bike is ancient, 15+ years old, without any shock absorbers (which are things you need when your pavement is ugh :P), and the bike ways are quite narrow in places so you have to be careful
On the way home I worked myself hard to see how fast I can get home...reached 15 km/h average speed :D
I literally hadn't touched my bike for 8 years at least, so last night i replaced both the inner tubes and the tire...now it's good as new bad as old
oh, also it's a MTB because I couldn't get myself to get one of those weird narrow tires
(plus considering the quality of pavement here that would also be risky)
oops, I became a monologist
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20:02
@Scratte No worries. I could be wrong, it's good to have discussions and make sure we are doing the right thing. Question is broad and asking for opinions; reading answers is just another proof that every user is expressing their opinion. Keeping that in mind that closing a question should be merely based on the question itself though.
@M-- Ok. Thank you :) I suppose if I was to ask this type of Question, I'd have to be very specific. I find them much more fascinating then the usual debug-issues. I can't help though. No votes yet.
@AndrasDeak Nice, good work. I've been cycling for years, though for some reason some people think I'm cheating (thebikelist.co.uk/images/models/KTM/2014/…).
@halfer If you put it on your back while running to work, calling is cycling is cheating.
@halfer Zoom zoom? Can't say I hate the idea. But I could already benefit from a new bike with shock absorbers and a better saddle
I'm reluctant to spend anything more than really necessary if I end up using a bike a few times every 8 years :)
@AndrasDeak Yes, cycling without assistance is the best exercise. But having a motor means I am out every day, even in the cold and wet. In general, e-cyclists get more exercise over the long term, because most regular cyclists take another form of transport when the riding conditions are not ideal
20:14
Y’all rang for another monologuist?
@halfer Odd, I wouldn't expect the workout part to be relevant in cold and wet
@CodyGray we are not worthy
@AndrasDeak Yeah, the costs of e-bikes are quite high. They can be justified by someone selling their car, or not paying for an expensive train season ticket
Chilly on a bike, hate getting wet: sure.
Also saw some whining in the transcript about not enough mods being here.
@AndrasDeak I get some exercise in all weathers, I think
Ooh, I do like a good wining
<slurp>
20:16
And about the new blockquote stylings, which to be honest, I don’t understand. They look fine to me. They look like actual blockquotes now, rather than colored rectangles.
As an American, I don’t know what these “bikes” you’re talking about are. Do you perhaps mean the giant gas-guzzlers that we independently drive to work?
@CodyGray I'm actually starting to like it. At first I needed the background as a visual separator, but my brain seems to have adjusted.
@CodyGray It was Peehaa. He's responsible for some web project
@NathanOliver It has a visual separator, dawg: the vertical bar in the margin. If it had no visual separator, I agree, it’d suck.
@CodyGray I like coloured rectangles. I like that there is a clear difference between what the poster is saying and what he says someone else said. Now it's less clear.
@Machavity As in, he’s the primary maintainer of PHP? I did not know that...
@Scratte Small colored rectangles in the left margin don’t do it for you?
20:20
@CodyGray It's gray. Between black and white. It's not a colour. Also. it's not in a box. I like the box.
@CodyGray I dunno about primary, but he's a regular contributor to the project. I seriously doubt most people know that the SO PHP room probably contributes like 50% of the language changes
@AndrasDeak you could have run that faster ;)
no, I assure you I could have not :P
lol
@Scratte If it were a blue bar, you’d be fine? Really, I don’t follow that logic. I agree there needs to be visual separation, but we have that. I’ve always argued that blockquotes needed to be made more visually distinct from code blocks. The color changed to yellow a few years back, but I think this distinct styling is even better.
@Machavity I did not know that. That is good to know. It’s always exciting to know that we are driving away have the true experts.
20:24
@CodyGray If the left gray vertical line became a gray box instead, then I'd be fine too.
Why do we need boxes instead of lines? It’s indented and has a distinct margin. That’s a pretty common blockquote style out there on the Interwebz.
@CodyGray Or a yellow left vertical bar. Not sure about blue. I'm very picky about blue :D
@Scratte Wouldn't that be a bit too close to code formatting?
The new close notifications ruined the color blue for me...
Should this be considered a library request?
20:26
@Makyen not if the solid inside the box was white. But I would much rather prefer some colour. It doesn't need to be solid.
@CodyGray Mind taking a look here and seeing what happened to the automatic duplicate comment?
@NathanOliver “Is this in Boost?” is not a library request. After that, it kinda currently is, but I’d suggest rephrasing. “If Boost does not provide this, how can I implement it in C++14?”
Answer: use C++ 24
@NathanOliver Yes, it currently is. It could be rephrased and the "what libraries should I consider?" portion removed, which could leave it as not a request for resources.
20:28
@gparyani I have no idea. Comment was never posted. The close as duplicate vote was recorded, however.
@CodyGray Thanks!
@Makyen Ninja’d, by me, on a phone ;-)
@CodyGray :-)
Yeah, I'm slow, at least at the moment. :-)
@Makyen What I really meant to say was that I think the new blockquote doesn't seem like a block. I don't think it clearly makes it very different from the rest of a post. I believe any quote should be visibly different.
OK. I've removed the library request part. I did not edit in asking for an implementation. I'll leave that to the OP if that is what they want to do. I did this because IMHO it's too broad to ask for an implementation
20:30
@Scratte I’m still having trouble following this logic. It’s got a big bar in the left margin. What could more clearly delineate it as a block?
@CodyGray I think you're just very sensitive to vertical lines.
Imagine it's not quote markdown but rather a bikeshed. Now you understand.
@CodyGray I'm not. I don't really notice it, so the quote is lost on me.
Can we get someone else from SOCVR to edit that C++ question, please? Only been 3 of us so far there.
@CodyGray Done.
20:34
@S.S.Anne Gah! You picked “resource request”, apparently accidentally, and then I stupidly followed suit! Corrected now...
@S.S.Anne Perfect. And with a good edit, too!
SOC++VR FTW
SO C++ virtual reality? Sounds intriguing...
I really do feel like we’re SOC++VR when we can salvage something instead of closing it. It’s not always possible, but when it is, it feels good.
Uh oh. Does that make me “welcoming”?
20:36
^^ Yes it does. I'd rather salvage, I just get so few opportunities to do so.
@CodyGray it happens to the best of us
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Btw: is "boost" an informal term and include anything that uses the "boost license"? Because that would be a legitimate answer to that question then, I recon.
@Chipster No. It refers to the Boost library.
No, boost means the official boost library
People just don’t capitalize it because it isn’t capitalized in the namespace name...
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20:40
That's what I thought. So why would that repo use a "boost license"?
The Boost license is a thing, too
@Chipster Well, you need some sort of license.
user10957435
@CodyGray Got you. So there's a boost license, not to be confused with the Boost Library. Noted. Thanks guys.
user10957435
@NathanOliver I mean yes, but I didn't realize that was a type of license. Or maybe I did, I just forgot about it for a second.
Yeah, the license was developed as a way to license the Boost libraries. But once you have a standard...
20:43
you get 14 more?
The real question is why did we need the Boost license instead of just BSD. That I don’t have the answer to. And neither does the FAQ. Or Randall Monroe.
@CodyGray I'm going to go with Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. being an issue, since it specifically calls out you don't need this in the boost license.
Ah, yeah. I forgot the BSD license had that “redistributions in binary form” clause. Umm… I wonder if I’m breaking that license anywhere....
user10957435
Now to check your entire code base for that...
Can two accounts here have the same email?
20:52
@Scratte No because you login with your email
Licensing may be the hardest problem we deal with as programmers.
I don't think so anymore.
@TylerH Thanks :)
and that is also the lowest hanging fruit to prevent a user from creating a sock puppet
If you find any service or website that lets multiple registrations go through with a single email address, you should contact them and let them know that is horrible practice and also dangerous.
@TylerH I though it wasn't a problem that a user had two accounts here.
20:54
I still don’t know for sure whether it’s legal to link to static libs in a closed-source app under the LGPL. I choose to believe it is, and at the very least it is legally defensible. But there are a thousand things like this. It makes NIH seem very appealing.
@Scratte It's not a problem so long as those two accounts never engage with each other
@TylerH It’s OK, we can tell them apart by the passwords :-)
@TylerH Engage with voting or any engaging? Like one asks a question, the other answers it. No voting.
@Scratte Any engaging
@CodyGray Just take the licensing debacle here as an example. I would assume they got a lawyer's OK, and it was still wrong.
20:56
@TylerH Ok. So one user can also not comment on a post for clarification while the other user answers the question?
@Scratte Dicey at best. The rule is more accurately that you shouldn’t use the alternate account to do things that you could not do with a single account. So, you could answer your own question, making your scenario technically legal. But the moment you did anything else…a moderator is going to zap your alternate account.
@Scratte That would not be okay in my books. Then you can both "profit" from accepting the answer. If you want to self answer, you can do that already. There is a check box on the ask question page to add an answer.
@Scratte The key distinction used is "don't use the second account in any way that you couldn't just use one account"
Actually I'd just use the old account to comment for clarification. Then answer it with the other account. But if even that's seen as engaging, I'd not attempt that :)
It's not unheard of for people to answer a question they asked with another account, but almost always the genuine cases of this result in them asking on Meta to have their accounts merged
20:58
What would be the point of that?
@Scratte Why would you need to do such a thing?
@NathanOliver I didn't think of that. Forgot the accepting answers give rep on both.
@Scratte Replying to yourself in comments is probably not a legitimate use of multiple accounts. On the other hand, you’re really just annoying yourself, so...
Take the Jon Skeet account as a famous example; it's really just a sock puppet of rene...
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